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That is a very cute conspiracy theory. The hidden double agent out to ruin the corporation from within right? You're sticking to that story right? If you had been here from day 3 you would have seen my posts encouraging the devs, making deals with the user ATX SILVER who gave me 5000 EAC. But you see, you're as silly as the notions you're trying to spew. Hypocrisy because I am not taking bullshit excuses from the devs? The same exact excuses that we got when we dipped from 220 satoshi to 120 satoshi? Remember?

Yeah, if I wanted to shill for dark coin, there are better ways to do it. The dev is more active over there than here. He includes the community and guess where dark coin is now after being just 1 month in the game? that's right number 18 on the market cap.

Why? because the community rallied around the dev and complimented his efforts along with theirs. So you can keep up with your poignant observations of the enemy mole within.  

What deal?  You gave ATXSilver your Cryptsy Trade Key when he was giving away 5000 EAC to anyone who provided it.  That's a giveaway, not a deal.  Also, where is this "encouragement" that you speak of?  All you've done is criticize Earthcoin for taking on a hippie vibe by supporting certain charities.

You do realize that your entire post history is auditable, right?

Oh look, stop jumping jethro looked through my history. Did you go back far enough? you didn't did you? you just typed ATX silver and stopped there you fucking ignoramus. I gave him my trade key after referring him on cryptsy. That was the deal. Referring him gets him some cryptsy points for every trade I make as the referrer.

Go ahead, please tell me more about my disparaging comments. Why did we get delisted from BTC 38? Because the devs were promoting this coin as a hippie dippie bullshit coin and that is the truth. The Chinese saw this and stayed away. There is no marke in charity and I'll keep saying that until you get it into your thick skull. THERE IS NO MONEY IN CHARITY. DONATIONS DOES NOT MEAN ADOPTION.

But since you've been here from day 3, what contribution have you made? What criticism have you made? Nothing? Then shut the fuck up.

I read your entire history guy.  You literally only have 8 pages worth of history, it wasn't that long of a read.

I'm not sure why we were listed from BTC-38, but very few people do for that matter.  And you're not one of them, that's mere speculation.  And yes, I have been here since day 3, and I've made quite a few contributions, it's all in my history.  Feel free to take a read if you like.


Lol you pedantic arse. So what was your conclusion after reading my history? That I am a dark coin double agent? Or has your back up brain cell kicked into over drive?

Since you love reading threads, go through this threads and you will find out that we were delisted from BTC-38 due to the devs marketing AND the heavy premine, two issues which have slowly led to the decline of this coin.

You're persistent, I'll give you that.  No, I don't think you're a double agent, I have no interest in name calling or conspiracy theories, I'm working based off of observation.  I think that you're a person who started off heavily skeptical about an altcoin and has since stuck with it due to it's increase in price.  Which is fine, we all drink the kool-aid a bit in some way when we find aspects of an altcoin that attract us.  However, I wonder how you'd react if Darkcoin were to lose 4x it's value?  Based on your history, you'd call for the heads of all the devs, become hypercritical of what you think they did wrong, and probably find your next profitable venture to latch on to, much like you're doing here.  You're a very vocal, somewhat pessimistic investor.  There have been various ones in here, and I'm not saying that it's a bad thing, because I think it's good to always ask questions.  There's just a better way to do it, that's all.  When arguments are enveloped with reason rather than anger, they're more effective.

Since I've been here, I've read every page in this thread, and I remember the delist from BTC-38.  As I recall, it was a mystery drop that had rumors surrounding it, the strongest of which was that the devs weren't willing to provide a sufficient amount of the premine to appease the admins of BTC-38.  However, I don't recall any official statements release, and it was all speculation.  If I may, I just want to ask that you don't take your speculative thoughts and spin them off as fact.
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What makes you think incryptex will effect the price so much exactly?

Well, if the coin gets an exchange with usd/eac option, of course it will increase the price. Furthermore, there is a burning desire for a (truly)fast, reliable and professional looking exchange which i dont think has been made yet (Excluding btce, would say gox too but you all know how that turned out Cheesy).  

Gox was always a poorly designed exchange but like bitcoin, it was the first so reaps the rewards, i doubt it will die as much as everyone wants it too.

As for incryptex, they haven't even mentioned doing USD purchases so far that i've seen anyway, that would mean they have to be a proper company and register with FinCen or they'll have the same problems as Gox does with withdrawing funds.  Why do you think Crypsy doesn't do USD stuff yet?  I'm sure they are having problems with FinCen as well, and I believe the guy who runs Cryptsy has a legal background too.  The people running incryptex are going to have to put a pretty decent investment down for the hardware or renting for that site because they've picked some high volume coins to trade on launch, pretty much the worst ones, all the popular ones.  Doge coin alone will stress that exchange on its own.  Remember the lag on exchanges like Cryptsy when Doge hits peak volume?

They have mentioned earlier the usd option for eac, but i am merely speculating wether it will actually happen (hence the "if"). Yes, they will have to invest in the site properly to make it work, but if they do it will be huge! I think cryptsy is busy with the coins they have and wouldn't be able to focus on an usd option with the coding problems they already have.
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"to endure to achieve"
Currently we have 120+ coins incl. bitcoin.
They are all trying to win the hearts of - oh yes - whom?
Miners and those investors who drop by bitcointalk and get tempted to invest. But that's almost it.
The big masses on this planet which all coin developers aspire to win over - they live happily along without knowing anything about virtual currencies taking over the world.

Only a brand new technology and coin will be able to pull it off - but it won't be any of the existing ones. It will have to be much much more than a coin with a vision and an inside community mostly consisting of miners.

The winner will be the currency which can present itself fully ready, with features that appeal to the masses and that they can easily implement in their daily life as a substitute to paper money.

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I don't know why everybody just comes blindly to the defense of EAC, why doesn't anybody else have concerns about the things mentioned?  I've never personally said this coins is dead, even if it hit 1 satoshi and the devs ran off, even if the pre-mine was gone, well i'd probably be happier if it was gone at least then at least when the price rose i wouldnt be thinking how long before it gets dumped down into the ground again but the coin would still live on.  It would just be nice if it was all in 1 wallet somewhere we could all see it etc. bounties and a ledger on the main page of this thread etc. Is that really too much to ask for?

It would be nice if we knew who the official devs were seriously, an offical list of devs and an list of comunity devs because i know some people have been doing some great work on EAC but i dont think any of them are "offical" devs right?  is there only 2 devs, are there more?  There should be an official list somewhere.  Oh thats right they cant give us their real names etc. because the government will be after them, i mean whoever made that comment its just ridiculous and if true then the very public profiles of the bitcoin foundation team would put them in jeperdy.  The simple fact is that if the bitcoin devs were anonymous then bitcoin wouldnt have the investor confidence it does now, although its shaken at the minute, without their very public support in this current crisis bitcoin would be doomed.  People can barely stand not knowing who satoshi nakamoto is and his 110,000 btc wallet thats never been touched.

These last few days have been frustrating as hell, i feel like banging my head against a brick wall.  Well done to the people who've done things for this coin you should be rewarded for your work.  The guy who was promoting EAC for the Chinese investors should be thanked too, i dont know thats bull or not but china is where the money is at these days so we need a trusted Chinese liaison for this coin.  The devs need to delegate community liaison us too, every so often this thread just goes completely dead it doesnt inspire confidence, not when the first 400 pages of this thread were pretty much within the first month after launch

I do want to start by saying that I'm not blindly coming to the defense of EAC.  I admittedly was shaken as well by the price plummet, but such is investing, that's how it works sometimes.  I do think that there are things that the Earthcoin team could be doing better, ESPECIALLY when it comes to communication, and I've PMed them directly about it on multiple occasions since I've been here.  EAC's current price doesn't change the fact that it has potential, and cryptozark's recent post was encouraging and a step in the right direction to say the least.

I don't agree that posting the exact location of the premine is wise.  That would simply prompt criticism of every little micro transaction that occurs.  A breakdown of the current premine use might be a step in the right direction, but once again, I don't feel that's as effective of an approach.  I agree that if nothing else, an organized list of the full team is in order.  Accountability has its place, even if they use their pseudonyms.  Also, as I've stated time and time again, the Earthcoin team needs to be more visible and transparent.  I hope that we have their ears this time.

I'm frustrated too.  It would be hard not to be given EAC's current price point.  However, opportunity often comes disguised as misfortune.  If nothing else, it'll be interesting to see where EAC goes, now that it has a new floor.
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What makes you think incryptex will effect the price so much exactly?

Well, if the coin gets an exchange with usd/eac option, of course it will increase the price. Furthermore, there is a burning desire for a (truly)fast, reliable and professional looking exchange which i dont think has been made yet (Excluding btce, would say gox too but you all know how that turned out Cheesy).  

Gox was always a poorly designed exchange but like bitcoin, it was the first so reaps the rewards, i doubt it will die as much as everyone wants it too.

As for incryptex, they haven't even mentioned doing USD purchases so far that i've seen anyway, that would mean they have to be a proper company and register with FinCen or they'll have the same problems as Gox does with withdrawing funds.  Why do you think Crypsy doesn't do USD stuff yet?  I'm sure they are having problems with FinCen as well, and I believe the guy who runs Cryptsy has a legal background too.  The people running incryptex are going to have to put a pretty decent investment down for the hardware or renting for that site because they've picked some high volume coins to trade on launch, pretty much the worst ones, all the popular ones.  Doge coin alone will stress that exchange on its own.  Remember the lag on exchanges like Cryptsy when Doge hits peak volume?
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That is a very cute conspiracy theory. The hidden double agent out to ruin the corporation from within right? You're sticking to that story right? If you had been here from day 3 you would have seen my posts encouraging the devs, making deals with the user ATX SILVER who gave me 5000 EAC. But you see, you're as silly as the notions you're trying to spew. Hypocrisy because I am not taking bullshit excuses from the devs? The same exact excuses that we got when we dipped from 220 satoshi to 120 satoshi? Remember?

Yeah, if I wanted to shill for dark coin, there are better ways to do it. The dev is more active over there than here. He includes the community and guess where dark coin is now after being just 1 month in the game? that's right number 18 on the market cap.

Why? because the community rallied around the dev and complimented his efforts along with theirs. So you can keep up with your poignant observations of the enemy mole within.  

What deal?  You gave ATXSilver your Cryptsy Trade Key when he was giving away 5000 EAC to anyone who provided it.  That's a giveaway, not a deal.  Also, where is this "encouragement" that you speak of?  All you've done is criticize Earthcoin for taking on a hippie vibe by supporting certain charities.

You do realize that your entire post history is auditable, right?

Oh look, stop jumping jethro looked through my history. Did you go back far enough? you didn't did you? you just typed ATX silver and stopped there you fucking ignoramus. I gave him my trade key after referring him on cryptsy. That was the deal. Referring him gets him some cryptsy points for every trade I make as the referrer.

Go ahead, please tell me more about my disparaging comments. Why did we get delisted from BTC 38? Because the devs were promoting this coin as a hippie dippie bullshit coin and that is the truth. The Chinese saw this and stayed away. There is no marke in charity and I'll keep saying that until you get it into your thick skull. THERE IS NO MONEY IN CHARITY. DONATIONS DOES NOT MEAN ADOPTION.

But since you've been here from day 3, what contribution have you made? What criticism have you made? Nothing? Then shut the fuck up.

I read your entire history guy.  You literally only have 8 pages worth of history, it wasn't that long of a read.

I'm not sure why we were listed from BTC-38, but very few people do for that matter.  And you're not one of them, that's mere speculation.  And yes, I have been here since day 3, and I've made quite a few contributions, it's all in my history.  Feel free to take a read if you like.


Lol you pedantic arse. So what was your conclusion after reading my history? That I am a dark coin double agent? Or has your back up brain cell kicked into over drive?

Since you love reading threads, go through this threads and you will find out that we were delisted from BTC-38 due to the devs marketing AND the heavy premine, two issues which have slowly led to the decline of this coin.
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That is a very cute conspiracy theory. The hidden double agent out to ruin the corporation from within right? You're sticking to that story right? If you had been here from day 3 you would have seen my posts encouraging the devs, making deals with the user ATX SILVER who gave me 5000 EAC. But you see, you're as silly as the notions you're trying to spew. Hypocrisy because I am not taking bullshit excuses from the devs? The same exact excuses that we got when we dipped from 220 satoshi to 120 satoshi? Remember?

Yeah, if I wanted to shill for dark coin, there are better ways to do it. The dev is more active over there than here. He includes the community and guess where dark coin is now after being just 1 month in the game? that's right number 18 on the market cap.

Why? because the community rallied around the dev and complimented his efforts along with theirs. So you can keep up with your poignant observations of the enemy mole within.  

What deal?  You gave ATXSilver your Cryptsy Trade Key when he was giving away 5000 EAC to anyone who provided it.  That's a giveaway, not a deal.  Also, where is this "encouragement" that you speak of?  All you've done is criticize Earthcoin for taking on a hippie vibe by supporting certain charities.

You do realize that your entire post history is auditable, right?

Oh look, stop jumping jethro looked through my history. Did you go back far enough? you didn't did you? you just typed ATX silver and stopped there you fucking ignoramus. I gave him my trade key after referring him on cryptsy. That was the deal. Referring him gets him some cryptsy points for every trade I make as the referrer.

Go ahead, please tell me more about my disparaging comments. Why did we get delisted from BTC 38? Because the devs were promoting this coin as a hippie dippie bullshit coin and that is the truth. The Chinese saw this and stayed away. There is no marke in charity and I'll keep saying that until you get it into your thick skull. THERE IS NO MONEY IN CHARITY. DONATIONS DOES NOT MEAN ADOPTION.

But since you've been here from day 3, what contribution have you made? What criticism have you made? Nothing? Then shut the fuck up.

I read your entire history guy.  You literally only have 8 pages worth of history, it wasn't that long of a read.

I'm not sure why we were listed from BTC-38, but very few people do for that matter.  And you're not one of them, that's mere speculation.  And yes, I have been here since day 3, and I've made quite a few contributions, it's all in my history.  Feel free to take a read if you like.
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What makes you think incryptex will effect the price so much exactly?

Well, if the coin gets an exchange with usd/eac option, of course it will increase the price. Furthermore, there is a burning desire for a (truly)fast, reliable and professional looking exchange which i dont think has been made yet (Excluding btce, would say gox too but you all know how that turned out Cheesy).  
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Haha, people are so mad with the price crash Cheesy I see this as an opportunity to buy more whilst the price is still so low. Earthazaar is a nice project but the incryptex exchange is what will make earthcoin price soar if it is as promised. Anyway, earthcoin at @60 satoshi is so cheap!

What makes you think incryptex will effect the price so much exactly?

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Well, this has all been a very interesting read.

To begin, slyA, I get it.  EAC's value has fallen dramatically, very scary.  And I'm sure that you (along with a few others) are absolutely convinced that the Earthcoin Team disclosing where the premine went would quell your fears.  But would it?  Everyone wants their hand held when times get tough, to know someone is still there for them.  But here's the thing, no matter what happened to the premine, no one is going to be satisfied with the answer.  I've been here since day 3, and every single person who's brought up the premine has gone on a rant like you have, but for different reasons.  Everyone is a critic, and they're just waiting for an explanation so that they can criticize the team.  Three likely scenarios and naysayer responses:

    They dumped - Everyone abandon ship, they no longer have a vested interest in the coin.  Most common argument in the thread.  Maybe, but this argument is nullified when you consider that there are coins with NO premine that have active devs.  This argument is predicated on the previous behavior of the devs of shady coins, and people love to come in here and state that this one is no different.
    They're still in possession of a large portion of the premine - what are you doing, go promote and give bounties and stuff!  That's probably what they're doing if this is the case, but the caution they're exercising would be ignored, and emphasis would be placed on the fact that they're still holding on to it rather than what they're doing with it.  Seen this a million times in this thread.
    They've given away most of the premine for bounties and development efforts - Insert criticism on how they wasted it here.  All of a sudden, the thread becomes full of rants an criticisms about the devs incompetence, etc.


I've been here from the start, and all of the above arguments have come and gone.  The reality is, I can see why the Earthcoin Team chose not to be transparent about the day to day use of the premine, I'd opt to do the EXACT same thing that they've done.  The harsh reality is, no one in this thread gives a damn what they're doing when EAC is doing good in the market and they're making money.  These rants only happen when the coin loses value or remains stable for extended periods of time, thoughts run wild and people need to rein it in a bit.

Also, one more thing.  slyA, I've been here since day 3.  I've never seen you before.  EAC's value dropped, and you've come out of nowhere to preach about the apocalypse.  The only thing that's come out of you in the past couple of pages has been hypocritical, inflammatory, and deflationary.  And every time you've finished a tirade, you subtly drop a hint here and there:  Darkcoin.  Sounds to me like you might be playing the fear monger to poach EAC investors.  After all, why even mention Darkcoin?  That alone takes the legitimacy out of your argument, not to mention the constant assault on the team and all of its defenders.  You don't actually care about the development efforts, I've noted your lack of commentary on the new wallet and the early website release to try and answer for what the devs have been doing.  I'd dare to wager that you have an agenda here.


I don't know why everybody just comes blindly to the defense of EAC, why doesn't anybody else have concerns about the things mentioned?  I've never personally said this coins is dead, even if it hit 1 satoshi and the devs ran off, even if the pre-mine was gone, well i'd probably be happier if it was gone at least then at least when the price rose i wouldnt be thinking how long before it gets dumped down into the ground again but the coin would still live on.  It would just be nice if it was all in 1 wallet somewhere we could all see it etc. bounties and a ledger on the main page of this thread etc. Is that really too much to ask for?

It would be nice if we knew who the official devs were seriously, an offical list of devs and an list of comunity devs because i know some people have been doing some great work on EAC but i dont think any of them are "offical" devs right?  is there only 2 devs, are there more?  There should be an official list somewhere.  Oh thats right they cant give us their real names etc. because the government will be after them, i mean whoever made that comment its just ridiculous and if true then the very public profiles of the bitcoin foundation team would put them in jeperdy.  The simple fact is that if the bitcoin devs were anonymous then bitcoin wouldnt have the investor confidence it does now, although its shaken at the minute, without their very public support in this current crisis bitcoin would be doomed.  People can barely stand not knowing who satoshi nakamoto is and his 110,000 btc wallet thats never been touched.

DarkCoin is a forked Quark, lots of hashing algo's, ASIC resistant, CPU mine only etc. etc. i believe, less coins than Quarks too whoever asked.  I dont have any but did look a few weeks ago.

As for forking, I'm not exactly convinced of the anonymous nature of things like the Zerocoin proposal, this is because governments will hate it and will try to ban it from retailers use, so forking to an annon scrypt is probably not a good idea for EAC, although it is very cool concept and will be heavy adopted by the drug industry and money launderers when its launched in may im sure.  It maybe a good idea to fork to a VTC type algo in the future for ASIC resistance, still not sure if they are going to be good or bad, bad for the little guy im sure.  It does mean EAC is going down the route of a centralized currency like BTC is, with expensive ASIC server farms etc.

These last few days have been frustrating as hell, i feel like banging my head against a brick wall.  Well done to the people who've done things for this coin you should be rewarded for your work.  The guy who was promoting EAC for the Chinese investors should be thanked too, i dont know thats bull or not but china is where the money is at these days so we need a trusted Chinese liaison for this coin.  The devs need to delegate community liaison us too, every so often this thread just goes completely dead it doesnt inspire confidence, not when the first 400 pages of this thread were pretty much within the first month after launch

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That is a very cute conspiracy theory. The hidden double agent out to ruin the corporation from within right? You're sticking to that story right? If you had been here from day 3 you would have seen my posts encouraging the devs, making deals with the user ATX SILVER who gave me 5000 EAC. But you see, you're as silly as the notions you're trying to spew. Hypocrisy because I am not taking bullshit excuses from the devs? The same exact excuses that we got when we dipped from 220 satoshi to 120 satoshi? Remember?

Yeah, if I wanted to shill for dark coin, there are better ways to do it. The dev is more active over there than here. He includes the community and guess where dark coin is now after being just 1 month in the game? that's right number 18 on the market cap.

Why? because the community rallied around the dev and complimented his efforts along with theirs. So you can keep up with your poignant observations of the enemy mole within.  

What deal?  You gave ATXSilver your Cryptsy Trade Key when he was giving away 5000 EAC to anyone who provided it.  That's a giveaway, not a deal.  Also, where is this "encouragement" that you speak of?  All you've done is criticize Earthcoin for taking on a hippie vibe by supporting certain charities.

You do realize that your entire post history is auditable, right?

Oh look, stop jumping jethro looked through my history. Did you go back far enough? you didn't did you? you just typed ATX silver and stopped there you fucking ignoramus. I gave him my trade key after referring him on cryptsy. That was the deal. Referring him gets him some cryptsy points for every trade I make as the referrer.

Go ahead, please tell me more about my disparaging comments. Why did we get delisted from BTC 38? Because the devs were promoting this coin as a hippie dippie bullshit coin and that is the truth. The Chinese saw this and stayed away. There is no marke in charity and I'll keep saying that until you get it into your thick skull. THERE IS NO MONEY IN CHARITY. DONATIONS DOES NOT MEAN ADOPTION.

But since you've been here from day 3, what contribution have you made? What criticism have you made? Nothing? Then shut the fuck up.
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That is a very cute conspiracy theory. The hidden double agent out to ruin the corporation from within right? You're sticking to that story right? If you had been here from day 3 you would have seen my posts encouraging the devs, making deals with the user ATX SILVER who gave me 5000 EAC. But you see, you're as silly as the notions you're trying to spew. Hypocrisy because I am not taking bullshit excuses from the devs? The same exact excuses that we got when we dipped from 220 satoshi to 120 satoshi? Remember?

Yeah, if I wanted to shill for dark coin, there are better ways to do it. The dev is more active over there than here. He includes the community and guess where dark coin is now after being just 1 month in the game? that's right number 18 on the market cap.

Why? because the community rallied around the dev and complimented his efforts along with theirs. So you can keep up with your poignant observations of the enemy mole within.  

What deal?  You gave ATXSilver your Cryptsy Trade Key when he was giving away 5000 EAC to anyone who provided it.  That's a giveaway, not a deal.  Also, where is this "encouragement" that you speak of?  All you've done is criticize Earthcoin for taking on a hippie vibe by supporting certain charities.

You do realize that your entire post history is auditable, right?
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Please feel free to take this discussion elsewhere.  This is the Earthcoin thread.

He asked a question and I answered mate. Deal with it.
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Haha, people are so mad with the price crash Cheesy I see this as an opportunity to buy more whilst the price is still so low. Earthazaar is a nice project but the incryptex exchange is what will make earthcoin price soar if it is as promised. Anyway, earthcoin at @60 satoshi is so cheap!

Indeed. To bad i don't have any btc left to buy.  Undecided
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I've been here from the start, and all of the above arguments have come and gone.  The reality is, I can see why the Earthcoin Team chose not to be transparent about the day to day use of the premine, I'd opt to do the EXACT same thing that they've done.  The harsh reality is, no one in this thread gives a damn what they're doing when EAC is doing good in the market and they're making money.  These rants only happen when the coin loses value or remains stable for extended periods of time, thoughts run wild and people need to rein it in a bit.

Also, one more thing.  slyA, I've been here since day 3.  I've never seen you before.  EAC's value dropped, and you've come out of nowhere to preach about the apocalypse.  The only thing that's come out of you in the past couple of pages has been hypocritical, inflammatory, and deflationary.  And every time you've finished a tirade, you subtly drop a hint here and there:  Darkcoin.  Sounds to me like you might be playing the fear monger to poach EAC investors.  After all, why even mention Darkcoin?  That alone takes the legitimacy out of your argument, not to mention the constant assault on the team and all of its defenders.  You don't actually care about the development efforts, I've noted your lack of commentary on the new wallet and the early website release to try and answer for what the devs have been doing.  I'd dare to wager that you have an agenda here.

That is a very cute conspiracy theory. The hidden double agent out to ruin the corporation from within right? You're sticking to that story right? If you had been here from day 3 you would have seen my posts encouraging the devs, making deals with the user ATX SILVER who gave me 5000 EAC. But you see, you're as silly as the notions you're trying to spew. Hypocrisy because I am not taking bullshit excuses from the devs? The same exact excuses that we got when we dipped from 220 satoshi to 120 satoshi? Remember?

Yeah, if I wanted to shill for dark coin, there are better ways to do it. The dev is more active over there than here. He includes the community and guess where dark coin is now after being just 1 month in the game? that's right number 18 on the market cap.

Why? because the community rallied around the dev and complimented his efforts along with theirs. So you can keep up with your poignant observations of the enemy mole within.  
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Haha, people are so mad with the price crash Cheesy I see this as an opportunity to buy more whilst the price is still so low. Earthazaar is a nice project but the incryptex exchange is what will make earthcoin price soar if it is as promised. Anyway, earthcoin at @60 satoshi is so cheap!
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Just out of curiousity.
Let's say the premine is gone, spend or whatever. Does that mean that EarthCoin has vanished into thin air? Or is there still something to fight for?
For as most of the negative comments go regarding the premine, why waste so much energy by typing "the unfairness of them having all that money". I assume that you must have a day task in writing such messages when you are looking at let's say Apple, banks, governments or even crypto exchanges.
Ow, and and seems that I must use the word "fuck" to make my statement.


No. There fucking isn't. Happy?
Well almost. Sorry.
i would really appreciate it if you were to guide me to a coin where you spend most of your time trying to promote or actually develop for. I feel a little left in the dark when you give me no alternatives. And please don't tell me that most of your time goes to promoting http://bitcoinexaminer.org/bitcoin-is-changing-the-sex-industry-adult-way-is-the-new-cryptocurrency-friendly-platform/?

I have a meager stake in dark coin. You should check it out if you're looking for a promising alternative. And as for that link, was that supposed to bean insult? I don't get it.

Hi slyA,
Thanks I will look into that. And regarding the link, it was meant as a joke for the "fuck" part. I should not have done that. I am sorry for that.
None taken. I've been quite vulgar I must say. Apologies if that made you uncomfortable.

It did a little:)
Regarding DarkCoin, what future does that have? I am struggling with the following regarding the technology part or crypto's.
At this moment there is a real drive to make a coin as technical as possible to have something an other coin does not have. So at this moment we have coins which use different algorithems also to avoid the big mining pools. But what I don't see is why these coins will have a longer future than any of the others. The reason why I don't see it is because crypto's are evolving (and fast as i may say). Also, any crypto can upgrade its engine meaning that existing crypto's can change and follow.
What I do like (being a techno guy) is the idea to use the TOR network in combination with the coin mixing service. But if any exchange where to offer a coin translator, the mixing service has become useless. (coin translator as in I sent in coin A give a target address and out comes coin B. This also means that it has become irrelevant which coin you have as they are all interchangeable. And I do not want to try and trace those type of transfers)

So having said that, what I do think is an asset to any coin is its way to reach out to the normal people. In the long run i think that the engine of a coin will become irrelevant and its brand/feeling will last. For me it sounds like the battle between Betamax and VHS. The inferiour technology won. If I look at a brand like Apple, the main reason they are this big right now is because of the feeling people have around the product. The product itself is not that good anymore.

So these are my thoughts and I'd like it if you were to share your opinion on them.

The dev actually answered  these similar concerns here so I'll just link it https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5282966

And as for the success, you are right, what matters most is branding at the end of the day. The endless possibilities for anonymous transactions although enticing, might have to take back seat to the branding of the coin. I only hope dark coin is able to find the right balance between both aspects.

Please feel free to take this discussion elsewhere.  This is the Earthcoin thread.
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Just out of curiousity.
Let's say the premine is gone, spend or whatever. Does that mean that EarthCoin has vanished into thin air? Or is there still something to fight for?
For as most of the negative comments go regarding the premine, why waste so much energy by typing "the unfairness of them having all that money". I assume that you must have a day task in writing such messages when you are looking at let's say Apple, banks, governments or even crypto exchanges.
Ow, and and seems that I must use the word "fuck" to make my statement.


No. There fucking isn't. Happy?
Well almost. Sorry.
i would really appreciate it if you were to guide me to a coin where you spend most of your time trying to promote or actually develop for. I feel a little left in the dark when you give me no alternatives. And please don't tell me that most of your time goes to promoting http://bitcoinexaminer.org/bitcoin-is-changing-the-sex-industry-adult-way-is-the-new-cryptocurrency-friendly-platform/?

I have a meager stake in dark coin. You should check it out if you're looking for a promising alternative. And as for that link, was that supposed to bean insult? I don't get it.

Hi slyA,
Thanks I will look into that. And regarding the link, it was meant as a joke for the "fuck" part. I should not have done that. I am sorry for that.
None taken. I've been quite vulgar I must say. Apologies if that made you uncomfortable.

Well, this has all been a very interesting read.

To begin, slyA, I get it.  EAC's value has fallen dramatically, very scary.  And I'm sure that you (along with a few others) are absolutely convinced that the Earthcoin Team disclosing where the premine went would quell your fears.  But would it?  Everyone wants their hand held when times get tough, to know someone is still there for them.  But here's the thing, no matter what happened to the premine, no one is going to be satisfied with the answer.  I've been here since day 3, and every single person who's brought up the premine has gone on a rant like you have, but for different reasons.  Everyone is a critic, and they're just waiting for an explanation so that they can criticize the team.  Three likely scenarios and naysayer responses:

  • They dumped - Everyone abandon ship, they no longer have a vested interest in the coin.  Most common argument in the thread.  Maybe, but this argument is nullified when you consider that there are coins with NO premine that have active devs.  This argument is predicated on the previous behavior of the devs of shady coins, and people love to come in here and state that this one is no different.
  • They're still in possession of a large portion of the premine - what are you doing, go promote and give bounties and stuff!  That's probably what they're doing if this is the case, but the caution they're exercising would be ignored, and emphasis would be placed on the fact that they're still holding on to it rather than what they're doing with it.  Seen this a million times in this thread.
  • They've given away most of the premine for bounties and development efforts - Insert criticism on how they wasted it here.  All of a sudden, the thread becomes full of rants an criticisms about the devs incompetence, etc.

I've been here from the start, and all of the above arguments have come and gone.  The reality is, I can see why the Earthcoin Team chose not to be transparent about the day to day use of the premine, I'd opt to do the EXACT same thing that they've done.  The harsh reality is, no one in this thread gives a damn what they're doing when EAC is doing good in the market and they're making money.  These rants only happen when the coin loses value or remains stable for extended periods of time, thoughts run wild and people need to rein it in a bit.

Also, one more thing.  slyA, I've been here since day 3.  I've never seen you before.  EAC's value dropped, and you've come out of nowhere to preach about the apocalypse.  The only thing that's come out of you in the past couple of pages has been hypocritical, inflammatory, and deflationary.  And every time you've finished a tirade, you subtly drop a hint here and there:  Darkcoin.  Sounds to me like you might be playing the fear monger to poach EAC investors.  After all, why even mention Darkcoin?  That alone takes the legitimacy out of your argument, not to mention the constant assault on the team and all of its defenders.  You don't actually care about the development efforts, I've noted your lack of commentary on the new wallet and the early website release, and most importantly the game plan illustrating the current issues the devs are trying to tackle.  I'd dare to wager that you have an agenda here.
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The dev actually answered  these similar concerns here so I'll just link it https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5282966

And as for the success, you are right, what matters most is branding at the end of the day. The endless possibilities for anonymous transactions although enticing, might have to take back seat to the branding of the coin. I only hope dark coin is able to find the right balance between both aspects.

Thank you for that. What I do see is that "hiding in plain sight" is left out of the options. But I will follow its progress. Thanks for the tip.
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Just out of curiousity.
Let's say the premine is gone, spend or whatever. Does that mean that EarthCoin has vanished into thin air? Or is there still something to fight for?
For as most of the negative comments go regarding the premine, why waste so much energy by typing "the unfairness of them having all that money". I assume that you must have a day task in writing such messages when you are looking at let's say Apple, banks, governments or even crypto exchanges.
Ow, and and seems that I must use the word "fuck" to make my statement.


No. There fucking isn't. Happy?
Well almost. Sorry.
i would really appreciate it if you were to guide me to a coin where you spend most of your time trying to promote or actually develop for. I feel a little left in the dark when you give me no alternatives. And please don't tell me that most of your time goes to promoting http://bitcoinexaminer.org/bitcoin-is-changing-the-sex-industry-adult-way-is-the-new-cryptocurrency-friendly-platform/?

I have a meager stake in dark coin. You should check it out if you're looking for a promising alternative. And as for that link, was that supposed to bean insult? I don't get it.

Hi slyA,
Thanks I will look into that. And regarding the link, it was meant as a joke for the "fuck" part. I should not have done that. I am sorry for that.
None taken. I've been quite vulgar I must say. Apologies if that made you uncomfortable.

It did a little:)
Regarding DarkCoin, what future does that have? I am struggling with the following regarding the technology part or crypto's.
At this moment there is a real drive to make a coin as technical as possible to have something an other coin does not have. So at this moment we have coins which use different algorithems also to avoid the big mining pools. But what I don't see is why these coins will have a longer future than any of the others. The reason why I don't see it is because crypto's are evolving (and fast as i may say). Also, any crypto can upgrade its engine meaning that existing crypto's can change and follow.
What I do like (being a techno guy) is the idea to use the TOR network in combination with the coin mixing service. But if any exchange where to offer a coin translator, the mixing service has become useless. (coin translator as in I sent in coin A give a target address and out comes coin B. This also means that it has become irrelevant which coin you have as they are all interchangeable. And I do not want to try and trace those type of transfers)

So having said that, what I do think is an asset to any coin is its way to reach out to the normal people. In the long run i think that the engine of a coin will become irrelevant and its brand/feeling will last. For me it sounds like the battle between Betamax and VHS. The inferiour technology won. If I look at a brand like Apple, the main reason they are this big right now is because of the feeling people have around the product. The product itself is not that good anymore.

So these are my thoughts and I'd like it if you were to share your opinion on them.
Maybe you already saw it but if not, i think you will like http://www.ted.com/talks/simon_sinek_how_great_leaders_inspire_action.html on this subject, it is not what (tech) the crypto worlds offers, it is about why will people use it.
Second go back in this thead and read what the devs wrote, it is all about why they did want they did. Look at Doge, the tech specs and params are all a joke: but they build there coin from the inside out, not the other way around. Eac used to do this, today ik looks to me Wesadeac used a text writer for his first posts (hard to beleave this is the same guy).
At this moment i do "buy" the story from Noblecoin, same story there .... the why is more important than the how.
and it really helps the dev removed all anomity.
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