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Topic: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency - page 1705. (Read 9723973 times)

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So yes there is ideology behind this coin : privacy, liberty, freedom, try to make the world less directed by "power" and more with the heart...

I hope that changing the name will not make the ideology behind it change too, otherwhise it will failed.

There's no ideology in something that nobody uses. The ideology's in the design, not the name. Vertoe is justified in leaving over not being consulted but less so over 'ideology'.

It's not a rock song that's being built here it's electronic money.

The name can easily be compromised without any loss of principle but the functionality can't. So Evan has got his priorities right in that regard.

no.

i left because i disagree darkcoin or however it will be called next year is not a decentralized entity. it never was but i ignored it as long as darkcoin was following the same path i was following. the path to total financial privacy. and thats why i am so upset about how this currency is lead by a single person. darkcoin is like an old conservative company with strong hierarchical comamnd structures and a single person on the top of the pyramid. evan duffield. the rebranding using a detergent name was just a step forward in creating something like apple or paypal. fuck this i tell you. what we need is a trustless, decentralized and anonymous currency. darkcoin is not decentralized as it still relies on a single person. and this reaches deep into the code base.

the core devs were just a bunch of volunteers exploited for the big thing. the extended darkcoin team was the same with even a lower place to sit on that pyramid. and what was the darkcoin foundation again? right, something to reserve some rights on some names and collect money. who nominated and voted for the foundation board? who does even know who are these guys? how did we learn about the foundation? from local news papers! the team listings kept counting names of people nobody ever noticed before. and they never committed anything visible to the community or the repository. and i was spending 25 hours a day monitory everything that happened in the darkcoin community for more than a year. the things going on here are fishy, intransparent and rely on a single entity.

i will get out and and will contribute to something decentralized and anonymous. i always hoped darkcoin could fill that void. i cant blame anyone to stay with this project. you are probably investors trying to win a gold donkey. or you are simply trying to exploit every possible vector of profit in the coins space. whatever. you are not here because darkcoin is something it claims to be.

if you disagree with my statement above, i dont care, but answer that simple question: what if evan duffield suddenly announces he quits the project tomorrow morning?

good luck

This is great reading material for all those who are new to DASH. Learn from someone who spent a lot of time here and liked DASH before becoming educated about the entire situation. Learn from the mistakes of others, or ignore their wisdom and learn on your own. The former option is less expensive.
legendary
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?? This one:
https://www.dashpay.io/binaries/dash-0.12.0.55-linux64.tar.gz

Will give it a try and see what I get, downloading it now.

yeah this one

Idk, tried extracting it somewhere else? I know it overwrites the directory so maybe there's something in there with permissions changed but never had any issue before here :/

yes i tried. same outcome.

i usually just switch dashd and dash-cli, but that shouldnt cause an issue, right?

make sure:
- daemon actually stopped before switching them: "dash-cli stop" and wait few seconds before switching
- you moved both executables (dashd and dash-cli) to the same place as always (i.e. /usr/local/bin/ for example)
- you have no autostart script enabled that could start daemon before you replaced it

finally run "dashd --help" to get info about version without actually running the daemon and confirm that version match the one you expected
if it still doesn't match try "which dashd" and make sure output match expected path
ImI
legendary
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?? This one:
https://www.dashpay.io/binaries/dash-0.12.0.55-linux64.tar.gz

Will give it a try and see what I get, downloading it now.

yeah this one

Idk, tried extracting it somewhere else? I know it overwrites the directory so maybe there's something in there with permissions changed but never had any issue before here :/

yes i tried. same outcome.

i usually just switch dashd and dash-cli, but that shouldnt cause an issue, right?

Not as far as I know, I used to do the same but usually just extract it and let it overwrite the existing folder since about when v12 came in. Tried moo on dashtalk? Think he's on at the mo.

no, not yet. its late and i will have to try further tomorrow. let me know if you had any issues.
ImI
legendary
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?? This one:
https://www.dashpay.io/binaries/dash-0.12.0.55-linux64.tar.gz

Will give it a try and see what I get, downloading it now.

yeah this one

Idk, tried extracting it somewhere else? I know it overwrites the directory so maybe there's something in there with permissions changed but never had any issue before here :/

yes i tried. same outcome.

i usually just switch dashd and dash-cli, but that shouldnt cause an issue, right?
ImI
legendary
Activity: 1946
Merit: 1019
?? This one:
https://www.dashpay.io/binaries/dash-0.12.0.55-linux64.tar.gz

Will give it a try and see what I get, downloading it now.

yeah this one
ImI
legendary
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hero member
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Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahha!!!!

Oh my god,  now your really reaching for straws. Your making your self look like a putts.  vertoe has his/her own shit to deal with on some other matters before you bounce that as some meaningful moral or ethical measuring stick.

And here's the deal... Once and for all.... Break the code,  prove that's it's a fake anonymity.  Until you or any other arm chair coder moral crusader can prove otherwise... Your a liar!  
ImI
legendary
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hey folks,

i download 12.55 from dashpay.io and after dashd -getinfo it says i have got 12.45

wtf is wrong?!
sr. member
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again guys, look in the mirror. This was the guy taking my picture (without me giving permission to publish it):

dutchn0mad

Even if you could prove* it was this guy who took your picture: Don't know, don't care.
He's not out there smearing and slandering another project during its own gig like you did. Your nicknames not only reflect your physique but much more your behaviour, poor character and weak personality.

So enjoy your legacy:




*which you haven't in the slightest, for all I care this could be a random large guy you cherry picked from the crowd in a lame attempt of deflection
sr. member
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I’ve seen a number of people suggest that node operators should receive a cut of mining fees, but the fundamental problem is for a node to be able to prove that it is a real node that hosts the blockchain. Because it’s easy to fake nodes — take the Pseudonode project, for example

This is interesting. Is the collateral enough to prevent the creation of fake DASH nodes? Or would it be possible to activate several nodes with the same 1000 DASH due to the requirement delays? Do Masternodes additionally score each other to prevent this?
legendary
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Crypto is the separation of Power and State.
Dash is a company. Or more accurately, a Decentralised Autonomous Organisation and its the first of its kind Cool

DAO is a sci-fi buzzword.  Saying it doesn't make Dash stop being centralized.

Buzzwords and blue-sky projects aside, Dash is the opposite of decentralized.

Cite: https://docs.google.com/document/d/143Uwls4ZZrN7pS7bWfjk03i90TWskjy8scNB2U0HOoo/

That is why vertoe said "fuck this" and stopped being a Darkcoin core dev.

Cite:
i left because i disagree darkcoin or however it will be called next year is not a decentralized entity. it never was but i ignored it as long as darkcoin was following the same path i was following.

this currency is lead by a single person. darkcoin is like an old conservative company with strong hierarchical comamnd structures and a single person on the top of the pyramid. evan duffield. the rebranding using a detergent name was just a step forward in creating something like apple or paypal.

fuck this i tell you. what we need is a trustless, decentralized and anonymous currency. darkcoin is not decentralized as it still relies on a single person. and this reaches deep into the code base.

the core devs were just a bunch of volunteers exploited for the big thing.

the extended darkcoin team was the same with even a lower place to sit on that pyramid. and what was the darkcoin foundation again? right, something to reserve some rights on some names and collect money. who nominated and voted for the foundation board? who does even know who are these guys? how did we learn about the foundation? from local news papers!

the team listings kept counting names of people nobody ever noticed before. and they never committed anything visible to the community or the repository. and i was spending 25 hours a day monitory everything that happened in the darkcoin community for more than a year.

the things going on here are fishy, intransparent and rely on a single entity.

i will get out and and will contribute to something decentralized
and anonymous. i always hoped darkcoin could fill that void. i cant blame anyone to stay with this project. you are probably investors trying to win a gold donkey. or you are simply trying to exploit every possible vector of profit in the coins space. whatever. you are not here because darkcoin is something it claims to be.

if you disagree with my statement above, i dont care, but answer that simple question: what if evan duffield suddenly announces he quits the project tomorrow morning?

Bus Factor of 1?  Centralization confirmed!


Do you have Dash or have any interest in becoming involved? Do you have any holdings that could be considered a competitor to Dash, similar features such as anonymity for example?

If vertoe doesn't have any interest in being involved, why should I (or anyone else besides "golden donkey" chasers)?

I don't care about Dash's fake anonymity and only hlod coins with mathmatically proven privacy.
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Maybe its a good idea to stop using the Monero Guy meme...
sr. member
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Quantum entangled and jump drive assisted messages
There are a few threads going on over at r/Bitcoin about incentivizing nodes that might be of interest to people here.  Dash has been mentioned in both of them.
Thanks for the info.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3p84us/to_node_or_not_to_node_exploring_incentives_to/
and
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3p5n9c/number_of_bitcoin_nodes_is_at_a_6_year_low_if_you/

'The other problem is that it's not easy to set a bandwidth rate limit.
I believe that more people would run nodes if the Bitcoin client just ran unobtrusively and reliably in the background, consuming no more than about 100GB of bandwidth per month by default. '
legendary
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sr. member
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estimated Dash inflation or total supply over the next 10 years?

thanks
legendary
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Demented bagholders of encrypted bookkeeping balances that they thought was money - who come here begging us to lighten their bags for them - are pretty "out of control" as well.
legendary
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Crypto is the separation of Power and State.

Yes, the Quiz spam is out of control.

If you have to bribe people with giveaways to use Dashtalk, it probably sucks.

Giveaway threads are not allowed, so posts advertising those on another forum should be moderated.
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Crypto Card - https://platinum.crypto.com/r/28cz7d
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I wonder what Vertoe thinks now with decentralized governance being established? The foundation was put in place way before that was ever in our vocabulary.
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There are a few threads going on over at r/Bitcoin about incentivizing nodes that might be of interest to people here.  Dash has been mentioned in both of them.
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