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I tend to agree: it's over!
I was very enthusiastic  from the start but having seen this forum slowly die out makes me believe that there is not more to squeeze out of the coin.
Where is the mobile wallet - exchange and etc.?

Sorry I think it's done.

I do hold some coins and lost kinda much because of the value going down but as I said before, look at almost ALL altcoins they have been going down 100-300% since Bitcoin did go down. For example look at USDE that was at 400 satoshis and is now around 60? As long as EAC is on Cryptsy a decent exchange it can always go up and gain value with time if people with some BTC find EAC as something that can go up (which it can). Instead of checking how much BTC it is on buy orders only check how much it is on sell order up to 150 satoshis, it isnt much either.

Also, there is alot of people who bought for much higher prices than it is today and probably can make it go up again but just holding and waiting. If you want to gain fast cash, EAC is not the currency you should put ur btc into. Its longterm.

This wasnt just pointed at u skywave but most people.

How you can type that out and not think that does not make sense astounds me. Crypto is currently an investment. It is still extremely volatile to be considered currency. EAC is nothing special in the current tidal wave of alt coins. It will get saturated and forgotten. Unfortunately leading people down the path to 1 satoshi is pure stupidity. How long are you going to say its long term until you begin to believe it? With lazy and frankly stupid devs lying and stealing? Is that the long term you're looking for?

So Bitcoin was a currently an investment when people bought it at first, yes. Thats why alot of people did hold their coins until today. You dont need to agree with me but alot of coins gained value with time. Im not defending the devs for not being active. It might get forgotten for a while but there is always people who see their chance to invest in a currency to gain more later.

Hold or sell is up to whoever got some EAC.

Look, you're not factoring in the fact that bitcoin had zero competition. We are in a different climate with EAC mate.
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I tend to agree: it's over!
I was very enthusiastic  from the start but having seen this forum slowly die out makes me believe that there is not more to squeeze out of the coin.
Where is the mobile wallet - exchange and etc.?

Sorry I think it's done.

I do hold some coins and lost kinda much because of the value going down but as I said before, look at almost ALL altcoins they have been going down 100-300% since Bitcoin did go down. For example look at USDE that was at 400 satoshis and is now around 60? As long as EAC is on Cryptsy a decent exchange it can always go up and gain value with time if people with some BTC find EAC as something that can go up (which it can). Instead of checking how much BTC it is on buy orders only check how much it is on sell order up to 150 satoshis, it isnt much either.

Also, there is alot of people who bought for much higher prices than it is today and probably can make it go up again but just holding and waiting. If you want to gain fast cash, EAC is not the currency you should put ur btc into. Its longterm.

This wasnt just pointed at u skywave but most people.

How you can type that out and not think that does not make sense astounds me. Crypto is currently an investment. It is still extremely volatile to be considered currency. EAC is nothing special in the current tidal wave of alt coins. It will get saturated and forgotten. Unfortunately leading people down the path to 1 satoshi is pure stupidity. How long are you going to say its long term until you begin to believe it? With lazy and frankly stupid devs lying and stealing? Is that the long term you're looking for?

So Bitcoin was a currently an investment when people bought it at first, yes. Thats why alot of people did hold their coins until today. You dont need to agree with me but alot of coins gained value with time. Im not defending the devs for not being active. It might get forgotten for a while but there is always people who see their chance to invest in a currency to gain more later.

Hold or sell is up to whoever got some EAC.
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I tend to agree: it's over!
I was very enthusiastic  from the start but having seen this forum slowly die out makes me believe that there is not more to squeeze out of the coin.
Where is the mobile wallet - exchange and etc.?
Visions are nice - but folks want reality and action.

Sorry I think it's done.

The mobile wallet is nearly finished. I've tried the wallet and it worked fine.

xploited wrote a message to me yesterday:
the 2 peopl that have tested it so far havent had any problem yet, so hopefully its the same for you!
I'm expecting to have it finished on Sunday.  I'm working on a update for digibyte this friday and won't be able to finish the last android updates before I get thought that.



OK @m3ta-schatten - I have followed your brave and tiresome endeavor to get that wallet up and going - but I have a strong feeling you are all alone about it - and that no one from the people behind EAC are really supporting and encouraging you in it? I might be wrong?
You are doing a tremendous job with this, but I have to say that it might be too late now.

Yes crypto markets are all diving - and I don't think it is just because of bitcoin.
I think it is because people are starting to see how difficult this whole new idea of a payment system is harder to implement than everyone thought.
It is not enough to have a popular coin - it need much more than that.
I can mention a few points but there are many more:
- easily accessible to the masses
- easily obtainable to the masses
- easy to use
- split-seconds for a transaction
- not more than 2 decimals
- wallet safety and security is a huge must! (lose one small kb-file and you have lost all)

There are around 120 different coins now - I am convinced that only a few of them will last - and then only for a limited time.
There will be - and are already - 2nd and 3rd generation systems in the breed and those might get a bigger chance on the world market.

I think i wrote it a little bit inarticulate.
xploited is the one who developed the wallet. I was only one of the tester.

I support the opinion, that there should be many more informations and updates by the Devs of EAC!
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I don't really care about low prices at all, but devs..



..as you can see, people are starting to freak out so we seriously need some regular updates, otherwise you will lose everything.

+1
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"to endure to achieve"
I tend to agree: it's over!
I was very enthusiastic  from the start but having seen this forum slowly die out makes me believe that there is not more to squeeze out of the coin.
Where is the mobile wallet - exchange and etc.?
Visions are nice - but folks want reality and action.

Sorry I think it's done.

The mobile wallet is nearly finished. I've tried the wallet and it worked fine.

xploited wrote a message to me yesterday:
the 2 peopl that have tested it so far havent had any problem yet, so hopefully its the same for you!
I'm expecting to have it finished on Sunday.  I'm working on a update for digibyte this friday and won't be able to finish the last android updates before I get thought that.



OK @m3ta-schatten - I have followed your brave and tiresome endeavor to get that wallet up and going - but I have a strong feeling you are all alone about it - and that no one from the people behind EAC are really supporting and encouraging you? I might be wrong?
You are doing a tremendous job with this, but I have to say that it might be too late now.

Yes crypto markets are all diving - and I don't think it is just because of bitcoin.
I think it is because people are starting to see how difficult this whole new idea of a payment system is harder to implement than everyone thought.
It is not enough to have a popular coin - it need much more than that.
I can mention a few points but there are many more:
- easily accessible to the masses
- easily obtainable to the masses
- easy to use
- split-seconds for a transaction
- not more than 2 decimals
- wallet safety and security is a huge must! (lose one small kb-file and you have lost all)

There are around 120 different coins now - I am convinced that only a few of them will last - and then only for a limited time.
There will be - and are already - 2nd and 3rd generation systems in the breed and those might get a bigger chance on the world market.
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I don't really care about low prices at all, but devs..

https://i.imgur.com/bazqF.gif

..as you can see, people are starting to freak out so we seriously need some regular updates, otherwise you will lose everything.
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I tend to agree: it's over!
I was very enthusiastic  from the start but having seen this forum slowly die out makes me believe that there is not more to squeeze out of the coin.
Where is the mobile wallet - exchange and etc.?

Sorry I think it's done.

I do hold some coins and lost kinda much because of the value going down but as I said before, look at almost ALL altcoins they have been going down 100-300% since Bitcoin did go down. For example look at USDE that was at 400 satoshis and is now around 60? As long as EAC is on Cryptsy a decent exchange it can always go up and gain value with time if people with some BTC find EAC as something that can go up (which it can). Instead of checking how much BTC it is on buy orders only check how much it is on sell order up to 150 satoshis, it isnt much either.

Also, there is alot of people who bought for much higher prices than it is today and probably can make it go up again but just holding and waiting. If you want to gain fast cash, EAC is not the currency you should put ur btc into. Its longterm.

This wasnt just pointed at u skywave but most people.

How you can type that out and not think that does not make sense astounds me. Crypto is currently an investment. It is still extremely volatile to be considered currency. EAC is nothing special in the current tidal wave of alt coins. It will get saturated and forgotten. Unfortunately leading people down the path to 1 satoshi is pure stupidity. How long are you going to say its long term until you begin to believe it? With lazy and frankly stupid devs lying and stealing? Is that the long term you're looking for?
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I tend to agree: it's over!
I was very enthusiastic  from the start but having seen this forum slowly die out makes me believe that there is not more to squeeze out of the coin.
Where is the mobile wallet - exchange and etc.?
Visions are nice - but folks want reality and action.

Sorry I think it's done.

The mobile wallet is nearly finished. I've tried the wallet and it worked fine.

xploited wrote a message to me yesterday:
the 2 peopl that have tested it so far havent had any problem yet, so hopefully its the same for you!
I'm expecting to have it finished on Sunday.  I'm working on a update for digibyte this friday and won't be able to finish the last android updates before I get thought that.

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I tend to agree: it's over!
I was very enthusiastic  from the start but having seen this forum slowly die out makes me believe that there is not more to squeeze out of the coin.
Where is the mobile wallet - exchange and etc.?

Sorry I think it's done.

I do hold some coins and lost kinda much because of the value going down but as I said before, look at almost ALL altcoins they have been going down 100-300% since Bitcoin did go down. For example look at USDE that was at 400 satoshis and is now around 60? As long as EAC is on Cryptsy a decent exchange it can always go up and gain value with time if people with some BTC find EAC as something that can go up (which it can). Instead of checking how much BTC it is on buy orders only check how much it is on sell order up to 150 satoshis, it isnt much either.

Also, there is alot of people who bought for much higher prices than it is today and probably can make it go up again but just holding and waiting. If you want to gain fast cash, EAC is not the currency you should put ur btc into. Its longterm.

This wasnt just pointed at u skywave but most people.
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"to endure to achieve"
I tend to agree: it's over!
I was very enthusiastic  from the start but having seen this forum slowly die out makes me believe that there is not more to squeeze out of the coin.
Where is the mobile wallet - exchange and etc.?
Visions are nice - but folks want reality and action.

Sorry I think it's done.
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In my opinion, it was to pull a ripcord!  To fire the engine and provide enough fuel to keep it running for as long as possible or as long as it took someone to bring another canister (their own coins) of gas and then another canister and another.  Until there was over-flowing amounts of fuel and everyone pitched in along the journey.  Maybe its me, maybe I am crazy!


Hi Wesand,

Ok, it's clear how & want you want the community to do & we can forget about any insight into the premine.
But now you are online can you answer one question for me: How do you describe the role of the dev team?





You want the truth? You are fucking crazy and I say this as that is the calmest word out there to describe you guys. Scroll back to the previous threads. People were fucking prepared to help with this. Remember the Australian veggie farmers? What about those who were ordering EAC pins? Remember then?

You greedy fucks just had to make off like bandits with the premine did you not? You couldn't help yourselves and for that alone, you expect anyone to buy your bullshit?

The user above you started his market place and you're saying it got lost in the muddle of projects? What goddamn projects? You have not said anything today IMO and I don't give a fuck if you credit me as you say. As long as people stop tolerating your bullshit lies.

The time for diplomacy was over the minute you couldn't produce the premine you and your band of thieves stated was going towards bounties and giveaways. So yeah, fuck you mate. I hope the community does not tolerate you bullshit promises any longer. You utter greedy scamming cunts.

The premine was only tolerated because people chose to trust you fucking liars so you cannot just say it wont be worth anything later. You took the premine and ran. Own the fuck up to it you ponzi-fucknut.
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I really cant stand this any longer, sick of this shit - fucked over again...

a) Premine has been at least partially dumped on market
b) Premine has been shifted around, split, shifted around, split shifted around and split multiple times to discourage tracing http://earthchain.info/address/eUrViTV2M3aTk3dCuxqiuGse4hdv2vYgfn see for yourself.
c) Premine has been used to fund wages for a real dev team + and hardware for http://incryptex.com, what "devs" are really working on is not EAC but http://incryptex.com
d) Comments and suggestions ignored, or if not ignored certainly not acted on, replies are nonsense
e) No official bounties. Dev rely on community development / marketing
f) Comment on one of their youtube videos forced them to take it down (about dumping premine)
g) Absolutely terrible communication, terrible counter arguments to premine questions, beating around the bush.
h) Nobody even knows who the official devs are, [user] earthcoin / [user] WesandEAC, who else?
i) User WesandEAC is obviously more of a professional TRADER then a dev, nobody has 100 screens with charts for "dev" work.
j) User earthcoin is probably https://twitter.com/CryptoNorb, a known pump and dumper - i dont think he is a dev either, more a business man.
k) https://twitter.com/CryptoNorb launched EAC, is launching http://incryptex.com - in beta testing now - the only thing showing any progress.

Some of this may be conjecture but thats how I see it.

Well I've learnt my lesson over the past few weeks - some basically rules for investing in a cryptos should be:

1) Know the dev team, and that they aren't pump and dumpers - at least half the value of the coin is derived from a good committed dev "TEAM" and not one guy doing it all.
2) Try to get their REAL NAMES, Twitter Accounts, Facebook Accounts, Pictures of what they look like etc., preferably a business address too if possible - this shows they are less likely to run off and abandon the project for fear of repercussions.
3) NO PREMINE - whatever anybody tells you... NO FUCKING PREMINED COINS i.e "90% get rich quick scams" - investors hate them (because they've been burned before).
4) Mine the coins for the first few weeks at least, don't invest your own hard earned cash until the price establishes a fair value and your certain the devs are still onboard.
5) Dont be greedy
6) Assume most of these coins are a scam
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In my opinion, it was to pull a ripcord!  To fire the engine and provide enough fuel to keep it running for as long as possible or as long as it took someone to bring another canister (their own coins) of gas and then another canister and another.  Until there was over-flowing amounts of fuel and everyone pitched in along the journey.  Maybe its me, maybe I am crazy!


Hi Wesand,

Ok, it's clear how & want you want the community to do & we can forget about any insight into the premine.
But now you are online can you answer one question for me: How do you describe the role of the dev team?




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That is a great point and yes I am sure you efforts got muddied in the mess at launch. Literally lost!  I apologize for that.  As for our purpose it was to create a brand that people to get behind however people are supposed to get behind it.

slyA, over the next days you are right your messages will be regarded but no to your credit.  The community will see some action.

quorum, my apologies.  I actually knew nothing about this.  So PM me and bring me up to speed.  I was focused on my own efforts.  Now we can start to bring some of this together over the next month of which you will see some today.
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[quote author=WesandEAC link=topic=379236.msg5287424#msg5287424 date=
I would suggest being creative with your energy instead of pointing fingers.  Is there anything you have done yourself?  Please elaborate for the community we would love to hear all your initiatives and work efforts to bring value to the community?
[/quote]

Mr WesandEAC,

I developed the initial Earthcoin marketplace project (https://earthcointalk.org/forums/topic/eartcoin-marketplace-experiment-feedback-wanted/), which was lauded by Mr. Earthcoin (Norb):

"This is wonderbar! Glad to see people being proactive and innovative. This is my first post here and this is what finally got me to not lurk, take the time to sign in and say hello. Please give me your eac addy so I can give you a token of our appreciation for building this out, and let’s keep it going – we should get a good domain name for it and we’ll do promo for it from the main website and bitcointalk threads."

After I pointed him to my EAC address, I have never seen any donation from anyone to support that project. I spend many hours coding that Earthcoin marketplace site, alongside my freelance job.

I reached out to contact Norb later, and was told the team (specifically CryptoZark) also had some ideas for a marketplace. Never heard anything from the Earthcoin team after that, even after pingin Norb for another chat weeks ago. Is it then any surprise I stopped working on that project?

So all your TALK about supporting ideas and projects means nothing, if you don't actually do it.

This project will fail if it keeps letting people down like this. You reap what you sow.



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Also there will be no dissemination of the premine, in fact it is split up so many times to respective parties I have no idea where it all would be, so that is a moot point.  You have been given access to what I control and that is all I can do for you.  The pre-mine will be insignificant in another five months and barely represent 3% of the pool, by year under it will be 2.5%.  No one needs to justify anything for that meager of a stake.  There are individuals with much more power if they feel so inclined as to use their hoard to create value.  EarthCoin can be taken in any direction, not just ours.  Its definition and substance will simply be created by the community as a whole.

EarthCoin is much different of an ideology than DogeCoin.  DOGE is representative as an idol, a worship of a Shibu-Inu dog.  It is simplistic and magnificent in its creation and I applaud them for the cult following.  EAC is much more difficult to define and is built over a larger idea and takes much more of a following to identify with the store of value we call EarthCoin.  Even bigger than we envisioned.  It is a large platform for which luck and fate will be equally important.

THERE WILL BE NO DISSEMINATION OF THE PREMINE?!

Hahaha  Cheesy the truth has finally come out. Good to know. The greatest trick the devs ever pulled was convincing the world that the premine exists, and like that.

POOF

It's gone.

Stay classy scamming cunts. Stay classy.
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Wink  I do not think this is the place for you.  Best of luck in your future endeavours.  I do feel like many other coins, EAC can see 1 Satoshi for a time, just an opportunity if you have a plan.

I would suggest being creative with your energy instead of pointing fingers.  Is there anything you have done yourself?  Please elaborate for the community we would love to hear all your initiatives and work efforts to bring value to the community?

I'm glad we could work out the fact that you're a condescending twat. As of this moment, you should know that people from the community will read this exchange and behind all my vitrol, know that I have made my point. You have skillfully, rather, impressively avoided all my questions with vague answers. I bid you adieu with EAC. It was nice while the tree hugging fun lasted.

Dark coin. Here I come.
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Also there will be no dissemination of the premine, in fact it is split up so many times to respective parties I have no idea where it all would be, so that is a moot point.  You have been given access to what I control and that is all I can do for you.  The pre-mine will be insignificant in another five months and barely represent 3% of the pool, by year under it will be 2.5%.  No one needs to justify anything for that meager of a stake.  There are individuals with much more power if they feel so inclined as to use their hoard to create value.  EarthCoin can be taken in any direction, not just ours.  Its definition and substance will simply be created by the community as a whole.

EarthCoin is much different of an ideology than DogeCoin.  DOGE is representative as an idol, a worship of a Shibu-Inu dog.  It is simplistic and magnificent in its creation and I applaud them for the cult following.  EAC is much more difficult to define and is built over a larger idea and takes much more of a following to identify with the store of value we call EarthCoin.  Even bigger than we envisioned.  It is a large platform for which luck and fate will be equally important.
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Wink  I do not think this is the place for you.  Best of luck in your future endeavours.  I do feel like many other coins, EAC can see 1 Satoshi for a time, just an opportunity if you have a plan.

I would suggest being creative with your energy instead of pointing fingers.  Is there anything you have done yourself?  Please elaborate for the community we would love to hear all your initiatives and work efforts to bring value to the community?
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Hi community,

   Ahhhhhh where to start.  Communication.  Cryptozark will be initiating many things over the next two months and coordinating teams of people or individuals who wish to be commissioned with a task.  If you were disheartened with things, the dev team was even more so.  We waited for emails, or ideas, or initiatives from the community of course where we could decide to support and promote each respective addition to the collective ideology of EarthCoin.  There were very little.  However there were some and we are assembling those individuals on respective tasks and projects.

   A shining example of how to create value for EVERYONE with EarthCoin is Earthazaar.  A collaboration of ideas and an assembly of function, solely accomplished out of the time, effort and personal funds of a passionate motivated fella, Centurion.  Hats off.  This effort, while not directly correlated to a price increase in EAC will have a lasting effect and serves both Centurion's efforts and the community as a whole.  We will be supporting his efforts in anyway we can.

   Cryptozark has set sail on a mission to establish project managers in many areas of the proliferation of the idea of EarthCoin, collaborating with Hash Engineering, Sprocket, Steve and Earthshit who is HARDLY shit!  These initiatives will bring upcoming additions to content for EarthCoin one of which will be the inevitable imminent launch of the new site.  Barely mentioned was our release of 1.2qt and some other details will follow.

   I can not stress enough the importance of EVERYONE creating value.  I will be straight-forward.  I have 24 million EarthCoins, many of which I have purchased my self.  The devs are not a go to wallet for everyone who owns EarthCoin.  If you require that in your life, that is what the Federal Reserve is for and their respective lending institutions, go borrow money against your assets.  For example, here in this Crypto-World, as a miner, who may hold 50,000,000 coins in a hoard, your job is to actually "give" 25,000,000 of those away to double or triple the value of the remaining 25,000,000 you would hold, thus creating a greater sum.  That is how you create value through "giving" towards projects that create content and spur initiative.

   Too often in these threads and others it sounds like birds in a nest, with their beaks wide open, chirping and singing for a worm to be given to them.  That mentality must be left behind.  That mentality is for an inflationary system where governing bodies try to right wrongs and there is someone to call for your complaints.  In a crypto-currency environment we must pay it forward and be responsible to grow value for the future for all of us.  What a concept!!  There is no one to call, it is self policing, self regulating and most important self fulfilling.

   When we reach a critical mass of infrastructure created you will have wet and wild EarthCoin dreams haha.  No one knows when that will occur, we must simply hand off the baton to someone motivated to take it forth to the next month as we lose our way sometimes and regroup.  Putting your coins on a USB and forgetting about them is not the way to create value - DO SOMETHING.  Get involved. 

   Soon I will have in my possession, less than .005% of the supply of EarthCoin come August when we reach 33% total creation.  But I believe I can create value more than 80% of EarthCoin users - how is that!?!  If that is actually true, we are in trouble hehe.  I can not point fingers but I will say that for any person hoarding a significant amount of coins, realize that they will be worthless unless you put half of them to work to create value for the other half.  It is just how it works guys.  I had hoped I didn't have to explain it that way and common sense would dictate the logic.

   So for all the pre-mine non-sense, it is far from depleted however it must also be stretched over the next year or two unless some back to back big projects are worth the effort now or someone who also has a hoard steps up to the plate.  Fate and time will tell.

   Good job everyone and again don't be dissuaded by price, it is a function of a lot of things.  This is the time to spread the manifesto regarding EAC's benefits.  Day in and day out.  Reward will come when it comes unfortunately.

It's like fucking clockwork with you isn't it. I predicted everything you were going to say. Funny enough, you still brought out the vague bullshit of "something" in the works. If you can't say what it is then fuck right off. This is not a high school clique. It is not gossip. You want the community to be proactive yet you shut them out? Get the fuck outta here.

Again... WHERE IS THE PREMINE WALLET?! What was the premine for if not to fund your so called fucking projects?  What are you trying to stretch until next year when by then your fucking coin will be 1 satoshi? Are you just incredibly dense or fucking naive?

No one asked you for the premine money to give out to the community so fuck you for making that assertion. People are asking for inclusion and transparency but you being the legalese double speak king, you craftily avoided it all and only harped on cryptozark and earthhazaar because you have nothing to show for it.

No one gives a fuck if you own 0.fuckpercent of EAC. You're not putting it to good use anyway. So fuck you and your colleagues and come back when you have something of note instead of the vague pandering bullshit you've been pulling for the past month. By nightfall, EAC will be sub 60 satoshi. By nightfall, this coin will crumble due to your incompetence.
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