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Topic: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency - page 959. (Read 9724130 times)

newbie
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Greetings fellow traders and privacy advocates,

We've just published our Semaphor review. It's a slack alternative with a focus on privacy. There's a review option at the bottom of the article for anyone who would like to contribute their feedback for the developers to improve on any areas we might of missed. The review section doesn't require an e-mail address.

https://coinopoly.xyz/semaphor-slack-for-the-cryptocurrency-world
sr. member
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www.Mining-Dutch.nl

Back in business.!
All bugs and problems solved and mining blocks stable.!

Hope to see you back soon.
legendary
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The only person I ever convinced to use crypto who did more than just buying some to hold as an investment was a market stall owner. I initially tried to pay him with a debit card and he told me he didn't take cards, so I told him he should take Bitcoin as all he needed was to download an app to his phone and he said he'd been thinking of buying some bitcoin anyway to pay for torrents so he took my advice and started accepting bitcoin payments.

Now THAT is COOL!  And I honestly believe this is where it's at.
legendary
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We have a bucket load of ideas for such an initiative, but essentially, it involves moving away from the screen.

Um, I don't understand, could you spell it out?  You mean, stop using BCT, etc?
sr. member
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Ooh, shiny things!!
How weird.... it doesn't make sense!  I have just used Kraken's contact form to ask them.  Let's see what they say.
legendary
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I've just sent € funds to Kraken to buy Bitcoin in order that I can transfer it to Polo and buy some Dash - and saw that Kraken has already added ZEC to their offer!  They have ZEC/USD, ZEC/EUR, ZEC/CAD, ZEC/GBP, ZEC/JPY,..... yet I'm still having to transact via BTC in order to buy Dash with my euros!  Can anyone explain why Kraken hasn't added Dash already and whether anybody is working on this?  It seems a bit lame that Dash isn't there when ZEC is there from launch...

This is one I never could figure out either. They have several coins I've never even heard of, but not DASH. I used to think they were scared of the privacy-centric nature of DASH, but since they've added Zcoin, I can only assume they have some personal animus against us. Does anybody have any idea what it could be?

It just doesn't make any sense...

Common sense tells me that exchanges generally don't care about distribution, "fairness" or developer intentions. They are interested in 2 things: trading volume and security. So if the trading fees are worth the trouble of adding another asset and if it doesn't compromise security they should do it.

Historically, Dash has had the lowest trading volume of all top 10 alts so this might be the cause. I suppose the recent BTC-e listing happened because they expected some kind of high-volume action to happen soon. But seems like they were wrong and another coin was pumped (and dumped) instead.

See, you're exactly right with respect to what you'd *think* would happen. But let's look at what actually has happened:

Kraken trades Stellar Lumens, with $76,000 total volume daily
Kraken trades Iconomi, with $191,000 total volume daily
Kraken trades Augur, with $450,000 total volume daily
Kraken DOES NOT TRADE Dash, with $1,100,000 total volume daily

Granted, I'm using the last 24 hours' trade volume as my "total volume daily" measurement, but it should be good enough for my purposes. Dash has a trading volume up to FIFTEEN TIMES GREATER than some of the alts Kraken trades.

The decision to incorporate those alts and not Dash is economically irrational, which means there must be something outside of economics at play here.

(Bitfinex is similar, with several low-volume alts but no Dash. They delisted us and then added coins with a fraction of our daily volume.)
legendary
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hero member
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Cryptorials.io
ShakePay Launches Dash Debit Card: Q&A w/ Founder Jean Amiouny

https://youtu.be/y3eco7GkrpU



Yah, that's 3 levels of middle men.  Shakepay, Their exchange to BTC, then something like Coinbase to bank.  Why should we accept this?  That's probably 3% minimum you have to pay to accept Dash!  Where is the savings.  Savings enough to even bother with all this shit?  We need to bring this down to one exchange that will take Dash, turn it into Fiat and deposit it into your bank.  Get rid of all the middle men.  And we need to do it ASAP or we will not survive.

We need to provide a nice carrot to entice a group ripe for need, and I say it's the small merchant, the ones that set up shop at conventions, flea markets and etsy that we should be going after first (hell, that's EXACTLY the people Paypal started out with, and have now been raping!)  All these middle men aren't needed.  What we need is a Dash to fiat exchange that accepts IX, can convert to fiat immediately and send it off automatically to their bank account.  One step, not 3/4 steps.  And make it so they can CHOOSE which exchange they want to use.

I'm not saying don't allow other companies come up with services, but I am saying we have to be competitive against all other coins, or we will lose our lead.  And we do need to stop playing favorites in my opinion.  We are creating monopolies which will bite us in the ass in the future, and kill the whole reason why cryptos exist in the first place.  I can see these 3rd party solutions being useful for big industry some day, but the little guy, the lowest merchant is the one who is going to make or break crypto, I promise you.

'I say it's the small merchant, the ones that set up shop at conventions, flea markets and etsy that we should be going after first . . . '

Wow! Us IndiaMikeZulu guys have been arguing this case since we undertook to introduce cryptos 'cold' to an entire town late 2013/early 2014.

We have a bucket load of ideas for such an initiative, but essentially, it involves moving away from the screen.

[Got news about bullion purchases with cryptos in Australia shortly.]

The only person I ever convinced to use crypto who did more than just buying some to hold as an investment was a market stall owner. I initially tried to pay him with a debit card and he told me he didn't take cards, so I told him he should take Bitcoin as all he needed was to download an app to his phone and he said he'd been thinking of buying some bitcoin anyway to pay for torrents so he took my advice and started accepting bitcoin payments.
IMZ
legendary
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ShakePay Launches Dash Debit Card: Q&A w/ Founder Jean Amiouny

https://youtu.be/y3eco7GkrpU



Yah, that's 3 levels of middle men.  Shakepay, Their exchange to BTC, then something like Coinbase to bank.  Why should we accept this?  That's probably 3% minimum you have to pay to accept Dash!  Where is the savings.  Savings enough to even bother with all this shit?  We need to bring this down to one exchange that will take Dash, turn it into Fiat and deposit it into your bank.  Get rid of all the middle men.  And we need to do it ASAP or we will not survive.

We need to provide a nice carrot to entice a group ripe for need, and I say it's the small merchant, the ones that set up shop at conventions, flea markets and etsy that we should be going after first (hell, that's EXACTLY the people Paypal started out with, and have now been raping!)  All these middle men aren't needed.  What we need is a Dash to fiat exchange that accepts IX, can convert to fiat immediately and send it off automatically to their bank account.  One step, not 3/4 steps.  And make it so they can CHOOSE which exchange they want to use.

I'm not saying don't allow other companies come up with services, but I am saying we have to be competitive against all other coins, or we will lose our lead.  And we do need to stop playing favorites in my opinion.  We are creating monopolies which will bite us in the ass in the future, and kill the whole reason why cryptos exist in the first place.  I can see these 3rd party solutions being useful for big industry some day, but the little guy, the lowest merchant is the one who is going to make or break crypto, I promise you.

'I say it's the small merchant, the ones that set up shop at conventions, flea markets and etsy that we should be going after first . . . '

Wow! Us IndiaMikeZulu guys have been arguing this case since we undertook to introduce cryptos 'cold' to an entire town late 2013/early 2014.

We have a bucket load of ideas for such an initiative, but essentially, it involves moving away from the screen.

[Got news about bullion purchases with cryptos in Australia shortly.]
legendary
Activity: 1260
Merit: 1001
Many New Proposals are up
Please Vote !


https://www.dashcentral.org/budget

What is…:
https://dashpay.atlassian.net/wiki/x/HgCD


'

Yes, please vote! There is 1100 unallocated DASH this budget cycle. The following proposals do not yet have the votes to pass. I'm not saying to vote for them, but if you haven't voted yet, you might take a look:

Barcelona Bitcoin Meetup
Dash Community
Odoo DASH crypto module
For the Community

+1 to this, and if you're checking out what's available to vote for, please consider voting for the Odoo integration of Dash!!!
legendary
Activity: 1260
Merit: 1001
ShakePay Launches Dash Debit Card: Q&A w/ Founder Jean Amiouny

https://youtu.be/y3eco7GkrpU



Yah, that's 3 levels of middle men.  Shakepay, Their exchange to BTC, then something like Coinbase to bank.  Why should we accept this?  That's probably 3% minimum you have to pay to accept Dash!  Where is the savings.  Savings enough to even bother with all this shit?  We need to bring this down to one exchange that will take Dash, turn it into Fiat and deposit it into your bank.  Get rid of all the middle men.  And we need to do it ASAP or we will not survive.

We need to provide a nice carrot to entice a group ripe for need, and I say it's the small merchant, the ones that set up shop at conventions, flea markets and etsy that we should be going after first (hell, that's EXACTLY the people Paypal started out with, and have now been raping!)  All these middle men aren't needed.  What we need is a Dash to fiat exchange that accepts IX, can convert to fiat immediately and send it off automatically to their bank account.  One step, not 3/4 steps.  And make it so they can CHOOSE which exchange they want to use.

I'm not saying don't allow other companies come up with services, but I am saying we have to be competitive against all other coins, or we will lose our lead.  And we do need to stop playing favorites in my opinion.  We are creating monopolies which will bite us in the ass in the future, and kill the whole reason why cryptos exist in the first place.  I can see these 3rd party solutions being useful for big industry some day, but the little guy, the lowest merchant is the one who is going to make or break crypto, I promise you.
hero member
Activity: 690
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I've just sent € funds to Kraken to buy Bitcoin in order that I can transfer it to Polo and buy some Dash - and saw that Kraken has already added ZEC to their offer!  They have ZEC/USD, ZEC/EUR, ZEC/CAD, ZEC/GBP, ZEC/JPY,..... yet I'm still having to transact via BTC in order to buy Dash with my euros!  Can anyone explain why Kraken hasn't added Dash already and whether anybody is working on this?  It seems a bit lame that Dash isn't there when ZEC is there from launch...

This is one I never could figure out either. They have several coins I've never even heard of, but not DASH. I used to think they were scared of the privacy-centric nature of DASH, but since they've added Zcoin, I can only assume they have some personal animus against us. Does anybody have any idea what it could be?

It just doesn't make any sense...

Common sense tells me that exchanges generally don't care about distribution, "fairness" or developer intentions. They are interested in 2 things: trading volume and security. So if the trading fees are worth the trouble of adding another asset and if it doesn't compromise security they should do it.

Historically, Dash has had the lowest trading volume of all top 10 alts so this might be the cause. I suppose the recent BTC-e listing happened because they expected some kind of high-volume action to happen soon. But seems like they were wrong and another coin was pumped (and dumped) instead.
legendary
Activity: 2548
Merit: 1245

Evan D is prepping for his Dash presentation @ LaBitConf Buenos Aires - 5th Nov 10 am ; )

http://www.labitconf.com/blog/speakers/evan-duffield/

"Evan Duffield has been developing software since I was 15,"  Huh

ahhh, a riddle .. i like it. If writer of that article was 15 since Evan Duffield has been developing software, how old is writer now ?  Roll Eyes
legendary
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My prediction of the week : in a few weeks Dash will rank number 5 and consolidate on that position.

legendary
Activity: 1120
Merit: 1000
I've just sent € funds to Kraken to buy Bitcoin in order that I can transfer it to Polo and buy some Dash - and saw that Kraken has already added ZEC to their offer!  They have ZEC/USD, ZEC/EUR, ZEC/CAD, ZEC/GBP, ZEC/JPY,..... yet I'm still having to transact via BTC in order to buy Dash with my euros!  Can anyone explain why Kraken hasn't added Dash already and whether anybody is working on this?  It seems a bit lame that Dash isn't there when ZEC is there from launch...

This is one I never could figure out either. They have several coins I've never even heard of, but not DASH. I used to think they were scared of the privacy-centric nature of DASH, but since they've added Zcoin, I can only assume they have some personal animus against us. Does anybody have any idea what it could be?

It just doesn't make any sense...
legendary
Activity: 1120
Merit: 1000
Many New Proposals are up
Please Vote !


https://www.dashcentral.org/budget

What is…:
https://dashpay.atlassian.net/wiki/x/HgCD


'

Yes, please vote! There is 1100 unallocated DASH this budget cycle. The following proposals do not yet have the votes to pass. I'm not saying to vote for them, but if you haven't voted yet, you might take a look:

Barcelona Bitcoin Meetup
Dash Community
Odoo DASH crypto module
For the Community
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
Ooh, shiny things!!
I've just sent € funds to Kraken to buy Bitcoin in order that I can transfer it to Polo and buy some Dash - and saw that Kraken has already added ZEC to their offer!  They have ZEC/USD, ZEC/EUR, ZEC/CAD, ZEC/GBP, ZEC/JPY,..... yet I'm still having to transact via BTC in order to buy Dash with my euros!  Can anyone explain why Kraken hasn't added Dash already and whether anybody is working on this?  It seems a bit lame that Dash isn't there when ZEC is there from launch...
legendary
Activity: 3066
Merit: 1188

Evan D is prepping for his Dash presentation @ LaBitConf Buenos Aires - 5th Nov 10 am ; )

http://www.labitconf.com/blog/speakers/evan-duffield/

"Evan Duffield has been developing software since I was 15,"  Huh
legendary
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IMZ
legendary
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' . . . this gaping hole that isn't being worked on at all.  That is merchant integration.'

If you're DASH and in Australia and wanna work on merchant adoption/trading stuff, PM me.

Mark
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