Topic: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency - page 890. (Read 9723733 times)

Well, I think you'll be able to guess they are if they come from inputs of denominated amounts, like 10.001, 1.001 etc...  Despite a bunch of clueless gov people trying to stir up a stink, I don't think they'll get anywhere, LOL.  That plus a clueless reporter reporting.  In the end, it'll all be hot air when deeper minds make decisions.  I just laugh at these reports now.

Please PSA us, when you start to buy back 50000 DASH for your portofolio which i guess is now 50000 DASH short XD

thanks in advance

They're a consortium, but I just deal with one guy, he sent first for all 50 MNs, nice trust we have

Owner as in singular?
https://dash-news.de/dashtv/#value=50000

that's a handsome investment right there!

Yes I think better to leave the icetroll out on second thoughts. His response to my same post doesn't dignify an answer.

PSA: just taking down 50 masternodes for a P2P sale, Holger will have them back up shortly for their new owner

Wait a minute. Rewind ... !!!!

Mixed coins are distinguishable from unmixed!? What? Can anyone share some more information about this?

I find this whole debate very disheartening to be honest. Its all about how can we comply with whatever fucking insane laws the psychopaths in charge dream up, rather than how can we do what we want privately if we choose.

Wow, lots of hot air and little substance from some posters...
I guess it's soon Feb 5th!

1. Try to get the price down before the news of Feb 5th
2. Buy coins cheap
3. Sell after 12.1
4. ? ? ? ?
5. Profit!

or something to that effect

Charlie lee's response to me on twitter was to link to known monero troll dnaleor's post which does not even back up his claim.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13017231

https://twitter.com/SatoshiLite/status/824236353332219905?cn=cmVwbHk%3D&refsrc=email

Here are the facts charlie, I suggest reading the deep technical analysis if you want to really understand how everything went down...

My View: Dash’s Instamine Is Not A Problem
http://fintekneeks.com/my-view-dashs-pre-mine-is-not-a-problem/

Instamine FAQ
https://dashpay.atlassian.net/wiki/display/DOC/Legacy+FAQ#LegacyFAQ-WasDashInstamined?

Was The Instamine A Positive Thing For Dash?
https://dashdot.io/alpha/?page_id=118

Deep technical analysis of the early mining and distribution
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.15619552

I think the consensus was that that slack had become so toxic and conflicted that it wasn't worth a cent.

So as you correctly say...genius move

This illustrates a couple of significant points.

a. That every coin is going to support some kind of privacy or other and for that reason it's going to fade into the background as a USP soon

b. Of the above, Dash is the ONLY (yes, only) case that doesn't do it by either diversifying the coin supply into transparent/opaque = resulting in destruction of fungibility, the very thing you're trying to optimise - or with recourse to an offchain solution

i.e. it inherits the bitcoin model and supports on-chain transparent fungibility. Thats the cash model going back 10,000 years and the reason Dash could support it is because its network has a pro-active protocol that takes a holistic approach to mixing, rather than doing it transaction by transaction. i.e. it's organic and its privacy improves over time because all of the coin supply is subject to mixing on an ongoing basis. Even if you don't use the "private" option in your particular wallet, someone before you did and someone after you will. History is constantly being scrubbed, day after day.

The other beauty of this approach is that it's not centralised in the protocol. Hypothetically de-anonymise one transaction ? So what. You need to do it all again just to find one more. On the other hand, protocol-based obfuscation is an all or nothing math-based tightrope. You solve one problem and you've cracked the whole chain.

So you are saying those coins will not be affected by these new laws they are pushing? That is what we are talking about. You just listed a bunch of coins and implementations that could probably be banned altogether because they have no plans to deal with compliance. Like i said..."Dash may end up being the only anon coin accepted in regards to mainstream adoption."

Do you not care about mainstream adoption? What plan do any of those coins have to be in compliance and not regulated to only darkmarket use if these new laws come into place? I'm sure Coinfirm will still offer risk assessment lighting or no lightning, just like with dash. Evolution will have new anon solutions as well, don't know how it will work yet though.

This discussion is all speculation right now anyways but unlike all the other coins you listed Dash has proactively taken steps to avoid these kind of problems.


Edit: I believe it was Evan that explained how the new evo anon solution worked in one of this recent interviews with amanda. Maybe someone could post it or i will try and find it later.

Re Charlie Lee:
Unfair instamined launch... rrrrright...
That's really funny to hear from a guy who launched a coin with ~10000 blocks (~500.000 LTC) mined in the first 24h
https://twitter.com/UdjinM6/status/824212258695905284

Re SDC (to Solarminer):
It's not some 2nd tier tech, it's basically a colored coin (OP_RETURN) + ring sig, all on the same 1st tier nodes/blockchain. And it's yet another (custom) utxo which grows forever and can't be pruned (all txo are forever "unspent" there).

Well lets hope for the sake of my remaining XMR holdings it isn't already priced in

Thanks for the correction - CTRL-P doesn't paste, you are correct!! 

He still isn't capable of original thought. He's a copy master. Director of Engineering - sure. I am CTO of wackyD enterprises - doesn't mean shit!

He might have a point though. Maybe we should create a new coin..."the Charlie Lee way !":

 • start from scratch and dismiss the formally expressed community will to conserve it as an "original"
 • ditch the articulated protocol so...
 • no native network monetary value
 • interest on holdings
 • ...or incentivised nodes
 • ditch the idea of making crypto "user friendly" through the worlds first active-consensus based DAPI
 • ignore 10,000 years of monetary history which says that transparent fungibility is a high value monetary property and worth doing properly
 • forget the idea that a monetary "bearer instrument" (commonly known as "cash") ceases to be that unless the blockchain can scale natively
 • dismiss the problem of giving all 4 stakeholders a voice that allows them to assert their views on the asset's governance, instead of only bitcoin's 3

Only 1 problem to solve then - how would we gain any traction after creating Charlie Lee's "perfect cup of tea"  

Ah ! Get Evan's brother to list it on the world's biggest bitcoin exchange exclusive of any other altcoin - that should do it.

(Oops, Evan hasn't got such a brother - he might have to succeed on merit   But wait, @SatoshiLite has maybe we can use his He's a "fair" guy after all).

Thanks for the link, I would have missed it, commented.

Unfortunately charlie lee is very misinformed about Dash....

He said "10 people mined a million coins in the first half hour".
Even the paid trolls know that's BS.

Apparently @WWhithauer cares what @SatoshiLite thinks.

That's why he asked coblee "what are your thoughts on DASH?"

CTRL-P?  Why would coblee print out the source code?  That’s real retarded, sir.

Oh, you must be thinking of CTRL-V, which is paste, but are too much of a non-1337 lamer dumbass to complete your deflection mission without screwing up your basic, unoriginal Hurr-Durr-Litecoin-is-just-a-clone talking point.

And let's not forget that DASH is also a copy-paste job, with zero original innovation.  Apart from scamming noobs, Duffield doesn't contribute that much.

Dash's chances of getting on Coinbase aren't looking great, TBH.

That reminds me, Scamanda BJ is another person who may care what coblee thinks, given her try-hard efforts to brigade the Coinbase poll.

https://www.reddit.com/r/dashpay/comments/5lpete/coinbase_taking_votes_here_for_which_digital/

You realize coblee is Director of Engineering at Coinbase, right?  He's a computer scientist with an MIT+Google pedigree, and I bet he knows that CTRL-P doesn't Paste.   

Unfair instamined launch? like BTC and LTC? as in 3 or 4 people got the majority of the coins in the first weeks/months?

Semi-centralized? you mean like half-hole or something?

Weak privacy? strong words... no facts

Maybe you're more into beer or wine and that's ok

Weak privacy. Go on then Charlie you smart ass, Break a 8 round private send. Ohh that's right no one has to date, and you can't prove shit either. Break it or shut up litecoin fool.

How many XMR did you get paid to tweet that.