ASN is going to the MOON https://bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-ASN 
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1033900.60
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1033900.60
Fuck off with your coin spam.
Topic: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency - page 2296. (Read 9723858 times)
April 22, 2015, 10:54:49 AM
Fuck off with your coin spam.
April 22, 2015, 10:51:49 AM
You should not be able to vote more than once. Just like in the real world. I don't care if you're the biggest whale there is, you shouldn't have more say than anyone else.
I actually understand why you say that. But if you have two MNs, how would you be limited to one vote?
You can't with it being anon and all. It's a flawed concept. Brilliant....but it's off a little.
One MN, one vote. If you're going to have a voting system, that's the best way for something like this.
April 22, 2015, 10:44:19 AM
You should not be able to vote more than once. Just like in the real world. I don't care if you're the biggest whale there is, you shouldn't have more say than anyone else.
I actually understand why you say that. But if you have two MNs, how would you be limited to one vote?
You can't with it being anon and all. It's a flawed concept. Brilliant....but it's off a little.
April 22, 2015, 10:41:47 AM
You should not be able to vote more than once. Just like in the real world. I don't care if you're the biggest whale there is, you shouldn't have more say than anyone else.
I actually understand why you say that. But if you have two MNs, how would you be limited to one vote?
April 22, 2015, 10:38:32 AM
You should not be able to vote more than once. Just like in the real world. I don't care if you're the biggest whale there is, you shouldn't have more say than anyone else.
April 22, 2015, 10:34:29 AM
If you ain't got a MN, you can't vote.
Go get one, or two, or .......
Go get one, or two, or .......
April 22, 2015, 10:31:20 AM
Self-sustainable Decentralized Governance by Blockchain
https://dashtalk.org/threads/self-sustainable-decentralized-governance-by-blockchain.4708/
https://dashtalk.org/threads/self-sustainable-decentralized-governance-by-blockchain.4708/
One more time, Evan & team two steps ahead all crypto world.
Theories, great speeches and white papers are ok (I'm thinking in ethereum), but this the first realistic road map for an application of governance and funding long term in the crypto space.
April 22, 2015, 10:08:20 AM
Guys, who is able to explain me (or point out a doc) where enforcement is explained?
I am discovering few things, correct me:
- A miner can "jump" a payment to a MN if the protocol isn't enforced. So if there is a new protocol and we are below 80% a miner can literally steal money
- MNs are not, literally, forced to upgrade protocol. They will keep getting Dashes
- Some MNs are running extremely old protocols and there are no consequences for them
Am i wrong? Why should I update my daemon (losing money and time in the process) if there is no penalty?
I am discovering few things, correct me:
- A miner can "jump" a payment to a MN if the protocol isn't enforced. So if there is a new protocol and we are below 80% a miner can literally steal money
- MNs are not, literally, forced to upgrade protocol. They will keep getting Dashes
- Some MNs are running extremely old protocols and there are no consequences for them
Am i wrong? Why should I update my daemon (losing money and time in the process) if there is no penalty?
Hi Gi01....theres lots of great information out there on this throughout here and at DAShpay.io. I'm sure someone in our Dev team can compile this info. It's a great question and as a masternode operator, it's something we have discussed at length with some great ideas and solutions. I'll let the Dev team put that together...
April 22, 2015, 10:08:06 AM
Guys, who is able to explain me (or point out a doc) where enforcement is explained?
I am discovering few things, correct me:
- A miner can "jump" a payment to a MN if the protocol isn't enforced. So if there is a new protocol and we are below 80% a miner can literally steal money
- MNs are not, literally, forced to upgrade protocol. They will keep getting Dashes
- Some MNs are running extremely old protocols and there are no consequences for them
Am i wrong? Why should I update my daemon (losing money and time in the process) if there is no penalty?
I am discovering few things, correct me:
- A miner can "jump" a payment to a MN if the protocol isn't enforced. So if there is a new protocol and we are below 80% a miner can literally steal money
- MNs are not, literally, forced to upgrade protocol. They will keep getting Dashes
- Some MNs are running extremely old protocols and there are no consequences for them
Am i wrong? Why should I update my daemon (losing money and time in the process) if there is no penalty?
1) Yes, a miner can skip payments while enforcement is off. Once 80% of the network upgrades and enforcement is turned on, his blocks will be rejected if he attempts this.
2) Nobody is "forced" to upgrade. MNs on the old version continue to get paid for one week. After one week, they stop receiving payments.
3) Those MNs are no longer getting paid.
April 22, 2015, 09:53:00 AM
Guys, who is able to explain me (or point out a doc) where enforcement is explained?
I am discovering few things, correct me:
- A miner can "jump" a payment to a MN if the protocol isn't enforced. So if there is a new protocol and we are below 80% a miner can literally steal money
- MNs are not, literally, forced to upgrade protocol. They will keep getting Dashes
- Some MNs are running extremely old protocols and there are no consequences for them
Am i wrong? Why should I update my daemon (losing money and time in the process) if there is no penalty?
I am discovering few things, correct me:
- A miner can "jump" a payment to a MN if the protocol isn't enforced. So if there is a new protocol and we are below 80% a miner can literally steal money
- MNs are not, literally, forced to upgrade protocol. They will keep getting Dashes
- Some MNs are running extremely old protocols and there are no consequences for them
Am i wrong? Why should I update my daemon (losing money and time in the process) if there is no penalty?
April 22, 2015, 09:52:54 AM
Self-sustainable Decentralized Governance by Blockchain
https://dashtalk.org/threads/self-sustainable-decentralized-governance-by-blockchain.4708/
https://dashtalk.org/threads/self-sustainable-decentralized-governance-by-blockchain.4708/
This looks amazing.
If it can be remotely done justice to in practice it will start to turn this project into a true industrial behemoth.
April 22, 2015, 09:47:20 AM
Self-sustainable Decentralized Governance by Blockchain
https://dashtalk.org/threads/self-sustainable-decentralized-governance-by-blockchain.4708/
https://dashtalk.org/threads/self-sustainable-decentralized-governance-by-blockchain.4708/
Truly inspiring.... Nothing of this calibre exists in other monetary system. Truly visionary and awe inspiring. Thanks Evan.
And that's an understatement! Bump!
Evan has done a hit and run people!
April 22, 2015, 09:44:11 AM
Self-sustainable Decentralized Governance by Blockchain
https://dashtalk.org/threads/self-sustainable-decentralized-governance-by-blockchain.4708/
https://dashtalk.org/threads/self-sustainable-decentralized-governance-by-blockchain.4708/
Truly inspiring.... Nothing of this calibre exists in other monetary system. Truly visionary and awe inspiring. Thanks Evan.
April 22, 2015, 09:33:22 AM
You have got to be kidding me !!
People insult each other, offensiveness is the norm around these, and this gets deleted ?
I smiled at someone's gif making fun of a troll. I even posted a few for fun. None of those get deleted, but this does?
WOW !!
That was a blatant troll post.
stop trolling.
I'll re-post them for posterity, and because I think AdamWhite didn't like them that's why he reported them to moderator..
AdamWhite is a paid troll so no rhythm or reasoning will do anything to stop his FUD campaign. Even if Evan were to come in here and "clear the air" he'd still bring up insta-scam, reference node, i need to help noobs etc. Its best if we all just put it on ignore and move on guys.
The trolls will be moving onto BCN soon anyways.
The trolls will be moving onto BCN soon anyways.
AdamWhite combating Instamine bottle in his garden :
I'm alone, I need your company, forgive me if I'm a dickhead...
EDIT : oups.. Sorry to post this just after so big annoucment from Evan.
April 22, 2015, 09:19:58 AM
Self-sustainable Decentralized Governance by Blockchain
https://dashtalk.org/threads/self-sustainable-decentralized-governance-by-blockchain.4708/
https://dashtalk.org/threads/self-sustainable-decentralized-governance-by-blockchain.4708/
April 22, 2015, 09:15:29 AM
I am new to the topic and despite everything this adam guy was able to bother me
April 22, 2015, 09:04:41 AM
you are dam fast man
lol
i just took it off to switch to this:
(peace brother)
Dash supports
http://www.earthday.org
s/waist/waste/
aiahhhh
fixed the original post
sorry for that
April 22, 2015, 09:03:48 AM
Damn, you can really tell Adam doesn't even really believe what he writes. You can sense his energy draining...
Takes a lot of effort to jump from thread to thread, remembering which puppet goes where.
April 22, 2015, 09:02:32 AM
Regarding the instamine, this thread tells me everything I need to know:
https://dashtalk.org/threads/the-birth-of-darkcoin.162/
a) It was an accident
b) There wasn't even a block explorer yet, so Evan didn't know at the time just how bad it was
The way I look at it is this: what's done is done. The initial coin distribution is far from ideal, but the vast majority of those coins have changed hands many times since the beginning. Remember, in the beginning it was just "Xcoin." There were no really innovative ideas and frankly no reason to believe the coin would ever succeed. It was only much later that the coin was renamed to "Darkcoin" and real work commenced. Ergo, there was no reason for anybody to hold on to the instamine coins, since at the time Xcoin just looked like another shitcoin.
I don't see the instamine as a good thing; infinite divisibility would take care of any problems caused by a lack of whole coins. Masternodes would probably only cost 100 DASH instead of 1000 to set up. Everything would scale accordingly.
I also don't see it as a big deal. The real future of DASH lies with its tech, not with its initial distribution.
https://dashtalk.org/threads/the-birth-of-darkcoin.162/
a) It was an accident
b) There wasn't even a block explorer yet, so Evan didn't know at the time just how bad it was
The way I look at it is this: what's done is done. The initial coin distribution is far from ideal, but the vast majority of those coins have changed hands many times since the beginning. Remember, in the beginning it was just "Xcoin." There were no really innovative ideas and frankly no reason to believe the coin would ever succeed. It was only much later that the coin was renamed to "Darkcoin" and real work commenced. Ergo, there was no reason for anybody to hold on to the instamine coins, since at the time Xcoin just looked like another shitcoin.
I don't see the instamine as a good thing; infinite divisibility would take care of any problems caused by a lack of whole coins. Masternodes would probably only cost 100 DASH instead of 1000 to set up. Everything would scale accordingly.
I also don't see it as a big deal. The real future of DASH lies with its tech, not with its initial distribution.
April 22, 2015, 09:01:03 AM
Damn, you can really tell Adam doesn't even really believe what he writes. You can sense his energy draining...
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