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This is worth reposting here as it gives a take from the inner circles of dash dev team etc at a point in the past and the issues that made this supposed dev leave the dash project altogether:

So yes there is ideology behind this coin : privacy, liberty, freedom, try to make the world less directed by "power" and more with the heart...

I hope that changing the name will not make the ideology behind it change too, otherwhise it will failed.

There's no ideology in something that nobody uses. The ideology's in the design, not the name. Vertoe is justified in leaving over not being consulted but less so over 'ideology'.

It's not a rock song that's being built here it's electronic money.

The name can easily be compromised without any loss of principle but the functionality can't. So Evan has got his priorities right in that regard.

no.

i left because i disagree darkcoin or however it will be called next year is not a decentralized entity. it never was but i ignored it as long as darkcoin was following the same path i was following. the path to total financial privacy. and thats why i am so upset about how this currency is lead by a single person. darkcoin is like an old conservative company with strong hierarchical comamnd structures and a single person on the top of the pyramid. evan duffield. the rebranding using a detergent name was just a step forward in creating something like apple or paypal. fuck this i tell you. what we need is a trustless, decentralized and anonymous currency. darkcoin is not decentralized as it still relies on a single person. and this reaches deep into the code base.

the core devs were just a bunch of volunteers exploited for the big thing. the extended darkcoin team was the same with even a lower place to sit on that pyramid. and what was the darkcoin foundation again? right, something to reserve some rights on some names and collect money. who nominated and voted for the foundation board? who does even know who are these guys? how did we learn about the foundation? from local news papers! the team listings kept counting names of people nobody ever noticed before. and they never committed anything visible to the community or the repository. and i was spending 25 hours a day monitory everything that happened in the darkcoin community for more than a year. the things going on here are fishy, intransparent and rely on a single entity.

i will get out and and will contribute to something decentralized and anonymous. i always hoped darkcoin could fill that void. i cant blame anyone to stay with this project. you are probably investors trying to win a gold donkey. or you are simply trying to exploit every possible vector of profit in the coins space. whatever. you are not here because darkcoin is something it claims to be.

if you disagree with my statement above, i dont care, but answer that simple question: what if evan duffield suddenly announces he quits the project tomorrow morning?

good luck

This is so funny, vertoe went over to overtake cachecoin afterwards. Promised a lot and left without any statement after a month or somethig ^^ Better follow vertoe, true story
legendary
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 This thread is turning out like a classic mexican soap opera  Grin
 The drama is absurdly nonsensical and quite amusing (except if you're a subjugated middle aged woman, then it is indeed extreme drama)

 Evils from the past come to haunt us ...ooooh  ohhhh... the shame, the bastard sons claiming heritage, the guilty of past wrongdoings oooh... oohhhh..

 Fun facts.

 vertoe was a self proclaimed LTC millionaire. vertoe was a self proclaimed NGO activist, though no one ever knew for which. vertoe was an active darknet promoter. vertoe was pushing DRK towards dark markets as main purpose for it.

 vertoe started going sour as Evan started to want to detach Darkcoin from the "dark" connotation. vertoe threw a fit with the name change, quit, apparently dumped his DRK holdings (though I doubt he is that stupid to sell off everything).

 vertoe is a "he" by the way, not a "she" as he very cunningly misled people.
 vertoe went on to pick up Cachecoin development promising the world.
 
After a fruitful pump & dump, vertoe disappeared off the face of the net.

At about the same time, a very known dark market admin "Verto" shut down and ran away with everyone's funds. But I'm sure this is purely coincidental. He would have been extremely stupid to use almost the same nick in the world wide web as in the deep web. But if this is a soap opera, nothing like a bit of mischievous mystery to add to the drama.

 I don't miss vertoe. I do miss chaeplin though.
sr. member
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This is worth reposting here as it gives a take from the inner circles of dash dev team etc at a point in the past and the issues that made this supposed dev leave the dash project altogether:

good luck

So a dev doesn't get along with the lead dev and quits, such drama.

A child who didn't get respect he thought he deserve  Roll Eyes
vertoe then left and scammed people with cachecoin.

Secound that sold 100 dash to buy cachecoin only to be scammed by vertoe. Now Im  sticking with Evan as he has my full trust and support. Just ignore trolls just trying to make us sell so they can buy..
hero member
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This is worth reposting here as it gives a take from the inner circles of dash dev team etc at a point in the past and the issues that made this supposed dev leave the dash project altogether:

good luck

So a dev doesn't get along with the lead dev and quits, such drama.

A child who didn't get respect he thought he deserve  Roll Eyes
vertoe then left and scammed people with cachecoin.
sr. member
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Merit: 250
This is worth reposting here as it gives a take from the inner circles of dash dev team etc at a point in the past and the issues that made this supposed dev leave the dash project altogether:

good luck

So a dev doesn't get along with the lead dev and quits, such drama.

Breaking news!!!    
Oh right - it was seven months ago. Thank you smoothie for the valuable service you provide! This is how you use your time? No one cares.
Perhaps you can enlighten us on what vertoe went on to do?
hero member
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This is worth reposting here as it gives a take from the inner circles of dash dev team etc at a point in the past and the issues that made this supposed dev leave the dash project altogether:

good luck

So a dev doesn't get along with the lead dev and quits, such drama.
legendary
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Video #1:
Evan Duffield Dash Presentation and Pre-Announcement ‘Evolution’
at Bitcoin Wednesday (Amsterdam) 7 October, 2015

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JD9kZXWAeSs



Video #2:
Evan Duffield Q & A about Dash
at Bitcoin Wednesday (Amsterdam) 7 October, 2015

https://youtu.be/t7K9RMV3H6w
legendary
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LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
This is worth reposting here as it gives a take from the inner circles of dash dev team etc at a point in the past and the issues that made this supposed dev leave the dash project altogether:

So yes there is ideology behind this coin : privacy, liberty, freedom, try to make the world less directed by "power" and more with the heart...

I hope that changing the name will not make the ideology behind it change too, otherwhise it will failed.

There's no ideology in something that nobody uses. The ideology's in the design, not the name. Vertoe is justified in leaving over not being consulted but less so over 'ideology'.

It's not a rock song that's being built here it's electronic money.

The name can easily be compromised without any loss of principle but the functionality can't. So Evan has got his priorities right in that regard.

no.

i left because i disagree darkcoin or however it will be called next year is not a decentralized entity. it never was but i ignored it as long as darkcoin was following the same path i was following. the path to total financial privacy. and thats why i am so upset about how this currency is lead by a single person. darkcoin is like an old conservative company with strong hierarchical comamnd structures and a single person on the top of the pyramid. evan duffield. the rebranding using a detergent name was just a step forward in creating something like apple or paypal. fuck this i tell you. what we need is a trustless, decentralized and anonymous currency. darkcoin is not decentralized as it still relies on a single person. and this reaches deep into the code base.

the core devs were just a bunch of volunteers exploited for the big thing. the extended darkcoin team was the same with even a lower place to sit on that pyramid. and what was the darkcoin foundation again? right, something to reserve some rights on some names and collect money. who nominated and voted for the foundation board? who does even know who are these guys? how did we learn about the foundation? from local news papers! the team listings kept counting names of people nobody ever noticed before. and they never committed anything visible to the community or the repository. and i was spending 25 hours a day monitory everything that happened in the darkcoin community for more than a year. the things going on here are fishy, intransparent and rely on a single entity.

i will get out and and will contribute to something decentralized and anonymous. i always hoped darkcoin could fill that void. i cant blame anyone to stay with this project. you are probably investors trying to win a gold donkey. or you are simply trying to exploit every possible vector of profit in the coins space. whatever. you are not here because darkcoin is something it claims to be.

if you disagree with my statement above, i dont care, but answer that simple question: what if evan duffield suddenly announces he quits the project tomorrow morning?

good luck
hero member
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Is there a reliable dash explorer with an api method for unspent outputs? 

Not sure, there's a couple here but I've no idea if they have an api:
http://explorer.dashninja.pl/chain/Dash
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/dash/

Thanks, i'll take a look.
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guster@guster-HP-Compaq-nc4400-RL880AW-AB1:~$ curl https://icanhazip.com/
curl: (6) Could not resolve host: icanhazip.com

I think the (6) means it's trying to use your ipv6 interface, but you don't have dns configured on it.

See if adding -4 (see below) works for you. Then try the -6 (as below)
I may have to patch dashman to avoid misconfigured ipv6 interfaces:

Code:
$ curl -4 https://icanhazip.com
178.62.165.211
$ curl -6 https://icanhazip.com
2a03:b0c0:0:1010::4f:a001


after set dns 8.8.8.8   8.8.4.4  

guster@guster-HP-Compaq-nc4400-RL880AW-AB1:~$ curl https://icanhazip.com
121.138.121.36

success.
thanks moocowmoo.


moocowmoo check this transation.
Address: XmoocowYfrPKUR6p6M5aJZdVntQe71irCX
TxId: 2ddb94b5183722828b4a2494b7bb8c2fa8e43fd75127a3afa5b0b4a7b5256ba1
 
Thanks for your help yesterday  and  very good dashman application.


newbie
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...

The whole idea behind the Virtual Corporation is that anyone can step up to the plate and work for it, if accepted by the voters.

And I must suggest strongly, that anyone wanting to do a proposal, think months in advance, start a discussion on it (preferably on Dashwhale).  You need time to gain the approval of such a diverse group of voters.  The community needs time to digest your proposal, make suggestions, and for you to implement those suggestions.  In a very real way, the forum thread that contains your proposal is your contract with the Dash Virtual Corporation.  These proposals have been coming out so loosely, mostly things that Evan says he'd like us to do, and we just do it.  Eventually, proposals should come from anyone, and they should be formalized in a thread, with final specifications and a time table.  The community should keep them honest and raise the red flag if something is going wrong, so the MN can vote down the proposal and stop the funding on solid grounds.  

Don't get me wrong, we Know our current core team are keeping tight watch on all funds they spend, and they're a small group doing so many things, but plan on putting that ledger out for public view.  But that's not how a decentralized system should work, (relying on one person to tell us what to fund and do) and we need to start setting up some rules/traditions.  IMO Smiley

Look what happened to DashWhale's proposal.  The implimented Evan's vision of a place where we can manage Dash voting, and a forum for proposals.  However, Evan never formally Green lighted the project, I suspect because he doesn't want to be the almighty dictator and to let MN voters do the right thing.  And MN voters won't support it, with many saying the reason was that Evan didn't say they should.  We all (community and MN voters) need to grow up and make the decisions that are right for Dash.  Will others that start projects, hoping to show they can do it prior to asking for funding, now stop because it looks very much like they can't win approval?  A project that's already obviously had a TON of work put into it for the benefit of the Dash Virtual Corporation, can't even get funding boggles my mind.

Otherwise it's been going very well Smiley

This hits the nail on the head, TanteStefana2.  Wink
hero member
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Is there a reliable dash explorer with an api method for unspent outputs? 
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Yes I will wait that stuff is beyond me right now.  I am going to focus on acquiring 10k DASH before year end. Then I will dive into masternodes. I know a good vision when I see one. This coin is gold IMO.

If you want to get your first 1,000 Dash into a masternode in a matter of minutes, check out https://node40.com

The Dash stays in your wallet. We commission, manage and monitor the masternode server for you. You sit back and watch the rewards come directly to your wallet.

These guys are truly heroes. I wouldn't have set up a MN before these guys showed up. Easy peasy and not a single issue with regards to security of your stash. Recommended without a doubt.. Smiley
sr. member
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The only delay element to it is you lose your place in the que for payments, so if you spend any of the 1k just after receiving a payment you lose nothing. If it was last paid a few days ago you lose those few days in waiting for a payment if you move 1k back in and reactivate it.

EDIT: There's also an Easter egg in the payment calcs, 1/100 chance of receiving a double payment Wink

I can confirm this is true... I received a double payment the other day from one of my MNs  Grin Tongue

Walter
legendary
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Bitcoin trying to poke through the 270/280 resistance levels. Double / triple top on the 4-hour. Volume slightly less on this last peak. If it doesn't make it, possible retrace back to 240-260.



The real question is what's going to happen on this chart ? It needs to get to around 320-350 to have established a real long-term breakout and start pulling in new capital to the cryptocurrency economy (including Dash).



However, the 1-week OBV (which is a more predictive view of things) suggests that the corner has definitely been turned and volume is coming back in to drive the market more fundamentally. (Though shorter range OBV's indicate that yet another retrace is on the cards before a longer term breakout. All depends on getting through the 270-280 level. Triple-top usually means a bounce-back).



(P.S. Bitbay volume spike. Could get interesting).
sr. member
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bovine quadruped, professional loafer, dash dev
Oh man, I'm one of the many Dash Fans that wishes they could code so bad!  It would be so much fun to contribute!  Instead I must sit on the sidelines Sad  Me = NoCodeTalent :..(

It's like learning an instrument.
You just have to jump in and code every day.
(and suck at it for the first couple of years)
legendary
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It's quite possible. Wink

And, it's possible you might not even have to back anything up except for a bunch of random words...

If you and Evan and the other core developers say so, it's all I need Smiley

Oh man, I'm one of the many Dash Fans that wishes they could code so bad!  It would be so much fun to contribute!  Instead I must sit on the sidelines Sad  Me = NoCodeTalent :..(
legendary
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I came across this site : https://www.minds.com/Dashpay
do we know who's site it is ?

edit : appearently its from someone called "MindSet" who created it 17th of june 2015
as alternative to Facebook. Looks rather up to date as well.

And it has 118 Subscribers ... not bad.

Oh yah, that's the privacy-centric social network site I was trying to find again.  Now it's been a while, so I can't remember, but I think it's distributed?   I wanted to post it on a thread in DashTalk, so cool someone made a Dash page!

Can't see anything about distributed in the info, any idea where you might have heard that?

EDIT: For something that's proud to be open-source the source is a bit elusive :/ That minds.com name seems a bit beyond the reach of their revenue model too, nothing dubious about its encryption?

Then I must be wrong about it.  I saw it posted, probably here, and it sounded like it was distributed.  There are some distributed social networks in the works, but I don't see how they'll work if there is no revenue stream planned.  Of course the MN network could do this Wink
sr. member
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bovine quadruped, professional loafer, dash dev

Nice!

Just watched Evan speaking in the Netherlands....really excited to see the decentralized API and learn more about what the implications of that are.

want to run a command? pick any server out of thousands, connect and send your request.

your request (and response) will be verified by a set of (for all intents and purposes) random servers which must all agree on the validity of the request (and it's response) before it is processed/returned to you.

The possibilities for requests and responses are endless.

if this is possible, it's pretty amazing.  It means that if you have 1 back up of your wallet from any point in time, you can NOT lose your funds!  

It's quite possible. Wink

And, it's possible you might not even have to back anything up except a bunch of random words... Or nothing at all. Smiley
legendary
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Nice!

Just watched Evan speaking in the Netherlands....really excited to see the decentralized API and learn more about what the implications of that are.

One of the most exciting ones was on Evan's update announcement on Dashtalk.  Imagine that you have a wallet that keeps all it's information between devices.  That is, you open your computer, and use the wallet there to buy something on OpenBazaar, then you run to the store with your smart phone, and purchase some food for dinner, paying with the same wallet, which knows the transaction from the first wallet... now your wife goes out to get some gasoline, and you have a shared Dash wallet, so she pays with her phone, same wallet, and that wallet also knows the transactions from earlier in the day.  

Now lets say the wallet only had one known address loaded when saved to different devices (so basically, I'm trying to show how newly generated addresses can be automatically a part of different versions of the wallet.)

How can that be?  With an API, the wallets can stay synced because the network can hold encrypted information for your wallet, that your devices stay up to date on.  Now I don't understand all the specifics, but if this is possible, it's pretty amazing.  It means that if you have 1 back up of your wallet from any point in time, you can NOT lose your funds!  

That alone, besides ease of use, is worth platinum.
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