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Quote from: eduffield on March 09, 2014, 12:29:07 PM

Quote from: organizer on March 09, 2014, 09:01:56 AM

Quote from: eduffield on February 16, 2014, 03:11:24 PM

I'll be speaking at the Cryptocurrency Convention on Apr 9th in NewYork, detailing how DarkSend works and promoting DarkCoin. If anyone will be in NewYork at that time I'd love to meet you!

http://cryptocurrencyconvention.com/

*My details should be up on the site soon

THIS is the type of "marketing" this coin needs.

Edu, can you talk any about what type of testing (beyond this community doing some DS transactions) you are doing? It's been mentioned before to try to let some "white-hat" types take a hammer to it... anything like that? To me, i'd like some sort of 3rd party endorsement on the anonymous transactions.

There were a few people that came into the forums and said that it wasn't anonymous and could break it, I'll reach out to them and see if they're up for taking a look at it.

This would be great to have for marketing purposes.

Also, I was thinking you could institute a 2% fee for your mining pool that would go towards bounties for the DarkCoin Foundation. This would give miners a chance to contribute to the growth and prosperity of the coin.

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Quote from: megges on March 09, 2014, 11:48:40 AM

orders @ cryptsy are just not following any logics ... i cant understand why we see a new bottom on cryptsy and a spike in difficulty up to 415 ... that makes absolutly no sense ...

can someone explain the logic behind that? has someone a theory?

there will always be dumpers. I just bought myself 500 more.

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Quote from: megges on March 09, 2014, 11:48:40 AM

orders @ cryptsy are just not following any logics ... i cant understand why we see a new bottom on cryptsy and a spike in difficulty up to 415 ... that makes absolutly no sense ...

can someone explain the logic behind that? has someone a theory?

It is strange. At current difficulty (315), 1MH/s of scrypt power earns you about 3.5 DRK per day, which is about 0.004 BTC per MH per day at current prices. Most stable coins earn about 0.008 - 0.012 BTC per MH per day, so it's undervalued in terms of mining by 2x to 3x.

However, trade volumes are pretty low, so you can't read too much into it. Sometimes miners just need to cash out.

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Quote from: eduffield on March 09, 2014, 12:21:19 PM

Quote from: djcrypto on March 09, 2014, 12:14:45 PM

Quote from: eizh on March 08, 2014, 07:51:43 PM

DRK has two big issues that I see:

(1) Because the power draw is only 60% of scrypt, large GPU farms that mine altcoins and dump them for BTC/fiat have an incentive to target DRK. More profit even at price parity due to lower electricity costs. This will keep market supply high perpetually and hence keep the price low.

(2) The legions of unremarkable clone-coins will implement DarkSend once it's open-sourced. See how zero-talent "devs" are copy-pasting Vertcoin's anti-ASIC adaptive N algorithm.

For both (1) and (2) the solution is greater adoption. In the case of (1) it reduces these quasi-commercial dumpers to a smaller proportion of the market. In the case of (2), it allows DRK to achieve escape velocity and get to a point where a competing clone coin can't catch up due to lacking the network effect.

So I see "marketing" as crucial, even in the short-term. In any case, DarkSend should probably be kept closed-source before hitting at least Bter and BTC38 (not that I'm in any position to advise devs). Call it an extended mandatory beta or something. Tongue

I agree, well said.

Is there anyone here with a marketing background that would want to manage that? We could raise some money and use it to draw some attention. Email me at [email protected] if you're interested.

Hey Mr Eduffield I got the marketing plan of the century!

Take out a full page advertisement or online campaign jokingly making an open letter to Mark Karpeles that if he want to keep his ill gotten wealth then he should buy Darkcoins. And if he actually does do it then we all get rich, everyones happy, if he doesn't then great advertising!!!

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/180000-btc-old-coins-have-just-moved-505044 (see this link)

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Quote from: organizer on March 09, 2014, 09:01:56 AM

Quote from: eduffield on February 16, 2014, 03:11:24 PM

I'll be speaking at the Cryptocurrency Convention on Apr 9th in NewYork, detailing how DarkSend works and promoting DarkCoin. If anyone will be in NewYork at that time I'd love to meet you!

http://cryptocurrencyconvention.com/

*My details should be up on the site soon

THIS is the type of "marketing" this coin needs.

Edu, can you talk any about what type of testing (beyond this community doing some DS transactions) you are doing? It's been mentioned before to try to let some "white-hat" types take a hammer to it... anything like that? To me, i'd like some sort of 3rd party endorsement on the anonymous transactions.

There were a few people that came into the forums and said that it wasn't anonymous and could break it, I'll reach out to them and see if they're up for taking a look at it.

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Quote from: djcrypto on March 09, 2014, 12:14:45 PM

Quote from: eizh on March 08, 2014, 07:51:43 PM

DRK has two big issues that I see:

(1) Because the power draw is only 60% of scrypt, large GPU farms that mine altcoins and dump them for BTC/fiat have an incentive to target DRK. More profit even at price parity due to lower electricity costs. This will keep market supply high perpetually and hence keep the price low.

(2) The legions of unremarkable clone-coins will implement DarkSend once it's open-sourced. See how zero-talent "devs" are copy-pasting Vertcoin's anti-ASIC adaptive N algorithm.

For both (1) and (2) the solution is greater adoption. In the case of (1) it reduces these quasi-commercial dumpers to a smaller proportion of the market. In the case of (2), it allows DRK to achieve escape velocity and get to a point where a competing clone coin can't catch up due to lacking the network effect.

So I see "marketing" as crucial, even in the short-term. In any case, DarkSend should probably be kept closed-source before hitting at least Bter and BTC38 (not that I'm in any position to advise devs). Call it an extended mandatory beta or something. Tongue

I agree, well said.

Is there anyone here with a marketing background that would want to manage that? We could raise some money and use it to draw some attention. Email me at [email protected] if you're interested.

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Quote from: eizh on March 08, 2014, 07:51:43 PM

DRK has two big issues that I see:

(1) Because the power draw is only 60% of scrypt, large GPU farms that mine altcoins and dump them for BTC/fiat have an incentive to target DRK. More profit even at price parity due to lower electricity costs. This will keep market supply high perpetually and hence keep the price low.

(2) The legions of unremarkable clone-coins will implement DarkSend once it's open-sourced. See how zero-talent "devs" are copy-pasting Vertcoin's anti-ASIC adaptive N algorithm.

For both (1) and (2) the solution is greater adoption. In the case of (1) it reduces these quasi-commercial dumpers to a smaller proportion of the market. In the case of (2), it allows DRK to achieve escape velocity and get to a point where a competing clone coin can't catch up due to lacking the network effect.

So I see "marketing" as crucial, even in the short-term. In any case, DarkSend should probably be kept closed-source before hitting at least Bter and BTC38 (not that I'm in any position to advise devs). Call it an extended mandatory beta or something. Tongue

I agree, well said.

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Quote from: badman74 on March 09, 2014, 11:29:12 AM

Quote from: CHAOSiTEC on March 09, 2014, 11:14:38 AM

Quote from: camosoul on March 09, 2014, 11:02:21 AM

Quote from: sippsnapp on March 09, 2014, 10:48:45 AM

did you tried :

Code:

set GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT=100
set GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS=1

or

Code:

setx GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT=100
setx GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS=1

Set, setx, and export. Doesn't matter. It complains that these are unset no matter what.

Code:

bash:~$ echo $GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS
1
bash:~$ echo $GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT
100

They ARE set, sgminer is just lying to mess with me... It's a woman. :-p

those settings are used by opencl. try finding another release, or redownload and reinstall

try using --no-adl just to see if it will start up and mine....
it will not have any clock control or monitoring but if it works it is probably your adl drivers

Starts up and mines just the same with the --no-adl flag.

Rebuilt sgminer, dropped --no-adl flag... No effect.

Confused as to why broken and unfixable libGL halts the build of a program that has no use for libGL (darkcoin-qt), but sgminer still builds just fine...

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orders @ cryptsy are just not following any logics ... i cant understand why we see a new bottom on cryptsy and a spike in difficulty up to 415 ... that makes absolutly no sense ...

can someone explain the logic behind that? has someone a theory?

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Quote from: CHAOSiTEC on March 09, 2014, 11:14:38 AM

Quote from: camosoul on March 09, 2014, 11:02:21 AM

Quote from: sippsnapp on March 09, 2014, 10:48:45 AM

did you tried :

Code:

set GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT=100
set GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS=1

or

Code:

setx GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT=100
setx GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS=1

Set, setx, and export. Doesn't matter. It complains that these are unset no matter what.

Code:

bash:~$ echo $GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS
1
bash:~$ echo $GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT
100

They ARE set, sgminer is just lying to mess with me... It's a woman. :-p

those settings are used by opencl. try finding another release, or redownload and reinstall

try using --no-adl just to see if it will start up and mine....
it will not have any clock control or monitoring but if it works it is probably your adl drivers

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just bought 500 darkcoin on cryptsy for 0.00125. Someone dumped a lot. Get them cheap while u can.

CHAOSiTEC

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Quote from: camosoul on March 09, 2014, 11:02:21 AM

Quote from: sippsnapp on March 09, 2014, 10:48:45 AM

did you tried :

Code:

set GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT=100
set GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS=1

or

Code:

setx GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT=100
setx GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS=1

Set, setx, and export. Doesn't matter. It complains that these are unset no matter what.

Code:

bash:~$ echo $GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS
1
bash:~$ echo $GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT
100

They ARE set, sgminer is just lying to mess with me... It's a woman. :-p

those settings are used by opencl. try finding another release, or redownload and reinstall

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Quote from: sippsnapp on March 09, 2014, 10:48:45 AM

did you tried :

Code:

set GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT=100
set GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS=1

or

Code:

setx GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT=100
setx GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS=1

Set, setx, and export. Doesn't matter. It complains that these are unset no matter what.

Code:

bash:~$ echo $GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS
1
bash:~$ echo $GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT
100

They ARE set, sgminer is just lying to mess with me... It's a woman. :-p

sippsnapp

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Quote from: camosoul on March 09, 2014, 10:41:51 AM

Quote from: tifozi on March 09, 2014, 03:54:56 AM

Quote from: camosoul on March 09, 2014, 03:19:50 AM

./sgminer -k darkcoin \
-o stratum+tcp://lotterymining.com:4444 -u un -p pw \
--thread-concurrency 8192 -I 19 -g 1 \
--gpu-engine 1450 \
--gpu-memclock 1450

[04:21:59] WARNING: GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT is not specified!
[04:21:59] WARNING: GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS is not specified!

It's 4:30am, going to sleep...

Way too high core clock. Start with 1050 and you can move up a bit maybe around 1140.

Memclock to 1500

This generally works good for most 7970 -I 13 -g 2 -w 256 --thread-concurrency 8192.

Very rarely you can't use 2 threads (search for The Stilt's bioses), in that case -I 20 -g 1 -w 256 --thread-concurrency 24000 and tweak TC to higher numbers upto stability.

Also add to the startup script for sgminer

Code:

#!/bin/bash
export GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT=100
export GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS=1

config now set as follows, still no effect on speed:

Quote from: failconfig

./sgminer -k darkcoin \
-o stratum+tcp://lotterymining.com:4444 -u un -p pw \
--thread-concurrency 8192 -I 13 -g 2 -w 256 \
--gpu-engine 1050 --gpu-memclock 1500

It still complains about the exported variables as if they hadn't been exported.

Quote from: failsplosion

[11:40:05] Started sgminer 4.1.0-85-gccc7d
[11:40:05] ADL found less devices than opencl!
[11:40:05] There is possibly more than one display attached to a GPU
[11:40:05] Use the gpu map feature to reliably map OpenCL to ADL
[11:40:05] WARNING: Number of OpenCL and ADL devices did not match!
[11:40:05] Hardware monitoring may NOT match up with devices!
[11:40:05] WARNING: GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT is not specified!
[11:40:05] WARNING: GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS is not specified!
[11:40:05] Kernel darkcoin is experimental.
[11:40:05] Kernel darkcoin is experimental.
[11:40:05] Probing for an alive pool
[11:40:05] Pool 0 difficulty changed to 0.008
[11:40:06] Network diff set to 300

I have a hunch that ADL/OpenCL whining is part of the problem. I think the values passed in the command line are being ignored. Thus, why setting GPU clock to 1500 didn't do anything bad or good; it's not actually happening.

did you tried :

Code:

set GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT=100
set GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS=1

or

Code:

setx GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT=100
setx GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS=1

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Quote from: tifozi on March 09, 2014, 03:54:56 AM

Quote from: camosoul on March 09, 2014, 03:19:50 AM

./sgminer -k darkcoin \
-o stratum+tcp://lotterymining.com:4444 -u un -p pw \
--thread-concurrency 8192 -I 19 -g 1 \
--gpu-engine 1450 \
--gpu-memclock 1450

[04:21:59] WARNING: GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT is not specified!
[04:21:59] WARNING: GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS is not specified!

It's 4:30am, going to sleep...

Way too high core clock. Start with 1050 and you can move up a bit maybe around 1140.

Memclock to 1500

This generally works good for most 7970 -I 13 -g 2 -w 256 --thread-concurrency 8192.

Very rarely you can't use 2 threads (search for The Stilt's bioses), in that case -I 20 -g 1 -w 256 --thread-concurrency 24000 and tweak TC to higher numbers upto stability.

Also add to the startup script for sgminer

Code:

#!/bin/bash
export GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT=100
export GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS=1

config now set as follows, still no effect on speed:

Quote from: failconfig

./sgminer -k darkcoin \
-o stratum+tcp://lotterymining.com:4444 -u un -p pw \
--thread-concurrency 8192 -I 13 -g 2 -w 256 \
--gpu-engine 1050 --gpu-memclock 1500

It still complains about the exported variables as if they hadn't been exported.

Quote from: failsplosion

[11:40:05] Started sgminer 4.1.0-85-gccc7d
[11:40:05] ADL found less devices than opencl!
[11:40:05] There is possibly more than one display attached to a GPU
[11:40:05] Use the gpu map feature to reliably map OpenCL to ADL
[11:40:05] WARNING: Number of OpenCL and ADL devices did not match!
[11:40:05] Hardware monitoring may NOT match up with devices!
[11:40:05] WARNING: GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT is not specified!
[11:40:05] WARNING: GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS is not specified!
[11:40:05] Kernel darkcoin is experimental.
[11:40:05] Kernel darkcoin is experimental.
[11:40:05] Probing for an alive pool
[11:40:05] Pool 0 difficulty changed to 0.008
[11:40:06] Network diff set to 300

I have a hunch that ADL/OpenCL whining is part of the problem. I think the values passed in the command line are being ignored. Thus, why setting GPU clock to 1500 didn't do anything bad or good; it's not actually happening.

Also, found that libGL.so is only being installed in /usr/lib32/ which is complete fail. No idea what it previously was just fine but then went poof. Tried manually linking /usr/lib/libGL.so to /usr/lib32/fglrx/libGL.so.1.2 and that is a disaster, as expected... It's just plain borked up beyond hope and I'm done wasting my time on it. I have too much real work to do to play these games with busted ubuntu crap.

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Quote from: lumeire on March 09, 2014, 09:39:39 AM

Quote from: DuvajBalone on March 09, 2014, 09:01:49 AM

Quote from: sippsnapp on March 09, 2014, 08:49:59 AM

Quote from: sippsnapp on March 09, 2014, 06:07:35 AM

I still can not get my gtx9800gtx+ to work with sgminer.

Code:

set GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT=100
set GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS=1
sgminer.exe -o stratum+tcp://62.141.39.175:7903 -u darkcoinaddress-p x -k darkcoin --debug -v --gpu-engine 750 --gpu-memclock 1100 --shaders 128

I tried to lower to gpu engine and gpu memclock below factory level, without success.

any ideas? Thx in advance ....

still no solution, cmon guys, any suggestion?

try to put -k darkcoin just after sgminer.exe . But I think it is not possible to mine with nvidia, just ati.

Hi,

I'm using sgminer with my nvidia cards.

Try this:

Quote

setx GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT 100
setx GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS 1
sgminer.exe --kernel darkcoin -o stratum+tcp://www.drkpool.com:3333 -u user.worker -p x -g 2 --lookup-gap 2 -w 256 --thread-concurrency 8064 -I 13 --shaders 2048

Of course, change your options to what's best for your card. And use the latest miner.

still no success. Later today im back on linux, will try it there.

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Quote from: AlexGR on March 09, 2014, 10:13:27 AM

There are GPU farms that pull 1 GHs in scrypt, so.... it's not impossible by any measure that it's a relatively large GPU farm.

sure but that´s sick anyway^^

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There are GPU farms that pull 1 GHs in scrypt, so.... it's not impossible by any measure that it's a relatively large GPU farm.

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Quote from: DuvajBalone on March 09, 2014, 09:37:35 AM

Look at this hash rate . It is insane!wtf?

botnet lol, what else???

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Quote from: DuvajBalone on March 09, 2014, 09:01:49 AM

Quote from: sippsnapp on March 09, 2014, 08:49:59 AM

Quote from: sippsnapp on March 09, 2014, 06:07:35 AM

I still can not get my gtx9800gtx+ to work with sgminer.

Code:

set GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT=100
set GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS=1
sgminer.exe -o stratum+tcp://62.141.39.175:7903 -u darkcoinaddress-p x -k darkcoin --debug -v --gpu-engine 750 --gpu-memclock 1100 --shaders 128

I tried to lower to gpu engine and gpu memclock below factory level, without success.

any ideas? Thx in advance ....

still no solution, cmon guys, any suggestion?

try to put -k darkcoin just after sgminer.exe . But I think it is not possible to mine with nvidia, just ati.

Hi,

I'm using sgminer with my nvidia cards.

Try this:

Quote

setx GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT 100
setx GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS 1
sgminer.exe --kernel darkcoin -o stratum+tcp://www.drkpool.com:3333 -u user.worker -p x -g 2 --lookup-gap 2 -w 256 --thread-concurrency 8064 -I 13 --shaders 2048

Of course, change your options to what's best for your card. And use the latest miner.

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