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legendary
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LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
I compiled the exe for Windows... no blocks yet, just a bazillion rejects.

Any chance you could upload that windows client exe? I'd be willing to throw 5k XCO at you. Just make sure it's the latest source from github

"No premine"...


yet was able to throw 5,000 XCO/DRK/DSH/whatever at someone to compile a windows binary.

Launched this coin with only Linux miner available it appears.

Which was worth 0.125 BTC a couple of weeks after the launch.

Sometimes coins take off and sometimes they don't.

The price at which it was offered has no bearing.

The mere fact that it was insta-mined is still dishonest.

It has a lot of bearing. And what the price was back then compared to what it is now, has even more bearing. It has bought you here for example. If it hadn't taken off you wouldn't be here complaining about it.

No please don't put words in my mouth.

Price has nothing to do with it.

Simply dishonesty is dishonesty whether it is over $0.01 or $10,000,000.

I was here 4 years ago outing scams like Solidcoin from user Realsolid AKA Coinhunter. Look at my post history and the price of coins back then BTC was $5 and SLC (or whatever acronym they used) was $0.01 each.

I see it as black and white. There is no gray area. Oh and by the way you should probably ask me how I would have reacted had the price stayed low for all of its existence instead of presuming what I would do.

Shows your character by doing that.

Eagerly waiting to see your posts in Axiom thread any time now. I'll let you know of others but I'll let you start there.

Nice you didn't even admit you failed to consult me on my actions before making presumptions of what I would do based on my 4 year track record.

Good job!
legendary
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Much ado about nothing this Sunday afternoon...
hero member
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I compiled the exe for Windows... no blocks yet, just a bazillion rejects.

Any chance you could upload that windows client exe? I'd be willing to throw 5k XCO at you. Just make sure it's the latest source from github

"No premine"...


yet was able to throw 5,000 XCO/DRK/DSH/whatever at someone to compile a windows binary.

Launched this coin with only Linux miner available it appears.

Which was worth 0.125 BTC a couple of weeks after the launch.

Sometimes coins take off and sometimes they don't.

The price at which it was offered has no bearing.

The mere fact that it was insta-mined is still dishonest.

It has a lot of bearing. And what the price was back then compared to what it is now, has even more bearing. It has bought you here for example. If it hadn't taken off you wouldn't be here complaining about it.

No please don't put words in my mouth.

Price has nothing to do with it.

Simply dishonesty is dishonesty whether it is over $0.01 or $10,000,000.

I was here 4 years ago outing scams like Solidcoin from user Realsolid AKA Coinhunter. Look at my post history and the price of coins back then BTC was $5 and SLC (or whatever acronym they used) was $0.01 each.

I see it as black and white. There is no gray area. Oh and by the way you should probably ask me how I would have reacted had the price stayed low for all of its existence instead of presuming what I would do.

Shows your character by doing that.

Eagerly waiting to see your posts in Axiom thread any time now. I'll let you know of others but I'll let you start there.
hero member
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Do you think that someone just makes an "oops" mistake then goes on to not relaunch the coin given the unfair distribution?

Does that not sound questionable at all?

It was already relaunched once, relaunching it once more would've irritated a lot of miners who were standing by ready to mine already having been through one canceled launch. Would it have been the correct decision in retrospect? Yes. Then why wasn't it? Maybe Evan didn't want to irritate those people anymore than they already were. Maybe he thought it was no big deal as he never could've imagined how big the coin would grow and didn't realize the extent of the problem. Or maybe the other dev team member opposed another relaunch. Or maybe it was an elaborate scam of theirs. Or something else. Take your pick.
legendary
Activity: 2492
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LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
I compiled the exe for Windows... no blocks yet, just a bazillion rejects.

Any chance you could upload that windows client exe? I'd be willing to throw 5k XCO at you. Just make sure it's the latest source from github

"No premine"...


yet was able to throw 5,000 XCO/DRK/DSH/whatever at someone to compile a windows binary.

Launched this coin with only Linux miner available it appears.

Which was worth 0.125 BTC a couple of weeks after the launch.

Sometimes coins take off and sometimes they don't.

The price at which it was offered has no bearing.

The mere fact that it was insta-mined is still dishonest.

It has a lot of bearing. And what the price was back then compared to what it is now, has even more bearing. It has bought you here for example. If it hadn't taken off you wouldn't be here complaining about it.

No please don't put words in my mouth.

Price has nothing to do with it.

Simply dishonesty is dishonesty whether it is over $0.01 or $10,000,000.

I was here 4 years ago outing scams like Solidcoin from user Realsolid AKA Coinhunter. Look at my post history and the price of coins back then BTC was $5 and SLC (or whatever acronym they used) was $0.01 each.

I see it as black and white. There is no gray area. Oh and by the way you should probably ask me how I would have reacted had the price stayed low for all of its existence instead of presuming what I would do.

Shows your character by doing that.
legendary
Activity: 2492
Merit: 1491
LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
That the instamine happened is indisputable. Perhaps what you want is for me to speculate about who got the coins, when they were sold, at what price, who to, who made masternodes with them etc.

Okay so you admit that DRK was instamined?

The blockchain has nothing at all to do with belief in it, or my admissions.

https://dashtalk.org/threads/the-birth-of-darkcoin.162/

You didn't answer the question.

I thought I had just said that it happened. I'm not sure why you want me to say it again.

I won't reply again because I can see you are enjoying the attention and you are bringing nothing which hasn't already been discussed dozens of times before in this very thread.

Nice try but you actually did not answer my question. I wanted to be clear on that. You ignored it and posted a link.

Now that I got your answer I can pin you down on we can now move forward.

Do you think that someone just makes an "oops" mistake then goes on to not relaunch the coin given the unfair distribution?

Does that not sound questionable at all?
hero member
Activity: 966
Merit: 1003
I compiled the exe for Windows... no blocks yet, just a bazillion rejects.

Any chance you could upload that windows client exe? I'd be willing to throw 5k XCO at you. Just make sure it's the latest source from github

"No premine"...


yet was able to throw 5,000 XCO/DRK/DSH/whatever at someone to compile a windows binary.

Launched this coin with only Linux miner available it appears.

Which was worth 0.125 BTC a couple of weeks after the launch.

Sometimes coins take off and sometimes they don't.

The price at which it was offered has no bearing.

The mere fact that it was insta-mined is still dishonest.

It has a lot of bearing. And what the price was back then compared to what it is now, has even more bearing. It has bought you here for example. If it hadn't taken off you wouldn't be here complaining about it.
sr. member
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Merit: 250
That the instamine happened is indisputable. Perhaps what you want is for me to speculate about who got the coins, when they were sold, at what price, who to, who made masternodes with them etc.

Okay so you admit that DRK was instamined?

The blockchain has nothing at all to do with belief in it, or my admissions.

https://dashtalk.org/threads/the-birth-of-darkcoin.162/

You didn't answer the question.

I thought I had just said that it happened. I'm not sure why you want me to say it again.

I won't reply again because I can see you are enjoying the attention and you are bringing nothing which hasn't already been discussed dozens of times before in this very thread.
hero member
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Success is not when you mislead people into thinking you are honest when really you are not. Instamining DRK early on for any reason and then claiming it was a fair launch is dishonest at best.

I thought it was pretty much commonly acknowledged the launch was far from perfect.

Could you give your definition of a fair launch that differs from XCoin's launch and then link to posts from established DASH community members (as I believe when you're referring to "you", you mean prominent DASH community members) claiming the launch was fair.
legendary
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Do you hear that? thats the clicks you hear when a large number of people are putting a troll on ignore.



And it wasn't even a particular interesting troll, just the same old troll techniques being used.




legendary
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LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
Okay so you admit that DRK was instamined?

The blockchain has nothing at all to do with belief in it, or my admissions.

https://dashtalk.org/threads/the-birth-of-darkcoin.162/

So pretty much it says:

"oops we didn't know how many coins we mined very early on"

Yeah that's a great answer to an instamine..."oops"

You didn't answer the question.
sr. member
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Okay so you admit that DRK was instamined?

The blockchain has nothing at all to do with belief in it, or my admissions.

https://dashtalk.org/threads/the-birth-of-darkcoin.162/
legendary
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LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
An old donkey pedophile seller of coins.

Insults ...anything else?
hero member
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An old donkey pedophile seller of coins.
legendary
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LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
4 years..yup  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

So you're an old donkey ;-)

Oh now with the insults. =)

Was waiting for that to start...yes I guess I am.

Look at the class this community has to start insulting other users.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

I don't know what is more insulting Monero developers with their gambling site + a game to be one of the most usable currency in the World or Monero haters with their developers attacking other developers who actually created some AMAZING things that made OTHER developers to copy their AMAZING work. hmmm that's a hard one

Who says I am advertising monero or support it rigorously?

Presumptions once again.
legendary
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LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
People have a read below as it appears there are glaring facts about this coin that need to be made public.

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This seriously reminds me of CoinHunter A.K.A. RealSolid and his Solidcoin.

The facts from your post already are public, as is the speculation. They probably make up about 1/4 of this entire thread (perhaps a slight exaggeration).

One key difference between eduffield (Evan Duffield) is that is a real, identifiable person, who appears in videos, conferences, on podcasts etc., whereas someone like CoinHunter/RealSolid hides behind a pseudonym, as do many of the other actual scammers in the cryptocurrency scene.

A key difference between Dash and a typical shit coin is that the Dash developers constantly deliver on their proposals, not 100% of the time, but not too far off. No doubt some ideas which have been proposed in the past have been discarded, but the majority of the most important ones have been delivered. One which you mention is masternode blinding, however, (for the first time) the language used in talking about the next release would have most that follow this Dash thread believing that it will in fact be delivered in the next release, and perhaps a genuine reason to be disappointed if it is not. Of course it all depends if it can be implemented in a way that doesn't compromise the security of the network and the currency. I'm sure we'll see it on testnet at least.

Step 6.
I think it's worth pointing out that step 6 in your post is ridiculous. Whether one likes the name "Superblocks" or not has nothing to do with their function. The claim that 1 person owns over 50% of all masternodes is laughable. Of course it is impossible to establish who owns exactly what percentage of masternodes (unless perhaps all masternode owners - stakeholders in this anonymous cryptocurrency - choose to make that information public and verifiable, which I doubt will happen. 50% is a significantly higher proportion than anything I've seen linked to one entity. And really, it's almost irrelevant anyway. Dash is available to buy on the markets for anyone who is interested and has the money. They can set up their own masternodes/s and reduce the proportion owned by this imaginary 50% behemoth. If they can't afford a full node they can pool their funds with others and use of the many dedicated masternode hosts which are popping up. The fact that part of the block reward is taken away from the miners, is one approach. It may not be the approach a developer who is also an important miner would take, but it appears to be valid one nonetheless, providing for incentivised full nodes and funding of proposals approved by the decentralised voting mechanism.

I noticed you did not directly address the instamine claim.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

I have in the past, as have many others.

That the instamine happened is indisputable. Perhaps what you want is for me to speculate about who got the coins, when they were sold, at what price, who to, who made masternodes with them etc.

Okay so you admit that DRK was instamined?
sr. member
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4 years..yup  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

So you're an old donkey ;-)

Oh now with the insults. =)

Was waiting for that to start...yes I guess I am.

Look at the class this community has to start insulting other users.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

I don't know what is more insulting Monero developers with their gambling site + a game to be one of the most usable currency in the World or Monero haters with their developers attacking other developers who actually created some AMAZING things that made OTHER developers to copy their AMAZING work. hmmm that's a hard one
sr. member
Activity: 447
Merit: 250
People have a read below as it appears there are glaring facts about this coin that need to be made public.

Quote
snipped

This seriously reminds me of CoinHunter A.K.A. RealSolid and his Solidcoin.

The facts from your post already are public, as is the speculation. They probably make up about 1/4 of this entire thread (perhaps a slight exaggeration).

One key difference between eduffield (Evan Duffield) is that is a real, identifiable person, who appears in videos, conferences, on podcasts etc., whereas someone like CoinHunter/RealSolid hides behind a pseudonym, as do many of the other actual scammers in the cryptocurrency scene.

A key difference between Dash and a typical shit coin is that the Dash developers constantly deliver on their proposals, not 100% of the time, but not too far off. No doubt some ideas which have been proposed in the past have been discarded, but the majority of the most important ones have been delivered. One which you mention is masternode blinding, however, (for the first time) the language used in talking about the next release would have most that follow this Dash thread believing that it will in fact be delivered in the next release, and perhaps a genuine reason to be disappointed if it is not. Of course it all depends if it can be implemented in a way that doesn't compromise the security of the network and the currency. I'm sure we'll see it on testnet at least.

Step 6.
I think it's worth pointing out that step 6 in your post is ridiculous. Whether one likes the name "Superblocks" or not has nothing to do with their function. The claim that 1 person owns over 50% of all masternodes is laughable. Of course it is impossible to establish who owns exactly what percentage of masternodes (unless perhaps all masternode owners - stakeholders in this anonymous cryptocurrency - choose to make that information public and verifiable, which I doubt will happen. 50% is a significantly higher proportion than anything I've seen linked to one entity. And really, it's almost irrelevant anyway. Dash is available to buy on the markets for anyone who is interested and has the money. They can set up their own masternodes/s and reduce the proportion owned by this imaginary 50% behemoth. If they can't afford a full node they can pool their funds with others and use of the many dedicated masternode hosts which are popping up. The fact that part of the block reward is taken away from the miners, is one approach. It may not be the approach a developer who is also an important miner would take, but it appears to be valid one nonetheless, providing for incentivised full nodes and funding of proposals approved by the decentralised voting mechanism.

I noticed you did not directly address the instamine claim.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

I have in the past, as have many others.

That the instamine happened is indisputable. Perhaps what you want is for me to speculate about who got the coins, when they were sold, at what price, who to, who made masternodes with them etc.
legendary
Activity: 2492
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LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
Be smart my friend, don't reject the evolution and don't touch the little girl

presumptions presumptions. more insults. Very mature.  Cheesy
legendary
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Smoothie is no troll he's just a Monero hater, it amazes me how they try hard advertising their coin everywhere by attacking other coins with no credibility. Just today I saw how Smooth attacking Vanillacoin developer while he nor the other 29 Monero developers did shit.

Cry*p*to into forums Monero haters are just everywhere!!
 

Smooth, is a blunt guy but he normally speaks his mind  whether it favors his own coins or not, I think he is too strict with his definition of what is fair sometimes, but I have seen him recently moderate his views on many things. He is actually OK.

The Vanilla coin dev has a tendency to get inspiration from other people's work and not giving them credit, that includes the Bitcoin developers  and other things Dash,  Zerotime, node incentive, seriously? No recognition to Evan's work whatsoever, and that seems to be a pattern with that guy.


Our other trolls; Icebreaker is a smart guy, he clearly enjoys trolling and he has been trolling since the beginning of times and not only Dash. So I guess he gets some sort of stress relief from it.

Adam White, is just an immature idiot with borrowed opinions, life will teach him better.


That is my opinion anyway, the rivalry with Monero is silly, crypto is hard enough as it is, I wish they are successful in whatever they do.   Dash will be successful on its own merits and the Dash dev team is not going anywhere we have solid plans for the next 2 years and I am sure Dash will be around for many years to come.





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