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The Future Of Work
But having a DarkSend dev team on our side is a great advantage. Another advantage would be if somebody created a some marketplace or provide services for DRK, which would make it backed by some real economy. But maybe some already exist, I do not follow all the news. Also DarkCoin already managed to create some community around it, which many clonecoins struggle with. The larger the community is, higher the chance that the coin will not be lost among its clones.

If DarkSend is out, very soon will also come out some clonecoin with aggressive marketing. Therefore at that time Darkcoin must be widely known among cryptocoin public so we definitely need some marketing.

However at this point all what's DRK standing on is promise of DarkSend. Therefore many speculators are holding or buying. However DarkSend is still in the very early stage of development and there is still a chance that there is some undiscovered fundamental flaw in design that cannot be easily fixed.

You forgot the major point that Darkcoin without Darksend is a Quarkcoin clone without the instamine.  So has a lot going for it as a CPU-minable-friendly coin as well as Darksend.  Yes GPU's are a lot more efficient, but not by as bigger factor as Scrypt is.  Whether this helps attract more low level miners to boost the economy or whether it just helps to attract botnets more to pump-and-dump we can only wait and see.

Actually, with 5 or 6 more algorithms than Quark, it is arguably more resistant to asics.
hero member
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Hey guys I'm trying to help create a Darkcoin community so we aren't all just stuck in this one little thread Cheesy

Anyway I'm giving away 100 DRK come join me https://www.darkcointalk.org/threads/100-drk-giveaway.12/
nice job my man! I'm in. I will release code for a darkcoin donate widget based off of the feathercoin widget based off bitcoin widget. Whew...that's a lot of basing. anyway, once the darkcoin block explorer is up again, I will post it. What are some other features the community can work on to help integrate drk into other facets of digital or non-digital life? We should really be thinking about this as eduff is going to be speaking at the crypto convention in ny in less than a month which will, hopefully, be a boon in terms of awareness. Imagine eduff dropping darksend on those there! I'd hate to be the guy who has to follow him! Anyway, we should start to harness our brain powers on things the community needs and not on the manipulations that are or aren't happening with the price. I like the idea of marketing, but beyond the general like or seed of idea, we have to water that sucker and get some blooms to fasten to root. Maybe we set up a giveaway of 2000 dark to best video made by users pimping drk sent to a facebook page. Or take donations, ala doge, and send it off to a company operating in harsh sketchy conditions, doctors without borders or something. I'm just typing out loud here. I can donate 2-3k drk to something worthwhile. Or maybe take donations to send to dorian nakamoto. Highlight the need to remain anonymous. That's all I got for now. 
p.s.
TanteStefana and I seem to be on the same wavelength as I tried to submit this only to be halted by their post. Traction is happening, let's do this. Eduff has made and is making a great crypto, light years ahead of anything out there. We need to stay vigilant. Get the word out. Make a framework for the community that will come. They will come. And when they do, let's be prepared, solid and ready for action
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DRK has two big issues that I see:

(1) Because the power draw is only 60% of scrypt, large GPU farms that mine altcoins and dump them for BTC/fiat have an incentive to target DRK. More profit even at price parity due to lower electricity costs. This will keep market supply high perpetually and hence keep the price low.

(2) The legions of unremarkable clone-coins will implement DarkSend once it's open-sourced. See how zero-talent "devs" are copy-pasting Vertcoin's anti-ASIC adaptive N algorithm.

For both (1) and (2) the solution is greater adoption. In the case of (1) it reduces these quasi-commercial dumpers to a smaller proportion of the market. In the case of (2), it allows DRK to achieve escape velocity and get to a point where a competing clone coin can't catch up due to lacking the network effect.

So I see "marketing" as crucial, even in the short-term. In any case, DarkSend should probably be kept closed-source before hitting at least Bter and BTC38 (not that I'm in any position to advise devs). Call it an extended mandatory beta or something. Tongue

(1) 'Gravity Well' to an extent.

(2) Being first to the market always has an advantage just like bitcoin.  Especially if the DRK dev team is leading the development of P2P Darksend.

Point #1, the one good thing is that the coins get spread around.  This can help the coin gain traction with a larger user base, which is the most important thing.  If only 500 of us have the coin, where are we going to spend it?  This is the one real thing Dogecoin has going for it.

I don't think it's going to be much longer before we're out of this first beta, or a beta that is released as the main wallet, but I know there is more that eduffield wants to do with the coin.  It's getting to be time that we spread the word.  Darksend is working very well, the only kink is it isn't idiot proof to set up (but it's not losing any coin in the setup etc..., just sometimes has hick-ups and the send doesn't go through)  So I suggest we get ready Smiley
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I am having problems to mine this. It works perfectly with the CPU miner, but when I try yo mine with the GPU one, which I downloaded from the official web, it says that it can't find the pool. I use this code:   sgminer.exe --kernel darkcoin -o stratum+tcp://drkpool.com:3333 -u x -p x

It is written correctly, the same as the CPU miner, so I don't know why it is not working.

error,  like this

Code:
[17:38:18] No servers were found that could be used to get work from.
[17:38:18] Please check the details from the list below of the servers you have
input
[17:38:18] Most likely you have input the wrong URL, forgotten to add a port, or
have not set up workers

Use sph-sgminer.
newest builds can be found here
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-sph-sgminer-multi-coin-multi-algorithm-gpu-miner-added-marucoin-475795

That worked, thanks!
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I agree with Bill Hicks, that anyone involved in marketing, should, quite literally kill themselves.

I generally dislike marketing.  I mean, seriously, to the point where I don't tolerate logos in my home.  Sometimes it's even kind of comical; I can't explain to anyone why I replace the logo-buttons on designer jackets, or file them off and buff them smooth.  I don't watch TV because that means being exposed to commercials.  It's enough to just see billboards and crap when I'm driving - that's unavoidable, so I've come to live with it.  But I need to sit down and sort of put my head together right for fifteen minutes or so after a long drive, and it's mainly because of billboards.

I can't really explain that.  It happens on some visceral, very emotional level. 

But when I think about it, the only thing I really have a good reason to hate about marketing, the only thing justified about this whole phobia/quirk/whatever of mine, is because I really, really hate lies.  And much as it's associated in my mind and probably yours, I have to admit that not all marketing is lies.


LOL, funny how we all have our foibles, and I'm hardly exempt  Cheesy
legendary
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Hey guys I'm trying to help create a Darkcoin community so we aren't all just stuck in this one little thread Cheesy

Anyway I'm giving away 100 DRK come join me https://www.darkcointalk.org/threads/100-drk-giveaway.12/
hero member
Activity: 658
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I am having problems to mine this. It works perfectly with the CPU miner, but when I try yo mine with the GPU one, which I downloaded from the official web, it says that it can't find the pool. I use this code:   sgminer.exe --kernel darkcoin -o stratum+tcp://drkpool.com:3333 -u x -p x

It is written correctly, the same as the CPU miner, so I don't know why it is not working.

error,  like this

Code:
[17:38:18] No servers were found that could be used to get work from.
[17:38:18] Please check the details from the list below of the servers you have
input
[17:38:18] Most likely you have input the wrong URL, forgotten to add a port, or
have not set up workers

Use sph-sgminer.
newest builds can be found here
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-sph-sgminer-multi-coin-multi-algorithm-gpu-miner-added-marucoin-475795
sr. member
Activity: 294
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I am having problems to mine this. It works perfectly with the CPU miner, but when I try yo mine with the GPU one, which I downloaded from the official web, it says that it can't find the pool. I use this code:   sgminer.exe --kernel darkcoin -o stratum+tcp://drkpool.com:3333 -u x -p x

It is written correctly, the same as the CPU miner, so I don't know why it is not working.

error,  like this

Code:
[17:38:18] No servers were found that could be used to get work from.
[17:38:18] Please check the details from the list below of the servers you have
input
[17:38:18] Most likely you have input the wrong URL, forgotten to add a port, or
have not set up workers

Use sph-sgminer.
hero member
Activity: 742
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I am having problems to mine this. It works perfectly with the CPU miner, but when I try yo mine with the GPU one, which I downloaded from the official web, it says that it can't find the pool. I use this code:   sgminer.exe --kernel darkcoin -o stratum+tcp://drkpool.com:3333 -u x -p x

It is written correctly, the same as the CPU miner, so I don't know why it is not working.


http://www.drkpool.com/index.php?page=gettingstarted
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I am having problems to mine this. It works perfectly with the CPU miner, but when I try yo mine with the GPU one, which I downloaded from the official web, it says that it can't find the pool. I use this code:   sgminer.exe --kernel darkcoin -o stratum+tcp://drkpool.com:3333 -u x -p x

It is written correctly, the same as the CPU miner, so I don't know why it is not working.
newbie
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http://p2phash.com/banner.jpg
Hi guys, I'me setting up a new p2pool
Address: drk.p2phash.com

Could some of you try to connect to it, I'd like to test what kind of load my server can handle. Since it's p2pool you won't loose any shares coming from another p2pool and local hashrate doesn't impact your earnings Smiley
Low fee: 0.5%
Location: Switzerland (EU)


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Member_state_of_the_European_Union
legendary
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I've been mining for the past couple days now and I'm just not satisified with my 4DRK/day anymore. I'd like to purchase some DRK but I don't have any BTC, so is there any convenient method to buy DRK directly?

Would sell directly, but we're probably both not in the northeast us.

c-cex has USD/DRK market

but in order to be able to pay with USD you first need to transfer your money from your bank account to Payeer which has a 25% "Gate fee".
At least when trying the SEPA option in Europe. That is why I am not using this site. Does someone know alternatives?

Buy on Localbitcoin
(not cheap, but save and easy and fast)
then go on exchange to get your DRK
if you have them, transfer right away into your wallet (on your computer, offline or paper)
and done !
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But having a DarkSend dev team on our side is a great advantage. Another advantage would be if somebody created a some marketplace or provide services for DRK, which would make it backed by some real economy. But maybe some already exist, I do not follow all the news. Also DarkCoin already managed to create some community around it, which many clonecoins struggle with. The larger the community is, higher the chance that the coin will not be lost among its clones.

If DarkSend is out, very soon will also come out some clonecoin with aggressive marketing. Therefore at that time Darkcoin must be widely known among cryptocoin public so we definitely need some marketing.

However at this point all what's DRK standing on is promise of DarkSend. Therefore many speculators are holding or buying. However DarkSend is still in the very early stage of development and there is still a chance that there is some undiscovered fundamental flaw in design that cannot be easily fixed.

You forgot the major point that Darkcoin without Darksend is a Quarkcoin clone without the instamine.  So has a lot going for it as a CPU-minable-friendly coin as well as Darksend.  Yes GPU's are a lot more efficient, but not by as bigger factor as Scrypt is.  Whether this helps attract more low level miners to boost the economy or whether it just helps to attract botnets more to pump-and-dump we can only wait and see.


I see where you could say it's similar to Quark . . but I don't see luffa, cubehash, shavite, simd or echo in Quark. Also, a different block reward, difficulty and generation time puts this far enough away from Quark that I'd say it's not a clone.

Yeah, it's not a rip-off, but its multiple hashing functions make it more CPU-friendly just like Quarkcoin.  Whether this boosts more low level miners to help grass roots support.  Or just helps botnets is yet to be seen.

Yeah I'm a little worried about the botnets too. I can't even have the cpu miner file program on my comp w/ AV on it for more than a few seconds before it gets quarantined though so at least there's that. Hopefully it doesn't get botnetted to death though.

At least mining memorycoin you needed AES instructions in the cpu, which not every cpu has.
legendary
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But having a DarkSend dev team on our side is a great advantage. Another advantage would be if somebody created a some marketplace or provide services for DRK, which would make it backed by some real economy. But maybe some already exist, I do not follow all the news. Also DarkCoin already managed to create some community around it, which many clonecoins struggle with. The larger the community is, higher the chance that the coin will not be lost among its clones.

If DarkSend is out, very soon will also come out some clonecoin with aggressive marketing. Therefore at that time Darkcoin must be widely known among cryptocoin public so we definitely need some marketing.

However at this point all what's DRK standing on is promise of DarkSend. Therefore many speculators are holding or buying. However DarkSend is still in the very early stage of development and there is still a chance that there is some undiscovered fundamental flaw in design that cannot be easily fixed.

You forgot the major point that Darkcoin without Darksend is a Quarkcoin clone without the instamine.  So has a lot going for it as a CPU-minable-friendly coin as well as Darksend.  Yes GPU's are a lot more efficient, but not by as bigger factor as Scrypt is.  Whether this helps attract more low level miners to boost the economy or whether it just helps to attract botnets more to pump-and-dump we can only wait and see.


I see where you could say it's similar to Quark . . but I don't see luffa, cubehash, shavite, simd or echo in Quark. Also, a different block reward, difficulty and generation time puts this far enough away from Quark that I'd say it's not a clone.

Yeah, it's not a rip-off, but its multiple hashing functions make it more CPU-friendly just like Quarkcoin.  Whether this boosts more low level miners to help grass roots support.  Or just helps botnets is yet to be seen.
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Hi guys, I'me setting up a new p2pool
Address: drk.p2phash.com

Could some of you try to connect to it, I'd like to test what kind of load my server can handle. Since it's p2pool you won't loose any shares coming from another p2pool and local hashrate doesn't impact your earnings Smiley
Low fee: 0.5%
Location: Switzerland (EU)
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But having a DarkSend dev team on our side is a great advantage. Another advantage would be if somebody created a some marketplace or provide services for DRK, which would make it backed by some real economy. But maybe some already exist, I do not follow all the news. Also DarkCoin already managed to create some community around it, which many clonecoins struggle with. The larger the community is, higher the chance that the coin will not be lost among its clones.

If DarkSend is out, very soon will also come out some clonecoin with aggressive marketing. Therefore at that time Darkcoin must be widely known among cryptocoin public so we definitely need some marketing.

However at this point all what's DRK standing on is promise of DarkSend. Therefore many speculators are holding or buying. However DarkSend is still in the very early stage of development and there is still a chance that there is some undiscovered fundamental flaw in design that cannot be easily fixed.

You forgot the major point that Darkcoin without Darksend is a Quarkcoin clone without the instamine.  So has a lot going for it as a CPU-minable-friendly coin as well as Darksend.  Yes GPU's are a lot more efficient, but not by as bigger factor as Scrypt is.  Whether this helps attract more low level miners to boost the economy or whether it just helps to attract botnets more to pump-and-dump we can only wait and see.


I see where you could say it's similar to Quark . . but I don't see luffa, cubehash, shavite, simd or echo in Quark. Also, a different block reward, difficulty and generation time puts this far enough away from Quark that I'd say it's not a clone.
member
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But having a DarkSend dev team on our side is a great advantage. Another advantage would be if somebody created a some marketplace or provide services for DRK, which would make it backed by some real economy. But maybe some already exist, I do not follow all the news. Also DarkCoin already managed to create some community around it, which many clonecoins struggle with. The larger the community is, higher the chance that the coin will not be lost among its clones.

If DarkSend is out, very soon will also come out some clonecoin with aggressive marketing. Therefore at that time Darkcoin must be widely known among cryptocoin public so we definitely need some marketing.

However at this point all what's DRK standing on is promise of DarkSend. Therefore many speculators are holding or buying. However DarkSend is still in the very early stage of development and there is still a chance that there is some undiscovered fundamental flaw in design that cannot be easily fixed.

Adding to what DRK is standing on besides Darksend and the power reduction . . I wouldn't underestimate the ability to mine this with a CPU on a comparable level to which can mine with a GPU. That's huge and is something many other coins have attempted, and came close . . but not close enough where it was good. One 290 is only 10x more powerful than my 4820k.
legendary
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But having a DarkSend dev team on our side is a great advantage. Another advantage would be if somebody created a some marketplace or provide services for DRK, which would make it backed by some real economy. But maybe some already exist, I do not follow all the news. Also DarkCoin already managed to create some community around it, which many clonecoins struggle with. The larger the community is, higher the chance that the coin will not be lost among its clones.

If DarkSend is out, very soon will also come out some clonecoin with aggressive marketing. Therefore at that time Darkcoin must be widely known among cryptocoin public so we definitely need some marketing.

However at this point all what's DRK standing on is promise of DarkSend. Therefore many speculators are holding or buying. However DarkSend is still in the very early stage of development and there is still a chance that there is some undiscovered fundamental flaw in design that cannot be easily fixed.

You forgot the major point that Darkcoin without Darksend is a Quarkcoin clone without the instamine.  So has a lot going for it as a CPU-minable-friendly coin as well as Darksend.  Yes GPU's are a lot more efficient, but not by as bigger factor as Scrypt is.  Whether this helps attract more low level miners to boost the economy or whether it just helps to attract botnets more to pump-and-dump we can only wait and see.
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Unlike a lot of coins DRK brings something new to the table and, in my opinion, anonymity will become a standard. The Darkcoin has a lot of potential, not just for a niche, but for the entire market. But meanwhile let's wait the finished product before thinking marketing.
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But having a DarkSend dev team on our side is a great advantage. Another advantage would be if somebody created a some marketplace or provide services for DRK, which would make it backed by some real economy. But maybe some already exist, I do not follow all the news. Also DarkCoin already managed to create some community around it, which many clonecoins struggle with. The larger the community is, higher the chance that the coin will not be lost among its clones.

If DarkSend is out, very soon will also come out some clonecoin with aggressive marketing. Therefore at that time Darkcoin must be widely known among cryptocoin public so we definitely need some marketing.

However at this point all what's DRK standing on is promise of DarkSend. Therefore many speculators are holding or buying. However DarkSend is still in the very early stage of development and there is still a chance that there is some undiscovered fundamental flaw in design that cannot be easily fixed.
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