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Topic: [ANN][EAC] EarthCoin *SEEKING NEW EXCHANGES - HUGE VOLUMES BEING MISSED! - page 277. (Read 840369 times)

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Me. Keeping them at craptsy between 150 sell and 100, 50, 2, 1 rebuy orders  Grin Never made faster profit.

Even the crash may be scalped  Grin
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anyone here who keeps his/her eac?
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90% of being smart is knowing what you are dumb at
Time for tequila shots and listen to The Doors...

queue track.
The End
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I'm looking on it from a side and it just looks like someone is dumping premine ^^

You said it bro.

I'll just say that Total Mined EAC volume : Pre-Mined EAC volume = 2 : 1
But I was explained here that premine is not a problem; someone owning 33% stake and the rest of us having no idea what's done with it - is just fine.

The way I see it, no miner would ever dump at these prices.


You severely underestimate the power that uncertainty, doubt, and fear can have over a person.

Why wouldnt a miner dump if the price is free falling, they can always buy back in if things turn around.

I think you misinterpreted my statement.  I was saying that fear will make a miner dump, even at a ridiculous price.

Yes a smart miner will dump now, even at this price, why? because 130 is better than 80, even a moron can see that. A little is better than next to nothing. I made a smart decision to dump between 210 and 245, because even as painful as it was to dump 20 days of mining at that unprofitable price, I knew it was only down from there. I was a smart miner to make that decision, I was a stupid miner to hold when it hung at 525 on coinedup for a number of days. A bird in hand is better than two in her bush, or something like that. If you are a miner today, you will hate yourself for not selling at 130 today because , mark my words, 12 hours from now 130 will seem like a great price. Don't believe me, watch.
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wow now at 109......  Shocked
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Why wouldnt a miner dump if the price is free falling, they can always buy back in if things turn around.

Because if they were opportunist miners, they wouldn't be mining it under these prices to beging with.
They would be on 42, Doge or happily tagging along with one of multipools
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I'm looking on it from a side and it just looks like someone is dumping premine ^^

You said it bro.

I'll just say that Total Mined EAC volume : Pre-Mined EAC volume = 2 : 1
But I was explained here that premine is not a problem; someone owning 33% stake and the rest of us having no idea what's done with it - is just fine.

The way I see it, no miner would ever dump at these prices.


You severely underestimate the power that uncertainty, doubt, and fear can have over a person.

Why wouldnt a miner dump if the price is free falling, they can always buy back in if things turn around.

I think you misinterpreted my statement.  I was saying that fear will make a miner dump, even at a ridiculous price.
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minerz, multipools are not touching EAC, because it's far from the most profitable


The way I see it, no miner would ever dump at these prices.

You severely underestimate the power that uncertainty, doubt, and fear can have over a person.

Or over a price, right?

Meanwhile what has been response from our EAC team during cryptsy launch and during this staggering fall.

Something about the interview and the facebook page.......................................
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I'm looking on it from a side and it just looks like someone is dumping premine ^^

You said it bro.

I'll just say that Total Mined EAC volume : Pre-Mined EAC volume = 2 : 1
But I was explained here that premine is not a problem; someone owning 33% stake and the rest of us having no idea what's done with it - is just fine.

The way I see it, no miner would ever dump at these prices.


You severely underestimate the power that uncertainty, doubt, and fear can have over a person.

Why wouldnt a miner dump if the price is free falling, they can always buy back in if things turn around.
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The qualitative way to look at this is very simple.  You must change over the collective mentality of the base.  The price must fall far enough for someone to have a new time horizon.  As the person holding at 400 Satoshis sees 100 Satoshis, the belief that anything good will every happen begins to subsides and that turns to anger and fear.  These moments are where you have a psychology of speculator that has a completely different perspective and that is what is necessary to stabilize the base.  There was nothing that could be done to avoid listing on cryptsy and it is a necessary evil hehe, this can be avoided if you wanted to have the coin listed only on EBAY for 2 years and no one wants to do that either.  So for now enjoy the ride and know that EarthCoin is not going anywhere.  Adjust your perspective. Wink

I have some questions.
1. If i was dev, i would remake the wallet... theres still "send bitcoin"... "recieve bitcoins". Is it hard to make and compile a new one?
2. What about the Website? It was OK for a few days, just to inform miners and interested persons... but now?
3. When comes news, some conceptional planned steps would be nice...

cheers

I completely agree and all that is in the works.  Won't be able to give you new content every 12 hours though.
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I'm looking on it from a side and it just looks like someone is dumping premine ^^

You said it bro.

I'll just say that Total Mined EAC volume : Pre-Mined EAC volume = 2 : 1
But I was explained here that premine is not a problem; someone owning 33% stake and the rest of us having no idea what's done with it - is just fine.

The way I see it, no miner would ever dump at these prices.







How about multipools?They cant sell everything in big chunks.I think many of those 5000 6000 etc sells are from pools.
And why not miners dumping?Its been most profitable coin many times today.
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I'm looking on it from a side and it just looks like someone is dumping premine ^^

You said it bro.

I'll just say that Total Mined EAC volume : Pre-Mined EAC volume = 2 : 1
But I was explained here that premine is not a problem; someone owning 33% stake and the rest of us having no idea what's done with it - is just fine.

The way I see it, no miner would ever dump at these prices.


You severely underestimate the power that uncertainty, doubt, and fear can have over a person.
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Looks like EAC could actually go under 100 by tomorrow at this pace. Never thought it would tank so far so fast. There is only one buy order worth 1 bitcoin in the entire list and its at 0.00000001.....
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Its annoying that no auction offers more possibilities to set up a price.

E. G. someone sells at 200 and sets up a rebuy at 150. But he cant set "stop-loss" price to rebuy at 220 when price moves another way than he wants.
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I could go on for several screens-worth of typing about the auto-switching auto-exchange pools and the damage that they do to the markets, nevermind to their own users' profitability, but I won't. Suffice to say that they will collapse in on themselves and deservedly so. You have the biggest one needing to spend most of its time mining LTC because it's simply too big for anything else, and that of course begs the question of why you would pay someone 3% + exchange fees to mine something that you could mine yourself for far less. Those are the kinds of lazy miners who IMHO will get bored with making < $10 per MH/s per day and quit rather than making decisions for themselves. Add in certain pool admins who exit their large positions with all the grace of a rutting rhinocerous (really, if you have for example 12,000 of a coin to sell then do it in 500 coin blocks throughout the day - it's better for your users and the markets than hurr durr hit the sell button all at once) and the lazy / incompetent will disappear eventually. I also think that more and more up-and-coming coins like EAC will use the difficulty-adjustment-per-block approach that makes them a nightmare for those pools. Other deserving coins will gain so much hash rate as the trashcoins die out that the pools won't have the same effect as they do right now when the total hash rate is spread so thinly.

So when I threw the line out about not relying on a 2 week old coin to pay the electric bills, this was the thinking behind it. Treat your business like a business and don't assume that an untested new product is going to pay the bills. That's what established low risk / low reward coins should be used for. And for those who say that EAC at 200 Satoshois wasn't worth the cost to mine it, I'd love to see the math behind that. I was getting around 170,000 per day when the difficulty was in the 20s and 30s which at 200 Satoshis would be 0.34BTC per day, or $280ish at the current CoinBase sell price. For that claim to be even remotely realistic would require an electric rate of about 40-45c per kWh. Please show me another business where the "failures" return a 75% profit margin for very little effort? No really, please?

Flame suit on  Smiley



Cheers for your input, Its good to see someone with such a well thought out strategy laying it out for the less experienced miners.
I agree with what you said , particularly the part about the switching pools, these are a blight on the whole crypto movement and represent a cheapening lazy approach that we could well do without.
as we have seen thus far the evolutionary principle is powerfully at work in the crypto world so  I expect the wheat to be sorted from the chaff in short order this year as there really is so much chaff out there!
Lets hope that this process includes the profit switching pools as well.
The crazy goldrush we have seen recently is most certainly turning sour for some of our less patient peers as evidenced by the ironically doom laden prophesies based on minute by minute analysis of the exchange rate,(is there anyone who does Not have AtlantisPlatform in ignore? lol)
anyhoo good stuff,
My feeling is that long term the delayed crypsy launch will prove a positive for EAC as it seems to have hastened the weedling out of the weakwilled dumpers and newbies who have no idea how to work thier investments.

Not learning are you, still bashing miners and calling them names like "weakwilled", "newbies", "clueless newbies", "weedlings" (not sure what that is) WOW! Such ignorance, much idiot!  You want to weed out miners?HuhHuh?   

Now for the other poster, cryptos are not like other businesses, 99% of these coins will not be long term. Basically you have all these hundreds of new crypto's, let's think of them as colored balloons. They are all balloons just different colors. Everyone with a brain quickly inflates his balloon with helium as quickly as possible and lets it go to see how high it will go.  99% will eventually lose their gas and float back to the ground, however some will catch a current and soar. Earthcoin left their balloon uninflated, limp and lying on the ground, not even wanting to pump it up. Now it is forgotten, it was too long, should have pumped it up and let it fly and then maybe it would have soared.  Not even Viagra can help it now.

Another way of saying it, all these coins are little blobs of shit, everyone picks theirs up and slings it at the side of the barn and hopes it sticks. Most don't and they slowly ooze their way back to the ground.  Earthcoin left their blob of shit sitting on the ground saying they would wait to sling it, and instead it got trampled into the ground, now it can't even be picked up and slung on the side of the barn.  I am sorry to tell you but there is no long term here, there is nothing different here, only a foolish person would count on long term with this. Even Bitcoin may not be long term, who knows? Your chance of the whole vege world going with earthcoin, , 1 in a million!
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I'm looking on it from a side and it just looks like someone is dumping premine ^^

You said it bro.

I'll just say that Total Mined EAC volume : Pre-Mined EAC volume = 2 : 1
But I was explained here that premine is not a problem; someone owning 33% stake and the rest of us having no idea what's done with it - is just fine.

The way I see it, no miner would ever dump at these prices.




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My point exactly

You being too scared(cautious?) to buy at 140 somtehing.

Two of us are the same - I'm not dumping anything, and you're not buying anything.

It's not about being scared. I'm only looking for better profit/risk ratio. Same as many other people and that's reason
why is price where it is now. Weak hands are panicking and selling, strong hands are slowly buying and waiting. I'm not
saying you are on any of this two sites, you choose your way. Peace.
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Regarding prices being cheap or expensive:
If you want to calculate the prices (without day traders), you just need to know the daily volume (14,400,000), a number of actual new money required to keep up with the generated daily generated coins and the value of a BTC.

Daily buy $3,000
BTC $800
This would mean: 14,400,000/3000 = 0.000208 then 0.000208/800 = 0.00000026 BTC

Daily buy $6,000
BTC $800
This would mean: 14,400,000/6000 = 0.000278 then 0.00078/800 = 0.00000035 BTC

Daily buy $20,000
BTC $800
This would mean: 14,400,000/20,000 = 0.001389 then 0.001389/800 = 0.00000175 BTC

Off course, the number of day traders, people letting go due to moving to an other coin are not included. Otherwise with the current daily:
Daily $70,000
BTC $800
This would mean: 14,400,000/70,000 = 0.004861 then 0.004861/800 = 0.00000608 BTC
Which clearly is not the price on the exchanges.

So considering the coin going down and the math given, this would mean that 4 to 5 times the amount of coins is being traded at the moment above the daily generated amount.

Not sure whether this helps anyone, but I think the words cheap/expensive can be calulated (even in more detail if you would make some effort in finetuning the numbers).


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I'm looking on it from a side and it just looks like someone is dumping premine ^^
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What happened to that Trading Software screenshot at http://getearthcoin.com/?

Why it has been removed?


And, no I'm not talking that about Android/iOS app (MIA also?), but rather professional looking software that has been advertised.

Are you referring to http://incryptex.com/?


Indeed I am.

That looks really good! Has nothing to do with EAC per se?

IIRC, it's being developed by the EAC team with an ETA sometime around 1-2 months.  The website currently states that it will allow direct EAC/USD and EAC/BTC trades, so I would think it has a lot to do with EAC, among other cryptos.
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