Topic: [ANN][EAC] EarthCoin *SEEKING NEW EXCHANGES - HUGE VOLUMES BEING MISSED! - page 133. (Read 840344 times)

The dev actually answered  these similar concerns here so I'll just link it https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5282966

And as for the success, you are right, what matters most is branding at the end of the day. The endless possibilities for anonymous transactions although enticing, might have to take back seat to the branding of the coin. I only hope dark coin is able to find the right balance between both aspects.

It did a little:)
Regarding DarkCoin, what future does that have? I am struggling with the following regarding the technology part or crypto's.
At this moment there is a real drive to make a coin as technical as possible to have something an other coin does not have. So at this moment we have coins which use different algorithems also to avoid the big mining pools. But what I don't see is why these coins will have a longer future than any of the others. The reason why I don't see it is because crypto's are evolving (and fast as i may say). Also, any crypto can upgrade its engine meaning that existing crypto's can change and follow.
What I do like (being a techno guy) is the idea to use the TOR network in combination with the coin mixing service. But if any exchange where to offer a coin translator, the mixing service has become useless. (coin translator as in I sent in coin A give a target address and out comes coin B. This also means that it has become irrelevant which coin you have as they are all interchangeable. And I do not want to try and trace those type of transfers)

So having said that, what I do think is an asset to any coin is its way to reach out to the normal people. In the long run i think that the engine of a coin will become irrelevant and its brand/feeling will last. For me it sounds like the battle between Betamax and VHS. The inferiour technology won. If I look at a brand like Apple, the main reason they are this big right now is because of the feeling people have around the product. The product itself is not that good anymore.

So these are my thoughts and I'd like it if you were to share your opinion on them.

None taken. I've been quite vulgar I must say. Apologies if that made you uncomfortable.

Hi slyA,
Thanks I will look into that. And regarding the link, it was meant as a joke for the "fuck" part. I should not have done that. I am sorry for that.

Apologies for the tirade. I forgot to take my meds 

I have a meager stake in dark coin. You should check it out if you're looking for a promising alternative. And as for that link, was that supposed to bean insult? I don't get it.

I saw that he wrote something. I dont know what. Good.  
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All the guys who want to contribute can join the poll at Earthcointalk.org to become a part of the team.
This forum is filled with hatefull atmosphere anyway.
--->Better talk at Centurions place.

Well almost. Sorry.
i would really appreciate it if you were to guide me to a coin where you spend most of your time trying to promote or actually develop for. I feel a little left in the dark when you give me no alternatives. And please don't tell me that most of your time goes to promoting http://bitcoinexaminer.org/bitcoin-is-changing-the-sex-industry-adult-way-is-the-new-cryptocurrency-friendly-platform/?

You act like a raging teen with all your "fucks,fucking, fucked" and insult people just when you open your mouth. You never talked one word with me, and I didnt realize you before you started the witchhunt. But you call me naive and talk to me like a teacher.
I dont care. You are one of hundreds we had so far. Troll, emotional driven human or just an idiot trying to say something because here is room to talk.

This is business and building future.

The business people try to make money asap and all others triy to build up a better life. I'm between that and try to find out why this is not working, but you point your finger at almost everyone and start screaming.

KEEP COOL.

Think rational and dont let your feelings make your words because that wont help you, nor the community, nor solve problems.


Think back, as everyone was talking about the next month and how they would go.
So. Now we have a different setting, a lot of people with losses and a dev-team which is doing stuff BEHIND all this, because they know that this takes time.

It's like a idiocrazy where all the crybabies come up and babble that they are hungry and blaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa... and you are the baby-cry-boss not even able to act with courtesy and decency.


You said the community doesnt know the projects. Wrong. We do.

You dont like premine. ok. got it. everyone got it. you are the loudest.

You are insulting in almost every comment reminding me of a few experts we had here so you get the same medicine. /ignored.

Again:
Do something or realize that your unemployment benefit will shrink to zero.
For all other issues. Go to the mental-doctor.


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Just look at this fucking idiot. So anyone who says something you dont like is a troll or a raging teen as you aptly put it?

The devs have something in the works? waht are they? I'm curious.

I dont owe the devs or any of their supporters any common decency when they act like fucking thieves. If you support a theif then you do not deserve respect. Come back here in 1 months time when the devs have vanished and you're here preaching your keep calm message. It would be hilarious.

Being abrasive is not trolling. I have not said anything that is not feasible. Unfortunately the few trolls that you ignored long time ago telling you this was a scam, GUESS WHAT IDIOT? THEY WERE FUCKING RIGHT. Now the coin is in the shitter and the devs have vanished and yet here you are holding on to your stupid hope. Where has KEEP COOL got you?

You act like a raging teen with all your "fucks,fucking, fucked" and insult people just when you open your mouth. You never talked one word with me, and I didnt realize you before you started the witchhunt. But you call me naive and talk to me like a teacher.
I dont care. You are one of hundreds we had so far. Troll, emotional driven human or just an idiot trying to say something because here is room to talk.

This is business and building future.

The business people try to make money asap and all others triy to build up a better life. I'm between that and try to find out why this is not working, but you point your finger at almost everyone and start screaming.

KEEP COOL.

Think rational and dont let your feelings make your words because that wont help you, nor the community, nor solve problems.


Think back, as everyone was talking about the next month and how they would go.
So. Now we have a different setting, a lot of people with losses and a dev-team which is doing stuff BEHIND all this, because they know that this takes time.

It's like a idiocrazy where all the crybabies come up and babble that they are hungry and blaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa... and you are the baby-cry-boss not even able to act with courtesy and decency.


You said the community dont know the projects. Wrong. We do.

You dont like premine. ok. got it. everyone got it. you are the loudest.

You are insulting in almost every comment reminding me of a few experts we had here so you get the same medicine. /ignored.

Again:
Do something or realize that your unemployment benefit will shrink to zero.
For all other issues. Go to the mental-doctor.

Let's hope that these things get solved as coin itself is great.

Only problem currently is that actual creators of this coin are quiet and thats not rising any trust to them at the moment.

But everything else seems to be fine. Devs are making some good progress and community is awesome.

And of course price is low but that can be improved in very short period of time if everything comes together.

No. There fucking isn't. Happy?

at first sorry for my english, ridiculous arguments placed here against eac, every coin is still under developement and not yet finshed, the whole crypto world is still in its infancy.
Earthcoin still has imo a lot of potential great name/logo fast confirmations etc. etc. blah blah . All the coins are in a dip right now, and will rise again and so will eac.
I'am also very currious what the "devs?" are doing, where is user earthcoin? How hard is it for him to post a small message here like still alive, enjoying a expensive cocktail on a sunny beach paid from the premined earthcoins hehe lol   
I have faith in this coin saw great work is being done on like the beta site, earthazar android wallet.
Started mining eac again because now I'am getting over 60000 earthcoins a day with 3mh  also trying to buy some at 50 so please dump some so I can buy them cheap!

Just out of curiousity.
Let's say the premine is gone, spend or whatever. Does that mean that EarthCoin has vanished into thin air? Or is there still something to fight for?
For as most of the negative comments go regarding the premine, why waste so much energy by typing "the unfairness of them having all that money". I assume that you must have a day task in writing such messages when you are looking at let's say Apple, banks, governments or even crypto exchanges.
Ow, and and seems that I must use the word "fuck" to make my statement.

Heh.. What would your wife say about that..

Nice looking stuff they are selling. I might even buy a necklace for the wifey

I am not going to try and put to much in here as to not add to the fire, but my opinion that it really all boils down to this.

The community is demanding transparency on everything, and currenty is not being informed on what is being worked on and as to location of the premine... i know this has been established about 10-20 times lol.

I have seen one other coin in particular which their community had came to them with problems with a premine of the coin and lack of communication from the dev's.  The premine was labelled as 1% but in reality was much much bigger.  So at first the Dev's were a little defensive, angry at the lack of trust from the community. Essentially the community started to die, hash rate dropped 66%, people were livid on the forms.... But eventually they started to get rid of the premine in ways of mining promotions, listing some new bounties of things they needed etc.  

You know what happened next, the community started with some great and positive feedback even though the premine is still close to 30-40% of available coins.  And the coin IMO is doing quiet well, its beeing added to lots of exchanges, getting new services, they are changing and upgrading websites, etc.


Its not too late to bring alot of interest back into EAC. This thing cannot be help up by the community itself if the community has nothing to be excited in.  And do you know what gets most people excited and willing to work, the possibilty of making some decent $$$!!

sorry if some of this makes 0 sense, its early and i just got up.


edit:   i guess the post above me says in other words some of the points i was trying to make.  Community is what makes the coin, and attracts tons of new devs!

I would personally never do this unless things got dire, as they seemed to have here. I apologise in advance if I offend anyone by posting here, but I can't stay silent. I can't let the community that grew up around EAC evaporate just like this - it's just not f****** right.

I have removed anonymity and provide my real social media profile & personal name/face as well as a public ledger of all premine addresses/development expenditure to date and personal details shared with others (for example Peter Chasse, the founder and president of The Water Project).

Before I released Noble, I was an avid fan of EAC. I mined, followed the discussions and website from day one. I don't remember posting too often, if at all, (edit: looking back on my history I posted for giveaways shamelessly!) but I considered myself a part of the community. Take that as you will, but this coin was a major inspiration to us at the time. The community was amazing, huge and dedicated, the devs were on top of everything, and the marketing and imagery behind the coin were top notch.  However, I never liked the fact that from early on EAC never made public their premine to “protect trade & competitive secrets”, which I felt was a rubbish excuse. I also don't like the anonymity of key figures in most coins and the fact they can get away with anything because of it. Hence the idea for our coin was born - and I'm inviting you to at least take a look at NobleCoin. Don't buy a single coin if you don't like, community members are just as valuable.

The most valuable thing with EAC is the damn community, it is amazing. There is so much passion and desire to build a coin, services, and do good in the world that I envy it. I just want to say right now if anyone wants to use that passion and drive for a new coin with the same early aspirations as EAC, please PM me. I will offer generous bounties for the same work and ideas you are throwing around here. I don't want you to leave EAC if you still believe in it, I just want you to know your desire to get involved is also welcome with open arms over here. I also invite you to check the links below if you've read this far and aren't too taken aback by my bold post.

I know I've made some enemies by rudely posting this here, but I just couldn't resist any longer. All the best regardless of your choice.

slyA is right, they cant give any transparency on the premine whatsoever.  Check the genesis block of the block chain and follow it.  There was no need to move it around like that bouncing it between multiple wallets.  Can you think of a reason for doing that?  Can anybody give a good explanation as to why 270mil would be split up and sent to another wallet, then split again and sent to another wallet and so on for dozens of wallets... i gave up looking which is why i said we need a decent block chain investigator to spend a few hours looking through it, the community can give him donations or something for his efforts... that will be one thing that wont require a bounty lol

Lots of people have done work on this coin and not received bounties, people have been giving them donations instead which i think is wrong.

They talk about projects they are working on but the investors are not good enough to hear about them i guess, not even on the earth coin forum?

The secret project is most likely the exchange they are working on that will make them filthy rich if it takes off and we've essential crowd funded it for them even though it has nothing to do with EAC.

Sharmbeck - a scam - was not a hidden company, it was started by the worldcoin devs... well that worked out great.  We can guess they aren't going to be filing with FinCen then which means its probably going to be based in another country other than the US.  You don't need privacy, secrecy if your doing things legit that's my point.  I just hope one of the EAC community is involved in or knows someone in law enforcement because then they could get access to that exchanges domain records and find out their info at least.

People have been patient for a long time and watched the price dwindle, and when they raise concerns get terrible reply's like "you have to do stuff yourself".  There's no plan at all when the devs say things like that.  Any bit of good news from the devs about what they were doing would stabilize or boost the price, i don't see whats what the problem is, it takes 5 minutes out of your time each day to read this forum or the earthcoin one and make updates.. i don't even know who the official devs are tbh, it should be on the main page of this thread along with bounty info and where the premine has been spent, other coins with premines do this, UTC for example.

My biggest problem has always been the premine, its 2%, but thats 2% when the whole coin amount was issued, all 13bil of them, which will take years, at launch they held almost all the coins in existence, it should have been classed as a 90% premine tbh, even today its like a 30% premine and still to this day no answers have been given about where the premine is, how its been spent etc. yes they deserve paying for their work and i wouldnt even care if they said 270m premined coins went to dev a 50mil, dev b is given 50 mil but no its just hidden away.  Anyway if a dev is so convinced of his coins success he should put his own money on the line, that is unless he's a broke student in which case fuck this coin, paying kids tuition screw that shit.  But thats the point isnt it we know fuck all about the devs, or the devs of half of the other coins... im going to insist i know more details about the devs of the next coin i invest in, not going through this shit again and with worldcoin too, they even had a pictures and info of their dev team and that still didnt work out but it gave the community alot of confidence to back them.

I say it again:
You can't do it backwards!
I do not buy a car when the manufacturer has only made the bottom frame, the engine, one seat and a steering-wheel, and then ask people to finish it themselves.
I buy it when the car is completed - tested and looks awesome.