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Topic: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency - page 1708. (Read 9723973 times)

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Monero has instant mixing, no masternodes needed.

Yes, the approaches are different. That's pretty much understood.


Yeah, anyone can propose a project for Monero too, we have a forum funding system that already paid several developers. And you know what? These people are paid by donations, NOT by inflation. That's a huge difference... We trust that our community want to invest in the development, you guys need to "steal" from holders of the coin to pay for development by inflating the supply. (or if you loo at it from another angle, you steal from miners and "masternode operators") Did you ever wonder what would happen when there are no more "free coins" to hand out?

The inflation has not increased after the blockchain funding was activated. What do you mean?

Having a funding mechanism built into the protocol doesn't mean a dev couldn't create a gambling site and use the profits for development or people couldn't still donate if their preferred project doesn't get the necessary votes from the network.


InstantX is some kind of "hard mempool". That is not secure. The ledger is written by the miners. So accepting an InstantX is risky.  

Nothing is 100% secure. But please elaborate. Could you describe an attack vector that could realistically be used to perform a double spend?
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I didn't reply because it's so obvious it is flawed...Monero has instant mixing, no masternodes needed

Thats because Monero mixes fake data with real. Dash mixes real with real in a way thats consistent with the transparency requirements demanded of a trustless, unbacked currency.

On the other hand, Monero's whole ethos is not to act as a currency but as an encrypted, distributed cyphering system which has little to do with establishing a new base monetary media.
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Dont mind me guys, i'm just enjoying the show.. i just hope he doesn't exspect tips aftwards.
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so... You guys have pretty ladies and we have real decent working technology that is appreciated by several well known reputable people
If you want snake oil covered girls, great. Go for it.

We have decent tech, no girls. I can live with that.

Lets have a look at one of your previous posts on that, one you had no reply for btw:

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1) the fact that you need liquidity providers to have somewhat usable mixing (still very slow) shows clearly that your system is flawed
2) the "decentralized autonomous organization" is neither decentralized, nor autonomous as it requires a "fund manager" for the liquidity providers.
3) instantX is a crazy form of "proof of stake" which is just flawed by design. You can't get consensus when miners decide to mine a double spend in stead of the "locked" transaction.

Slow and will probably won't be near instant even with thousands involved (unless instant transactions come into it), the liquidity providers are a test for implementing it as a running function rather than a feature.

Anyone can propose a project to fund, its easier to get a handle on it on dashwhale than explain it but all sorts of budgets are being discussed. It costs 5 dash to put it to a vote which you get back if it passes:
https://www.dashwhale.org/index.php?page=budget&action=active

InstantX uses quorums, well established in distributed computing and the miners seal it all up and make it final each block:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quorum_%28distributed_computing%29


I didn't reply because it's so obvious it is flawed, that it doesn't really need explaining. But hey, let's go for it:

Monero has instant mixing, no masternodes needed.

Yeah, anyone can propose a project for Monero too, we have a forum funding system that already paid several developers. And you know what? These people are paid by donations, NOT by inflation. That's a huge difference... We trust that our community want to invest in the development, you guys need to "steal" from holders of the coin to pay for development by inflating the supply. (or if you look at it from another angle, you steal from miners and "masternode operators") Did you ever wonder what would happen when there are no more "free coins" to hand out?

InstantX is some kind of "hard mempool". That is not secure. The ledger is written by the miners. So accepting an InstantX is risky.  


Some of these trolls are reaching new lows, which i thought was impossible these days.
Congratz dnaleor, you just beat AdamWhite & iCEBREAKER  


i am totally with you brother
lol
this is getting serious hilarious here
 Grin

Its about time we got a good comedian in our forum to entertain us.
I guess we found our comedian.  Grin
Don't hope for it.
My posts here already are a waste of time because you guys don't seem to understand what the problem is.
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Some of these trolls are reaching new lows, which i thought was impossible these days.
Congratz dnaleor, you just beat AdamWhite & iCEBREAKER  


i am totally with you brother
lol
this is getting serious hilarious here
 Grin

Its about time we got a good comedian in our forum to entertain us.
I guess we found our comedian.  Grin
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Some of these trolls are reaching new lows, which i thought was impossible these days.
Congratz dnaleor, you just beat AdamWhite & iCEBREAKER  


i am totally with you brother
lol
this is getting serious hilarious here
 Grin
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By the way, the picture of me handing out the flyer needs some context:
I didn't hand the flyers out to everybody, I chose people based on conversations I had with them or questions they asked during Q&A.
That guy did had some valid criticism towards DASH. I talked to him about the functioning monero technology that is live. I think he appreciated this, after a presentation full of BS tech that isn't usable and a marketing talk containing some "announcements" that basically was a vague slide with no implementation.

Looks fine to me but if it bothers you we also have these folks...

Hi,
I've produced the unofficial interpretation of our official «What is Dash?» video.


First Dash Music Video!


Maximum repost, please! Let's get 1.000.000 views! Wink

To support my unofficial promotions, please donate DASH to: XxG6WRPA5ef767m37eEbGjK8T1UPAVGdCq

Monero have got you for advertising and we have this.



so... You guys have pretty ladies and we have real decent working technology that is appreciated by several well known reputable people
If you want snake oil covered girls, great. Go for it.

We have decent tech, no girls. I can live with that.
legendary
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Some of these trolls are reaching new lows, which i thought was impossible these days.
Congratz dnaleor, you just beat AdamWhite & iCEBREAKER  

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By the way, the picture of me handing out the flyer needs some context:
I didn't hand the flyers out to everybody, I chose people based on conversations I had with them or questions they asked during Q&A.
That guy did had some valid criticism towards DASH. I talked to him about the functioning monero technology that is live. I think he appreciated this, after a presentation full of BS tech that isn't usable and a marketing talk containing some "announcements" that basically was a vague slide with no implementation.

Looks fine to me but if it bothers you we also have these folks...

Hi,
I've produced the unofficial interpretation of our official «What is Dash?» video.


First Dash Music Video!


Maximum repost, please! Let's get 1.000.000 views! Wink

To support my unofficial promotions, please donate DASH to: XxG6WRPA5ef767m37eEbGjK8T1UPAVGdCq

Monero have got you for advertising and we have this.
legendary
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Here is a picture of the guy who took that pic of me: dutchn0mad on your forum:

Ok? Is that him trolling at some Monero event, or?

I wasn't trolling.

If spreading BS is allowed, I can at least spread the truth.

By the way, the picture of me handing out the flyer needs some context:
I didn't hand the flyers out to everybody, I chose people based on conversations I had with them or questions they asked during Q&A.
That guy did had some valid criticism towards DASH. I talked to him about the functioning monero technology that is live. I think he appreciated this, after a presentation full of BS tech that isn't usable and a marketing talk containing some "announcements" that basically was a vague slide with no implementation.

full disclosure, these were the flyers: (click to enlarge)
flyer 1 (front and back):




flyer 2:
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I hold a good amont of dash. Never sold.
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Morning guys, question please for anyone?

Sub-Ether was at a party yesterday, and at said party he started discussing Dash masternodes to an IT guy(as you do) and went on to talk about the anonymization features and the fact that lots of people are having their accounts closed by good ol Brian at Coinbase.

Explaining the Dash concepts came with some understanding, where I come unstuck was I said that bitcoins can become marked or 'tainted' and this shows where they came from as an potential identifier.
My question is, how easy is it to mark a bitcoin, and if then marked, does that mean the hash is placed in the blockchain hence can it be traced indefinitely, perhaps with a 10 byte indentifier in the transaction somehow, or does/can the id get removed in future transactions?
(not including bitcoindark or other 3rd party workarounds, bitcoin to bitcoin out of the box, as is)

TIA
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Isn't that flare next to him?
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Here is a picture of the guy who took that pic of me: dutchn0mad on your forum:

Ok? Is that him trolling and fudding at some Monero event, or?
legendary
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let me see, where do we stand with Dash ?

Marketcap : 5th for some time now --> check
Number of active masternodes : new ATH --> check
ANN Dash Forum : most viewed thread --> check
Altcoin most active development --> check
PR & Marketing : in startup phase --> check

I don't see Dash dropping off the radar anytime soon....

  
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seems to me that the world is beating the path to the door of lower price which rather implies its just not working......

some things need to change - and quickly cos if you drop off the radar you are lost in the abyss of alts


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if we give ourselves the official identity, our capacity is millions of times.  we need to become a company  Smiley And to show the world we do not coins.

We see everyday a new shit coin is born and all of them are under colonialism Bitcoin  Lips sealed

We have a new money system technology  Cool

He did, Dash is a company. Or more accurately, a Decentralised Autonomous Organisation and its the first of its kind Cool


no it's not, We are still under colonialism Bitcoin Smiley


paypal How was born? And to the financial system and now has 195 million users.

We give ourselves the official identity.  Inc company  Wink

Our company can have seed funding

A small example: 1 million dollars seed funding can be spent to hire 100 new professional programmer and evan is supervisor of them, how much work went quickly change?

I'm sure allowing investment for a return could be integrated into the funding mechanism but ultimately that's up to the voters. I'd wondered about it before but would be against it unless a big no-brainer advancement that needs large scale investment comes up, Dash is the better mousetrap and the world will beat a path to its door.

Have you had a look at how the funding and decision making works? It doesn't need any external action, development's funded, PR, infrastructure and anything else that makes sense to the masternode operators. That system's just at the beginning of its evolution and there's a lot to learn, it needs to evolve and when its a little more matured its unlikely to need any external funding Wink
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Everything its credibility comes from people who know him, The current Reputation of Dash, thereby recognizing people.

A few days ago I suggest Evan establish a company, We are powerful Because our technology, but the main poles of btc big holder are killing us.


dash has advantages that Bitcoin to even a blind man can see, So why prices will not rise?

And always remained within a certain range?

The first mistake we compare ourselves with Bitcoin,Because they (btc big holder) allowed to repress us For the survival of their asset.

Believe it or not, slowing growth Dash is just behind Bitcoin Mafia

We have the technology to them advantage, they survive by entering a large amount of btc to our market for control dash market.


if we give ourselves the official identity, our capacity is millions of times.  we need to become a company  Smiley And to show the world we do not coins.

We see everyday a new shit coin is born and all of them are under colonialism Bitcoin  Lips sealed

We have a new money system technology  Cool

He did, Dash is a company. Or more accurately, a Decentralised Autonomous Organisation and its the first of its kind Cool


no it's not, We are still under colonialism Bitcoin Smiley


paypal How was born? And to the financial system and now has 195 million users.

We give ourselves the official identity.  Inc company  Wink

Our company can have seed funding in Future

A small example: 1 million dollars seed funding can be spent to hire 100 new professional programmer and evan is supervisor of them.

How much work went quickly change?

How quickly our technology develop?



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Those people who did X11 cloud mining must be pretty bleak at the price drop since signing on.
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A PR activist of another coin made a claim that InstantX is not safe and seems to have a lot of flaws. Anyone happen to know what these flaws are that he is talking about?

instant confirmations aren't safe. instantX seems to have a lot of flaws, so we are not messing with that.

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-Peter Todd on InstantX

GreenAddresses require trust and don't work for everyone. InstantX is trustless and works for everyone. Anything else I should know about InstantX's flaws?
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