Topic: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency - page 6021. (Read 9723858 times)
May 12, 2014, 12:10:42 PM
Is Offical Pool Dead? Or under Ddos?
May 12, 2014, 12:10:37 PM
and ac2 is added to the ever growing ignore list. Don't feed the troll
How do you feel about that?
I hope that Evan (and the rest of the intelligent team) was the one who got the most coins since he deserves to be able to live of this coin.
He gave most of them away. CHAOSiTEC, whom I also miss terribly, has only 2% of what he mined. He gave away over 18,000 coins. All because they believed in the coin AND because they KNEW an isolated coin, that was in the hands of a few has no VALUE! It's called enlightened self interest. So unless you believe big coin holders from the "instamine" want to hurt themselves, or the coin, you couldn't believe they still had all that coin. And it seems, from people studying the blockchain, that nobody held on to the early coins like that. And I believe that most of the large wallet holders have been identified as exchanges, even which exchange.
I'm so sick of this subject but feel I have to explain each time these FUD spreaders come in, so that newbs have the facts, the WHOLE facts, not the glossy, "everyone is a crook" scandalous facts. https://darkcointalk.org/threads/the-birth-of-darkcoin.162/
Duffield is the best dev in altcoin world, bar none - period. But here's where the commenter and others have a bit of a point regarding the early-stage instamining, and don't dismiss this as FUD.
It seems to take an inordinately huge, inordinately relentless avalanche of good news over an inordinately huge amount of time to get DRK coin's price to move upward. Yet, the slightest imperfection, the slightest hiccupt, like a minor delay from a developer who I would have thought had established street cred from delivering (eventually), leads to this?
Why is DRK so hard to push upward and so quick to fall (or worse, get stuck in long spells of protracted stagnation).
There's a cloud over this coin that has nothing to do with Evan's great work and all the innovation and features, and I don't think it can be dismissed. Maybe this instamining is it - I don't know. But the kind of good news and work put into this coin should've made it perform like BlackCoin in its heyday. Why does it continue to struggle like this (from the perspective of those of us who aren't early adopters).
Heaven forbid anything happen to Evan, and this coin would appear to be toast.
well the only reason it is being dismissed is because it has been cleared out at least four times throughout the thread already.
May 12, 2014, 12:10:02 PM
Buy Orders
PRICE (BTC) DRK BTC
0.00560000 23908.64322784 133.88840207
PRICE (BTC) DRK BTC
0.00560000 23908.64322784 133.88840207
May 12, 2014, 12:09:42 PM
Haha, I was about to post this, almost word for word. eduffield taking the time to get it right, plus news of I2P and ring sigs should, in a rational market, have sent the price UP. As it is, just a few of the stupider monkeys getting shaken out of the tree, so it's all good.
No one is getting "shaken out". Shaken out happens when people give up on something. This is all Daytrading 102. Some really smart people are improving their positions. It will not work out for everyone, but having sizable BTC positions has a significant advantage in the altcoin world. It is not all about BTC->Fiat->BTC.
If you're winning then you're a clever monkey, but you're winning at the expense of the less clever monkeys. Practically, day trading is a zero sum game, and the stupid monkeys (the majority) lose.
About fiat I don't really care, except that what fiat I have I'm converting to tangible commodities. Beans, bullets and bandages, baby.
May 12, 2014, 12:05:46 PM
Not reachable...
Sites were DDOS'd, we are working on getting them back up now.
May 12, 2014, 12:05:37 PM
I bought around 7k from 56 down to 50. Didn't end up getting the exact bottom, but very content with the panic sellers selling me coins.
May 12, 2014, 12:05:17 PM
I haven`t read every post of "ymer", but I like to read bearish opinions as well. You, ymer, could just add a little bit of deeper information to your thoughts. When you said 0,006 did not make sense, you did not know about the delay. So now 0,0047 makes no sense either. Fine, but why?
I`m curious to hear solid fundamental arguments.
(If other people are 100% sure he is just trolling, forgive me feeding him)
I`m curious to hear solid fundamental arguments.
(If other people are 100% sure he is just trolling, forgive me feeding him)
Troll or not, you can safely ignore anyone stating that a given price "doesn't make sense". It's a meaningless statement. Any price makes sense inasmuch as it's a deterministic product of market dynamics. We could say that the current price is higher or lower than our estimate of what the hive-mind thinks the coin is worth right now, meaning we could expect a correction. But that's about as strong a statement as we can make.
If the market dynamics were such that Darkcoin was trading around 0.01 for the past month, that price would make exactly as much sense as the actual current price as we see it. It's worth precisely what it's traded at.
People like to have nice neat reasons for changes in price, so they over-interpret the data and draw spurious causative links. Most short-term movements are just day traders playing the game. You can assign whatever story you like to explain those movements, and confirmation bias will make you think the story is true. You'll do better as a trader if you stop asking, "why is the price going up/down", and recognising that the market is largely chaotic.
It price doesn't make sense!
It should be way higher
May 12, 2014, 12:03:08 PM
Back @ 0.006, happy to report 1 more masternode caught @ 0.005
was that you that flashed the market?
May 12, 2014, 11:58:57 AM
Back @ 0.006, happy to report 1 more masternode caught @ 0.005
May 12, 2014, 11:54:29 AM
dark.hashrate.eu - 0% Prop stable small pool. Small pool no DDos. Wallet ready for the fork. 10Gbit connectivity ready for DDos.
May 12, 2014, 11:51:26 AM
May 12, 2014, 11:51:07 AM
and ac2 is added to the ever growing ignore list. Don't feed the troll
How do you feel about that?
I hope that Evan (and the rest of the intelligent team) was the one who got the most coins since he deserves to be able to live of this coin.
He gave most of them away. CHAOSiTEC, whom I also miss terribly, has only 2% of what he mined. He gave away over 18,000 coins. All because they believed in the coin AND because they KNEW an isolated coin, that was in the hands of a few has no VALUE! It's called enlightened self interest. So unless you believe big coin holders from the "instamine" want to hurt themselves, or the coin, you couldn't believe they still had all that coin. And it seems, from people studying the blockchain, that nobody held on to the early coins like that. And I believe that most of the large wallet holders have been identified as exchanges, even which exchange.
I'm so sick of this subject but feel I have to explain each time these FUD spreaders come in, so that newbs have the facts, the WHOLE facts, not the glossy, "everyone is a crook" scandalous facts. https://darkcointalk.org/threads/the-birth-of-darkcoin.162/
Duffield is the best dev in altcoin world, bar none - period. But here's where the commenter and others have a bit of a point regarding the early-stage instamining, and don't dismiss this as FUD.
It seems to take an inordinately huge, inordinately relentless avalanche of good news over an inordinately huge amount of time to get DRK coin's price to move upward. Yet, the slightest imperfection, the slightest hiccupt, like a minor delay from a developer who I would have thought had established street cred from delivering (eventually), leads to this?
Why is DRK so hard to push upward and so quick to fall (or worse, get stuck in long spells of protracted stagnation).
There's a cloud over this coin that has nothing to do with Evan's great work and all the innovation and features, and I don't think it can be dismissed. Maybe this instamining is it - I don't know. But the kind of good news and work put into this coin should've made it perform like BlackCoin in its heyday. Why does it continue to struggle like this (from the perspective of those of us who aren't early adopters).
Heaven forbid anything happen to Evan, and this coin would appear to be toast.
May 12, 2014, 11:48:36 AM
Ring signatures are going to be implemented in V2. I will begin development immediately after I opensource V1.
How do we compete against clones? Can they clone me? I work on this full time. In fact, I've only been at it four months. So far I've implemented DarkSend + X11 + DGW + Masternode payments. Plus, I've agreed to work on this project till at least Jan 2016 full time. So who on earth would invest in a clone?
So now I have three major developments:
Master Nodes.
I2P.
Ring signatures.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/darkcoin-unofficial-strategic-development-of-ecash-579976
Did I miss anything that should be included?
Good decision to implement ring signatures. Monero based off the cryptonotes protocol already uses ring signatures.
Edit:
I support both coins. Competition is good.
May 12, 2014, 11:46:45 AM
bad things happen.
things get delayed.
things get delayed.
It's funny how people have different perspectives on this.
I'm a software developer.
When I heard he was delaying the launch I thought GOOD ONE !
It was too good to be true that a beta test go off like clockwork with no problems and issues to be gone back to think about and recode. It was sounding to start a bit unreal.
But now that this delay has been announced I feel comfortable again that there's something real going on here. Ironically that's put me back in the market for more coin. Stuck an order in at 48 and got it filled at the bottom end of the dump.
In addition to that, from a technical perspective (as opposed to f*cking price which is meaningless at this stage in a project like this) you've got:
[1] - the developer being transparent and having the bottle to come on here un-anonymously and participate in often adversarial exchanges
[2] - the fact that they are full-time employed by this project
[3] - the fact that he's announced (albeit informally) that ring signatures are on the roadmap
This coin's got it all for me, at least as far as any crypto project could have at this stage in the game. I don't see what else they could be doing.
Haha, I was about to post this, almost word for word. eduffield taking the time to get it right, plus news of I2P and ring sigs should, in a rational market, have sent the price UP. As it is, just a few of the stupider monkeys getting shaken out of the tree, so it's all good.
Because DRK coin is worth more. I mine and believe that we gonna reach LTC price. Till the end of the month, all GPU farms will switch to DRK or x11 ( less power usage, less heat ), because LTC is not profitable anymore when all those ASIC machines pop up on the market. I would say Buy DRK now or regret later
Have fun !!! May 12, 2014, 11:43:29 AM
bad things happen.
things get delayed.
things get delayed.
It's funny how people have different perspectives on this.
I'm a software developer.
When I heard he was delaying the launch I thought GOOD ONE !
It was too good to be true that a beta test go off like clockwork with no problems and issues to be gone back to think about and recode. It was sounding to start a bit unreal.
But now that this delay has been announced I feel comfortable again that there's something real going on here. Ironically that's put me back in the market for more coin. Stuck an order in at 48 and got it filled at the bottom end of the dump.
In addition to that, from a technical perspective (as opposed to f*cking price which is meaningless at this stage in a project like this) you've got:
[1] - the developer being transparent and having the bottle to come on here un-anonymously and participate in often adversarial exchanges
[2] - the fact that they are full-time employed by this project
[3] - the fact that he's announced (albeit informally) that ring signatures are on the roadmap
This coin's got it all for me, at least as far as any crypto project could have at this stage in the game. I don't see what else they could be doing.
May 12, 2014, 11:42:56 AM
So that was an official flash crash - price down >10%, then back-up.
It happened shortly after Evan notified of the extended testing and forking.
That means....one of you gits has just flashed the market and bought a truck load of DRK back.
Come on....own up...whose the rich bastard with a big smile on their face?
It happened shortly after Evan notified of the extended testing and forking.
That means....one of you gits has just flashed the market and bought a truck load of DRK back.
Come on....own up...whose the rich bastard with a big smile on their face?
May 12, 2014, 11:42:44 AM
Haha, I was about to post this, almost word for word. eduffield taking the time to get it right, plus news of I2P and ring sigs should, in a rational market, have sent the price UP. As it is, just a few of the stupider monkeys getting shaken out of the tree, so it's all good.
No one is getting "shaken out". Shaken out happens when people give up on something. This is all Daytrading 102. Some really smart people are improving their positions. It will not work out for everyone, but having sizable BTC positions has a significant advantage in the altcoin world. It is not all about BTC->Fiat->BTC.
May 12, 2014, 11:41:36 AM
Not running, you can test www.darkcoin.io
May 12, 2014, 11:41:13 AM
Yes. At least for me it's not reachable.
May 12, 2014, 11:40:55 AM
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