Topic: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency - page 6028. (Read 9723858 times)

Since when has common sense been a trait of the masses. I'm concerned that Evan might underestimate the power of stupid people in majority groups...

Ever been to The Capital Building in Washington DC, USA?

DRK is the smart choice, but that doesn't mean a damn thing in the world of cryptocurrencies... ;-)

darkcoin.io seems down atm

That is HUGE!! Please also consider IP obfuscation in some release.

Do not give in to these calls for open source. AnonyMint made a great post on the Monero thread about all of this open sourcing. Let there be a big merchant adoption phase first

There should be a smart copy pasta that answers all these trolls typical grievances that are brought up.
Just so new bystanders can realise its all been dealt with before.

I agree with half of this.

Changes have to be made. FUNDAMENTAL functionality changes have to be made up front and left alone. What if Windows suddenly stopped being an OS altogether and was nothing but an Instant Messenger client with no bootloader and networking support required a separate piece of software?

Changes, yes. But sweeping changes that re-define the whole damn thing, you can't do that to a cryptocoin and expect it to survive.

Yes, it has to stay decentralized, but you can't have decentralization at the expense of The Bomb. With diff already bottoming out, I fear that may be what we've got... And a fundamental down-change to diff calc will result in what is essentially orders of magnitude of inflation.

It's damn near impossible to predict, but at the same time, you better get it right because if you change it 1 or 3 years down the road... It becomes a completely different coin in one line of code.

No, he's a troll since day 1. He started to play the role of a supporter after being called out 2 days ago. Probably crytohunter or IlovAnocoin (or something like that)  

It's testnet and fewer NM.


block 4804 --> 500
block 4804 + 5(or 6 not sure) --> 450 ( 4804 has votes, so should be winner).

RC2 mainnet has votes on every block. So no winner behavior might not happen.

LoL !!

Hit the nail on the head. People are more valuable than technology in this business. One's replaceable, the other isn't 

Ring signatures are going to be implemented in V2. I will begin development immediately after I opensource V1.

How do we compete against clones? Can they clone me? I work on this full time. In fact, I've only been at it four months. So far I've implemented DarkSend + X11 + DGW + Masternode payments. Plus, I've agreed to work on this project till at least Jan 2016 full time. So who on earth would invest in a clone?

I think Evan and the team deserve all the money they get even if they are still holding the instamine which I'm sure there not but if so they deserve it great team loving the coin . They should be minted as they are very clever devs.  Just my thoughts

Don't stop before sharing the correct way...

I seem to remember this troll was a Darkcoin supporter not that long ago.

I guess he bought some, thought he could day trade and lost money when shorts didn't go so well. It happens. Best thing to do is not dwell on the loss and just minimise the loss - get back in and over the next few weeks the loss will become a profit.

I do like how some of these trolls spend so much of their time here. If they really thought DRK had no future, they wouldn't spend so much of the precious time on this planet trying to pull it down.

Thank you for finding the words for me.

BTC is still here. It may not be perfect in execution, but it's still solid in function.

Start changing it around and the coin dies. This is the foundation upon which all other qualities rest.

I'm not afraid to "be mean" when it's true. Pain is an excellent teacher, but better still, it shows you the content of someone's character. Would they rather "be offended" or step up and accept it and do something about it?

Hit someone with the ugly truth and see what they do with it. Then you'll know if that person is worth a damn, or just another wad of flesh wasting your oxygen...

If it's patched, but why I am seeing this result?
I'm running the latest source from github.

You mean this situation was not handled correctly before, but patched and current no winner behavior is normal?
Sorry if I understood wrong.

I love all anonymous coins and I have been watching some of the constant FUD that one or two people are doing to Darkcoin.

Cryptohunter, who can be found on the first page of this coin launch! Imagine if you knew how to operate on Linux.

r0ach, is a coin cloner too according to some and is most likely ILuvAnoncoin and ac2 among many other userids.

reRaise who is from quarkcoin team which for some reason is very pissed off at darkcoin.

ymer  who is not very good at trolling and is one of the better laughing stock compared to others.


DRK community doesn't handle FUD correctly, the way BTC/LTC/DOGE etc handle even though the community has been here for 4-5 months.

That's not the point ( at least as far as investing goes).

There will likely be plenty of 'anonymous' coins over the next few years deploying various technologies. The 'best' technology isn't necessarily the most valued in market terms. You only need to look at the current market to see that.

Bitcoin, Litecoin, Peercoin and the like all have successors which improved on their technological approach. However none of their valuations were ever dented once they acquired the pole position in their 'class'. One of reasons for that is that although technological improvements are progress 'under the bonnet', the end user doesn't notice a blind bit of difference. There are also other reasons - basically investment priorities that rank higher that technical prowess as long as the technical integrity of the coin meets at least a minimum level.

For me, it's not important that the coin have 'ultra' opaque characteristics that defy even the NSA. I value this technology for commercial reasons. i.e. for making easy, anonymous transactions that are not transparent to commercial competitors for whom that information might be valuable.

Not saying that the coins you mention aren't interesting, but their emergence is just another horse in the race. It takes a long time and a lot of hard work and co-operative participation to get things right AND make progress in the market at the same time.

Darkcoin is now at a relatively advanced stage in that process. Those other coins are not. Thats why it's having its valuation revised. The underlying technology is just a factor - one that will have some but limited say in the ultimate outcome.

I ask this troll to think a little more. DRK's privacy solution is the best solution because it creates a real-world paradoxical ruleset and forces Proof of Service, not Proof of Stake. Then, combines it with Proof of Work, which allows for some very awesome future things that have not been mentioned, but if you have half a brain, you can figure out what they are... If you understand cryptocurrencies, not just a pump and dump kiddie troll, you know where this is heading already... I mention the future possibilities as suggestions, but I know they're already being considered and at the root of why masternodes were created. I understand what is going on so I can see what Evan has planned. He's got a plan and it's pretty damn cool. It's an extension of the same paradoxical rulesets that exist in BitCoin, it just goes further in fixing some of the flaws that the BitCoin experiment has shown us.

I saw it back in February. I'm not even holding BTC anymore. I've spent my life 15 years ahead of the curve, this is no different. If you can't figure it out, apply yourself instead of troll, it only makes you look stupid.

If you don't understand how to read the writing on the wall, then ac2's arguments make sense. That's why they make sense to him; he doesn't understand.

My only concern is that DGW3 goes too far. Besides that, DRK is BitCoin 2.0 in my mind. Other coins pushing the same sales pitch don't have the real world checks and balances in their "perfect" technological solutions. Being a bit "hackish" is the whole damn point of why the DRK way is the bast way. It's not just mining that gets an incentive... a long-term viable cryptocoin needs to provide incentive for other services. Hosting of full blockchain and anonymity are just two...

You can't even fit the BTC blockchain onto most mobile devices. You have to have a trusted node... Where's the motivation? Why should someone do it? Where's the proof of trust in that node? Nodes are dropping like flies on the BTC network. The huge blockchain is centralizing among those willing to do it for free...

Code gets updated all the time. Everywhere, for everything. Nothing bad happens, in fact (usually) the opposite.

Implement a wallet autoupdate feature, and 99% of users wont even notice. Miners might have to download a new version of sgminer or whatever, but I don't see them complaining about it if it defeats ASICs and keeps them in business.

Nobody gets jacked around at all, except the ASIC developers, who've just wasted $millions.

DRK has to remain decentralised. What the eventual approach to that might be I don't know, but changing some code is nothing to be frightened of. A dev that was afraid to make changes would be something to worry about.

Hey thats fine, no one likes trolls.  Just pointing out its silly to say 'well bitcoin or litcoin or x-coin did it so its ok'.   Different times.  

I like darkcoin, bought some early due to the tech, wish I hadn't of dumped 50% at 320k!