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mathuo 444

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Concerning AI. Sometimes it is romaticized or, on the contrary, dramatized (Skaynet, etc.). What needs to be understood that at that level at which technologies are now,we are not talking about about the true artificial intelligence, it is more about the algorythms which FIND REGULARITIES in the best way possible.

It's just perfect for trading.. to find patterns, regularities between a set of factors and on this basis to make the forecast

I have thought that if only neuronets work at the closed exchange, without intervention of the human auction - at some moment the auction can be stabilized and and get to a tag of "0.0001%" up and down because for them there will be no data input as news, the action potential, panic sale, etc.

It is important that in an environment of a neuronet people trade.
Maybe that's why the existing auction doesn't really advertize AI.

That's right!

If someone wins, someone must lose.

If all have identical algorithms, then as a result nobody will win (and won't lose) in the long term

And that's our next benefit — the open constructor of machine learning. And the community constantly improves models of forecasting and suggesting/selling them to traders

Now I have understood your project completely!
I like it a lot. Thank you for an explanation.

thus we don't close technology on ourselves completely, we build an infrastructure

Thank you for questions, it was a pleasure to explain what we are working on!

mathuo 444

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Quote from: JoshNewman on December 18, 2017, 07:27:02 AM

Quote from: mathuo 444 on December 18, 2017, 07:22:50 AM

Quote from: JoshNewman on December 18, 2017, 07:19:12 AM

Quote from: mathuo 444 on December 18, 2017, 07:16:45 AM

Concerning AI. Sometimes it is romaticized or, on the contrary, dramatized (Skaynet, etc.). What needs to be understood that at that level at which technologies are now,we are not talking about about the true artificial intelligence, it is more about the algorythms which FIND REGULARITIES in the best way possible.

It's just perfect for trading.. to find patterns, regularities between a set of factors and on this basis to make the forecast

I have thought that if only neuronets work at the closed exchange, without intervention of the human auction - at some moment the auction can be stabilized and and get to a tag of "0.0001%" up and down because for them there will be no data input as news, the action potential, panic sale, etc.

It is important that in an environment of a neuronet people trade.
Maybe that's why the existing auction doesn't really advertize AI.

That's right!

If someone wins, someone must lose.

If all have identical algorithms, then as a result nobody will win (and won't lose) in the long term

And that's our next benefit — the open constructor of machine learning. And the community constantly improves models of forecasting and suggesting/selling them to traders

Now I have understood your project completely!
I like it a lot. Thank you for an explanation.

thus we don't close technology on ourselves completely, we build an infrastructure

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Quote from: mathuo 444 on December 18, 2017, 07:22:50 AM

Quote from: JoshNewman on December 18, 2017, 07:19:12 AM

Quote from: mathuo 444 on December 18, 2017, 07:16:45 AM

Concerning AI. Sometimes it is romaticized or, on the contrary, dramatized (Skaynet, etc.). What needs to be understood that at that level at which technologies are now,we are not talking about about the true artificial intelligence, it is more about the algorythms which FIND REGULARITIES in the best way possible.

It's just perfect for trading.. to find patterns, regularities between a set of factors and on this basis to make the forecast

I have thought that if only neuronets work at the closed exchange, without intervention of the human auction - at some moment the auction can be stabilized and and get to a tag of "0.0001%" up and down because for them there will be no data input as news, the action potential, panic sale, etc.

It is important that in an environment of a neuronet people trade.
Maybe that's why the existing auction doesn't really advertize AI.

That's right!

If someone wins, someone must lose.

If all have identical algorithms, then as a result nobody will win (and won't lose) in the long term

And that's our next benefit — the open constructor of machine learning. And the community constantly improves models of forecasting and suggesting/selling them to traders

Now I have understood your project completely!
I like it a lot. Thank you for an explanation.

mathuo 444

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Activity: 112

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Quote from: JoshNewman on December 18, 2017, 07:19:12 AM

Quote from: mathuo 444 on December 18, 2017, 07:16:45 AM

Concerning AI. Sometimes it is romaticized or, on the contrary, dramatized (Skaynet, etc.). What needs to be understood that at that level at which technologies are now,we are not talking about about the true artificial intelligence, it is more about the algorythms which FIND REGULARITIES in the best way possible.

It's just perfect for trading.. to find patterns, regularities between a set of factors and on this basis to make the forecast

I have thought that if only neuronets work at the closed exchange, without intervention of the human auction - at some moment the auction can be stabilized and and get to a tag of "0.0001%" up and down because for them there will be no data input as news, the action potential, panic sale, etc.

It is important that in an environment of a neuronet people trade.
Maybe that's why the existing auction doesn't really advertize AI.

That's right!

If someone wins, someone must lose.

If all have identical algorithms, then as a result nobody will win (and won't lose) in the long term

And that's our next benefit — the open constructor of machine learning. And the community constantly improves models of forecasting and suggesting/selling them to traders

JoshNewman

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Quote from: mathuo 444 on December 18, 2017, 07:16:45 AM

Concerning AI. Sometimes it is romaticized or, on the contrary, dramatized (Skaynet, etc.). What needs to be understood that at that level at which technologies are now,we are not talking about about the true artificial intelligence, it is more about the algorythms which FIND REGULARITIES in the best way possible.

It's just perfect for trading.. to find patterns, regularities between a set of factors and on this basis to make the forecast

I have thought that if only neuronets work at the closed exchange, without intervention of the human auction - at some moment the auction can be stabilized and and get to a tag of "0.0001%" up and down because for them there will be no data input as news, the action potential, panic sale, etc.

It is important that in an environment of a neuronet people trade.
Maybe that's why the existing auction doesn't really advertize AI.

mathuo 444

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Activity: 112

Merit: 10

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Concerning AI. Sometimes it is romaticized or, on the contrary, dramatized (Skaynet, etc.). What needs to be understood that at that level at which technologies are now,we are not talking about about the true artificial intelligence, it is more about the algorythms which FIND REGULARITIES in the best way possible.

It's just perfect for trading.. to find patterns, regularities between a set of factors and on this basis to make the forecast

mathuo 444

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Quote from: JoshNewman on December 18, 2017, 07:11:29 AM

Quote from: mathuo 444 on December 18, 2017, 07:09:13 AM

Quote from: JoshNewman on December 18, 2017, 07:03:08 AM

Quote from: mathuo 444 on December 18, 2017, 05:55:45 AM

Quote from: JoshNewman on December 18, 2017, 05:45:00 AM

Quote from: mathuo 444 on December 18, 2017, 05:34:22 AM

It's very frustrating for us that currently most of the interest to ICOs is kinda speculative. It's a rare situations when people are really interested in the technology. That's why we are so happy when people ask us tech questions.

We put so much effort into this development and we are keen on it! Thats why we want to tell about it, share with everyone and promote!It's like our child, you know

You are right! Most of the ICO are just words, some doubtful people and projects that clearly can't be implemented.

Neural networks are proving their effectiveness with each new day. And I am not sirprised by the decision to take this tech in trading.

But I still have a questiong - how is it going to train?

The network doesn't know that the aim is to get biggest numbers. Maybe, while training, it will decide that the aim is to get to zero.

Yes, using AI in trading is not a new thing. You can find lots of references to many reasearches in our whitepaper. But the real usage has begun not so long ago. Big hedge fonds are already using AI for themselves, but it's a closed technology.

Or there will be an attempt to let it know the behavior of graphs due to the form of Elliot, the concept "support" and "resistance" value?

But there is no open tool for mass use meanwhile.

Concerning training, you are not quite right here. The neuronet has a purpose – to maximize profit and for achievement of this purpose they will learn and improve the forecast with each day

So our concepts as "Elliot's waves" and psychology will be unfamiliar to it. It will come to its own statistical conclusions. Interesting..

Regarding the "let it know" thing.. that's just the point! It's not to give anything(except the entering data), it will just need tons of historical data at which the network will study itself and will begin to see regularities some of which can't be even clear to people.

Yes, approximately so

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Quote from: mathuo 444 on December 18, 2017, 07:09:13 AM

Quote from: JoshNewman on December 18, 2017, 07:03:08 AM

Quote from: mathuo 444 on December 18, 2017, 05:55:45 AM

Quote from: JoshNewman on December 18, 2017, 05:45:00 AM

Quote from: mathuo 444 on December 18, 2017, 05:34:22 AM

It's very frustrating for us that currently most of the interest to ICOs is kinda speculative. It's a rare situations when people are really interested in the technology. That's why we are so happy when people ask us tech questions.

We put so much effort into this development and we are keen on it! Thats why we want to tell about it, share with everyone and promote!It's like our child, you know

You are right! Most of the ICO are just words, some doubtful people and projects that clearly can't be implemented.

Neural networks are proving their effectiveness with each new day. And I am not sirprised by the decision to take this tech in trading.

But I still have a questiong - how is it going to train?

The network doesn't know that the aim is to get biggest numbers. Maybe, while training, it will decide that the aim is to get to zero.

Yes, using AI in trading is not a new thing. You can find lots of references to many reasearches in our whitepaper. But the real usage has begun not so long ago. Big hedge fonds are already using AI for themselves, but it's a closed technology.

Or there will be an attempt to let it know the behavior of graphs due to the form of Elliot, the concept "support" and "resistance" value?

But there is no open tool for mass use meanwhile.

Concerning training, you are not quite right here. The neuronet has a purpose – to maximize profit and for achievement of this purpose they will learn and improve the forecast with each day

So our concepts as "Elliot's waves" and psychology will be unfamiliar to it. It will come to its own statistical conclusions. Interesting..

mathuo 444

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Quote from: JoshNewman on December 18, 2017, 07:03:08 AM

Quote from: mathuo 444 on December 18, 2017, 05:55:45 AM

Quote from: JoshNewman on December 18, 2017, 05:45:00 AM

Quote from: mathuo 444 on December 18, 2017, 05:34:22 AM

It's very frustrating for us that currently most of the interest to ICOs is kinda speculative. It's a rare situations when people are really interested in the technology. That's why we are so happy when people ask us tech questions.

We put so much effort into this development and we are keen on it! Thats why we want to tell about it, share with everyone and promote!It's like our child, you know

You are right! Most of the ICO are just words, some doubtful people and projects that clearly can't be implemented.

Neural networks are proving their effectiveness with each new day. And I am not sirprised by the decision to take this tech in trading.

But I still have a questiong - how is it going to train?

The network doesn't know that the aim is to get biggest numbers. Maybe, while training, it will decide that the aim is to get to zero.

Yes, using AI in trading is not a new thing. You can find lots of references to many reasearches in our whitepaper. But the real usage has begun not so long ago. Big hedge fonds are already using AI for themselves, but it's a closed technology.

Or there will be an attempt to let it know the behavior of graphs due to the form of Elliot, the concept "support" and "resistance" value?

But there is no open tool for mass use meanwhile.

Concerning training, you are not quite right here. The neuronet has a purpose – to maximize profit and for achievement of this purpose they will learn and improve the forecast with each day

JoshNewman

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Activity: 21

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Quote from: mathuo 444 on December 18, 2017, 05:55:45 AM

Quote from: JoshNewman on December 18, 2017, 05:45:00 AM

Quote from: mathuo 444 on December 18, 2017, 05:34:22 AM

It's very frustrating for us that currently most of the interest to ICOs is kinda speculative. It's a rare situations when people are really interested in the technology. That's why we are so happy when people ask us tech questions.

We put so much effort into this development and we are keen on it! Thats why we want to tell about it, share with everyone and promote!It's like our child, you know

You are right! Most of the ICO are just words, some doubtful people and projects that clearly can't be implemented.

Neural networks are proving their effectiveness with each new day. And I am not sirprised by the decision to take this tech in trading.

But I still have a questiong - how is it going to train?

The network doesn't know that the aim is to get biggest numbers. Maybe, while training, it will decide that the aim is to get to zero.

Yes, using AI in trading is not a new thing. You can find lots of references to many reasearches in our whitepaper. But the real usage has begun not so long ago. Big hedge fonds are already using AI for themselves, but it's a closed technology.

Or there will be an attempt to let it know the behavior of graphs due to the form of Elliot, the concept "support" and "resistance" value?

mathuo 444

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Quote from: JoshNewman on December 18, 2017, 05:45:00 AM

Quote from: mathuo 444 on December 18, 2017, 05:34:22 AM

It's very frustrating for us that currently most of the interest to ICOs is kinda speculative. It's a rare situations when people are really interested in the technology. That's why we are so happy when people ask us tech questions.

We put so much effort into this development and we are keen on it! Thats why we want to tell about it, share with everyone and promote!It's like our child, you know

You are right! Most of the ICO are just words, some doubtful people and projects that clearly can't be implemented.

Neural networks are proving their effectiveness with each new day. And I am not sirprised by the decision to take this tech in trading.

But I still have a questiong - how is it going to train?

The network doesn't know that the aim is to get biggest numbers. Maybe, while training, it will decide that the aim is to get to zero.

Yes, using AI in trading is not a new thing. You can find lots of references to many reasearches in our whitepaper. But the real usage has begun not so long ago. Big hedge fonds are already using AI for themselves, but it's a closed technology.

JoshNewman

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Quote from: mathuo 444 on December 18, 2017, 05:34:22 AM

It's very frustrating for us that currently most of the interest to ICOs is kinda speculative. It's a rare situations when people are really interested in the technology. That's why we are so happy when people ask us tech questions.

We put so much effort into this development and we are keen on it! Thats why we want to tell about it, share with everyone and promote!It's like our child, you know

You are right! Most of the ICO are just words, some doubtful people and projects that clearly can't be implemented.

Neural networks are proving their effectiveness with each new day. And I am not sirprised by the decision to take this tech in trading.

But I still have a questiong - how is it going to train?

The network doesn't know that the aim is to get biggest numbers. Maybe, while training, it will decide that the aim is to get to zero.

mathuo 444

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It's very frustrating for us that currently most of the interest to ICOs is kinda speculative. It's a rare situations when people are really interested in the technology. That's why we are so happy when people ask us tech questions.

We put so much effort into this development and we are keen on it! Thats why we want to tell about it, share with everyone and promote!It's like our child, you know

mathuo 444

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Activity: 112

Merit: 10

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Quote from: JoshNewman on December 18, 2017, 05:29:43 AM

Quote from: mathuo 444 on December 18, 2017, 05:26:42 AM

Quote from: JoshNewman on December 18, 2017, 05:23:40 AM

I expected that there was already a written scripts that can assist or even replace a human-trader. But in some out-of-box situations a script can fail and one can lose money. But a neural network that can do self-training that's so exciting! It's an interesting concept.
Did I understand correctly that in your system, the neural network will be working on the back end - analyzing static data and giving recommendations - where to invest and what is risky?

You are quite right. The neural networks and other models of the machine learning will be constantly training and bettering their forecasting

Thanks for your reply! You project has a great potential. I'll keep my tokens with you, guys Wink

Thanks! I'll be happy to answer some other questions of yours

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Quote from: mathuo 444 on December 18, 2017, 05:26:42 AM

Quote from: JoshNewman on December 18, 2017, 05:23:40 AM

I expected that there was already a written scripts that can assist or even replace a human-trader. But in some out-of-box situations a script can fail and one can lose money. But a neural network that can do self-training that's so exciting! It's an interesting concept.
Did I understand correctly that in your system, the neural network will be working on the back end - analyzing static data and giving recommendations - where to invest and what is risky?

You are quite right. The neural networks and other models of the machine learning will be constantly training and bettering their forecasting

Thanks for your reply! You project has a great potential. I'll keep my tokens with you, guys Wink

mathuo 444

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Quote from: JoshNewman on December 18, 2017, 05:23:40 AM

I expected that there was already a written scripts that can assist or even replace a human-trader. But in some out-of-box situations a script can fail and one can lose money. But a neural network that can do self-training that's so exciting! It's an interesting concept.
Did I understand correctly that in your system, the neural network will be working on the back end - analyzing static data and giving recommendations - where to invest and what is risky?

You are quite right. The neural networks and other models of the machine learning will be constantly training and bettering their forecasting

JoshNewman

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I expected that there was already a written scripts that can assist or even replace a human-trader. But in some out-of-box situations a script can fail and one can lose money. But a neural network that can do self-training that's so exciting! It's an interesting concept.
Did I understand correctly that in your system, the neural network will be working on the back end - analyzing static data and giving recommendations - where to invest and what is risky?

mathuo 444

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