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I think there is no room, for an illegal coin and an "legit privacy" coin.
And experience   shows in IT, when its about privacy/security, there is no split between "legit" and "illlegal" users or services.
E-Mail-Encryption e.g is to 99% done with PGP, by legit and illegal users, there no two solutions.
Disk-Encryption e.g. TrueCrypt is the leading standard software, with 90% market share and its used legit and illegal users, there no two solutions.
There is only dominanting "Dark Net"/"Dark Web" (with an active scene) on the internet, with TOR and not two big ones, one for legit users and one for criminals.

Or just look at IT-security: good guys (IT-Sec consultants) and bad guys (hackers) use the same pen-testing/hacking-tools.
Another example: are Bitcoin-Mixers, which are used users from both "sides".

So for me it's obvious: there will be only one big active privacy coin, with enough users, eco-system and developers.

but why do you think satoshi would use darkcoin before is completely opensource? this would clearly only work after satoshi could have read the code... you cannot ask him to use (promote) a blackbox?

but why do you think satoshi would use darkcoin before is completely opensource? this would clearly only work after satoshi could have read the code... you cannot ask him to use (promote) a blackbox?

Difficult. I wouldn't post a question on that link.. it would seem like a very cheap plug.

But if you can reach out without posting a sooooo... darkcoin? Go for it..

It's pretty simple: If DarkCoin becomes the long term preferred coin for unlawful trades (Drugs, Guns, CP) on the Dark Web. It will be 50x till 300x of the value today.

If it wont, DRK will be worthless, like other failed coins. The project most likely dies or finds  small niche, were it can survive with its own small scene/use cases then.

The project would die, as everybody would be turning to supporting the preffered Dark Web coin. Who knows which coin that will be.

This is not DRK-specific, all anon coins would die or be semi-dead (without the winning one) by then. As it is pretty obvious that there is only room, for one privacy crypto-currency to establish an healthy community and eco-system, so the coin can survive mid-term/long-term.

The #1 coin for illegal trade, will 100% also be the #1 coin for legitimate private crypto-currency usage. Because of network effects for eg.

I wouldn't say worthless. With the amount of scrutiny, tracking, etc going into bitcoin I think every day legitimate users are going to start looking elsewhere. To solutions like DRK. Either way cheap DRK at the moment.

As we near the open source release of Darkcoin's DarkSend, the last action on my list of to-do's that need to be made is for Satoshi to use Darkcoin, preferably by transferring a BTC from a known Satoshi address, or perhaps a message under 'I am not Dorian Nakamoto' post http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/profile/SatoshiNakamoto

That is a tall challenge, and one that would easily fail.

But, I may give it a try. What do you think? Is it worth trying, or would that cause unintended consequences that might create more problems?

It's pretty simple: If DarkCoin becomes the long term preferred coin for illicites trades (Drugs, Guns, CP) on the Dark Web. It will be 50x till 300x of the value today.

If it wont, DRK will be worthless, like other failed coins. The project most likely dies or finds  small niche, were it can survive with its own small scene/use cases then.

The project would die, as everybody would be turning to supporting the preffered Dark Web coin. Who knows which coin that will be.

This is not DRK-specific, all anon coins would die or be semi-dead (without the winning one) by then. As it is pretty obvious that there is only room, for one privacy crypto-currency to establish an healthy community and eco-system, so the coin can survive mid-term/long-term.

The #1 coin for illegale trade, will 100% also be the #1 coin for legitimate private crypto-currency usage. Because of network effects for eg.

It's pretty simple: If DarkCoin becomes the long term preferred coin for illicites trades (Drugs, Guns, CP) on the Dark Web. It will be 50x till 300x of the value today.

If it wont, DRK will be worthless, like other failed coins. The project most likely dies or finds  small niche, were it can survive with its own small scene/use cases then.

The project would die, as everybody would be turning to supporting the preffered Dark Web coin. Who knows which coin that will be.

This is not DRK-specific, all anon coins would die or be semi-dead (without the winning one) by then. As it is pretty obvious that there is only room, for one privacy crypto-currency to establish an healthy community and eco-system, so the coin can survive mid-term/long-term.

The #1 coin for illegale trade, will 100% also be the #1 coin for legitimate private crypto-currency usage. Because of network effects for eg.

This is a point in time where:

* Investors and active supporters are holding
* Potential investors are sitting on the sideline waiting for code release
* Traders are sitting waiting for announcement of RC4 date
* Sellers have sold
* Price pressure is mainly from multi-pools

So, IMO, this is a moment in history where you can't complain about the entry point for Master Nodes.

One to two months ago people were saying Master Nodes were too expensive. Well, there is right this moment a temporary fix for that complaint. When people start saying that again in 2-3 weeks time, I will re-post this:

In the third week in July 2014, right before the unique DRK anon code was released to the world and DRKs were affordable, you should have bought in.  Instead, you decided to wait a little longer. That was your choice. You didn't want to take the risk on the uncertainty. Plenty of others were.

So now, stop fucking complaining about the high price of Darkcoins. There is no advantage to early investors, they were just prepared to use Google for a few hours to take a look at the anon options in the market and the issues around privacy and the lack of it in Bitcoin, Litecoin and many other coins.

These guys looked at the close relationship Darkcoin has with Bitcoin and Litecoin, and how these established coins could be at a disadvantage in some circumstances from their lack of privacy and how easily Darkcoin could be added alongside them to fix privacy issues for those that wanted that reassurance.

Yes there are other anon options, but which can be slotted next to Bitcoin and Litecoin without too much work, that is the question you must ask yourself as the price continues to steadily increase.

What is more than certain is that the high price you are complaining about now will simply continue to increase. If it hurts you to buy now, it will be completely out of your reach next month.

The only person you can blame for the high price of Darkcoin and your inability to afford a MN is you.

now  that is a valid observation and i partially agree... and that is why we as a community recommended that once finished it goes open source.  we all understood the risks of not doing so right from the get go... there would be flack... but Evan was very clear  that he wanted this open sourced... which it will be once completed.  And for this reason... people have the right  to wait till it is to invest.  But remember... by then the pricing will be very  different and what i dont  want to hear is... oh these are the early guys and they made all  the money... because we took the leap of faith.  

Darkcoin has been slowly going down because although its an amazing solution to a problem it is not open sourced. The people who want to use an anonymous crypto currency also want to be 100% sure that they can trust the services. Once all the features of Darkcoin are open sourced then they will be trusted and used. In my opinion it won't go up as much with Rc4 as it will when it becomes open source and everyone wanting a truly anonymous crypto solution will be able to use it trustingly.

Enjoy bagholding this crap, in the meantime I'll be stocking up on some real winners like btc and claok.

This crap darkcoin has been around for 8 months, 4 of witch have been really bad for any holders who got in during those 4 months.

First of all its "short-term investors". I've been invested in BTC since 2012 so I wouldn't consider myself to fall into that category. Second, BTC is not tanked, it's on a upward trend if you look at the big picture but you're so blind you fail to see that.

BTC and LTC are miles ahead of all these alts so to try and compare them to drk or any alt is just crazy. BTC and LTC have massive user adoption, years of history and real world places to spend these coins for years now , not to mention the infrastructure. DRK has none of that. All dark has is 8 months of broken promises, failed anon features and buggy code.

Now maybe if you looked into my post history you would see that I am a huge BTC bull and have been since day one. I would never tell people to dump BTC as I believe it will always remain number one.

This crap darkcoin has been around for 8 months, 4 of witch have been really bad for any holders who got in during those 4 months. It's obvious that one day there will be a need for a truly anon coin but that coin wont be drk and drk will just be a distant memory just like the flappybird coin.

Enjoy bagholding this crap, in the meantime I'll be stocking up on some real winners like btc and claok.

ok Bob.  please answer why is BTC and LTC been down trending since December?  god i hate short  time investors!  so lets play a game Bob,  lets print out all the trade history for BTC for the last 4 years, Bob,  then lets start breaking out pump and dump cycles in BTC as you may call it Bob. Lets do quarterly cycles Bob and use your reasoning.... a new trading for succes by investing in short term  windows... brought to you by Bob... guru of wealth.   And using this path to success  thought process BTC is tanked... i believe its under $595.00 today,  Bob... to remind your short term memory thats less then half what it was trading in December, Bob. So... lets panic and dump BTC because Bobs short term winning strategy says its way down,  right Bob.  

So quick answer Bob why its down,  there is many,  just  like with BTC... do you want to be the guy to tell everyone that BTV will never be worth 1200.00 based on your winning strategy?  Bob?