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Quote from: PoolMingo on May 31, 2014, 07:29:50 PM

MingoPool is a scam!

Search the 365coin thread for "mingopool", TONS of complaints. He stole 0.38 365 from me. On the day I discovered it that amount was worth USD$352 ! Other complaints of him using miners credentials on other pools and changing the payout address. Stupid to reuse credentials, but still NOT COOL! It's amazing the pool ops can screw over the community and continue operating under the same name.

From his site: "We recompiled the cpu and gpu miners with a few fixes for our stratum. They will improve your hashrate 5% ~ 30% depending your hardware." How much do want to bet that if you run his binary next to your wallet that your coins will mysteriously go missing.

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Quote from: Ozziecoin on June 01, 2014, 07:31:05 PM

I think if US govt had QCs the other govts will find out.

Other governments weren't even able to tell they were being spied by the NSA until Snowden came out. And that's the easy stuff which they should be able to pick up.

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I think if US govt had QCs the other govts will find out.

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Quote from: r4vani on June 01, 2014, 07:11:08 PM

The characters are very interesting and somewhat distant reality tells But still you BTC believe and trade DRK/BTC and you have BTC Wallet In your Sing :p

We don't know if it's distant. They could have quantum computers for something like 10 years and we wouldn't know it because they aren't telling us.

Withholding your capabilities represents a strategic advantage over your opponents. QCs can break military-grade encryption. It's highly unlikely a country would say "ok, we can make our opponents encryption redundant" because then they would force them into upgrading. It's better to let them sleep. That's precisely why I can't base my money on the QC-dependency / "ass-umption". Technologies with military applications have been known to be withheld for over 10 years. Imagine this happening with disruptive technologies for society at large (economic systems, banks etc) such as QCs...

As long as I don't have the option, BTC and DRK are both crackable. If I have the option I can "diversify" my assets towards DRK to a larger degree.

A BTC holder of million USDs would likely want some of them to go to a Quantum-resistant coin, just in case.

I can also see that working in terms of news. When news go out regarding quantum advancements and prototype quantum computers being trialed in labs, Bitcoin will be crashing and Darkcoin will be gaining. So it's also a financial hedge for day-to-day news.

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Quote from: stealth923 on June 01, 2014, 07:07:34 PM

Anyone want to make a guess on when they make a formal announcement.

I have no doubts anymore - its definitely on bitfinex - just when.

I'd be surprised to see it there before the Masternode fix is in and everything is confirmed to be working properly, so late June would be my guess.

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Quote from: AlexGR on June 01, 2014, 06:57:52 PM

Quote from: coins101 on June 01, 2014, 06:47:47 PM

Good idea.

Darkcoin needs a bout of Chaos Theory thrown into the mix-ing

The prospect of having my wallet go to zero because some inventor, government, private lab etc has a QC and I erroneously "ass-umed" they hadn't, is from the stuff that nightmares are made of. This is not a market where you can expect the others to show you their playing cards. It's cryptography. Each one is hiding their cards unless they have an incentive.

I'm sure if an inventor or private lab found something, they'd get tons of money by the government to acquire the tech and keep it under wraps. It's stupid to expect it will go public and then I'll have to react to the news. If it's in the news it's game over.

Quantum resistant will sound quite innovative for marketing too. People will be like "what? Bitcoin ISN'T quantum resistant? WTF? Where am I trusting my money? Let me buy more DRKs" Tongue

Yeah, I want to hear those fuckers say "Dark = scam" after that Tongue

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"Quantum resistant will sound quite innovative for marketing too. People will be like "what? Bitcoin ISN'T quantum resistant? WTF? Where am I trusting my money? Let me buy more DRKs""

The characters are very interesting and somewhat distant reality tells But still you BTC believe and trade DRK/BTC and you have BTC Wallet In your Sing :p

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Quote from: coins101 on June 01, 2014, 07:00:23 PM

Not sure if XC is having fork issues...in case anyone gets the urge, please no soft, hard or indirect trolling their thread.

Of course not, wouldnt lower myself to their level when we had forking issues

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Quote from: roede94105 on June 01, 2014, 02:30:52 PM

Quote from: eltito on June 01, 2014, 02:14:31 PM

Quote from: ddirt on June 01, 2014, 02:03:10 PM

Quote from: eltito on June 01, 2014, 12:04:56 PM

Quote from: BTC_MINER6 on June 01, 2014, 09:20:02 AM

Quote from: ?? on ??

http://www.reddit.com/r/DRKCoin/comments/2712e1/hard_evidence_on_darkcoin_coming_to_bitfinex/

Just rumours?

yes it is rumours i have seen there drk is not added there.

Taken about 2 minutes ago.

This a photoshop edit? I dont see it on bitfinex now.

It's gone now. The same thing happened last time they did this - word got out and they removed all the DRK references.

so far, every time it reappears it's more and more visible, hopefully testing!

Anyone want to make a guess on when they make a formal announcement.

I have no doubts anymore - its definitely on bitfinex - just when.

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Not sure if XC is having fork issues...in case anyone gets the urge, please no soft, hard or indirect trolling their thread.

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Quote from: coins101 on June 01, 2014, 06:47:47 PM

Good idea.

Darkcoin needs a bout of Chaos Theory thrown into the mix-ing

The prospect of having my wallet go to zero because some inventor, government, private lab etc has a QC and I erroneously "ass-umed" they hadn't, is from the stuff that nightmares are made of. This is not a market where you can expect the others to show you their playing cards. It's cryptography. Each one is hiding their cards unless they have an incentive.

I'm sure if an inventor or private lab found something, they'd get tons of money by the government to acquire the tech and keep it under wraps. It's stupid to expect it will go public and then I'll have to react to the news. If it's in the news it's game over.

Quantum resistant will sound quite innovative for marketing too. People will be like "what? Bitcoin ISN'T quantum resistant? WTF? Where am I trusting my money? Let me buy more DRKs" Tongue

Yeah, I want to hear those fuckers say "Dark = scam" after that Tongue

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DASH is the future of crypto payments!

be ready because 10k diff will be funny at the end of this month

10k??? haha I wish it could come again some will say...all these ltc mining farm will point @ drk...just look...we are going GREAT !!!
2 0 1 4 remember this year. It's the year of crypto, it's the year of DARKCOIN !!!

EDIT: @AlexGR...I like this quantum idea sound very freaky cool and will bring more attention of bigger players.

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Quote from: AlexGR on June 01, 2014, 06:43:02 PM

To eduffield:

I was reading about Bitcoin

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https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Myths#Quantum_computers_would_break_Bitcoin.27s_security

Quantum computers would break Bitcoin's security
While ECDSA is indeed not secure under quantum computing, quantum computers don't yet exist and probably won't for a while. The DWAVE system often written about in the press is, even if all their claims are true, not a quantum computer of a kind that could be used for cryptography. Bitcoin's security, when used properly with a new address on each transaction, depends on more than just ECDSA: Cryptographic hashes are much stronger than ECDSA under QC. Bitcoin's security was designed to be upgraded in a forward compatible way and could be upgraded if this were considered an imminent threat.

...and I find it unsettling that it is basing its security in the assumption of something like "ok, nobody has a quantum computer yet, so we are safe". If a government has a quantum computer to break cryptography, why would they even disclose it? You can't wait for these things to happen and then upgrade - you must be prepared. It is also well known that "assumption is the mother of all fuckups".

Would it be possible to consult with some cryptography-experts (Anonymint might also be available to offer some feedback) and make Darkcoin => "First Quantum Resistant" too, being more futureproof than even Bitcoin itself, and then forcing Bitcoin to follow the trend? That would be an epic win...

BTW, Bytecoin & clones aren't Quantum resistant.

My 2 duffs.

Good idea.

Darkcoin needs a bout of Chaos Theory thrown into the mix-ing

edit - first NSA Resistant Coin... Cool

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Quote from: toknormal on June 01, 2014, 06:38:45 PM

Quote from: r4vani on June 01, 2014, 06:33:01 PM

Drk/btc have very tolerance Cheesy Our country is in the morning hours 3.58 AM but But I'm not sleeping, even after a hard day at GYM Cheesy I understand the sensitivity of the novel, but I'm a patient man and I'll just wait and look chart for Hunting at the right time and buy more Smiley

Well hold your fire right now.

The optimal moment still looks about an hour away I'd say so you might lose a bit more sleep than you thought Wink

I have not allowed myself one moment of distraction during the last days: always with my eyes on the charts Wink

Today a friend of mine came to my house and as we were talking he said that I am "stupid to be wasting money with these computer generated tulips" lol.. I just laughed at him as he said that I'd better buy euros or USDollars \o/ - "that would be a waste of money", I told him!!

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To eduffield:

I was reading about Bitcoin

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https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Myths#Quantum_computers_would_break_Bitcoin.27s_security

Quantum computers would break Bitcoin's security
While ECDSA is indeed not secure under quantum computing, quantum computers don't yet exist and probably won't for a while. The DWAVE system often written about in the press is, even if all their claims are true, not a quantum computer of a kind that could be used for cryptography. Bitcoin's security, when used properly with a new address on each transaction, depends on more than just ECDSA: Cryptographic hashes are much stronger than ECDSA under QC. Bitcoin's security was designed to be upgraded in a forward compatible way and could be upgraded if this were considered an imminent threat.

...and I find it unsettling that it is basing its security in the assumption of something like "ok, nobody has a quantum computer yet, so we are safe". If a government has a quantum computer to break cryptography, why would they even disclose it? You can't wait for these things to happen and then upgrade - you must be prepared. It is also well known that "assumption is the mother of all fuckups".

Would it be possible to consult with some cryptography-experts (Anonymint might also be available to offer some feedback) and make Darkcoin => "First Quantum Resistant" too, being more futureproof than even Bitcoin itself, and then forcing Bitcoin to follow the trend? That would be an epic win...

BTW, Bytecoin & clones aren't Quantum resistant.

My 2 duffs.

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Quote from: r4vani on June 01, 2014, 06:33:01 PM

Drk/btc have very tolerance Cheesy Our country is in the morning hours 3.58 AM but But I'm not sleeping, even after a hard day at GYM Cheesy I understand the sensitivity of the novel, but I'm a patient man and I'll just wait and look chart for Hunting at the right time and buy more Smiley

Well hold your fire right now.

The optimal moment still looks about an hour away I'd say so you might lose a bit more sleep than you thought Wink

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Quote from: r4vani on June 01, 2014, 06:33:01 PM

Quote from: toknormal on June 01, 2014, 06:18:04 PM

Quote from: r4vani on June 01, 2014, 05:58:49 PM

I just agree with your opinion, I was not programming to Cheesy

Just look at the chart,And wait to buy more

If you just want to buy more, you should get a chance in about half an hour to an hour as we're just about to enter a small correction for the last rise.

Looks like it might go back to just above the .02 for a while (or even the late 19's if your lucky).

Drk/btc have very tolerance Cheesy

Our country is in the morning hours 3.58 AM but But I'm not sleeping, even after a hard day at GYM Cheesy

I understand the sensitivity of the novel, but I'm a patient man and I'll just wait and look chart for Hunting at the right time and buy more

Me Too!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqL77G2x61E Grin

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Quote from: toknormal on June 01, 2014, 06:18:04 PM

Quote from: r4vani on June 01, 2014, 05:58:49 PM

I just agree with your opinion, I was not programming to Cheesy

Just look at the chart,And wait to buy more

If you just want to buy more, you should get a chance in about half an hour to an hour as we're just about to enter a small correction for the last rise.

Looks like it might go back to just above the .02 for a while (or even the late 19's if your lucky).

Drk/btc have very tolerance Cheesy

Our country is in the morning hours 3.58 AM but But I'm not sleeping, even after a hard day at GYM Cheesy

I understand the sensitivity of the novel, but I'm a patient man and I'll just wait and look chart for Hunting at the right time and buy more

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Ok, stocked up again, ready for next upswing.

Edit: Snagged at 0.0206 along with that whale.

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Quote from: toknormal on June 01, 2014, 06:18:04 PM

Quote from: r4vani on June 01, 2014, 05:58:49 PM

I just agree with your opinion, I was not programming to Cheesy

Just look at the chart,And wait to buy more

If you just want to buy more, you should get a chance in about half an hour to an hour as we're just about to enter a small correction for the last rise.

Looks like it might go back to just above the .02 for a while (or even the late 19's if your lucky).

Looks like you were bang on! Lips sealed

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Quote from: r4vani on June 01, 2014, 05:58:49 PM

I just agree with your opinion, I was not programming to Cheesy

Just look at the chart,And wait to buy more

If you just want to buy more, you should get a chance in about half an hour to an hour as we're just about to enter a small correction for the last rise.

Looks like it might go back to just above the .02 for a while (or even the late 19's if your lucky).

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