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legendary
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Logo competition update

117 crowdsourced designs have come in, and can be viewed here: https://www.darkcointalk.org/threads/logo-designs-all-please-view-discuss.205/

Selection process will be as follows (this will all happen on darkcointalk.org, not here):

Day 1. Post all the designs for people to look at & discuss, including the current logo and earlier community generated designs.
Day 2. I will post a draft subset of these that I've narrowed down for inclusion in the first vote (people can debate inclusions/exclusions).
Day 3. First vote will be posted, and it will be open for 48 hrs. First vote will include the preselected subset with modifications based on discussion on day 2.
Day 5. Depending on how close vote 1 is, a final 48 hr vote may be called with the top x number of submissions.

Darkcoin team will officially retain the right to veto & call re-votes, in case democracy-by-online-poll goes horribly wrong, although I don't anticipate that happening.

I do have to say that most of those designs submitted are terrible, some of them look almost identical to the digibyte logo!
Those ones should be removed ASAP!
There are a handful of logos i really like, but personally i dont see anything with the current logo.
Is it too late to submit a design?
I may put something together if i have time this weekend. Smiley
sr. member
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1xbit.com
Logo competition update

117 crowdsourced designs have come in, and can be viewed here: https://www.darkcointalk.org/threads/logo-designs-all-please-view-discuss.205/

Selection process will be as follows (this will all happen on darkcointalk.org, not here):

Day 1. Post all the designs for people to look at & discuss, including the current logo and earlier community generated designs.
Day 2. I will post a draft subset of these that I've narrowed down for inclusion in the first vote (people can debate inclusions/exclusions).
Day 3. First vote will be posted, and it will be open for 48 hrs. First vote will include the preselected subset with modifications based on discussion on day 2.
Day 5. Depending on how close vote 1 is, a final 48 hr vote may be called with the top x number of submissions.

Darkcoin team will officially retain the right to veto & call re-votes, in case democracy-by-online-poll goes horribly wrong, although I don't anticipate that happening.
legendary
Activity: 1918
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Thats why POW coins are not sustainable.
NXT has a real future once the jolly things get distributed, since no expensive mining farms are required.
There is not enough room for all these altcoins,  there is only enough room for 5 or 6 coins max i reckon.
Most of these coins will be dead in 12 months, the hard thing is trying to predict what ones will be successfull.

I can't find a way for anything you said here to be valid. Please convince me.

I know a lot of people have stated in many articles that they believe only 5 or 6 coins will ultimately survive.  But the more I think about it, the more I can see many  more coins finding a nitch if more of the population start to use them.  It will be interesting to see where we are 10, 15, 20 years from now.  The press is printing gloom and doom again.  It's so silly, people obviously don't truly understand the value crypto coins bring to the market.  But of course time will tell!

I agree with you. Once crypto becomes ubiquitous and we all have payment apps on our smartphones, the door is wide open for altcoins and the competition will expand to fill every niche in the market. There's no reason these apps couldn't support payment via any altcoin, either directly or seamlessly converted to the merchant's desired coin via an exchange. I could pick DarkKitty3000Coin on my phone, swipe at the terminal, and the merchant receives BTC. It'll happen.
I guess something like that would work, i would really like to see a wallet that integrates all your wallets from various cryptos blockchains into one, would be alot of work, especially with all the new altcoins popping up, but would make it alot easier.
Something based on multibit would be great and if it had the function to connect to an exchange then you could make conversion a breeze.
My hard drive is going to fill up if i download any more wallets and sync the blockchains!
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1xbit.com
Thats why POW coins are not sustainable.
NXT has a real future once the jolly things get distributed, since no expensive mining farms are required.
There is not enough room for all these altcoins,  there is only enough room for 5 or 6 coins max i reckon.
Most of these coins will be dead in 12 months, the hard thing is trying to predict what ones will be successfull.

I can't find a way for anything you said here to be valid. Please convince me.

I know a lot of people have stated in many articles that they believe only 5 or 6 coins will ultimately survive.  But the more I think about it, the more I can see many  more coins finding a nitch if more of the population start to use them.  It will be interesting to see where we are 10, 15, 20 years from now.  The press is printing gloom and doom again.  It's so silly, people obviously don't truly understand the value crypto coins bring to the market.  But of course time will tell!

I agree with you. Once crypto becomes ubiquitous and we all have payment apps on our smartphones, the door is wide open for altcoins and the competition will expand to fill every niche in the market. There's no reason these apps couldn't support payment via any altcoin, either directly or seamlessly converted to the merchant's desired coin via an exchange. I could pick DarkKitty3000Coin on my phone, swipe at the terminal, and the merchant receives BTC. It'll happen.
legendary
Activity: 1918
Merit: 1001
I am mining with an R9-280x and a 7970
I am only getting 2 MH per card, but from what i read i should expect 2.4 MH per card, is this correct?
If so what are the ideal settings for SG miner?
I wish i mined this coin from the start! Apparently with that hashrate, i would have mined 300-400 darkcoins a day!

Do you have the right / latest sgminer (based on 4.1)?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-sph-sgminer-multi-coin-multi-algorithm-gpu-miner-added-marucoin-475795
Yes i believe so, but ill check, i downloaded mine from the official blackcoin page.

i have 280x`s and 7970 and can only get 2 MH per card which i believe is the norm using sph 4.1, with 290`s you can get 2.5 MH.

Some people are reporting 2.4MH whith theirs thats all, but they are probably doing some serious overclocking...
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I am mining with an R9-280x and a 7970
I am only getting 2 MH per card, but from what i read i should expect 2.4 MH per card, is this correct?
If so what are the ideal settings for SG miner?
I wish i mined this coin from the start! Apparently with that hashrate, i would have mined 300-400 darkcoins a day!

Do you have the right / latest sgminer (based on 4.1)?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-sph-sgminer-multi-coin-multi-algorithm-gpu-miner-added-marucoin-475795
Yes i believe so, but ill check, i downloaded mine from the official blackcoin page.

i have 280x`s and 7970 and can only get 2 MH per card which i believe is the norm using sph 4.1, with 290`s you can get 2.5 MH.
sr. member
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legendary
Activity: 1918
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Yes camosoul, i am fairly new, but im not stupid, i understand how cryptos work, i myself work in the IT field (are these coins just for geeks?) lol
But are you saying i should keep all my coins whether they are doge digibyte, mintcoin etc?
Will they all rise relative to bitcoin?
I dont like the limited distribution of NXT, but i still get attracted to its system and design, so in turn i have been mining at hashrate.org for them.
Will all these altcoins retain some value or become completley worthless?
Im looking into the future here in a situation when these cryptos are used in retail shops, where retailers cant wait for a transaction to complete, hence why speed is the most important aspect. The volatility of cryptos is a nightmare for retailers at present also, since the price drops up and down like a yo-yo. That will be the biggest hurdle, but hopefully this is wont be a problem after adoption.
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Updated to the new wallet and network! Now with Cryptsy price displayed Smiley
Address: drk.p2phash.com

P2Pool benefits:

* No registration required
* Distributed hashrate
* Immediate payouts after a block is found
* Higher payouts with transaction fees paid to miners
* No account hack possible

Fee: only 0.5%
Start mining within seconds! Just point your miner to p2phash.com:7903 and use the Darkcoin address from your wallet for username, the password doesn't matter.


You can now follow us on twitter: https://twitter.com/P2PHash
hero member
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Trading will make me rich)
I would like to see a POW

The bottom line to the PoW vs PoS argument is that PoW isn't broken and doesn't need to be fixed. My car might get a flat tire, but I'm not panicking about it and trying to convince people that air-filled tires are just a disaster waiting to happen and the whole world is going to implode as a result of using them... So what if PoW has a long-shot potential issue? I might get hit by lightning, again, while simultaneously winning the lottery in 4 States at once, all of which I have never visited or even played the Lottery, but I still win as a token of wild chance that causes the wind to blow those 4 winning lottery tickets into my open mouth as I snore too loudly inside a dumpster in Harlem. My farts could turn into a zombie-causing virus that destroys the world. It COULD happen... Not likely tho...

IMO PoW isn't broken and no need to fix it, but is better to change it to PoS  Wink

Really, look at last PoS shitcoins like MintCoin, BlackCoin etc. Aren't they just useless clones? But look at that trading volume and prices! PoS is new trend, miners can still mine such coins with the help of multipools, people like it. There still are not so many PoS coins, and except NXT and some projects in development, there is nothing significant at all.
hero member
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www.OroCoin.co
I would like to see a POW

The bottom line to the PoW vs PoS argument is that PoW isn't broken and doesn't need to be fixed. My car might get a flat tire, but I'm not panicking about it and trying to convince people that air-filled tires are just a disaster waiting to happen and the whole world is going to implode as a result of using them... So what if PoW has a long-shot potential issue? I might get hit by lightning, again, while simultaneously winning the lottery in 4 States at once, all of which I have never visited or even played the Lottery, but I still win as a token of wild chance that causes the wind to blow those 4 winning lottery tickets into my open mouth as I snore too loudly inside a dumpster in Harlem. My farts could turn into a zombie-causing virus that destroys the world. It COULD happen... Not likely tho...
legendary
Activity: 1918
Merit: 1001
Thats why POW coins are not sustainable.
NXT has a real future once the jolly things get distributed, since no expensive mining farms are required.
There is not enough room for all these altcoins,  there is only enough room for 5 or 6 coins max i reckon.
Most of these coins will be dead in 12 months, the hard thing is trying to predict what ones will be successfull.

I can't find a way for anything you said here to be valid. Please convince me.

I know a lot of people have stated in many articles that they believe only 5 or 6 coins will ultimately survive.  But the more I think about it, the more I can see many  more coins finding a nitch if more of the population start to use them.  It will be interesting to see where we are 10, 15, 20 years from now.  The press is printing gloom and doom again.  It's so silly, people obviously don't truly understand the value crypto coins bring to the market.  But of course time will tell!
I just wish i had a time machine, because i would know for sure what coin(s) will succeed!
I need to know, because i cant wast my time and money mining coins that are not going to be worth anything! lol
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www.OroCoin.co
I can't find a way for anything you said here to be valid. Please convince me.
Seriously, most of these coins are crap, kittencoin, flappycoin, etc, do you really think that shops are going to have the means of accepting all these currencies?
C-cex.com
Cryptsy.com

and so many others... Is it so hard to cut and paste a deposit address from any of their offered currencies into a QR code generating website?

Cryptocurrencies are pretty liquid in interexchange. It doesn't really matter what crypto you've got. ShitCoins are everywhere. So? Are you new? ;-)

Not to mention the values on them are so low, with some coins i would need over a million coins for a cup on coffee, and we still havnt got any coins that are the speed of EFTPOS or credit card, NXT is the only currency that im aware of that can have instant confirmations.

I don't see how either one of these points really matters... How many pennies does it take to buy a car? Why does it have to be instant? EFTPOS/NXT, for what benefit? UPS still takes days to deliver... Face to Face I generally don't use Crypto because I hate explaining it to noobs.

Most of these altcoins will be pumped and dumped into bitcoin, litecoin and a few other "professional" valuable coins.

Yeah? So?

Im just sick of seeing all these cloned coins with a different logo and no serious development put into them, most are just different block times and the amount of coins issues that have changed.

You're failing to see the advantages of a buttload of easily interchangeable cryptocurrencies... Their blockchains. I don't even care if the coin sucks and is a pointless clone. If I just want to push around impossible blockchain records/monitoring, I can. Switching around on crypto-only exchanges is the ultimate mixer.

Darkcoin is one of the few coins with some serious innovation. Dogecoin is only successful because its attached to a meme and has a huge community, i see more future with doge than many other altcoins.

Dogecoin leverages humanity's most abundant resource; stupidity in large groups. Thus, if it's stupid, but works, it isn't stupid.

What we need is a unified global currency, and that was the whole idea of bitcoin, and it still will be a major currency, but look how fast its dropped in value, and its still going down.

All the altcoins are unified by the fact that since there is no direct exchange for them, they are all just extensions of BitCoin, essentially. Pick the one you like, or don't, or just want to float through for the day or the hour. Lots of people using VertCoin where you are? But you don't like VertCoin? So? It's barely a point to differentiate when the exchanges are so fluid.

I think alot of people are creating these coins in the hope it will do the same thing as bitcoin and make a quick buck, not to say that it wont happen, but with so many coins to choose from, what one is it going to be? I dont have the resources to mine them all and im sure no one else does either, the list of altcoins is growing by the day.

I think you're just new... You're having the same thoughts many other people already thought through 3 years ago. Altcoins are actually a blessing. Even the crappy ones.
legendary
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Thats why POW coins are not sustainable.
NXT has a real future once the jolly things get distributed, since no expensive mining farms are required.
There is not enough room for all these altcoins,  there is only enough room for 5 or 6 coins max i reckon.
Most of these coins will be dead in 12 months, the hard thing is trying to predict what ones will be successfull.
I do see some future in darkcoin, so im mining some, but i think its going to be easier to pump and dump other altcoins into darkcoin, since its difficulty is so high, i wished i mined this at the start, i could have got 400 coins a day!


But that always seemed like a cop-out to me . . in that all I can think that was said when it was started was: "Well we can't figure out how to make it decentralized so we'll just start at the end and move toward the middle."

I respect the effort as a whole and hope it finds true growth, but it's basically like someone telling me: "I am rich now because I made a stake a long time before you did, and you should do so now so that you can spread the word." Just doesn't sit right with me.

Just because PoW coins are susceptible to the same centralization that NXT started with doesn't mean at all that it's not sustainable. It just means that nobody's came up with a way to slow the process to a complete crawl yet. I'm not ready to say, and probably never will be ready to say, that we should just abandon a PoW concept.

I would like to see a POW concept that could limit the maximum amount of coins any one miner could get per day, no matter what hashpower they throw at it, of course that would be hard to implement, but i would like to see a coin where the reward and difficulty stays constant, but not have a ridiculously high reward to start with, ie with some coins we still have miners who have millions of coins from the start, but down the track, the late miners get just a few coins per day.

I think the idea behind stability shares tried to address this.

And with bitcoin, i highly doubt its going to be worth mining soon, even with the newest ASICS, the power costs probably cost more than the coins earned with the price of bitcoin halving.
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The Future Of Work
Thats why POW coins are not sustainable.
NXT has a real future once the jolly things get distributed, since no expensive mining farms are required.
There is not enough room for all these altcoins,  there is only enough room for 5 or 6 coins max i reckon.
Most of these coins will be dead in 12 months, the hard thing is trying to predict what ones will be successfull.

I can't find a way for anything you said here to be valid. Please convince me.

I know a lot of people have stated in many articles that they believe only 5 or 6 coins will ultimately survive.  But the more I think about it, the more I can see many  more coins finding a nitch if more of the population start to use them.  It will be interesting to see where we are 10, 15, 20 years from now.  The press is printing gloom and doom again.  It's so silly, people obviously don't truly understand the value crypto coins bring to the market.  But of course time will tell!
legendary
Activity: 1918
Merit: 1001
Thats why POW coins are not sustainable.
NXT has a real future once the jolly things get distributed, since no expensive mining farms are required.
There is not enough room for all these altcoins,  there is only enough room for 5 or 6 coins max i reckon.
Most of these coins will be dead in 12 months, the hard thing is trying to predict what ones will be successfull.

I can't find a way for anything you said here to be valid. Please convince me.
Seriously, most of these coins are crap, kittencoin, flappycoin, etc, do you really think that shops are going to have the means of accepting all these currencies? Not to mention the values on them are so low, with some coins i would need over a million coins for a cup on coffee, and we still havnt got any coins that are the speed of EFTPOS or credit card, NXT is the only currency that im aware of that can have instant confirmations.
Most of these altcoins will be pumped and dumped into bitcoin, litecoin and a few other "professional" valuable coins.
Im just sick of seeing all these cloned coins with a different logo and no serious development put into them, most are just different block times and the amount of coins issues that have changed.
Darkcoin is one of the few coins with some serious innovation. Dogecoin is only successful because its attached to a meme and has a huge community, i see more future with doge than many other altcoins.
What we need is a unified global currency, and that was the whole idea of bitcoin, and it still will be a major currency, but look how fast its dropped in value, and its still going down.
I think alot of people are creating these coins in the hope it will do the same thing as bitcoin and make a quick buck, not to say that it wont happen, but with so many coins to choose from, what one is it going to be? I dont have the resources to mine them all and im sure no one else does either, the list of altcoins is growing by the day.
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Thats why POW coins are not sustainable.
NXT has a real future once the jolly things get distributed, since no expensive mining farms are required.
There is not enough room for all these altcoins,  there is only enough room for 5 or 6 coins max i reckon.
Most of these coins will be dead in 12 months, the hard thing is trying to predict what ones will be successfull.
I do see some future in darkcoin, so im mining some, but i think its going to be easier to pump and dump other altcoins into darkcoin, since its difficulty is so high, i wished i mined this at the start, i could have got 400 coins a day!


But that always seemed like a cop-out to me . . in that all I can think that was said when it was started was: "Well we can't figure out how to make it decentralized so we'll just start at the end and move toward the middle."

I respect the effort as a whole and hope it finds true growth, but it's basically like someone telling me: "I am rich now because I made a stake a long time before you did, and you should do so now so that you can spread the word." Just doesn't sit right with me.

Just because PoW coins are susceptible to the same centralization that NXT started with doesn't mean at all that it's not sustainable. It just means that nobody's came up with a way to slow the process to a complete crawl yet. I'm not ready to say, and probably never will be ready to say, that we should just abandon a PoW concept.

hero member
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www.OroCoin.co
Thats why POW coins are not sustainable.
NXT has a real future once the jolly things get distributed, since no expensive mining farms are required.
There is not enough room for all these altcoins,  there is only enough room for 5 or 6 coins max i reckon.
Most of these coins will be dead in 12 months, the hard thing is trying to predict what ones will be successfull.

I can't find a way for anything you said here to be valid. Please convince me.
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The Future Of Work
Just want to say one more time, in case I missed saying it, I'm super sad lotterymining pool is closing.  Cry  I've enjoyed being there, I even won a lottery.  If any pool were going to be here forever, I honestly thought lotterymining would have been it.  I'll be mining there until April 22, then I may retire my computers from mining and start gaming again  Cheesy

I hope you, CHAOSiTEC and your wife will soon be able to buy that house, and that you fill it with little ones Smiley  And I especially hope you'll still come talk to us here.  I'm glad the dice game and wheel of fortune, etc... are still going to be run by you, that means you're still invested in us Cheesy  Thanks for all you've done for us, you really were responsible for a lot of the good vibes we have here in this thread!

Oh BTW, Evan must have updated the beta 5 wallet, because it did finally sync  Cheesy
legendary
Activity: 1918
Merit: 1001
Thats why POW coins are not sustainable.
NXT has a real future once the jolly things get distributed, since no expensive mining farms are required.
There is not enough room for all these altcoins,  there is only enough room for 5 or 6 coins max i reckon.
Most of these coins will be dead in 12 months, the hard thing is trying to predict what ones will be successfull.
I do see some future in darkcoin, so im mining some, but i think its going to be easier to pump and dump other altcoins into darkcoin, since its difficulty is so high, i wished i mined this at the start, i could have got 400 coins a day!
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