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coins101

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Quote from: SquaPac on April 15, 2014, 10:17:36 AM

Quote from: coins101 on March 15, 2014, 06:45:50 AM

~~1. DarkGravityWave release~~
2. Mutlipool which pays out in Darkcoin
3. Come out of DarkSend beta
4. Hackfest to try and break Darksend (zerocash will probably lead the charge)
5. Dark Wallet to confirm they are officially giving up
6. GMaxwell to acknowledge DarkSend is looking pretty close to e-cash vs. Bitcoin
7. Satoshi to move some $100m of coins through DarkSend, maybe just $1 would do it
8. Media to go to town on rights and wrongs of DarkCoin, privacy, e-cash, etc.

Would it be possible to get a timeframe on some of the projects that are being worked on currently so the community can be more up to date and involved?

That's not an official workflow.

It was my first stab at what was needed to reach a valuation of $1bn by the end of this year.

Quote from: eduffield on March 26, 2014, 10:14:33 AM

Quote from: jiosefjd on March 26, 2014, 09:51:48 AM

Is there an estimated date on DarkSend being out of beta and a "finished" product?

So here's the plan for development:

1.) Beta V4, V5... - Large changes that require everyone to upgrade to use DarkSend
2.) Beyond this point, DarkSend is ready for real use and will be available in binary form (closed source still)
3.) Release Candidates - RC1, RC2, etc - I'll be taking bug reports, but these are smaller changes and none of them should require everyone to update
4.) First stable release - I think this stage should also be closed source until we're sure everything is perfect
5.) Public audits, where the closed source is shared with someone who people trust to review DarkSend (I'm not sure who that would be yet)
6.) After all audits pass and we have a real product, opensource

Currently we're in Beta V3, I'm working on V4 right now. I'm fighting some bugs then I'll do another release

SquaPac

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Quote from: coins101 on March 15, 2014, 06:45:50 AM

~~1. DarkGravityWave release~~
2. Mutlipool which pays out in Darkcoin
3. Come out of DarkSend beta
4. Hackfest to try and break Darksend (zerocash will probably lead the charge)
5. Dark Wallet to confirm they are officially giving up
6. GMaxwell to acknowledge DarkSend is looking pretty close to e-cash vs. Bitcoin
7. Satoshi to move some $100m of coins through DarkSend, maybe just $1 would do it
8. Media to go to town on rights and wrongs of DarkCoin, privacy, e-cash, etc.

Would it be possible to get a timeframe on some of the projects that are being worked on currently so the community can be more up to date and involved?

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Quote from: coins101 on April 15, 2014, 08:17:57 AM

Quote from: TanteStefana on April 14, 2014, 07:51:47 PM

Quote from: coins101 on April 14, 2014, 07:29:38 PM

Is there a way to include an encrypted name and address field with a DarkSend transaction?

It may sound like a stupid question, but retail merchants are backing off from bitcoin because it is anonymous (I know it's not).

So you can walk into a gun shop in the USA and pay cash for the biggest gun they sell. You could have just got that cash from selling crack at the local school gate.

Cash is not seen as a problem, provided you have some ID.

Try and buy M&Ms on Amazon with Bitcoin and there is no chance in hell. That is seen is an evil money laundering no-no.

Maybe what retailers might prefer is a Darkcoin payment that includes the name and address, which matches the name and address on their account. How about a name and address that cross-checks to voter registration or a driving licence.

Where is the risk to them at this point? The whole world can't see the transaction, but the merchant has an audit trail they can show the cops. Job done. Next merchant please sign here.................

As with DarkSend having an opt-out function, adding name and address fields can be an opt-in service - for those that were wondering which bit of anonymous I didn't get.

Let's patent that and give the royalties to the darkcoin holders.

That's in the works (a note field that gets encrypted as part of the transactio), also there shouldn't be any problem for a retailer to accept the coin, it's instant and there can be no chargebacks. The rest is up to them to have a good interface that the purchaser can fill out with all the pertinent information. And buyer beware. There should be no reason in the world a merchant wouldn't accept crypto, other than the volatility of the prices.

Why would a merchant need any of that information? If they're going to sent the item, then that's one thing, but why would they need to know anything else about me?

I'm thinking more automated process for large merchants that do huge volume of transactions.

The process of checking needs to be automated, with as much effort put on the customer as possible. The use of credit cards is accepted because to get one you need to have gone through various hurdles. All the merchants need to worry about is checking the cards are not stolen and they contain sufficient funds.

Something like:

* user enters personal data at the merchants store front
* personal data goes through third party verification process that handles KYC (KYC gets updated by the customer every x period)
* user engages with merchant and provides data for shipping
* user pays
* merchant can automatically cross check someone has done KYC during the payment acceptance process
* Merchant can link transaction to KYC for reporting, if required.
* customer and merchant transact. Goods are dispatched.

The issue about anonymity for this type of opt-in facility is about public display of transactions on a block chain, not about total anonymity, i.e. compared to a normal credit card transaction, the only thing missing is an imprint of the transaction in the block chain that can be daisy-chained to other transactions. A similar relationship would exist with the merchant knowing who the customer is by reference to credit card data. Unlike credit cards, KYC type verification can be like a one time use password

There must be a way to facilitate third party data attachment for verification with Darkcoin being an enabling tool so it doesn't have to get involved with the verification process which means it remains decentralised.

I think you're on to something!

coins101

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Quote from: TanteStefana on April 14, 2014, 07:51:47 PM

Quote from: coins101 on April 14, 2014, 07:29:38 PM

Is there a way to include an encrypted name and address field with a DarkSend transaction?

It may sound like a stupid question, but retail merchants are backing off from bitcoin because it is anonymous (I know it's not).

So you can walk into a gun shop in the USA and pay cash for the biggest gun they sell. You could have just got that cash from selling crack at the local school gate.

Cash is not seen as a problem, provided you have some ID.

Try and buy M&Ms on Amazon with Bitcoin and there is no chance in hell. That is seen is an evil money laundering no-no.

Maybe what retailers might prefer is a Darkcoin payment that includes the name and address, which matches the name and address on their account. How about a name and address that cross-checks to voter registration or a driving licence.

Where is the risk to them at this point? The whole world can't see the transaction, but the merchant has an audit trail they can show the cops. Job done. Next merchant please sign here.................

As with DarkSend having an opt-out function, adding name and address fields can be an opt-in service - for those that were wondering which bit of anonymous I didn't get.

Let's patent that and give the royalties to the darkcoin holders.

That's in the works (a note field that gets encrypted as part of the transactio), also there shouldn't be any problem for a retailer to accept the coin, it's instant and there can be no chargebacks. The rest is up to them to have a good interface that the purchaser can fill out with all the pertinent information. And buyer beware. There should be no reason in the world a merchant wouldn't accept crypto, other than the volatility of the prices.

Why would a merchant need any of that information? If they're going to sent the item, then that's one thing, but why would they need to know anything else about me?

I'm thinking more automated process for large merchants that do huge volume of transactions.

The process of checking needs to be automated, with as much effort put on the customer as possible. The use of credit cards is accepted because to get one you need to have gone through various hurdles. All the merchants need to worry about is checking the cards are not stolen and they contain sufficient funds.

Something like:

* user enters personal data at the merchants store front
* personal data goes through third party verification process that handles KYC (KYC gets updated by the customer every x period)
* user engages with merchant and provides data for shipping
* user pays
* merchant can automatically cross check someone has done KYC during the payment acceptance process
* Merchant can link transaction to KYC for reporting, if required.
* customer and merchant transact. Goods are dispatched.

The issue about anonymity for this type of opt-in facility is about public display of transactions on a block chain, not about total anonymity, i.e. compared to a normal credit card transaction, the only thing missing is an imprint of the transaction in the block chain that can be daisy-chained to other transactions. A similar relationship would exist with the merchant knowing who the customer is by reference to credit card data. Unlike credit cards, KYC type verification can be like a one time use password

There must be a way to facilitate third party data attachment for verification with Darkcoin being an enabling tool so it doesn't have to get involved with the verification process which means it remains decentralised.

sangoku

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Quote from: Kai Proctor on April 15, 2014, 07:24:01 AM

Quote from: fra55 on April 15, 2014, 06:43:02 AM

Beautiful indeed

Take a look at the one from Enzwell on darkcointalk (https://www.darkcointalk.org/threads/official-logo-vote.229/page-5#post-1866)

Yeaaaahhh +10000000000000

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Quote from: coins101 on April 14, 2014, 02:41:49 PM

Quote from: luke997 on April 14, 2014, 02:39:19 PM

Quote from: vertoe on April 14, 2014, 02:36:15 PM

Quote from: TingCoin on April 14, 2014, 02:30:49 PM

I think a multipool that auto-sells for DRK would be perfect, it'd save me a job anyway Tongue

. And it would do wonders for the price I'm sure, which right now is just too stable for my liking (which isn't a bad thing though!)

+1 talking of that for so long now. where are all the pool devs??? $$$

Could it be ChaosITec secret project? Wink

Multipool floated a few pages back.

Quote from: coins101 on March 15, 2014, 06:45:50 AM

~~1. DarkGravityWave release~~
2. Mutlipool which pays out in Darkcoin
3. Come out of DarkSend beta
4. Hackfest to try and break Darksend (zerocash will probably lead the charge)
5. Dark Wallet to confirm they are officially giving up
6. GMaxwell to acknowledge DarkSend is looking pretty close to e-cash vs. Bitcoin
7. Satoshi to move some $100m of coins through DarkSend, maybe just $1 would do it
8. Media to go to town on rights and wrongs of DarkCoin, privacy, e-cash, etc.

Quote from: godzirra on April 14, 2014, 04:40:15 PM

It would be cool to have a bounty for a Drk multipool.

Quote from: kaene on April 15, 2014, 05:45:21 AM

Regarding the DRK multipool, if anyone knows how to set it up I would like to be your partner. I can help with the coding (PHP, python, C/C++ ...), I have some servers that we could use, I could help with maintenance and promotion. Send me PM.

Why DRK multipool could be good? It could drive all at once the price up, diff down, reward up and market cap up.

Come on, there is so much money in there, why is the pool not finished yet? Tongue

I keep coming back to this thread and doing CTRL+F "multipool" Cheesy

Kai Proctor

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Quote from: fra55 on April 15, 2014, 06:43:02 AM

Beautiful indeed

Take a look at the one from Enzwell on darkcointalk (https://www.darkcointalk.org/threads/official-logo-vote.229/page-5#post-1866)

fra55

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Quote from: matt608 on April 15, 2014, 04:00:22 AM

Quote from: droptable on April 11, 2014, 10:19:16 PM

guess who couldnt sleep tonight....

This is awesome.

Beautiful indeed

tabnk

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SO MANY NICE LOGO Cheesy

kaene

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Regarding the DRK multipool, if anyone knows how to set it up I would like to be your partner. I can help with the coding (PHP, python, C/C++ ...), I have some servers that we could use, I could help with maintenance and promotion. Send me PM.

Why DRK multipool could be good? It could drive all at once the price up, diff down, reward up and market cap up.

Honest Tim

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I have just logged onto my Vault of Satoshi account and can confirm that they are live with DRK.
You can now buy DRK with fiat Cool

droptable

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This is a wallpaper.
It may contain traces of nuts, stupid dummy text, typos, and even stylistic devices which are not suitable for logos.
This is not a logo. This is a wallpaper.

blajde

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Pre-sale - March 18

Quote from: coinzcoinzcoinz on April 15, 2014, 04:52:18 AM

Ugh that wallpaper is ugly. You can learn hard to have all the best 3D and Photoshop skills in the world, but taste is something that you can't learn.

Although subjectivity seems like the most foreign word to most people

coinzcoinzcoinz

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Ugh that wallpaper is ugly. You can learn hard to have all the best 3D and Photoshop skills in the world, but taste is something that you can't learn.

stealth923

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Quote from: droptable on April 15, 2014, 04:21:19 AM

This is a wallpaper.
It may contain traces of nuts, stupid dummy text, typos, and even stylistic devices which are not suitable for logos.
This is not a logo. This is a wallpaper.

Im in love....

I think that should be our motto "We go dark"

droptable

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This is a wallpaper.
It may contain traces of nuts, stupid dummy text, typos, and even stylistic devices which are not suitable for logos.
This is not a logo. This is a wallpaper.

matt608

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Quote from: droptable on April 11, 2014, 10:19:16 PM

guess who couldnt sleep tonight....

This is awesome.

luke997

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If anyone had any illusions about the BC pump... big boys have long sold, now the question where does the new floor sits.
3day chart now looks quite similar to my earlier post Wink

P.S. I don't have anything against BC, just pointing out obvious P&D...

dotnetmin

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Quote from: AlexGR on April 15, 2014, 01:36:31 AM

Quote from: dzimbeck on April 14, 2014, 07:57:14 PM

There is a lot of crap being posted about BC here and I want to clarify. Its not being pumped on specualtion its being pumped because the multipool dumps crapcoins and buys blackcoin.

5000 BTC per day mining from the BC multipool? No. At best close to 1% of that. So >99% of the pump volume is unaccounted for.

Thats unbelivable what happens to BC. That can´t have something to do with the coin itsself. It´s only playground for big BTC holders.
Some people orchestrate the biggest pump and dump i´ve ever seen on cryptocoinmarket.
Only standing on the sideline and watching what happens Shocked

I lost enough with some other coins i the past and learned my lessens to stay away from these trades.

DRK looks like boring to this, but in the end ...
People will always remember their lost with BC and stay away in future and searching for something more longtime investment.

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Quote from: Jeff8247 on April 15, 2014, 02:07:45 AM

Guys what are the hash rates with an R9 290? I am getting about 2.5Mh per card but not sure if this is good or not.

Thanks

First page.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4585001

Other tools / Mining hardware.

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