Here's my take on the design contest. Hope you like it!
https://imgur.com/dYkn0Qg
(original EPS or AI files can be provided on request offcourse)
Topic: [ANN][EFL] Electronic Gulden | The Netherlands | Bittrex - cryptopia ea | - page 11. (Read 82174 times)
April 25, 2018, 02:29:44 PM
April 25, 2018, 07:02:23 AM
I'm not the right guy to answer this question, I suggest you send an email to [email protected] and wait for their responce.
April 24, 2018, 02:14:56 PM
Hy,
how can i add my pool to the whitelist? i only mine alone at the moment with 200kH and lost around 4 - 8 blocks...
Must i write the thread beginner? Or what must i do?
how can i add my pool to the whitelist? i only mine alone at the moment with 200kH and lost around 4 - 8 blocks...
Must i write the thread beginner? Or what must i do?
April 24, 2018, 12:30:52 AM
Hy,
i have "found" a few blocks, but it was rejeced, why? need i add my pool to a white-list?
i have on new blocks allways this error:
i have "found" a few blocks, but it was rejeced, why? need i add my pool to a white-list?
Code:
2018-04-15 09:21:13 InvalidChainFound: invalid block=e186574357dc6f6aa9c5ab8f2e60df563f9692d168f290352d6f789cc258e5ea height=1093900 log2_work=57.665648 date=2018-04-15 09:20:49
2018-04-15 09:21:13 InvalidChainFound: current best=e3d12dc46656855aad16589a1f9887640db940b5dfc3c3fe91354abb79032916 height=1093899 log2_work=57.665641 date=2018-04-15 08:50:10
2018-04-15 09:21:13 ERROR: ConnectTip(): OeruShield denied block
2018-04-15 09:21:13 InvalidChainFound: invalid block=e186574357dc6f6aa9c5ab8f2e60df563f9692d168f290352d6f789cc258e5ea height=1093900 log2_work=57.665648 date=2018-04-15 09:20:49
2018-04-15 09:21:13 InvalidChainFound: current best=e3d12dc46656855aad16589a1f9887640db940b5dfc3c3fe91354abb79032916 height=1093899 log2_work=57.665641 date=2018-04-15 08:50:10
2018-04-15 09:21:26 UpdateTip: new best=0e9adb1336f22ed2d96986ca588e896235533cc13c7da46d0cd5c7a079054ed2 height=1093900 version=0x20000000 log2_work=57.665648 tx=1291734 date='2018-04-15 09:20:46' progress=0.087050 cache=0.2MiB(1315tx)
i have on new blocks allways this error:
Code:
CreateNewBlock(): Unable to sign blockCreateNewBlock():
More info here: https://e-gulden.org/index.php/The_e-gulden_oerushield
this feature makes us one of the safest POW coins out there and is a result of the conclusion that a local coin can never compete with global coins like litecoin, simply because they sserve a much smaller audience.
To cut is short, the answer is yes. You can also make a worker on one of the 3 whitelisted pools and mine from there so you can find the sixth block.
April 23, 2018, 10:51:26 PM
Did you also watch the demo?
April 23, 2018, 09:22:11 AM
Hy,
i have "found" a few blocks, but it was rejeced, why? need i add my pool to a white-list?
i have on new blocks allways this error:
i have "found" a few blocks, but it was rejeced, why? need i add my pool to a white-list?
Code:
2018-04-15 09:21:13 InvalidChainFound: invalid block=e186574357dc6f6aa9c5ab8f2e60df563f9692d168f290352d6f789cc258e5ea height=1093900 log2_work=57.665648 date=2018-04-15 09:20:49
2018-04-15 09:21:13 InvalidChainFound: current best=e3d12dc46656855aad16589a1f9887640db940b5dfc3c3fe91354abb79032916 height=1093899 log2_work=57.665641 date=2018-04-15 08:50:10
2018-04-15 09:21:13 ERROR: ConnectTip(): OeruShield denied block
2018-04-15 09:21:13 InvalidChainFound: invalid block=e186574357dc6f6aa9c5ab8f2e60df563f9692d168f290352d6f789cc258e5ea height=1093900 log2_work=57.665648 date=2018-04-15 09:20:49
2018-04-15 09:21:13 InvalidChainFound: current best=e3d12dc46656855aad16589a1f9887640db940b5dfc3c3fe91354abb79032916 height=1093899 log2_work=57.665641 date=2018-04-15 08:50:10
2018-04-15 09:21:26 UpdateTip: new best=0e9adb1336f22ed2d96986ca588e896235533cc13c7da46d0cd5c7a079054ed2 height=1093900 version=0x20000000 log2_work=57.665648 tx=1291734 date='2018-04-15 09:20:46' progress=0.087050 cache=0.2MiB(1315tx)
i have on new blocks allways this error:
Code:
CreateNewBlock(): Unable to sign blockCreateNewBlock():
April 21, 2018, 07:39:53 PM
Today we have released a new mining pool where we can mine this coin.
There is a mining calculator for this coin too.
Check pool Yapool on https://yapool.net/en/usd/
The pool have stratum servers in america, europe and asia.
You can mine many coins automatically or choose to mine only this coin using the "mine:SYMBOL" stratum parameter.
Payments can be made in BTC with the integrated exchange functionallity.
There is a screenshot of the main page:
There is a mining calculator for this coin too.
Check pool Yapool on https://yapool.net/en/usd/
The pool have stratum servers in america, europe and asia.
You can mine many coins automatically or choose to mine only this coin using the "mine:SYMBOL" stratum parameter.
Payments can be made in BTC with the integrated exchange functionallity.
There is a screenshot of the main page:
April 17, 2018, 05:38:11 AM
Hi all,
somebody is probably wondering why I'm first moaning about no buyers and now i am selling, so I just wanted to let you know, my selling spree is over. The reason why I sold EFL the past couple of days is because the journalists that filmed me this weekend had a great offer.
I'm going to be starring in a dutch documentary about 6 people who dedicated their lives to crypto, I'm one of the 6 people. On 10th of may it will be broadcasted on dutch channel 2 and about 500000 people will see it, that is quite a big audience for a country that has 17M inhabitants.
Anyway, one of the 2 journalists has her own website about IVF treatment and has a sponsordeal with the biggest commercial party in the Netherlands that provides billboard commercials next to the highway. I will buy 1 billboard from her for the price of 10.000 euro My image will be shown for 2 weeks and millions of people who pass by will see it.
I hereby call for a contest, anybody who is willing to participate can develop an image that will be shown on the billboard.
I got a couple of wishes for it
Backgroud should be orange
our ƒ logo should be in it
I want the following text in this image:
sparen voor de toekomst
makkelijker kunnen we het niet maken, wel leuker.
www.e-Gulden.org
The winner will be chosen in the last week of april and will win the sum of e-ƒl 2.203,71
Good luck!
somebody is probably wondering why I'm first moaning about no buyers and now i am selling, so I just wanted to let you know, my selling spree is over. The reason why I sold EFL the past couple of days is because the journalists that filmed me this weekend had a great offer.
I'm going to be starring in a dutch documentary about 6 people who dedicated their lives to crypto, I'm one of the 6 people. On 10th of may it will be broadcasted on dutch channel 2 and about 500000 people will see it, that is quite a big audience for a country that has 17M inhabitants.
Anyway, one of the 2 journalists has her own website about IVF treatment and has a sponsordeal with the biggest commercial party in the Netherlands that provides billboard commercials next to the highway. I will buy 1 billboard from her for the price of 10.000 euro My image will be shown for 2 weeks and millions of people who pass by will see it.
I hereby call for a contest, anybody who is willing to participate can develop an image that will be shown on the billboard.
I got a couple of wishes for it
Backgroud should be orange
our ƒ logo should be in it
I want the following text in this image:
sparen voor de toekomst
makkelijker kunnen we het niet maken, wel leuker.
www.e-Gulden.org
The winner will be chosen in the last week of april and will win the sum of e-ƒl 2.203,71
Good luck!
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April 13, 2018, 03:31:31 PM
I saw the bounty thread of your project but I can’t find the link to the white papper. Can you give me the link of the white paper? I need to read through the white paper to understand the project clearly 
Thank you so much!
Thank you so much! April 13, 2018, 10:39:48 AM
thank you EFL because I got a profit by selling half my EFL at 2,200 satoshi.
And half again I will save for the future.
Greetings.
And half again I will save for the future.
Greetings.
April 11, 2018, 08:36:06 AM
Hi Joris,
I like your quick responce and I can't make anything other out of it instead that you are right, my communication sucks and I always unintentionaly make enemies with my words. I am getting to know myself better every day of my life and am working on one getting out the message in a way that people can actually listen to me without an angry face, but untill that time you have to deal with me, because i believe in this coin and am continuasly working to get people involved.
I like your quick responce and I can't make anything other out of it instead that you are right, my communication sucks and I always unintentionaly make enemies with my words. I am getting to know myself better every day of my life and am working on one getting out the message in a way that people can actually listen to me without an angry face, but untill that time you have to deal with me, because i believe in this coin and am continuasly working to get people involved.
April 11, 2018, 06:35:15 AM
April 11, 2018, 06:00:03 AM
Hi ,
Any plans to add more exposure to this coin by adding it to other exchanges such us Upbit or binance?
Thank you !
Any plans to add more exposure to this coin by adding it to other exchanges such us Upbit or binance?
Thank you !
Yes and No. The problem with exchanges at the moment is that they all want to serve the world, while the world cannot be served by an exchange. Good exchanges are overloaded and need to restrict access. What would be needed (Not only for EFL) is a number of exchanges that list coins in a specific category. That category would be : countrycoins. No trading pairs like LTC-BTC but EFL-BTC and EFL-LTC, AUR-BTC, PTC-BTC and the likes. It is not even a plan. It is something we are working on.
April 11, 2018, 05:28:30 AM
let me add one more thing to your EFL guys.
If cars were sold in the way you people try to sell your cryptomoney, it would look something like:
"the 4,56" screw in the cylinder make a perfect mixture of gas and oxygen so a partial combustion will take place in 0,0000575 sec producing a driving force of 0,045234 newton on the cranck." YOU SEE, YOU NEED THIS CAR! Sign here, please!
Stop thinking the whole world studied rocketscience like you did. They didn't. Don't tell everybody there the most stupid people in the world. Don't insult everybody you can find!
Build yourself a good team with skilled people. People who understand the principles of marketing, promotion and psychology (This is by far the most important skill you need to persuade people if you want to introduce something big like new a new kind of money) Buy yourself some books about persuading people. It's important.
Don't think all people who don't understand your geekspeak are stupid. They're not. They just don't understand a word of what your saying or writing. They don't understand a word of your extremely-difficult-to-read website. They don't understand what you try to do or try to say.
And that's the reason your EFL coin is almost finished.
No technical problems. Just not knowing how to deal with normal people. Especially non-technical people. Believe me. There's a world outside internet. Those people aren't connected to a keyboard. Those people don't have an usb3.0 port integrated in their skull. Those people are not connected to a blockchain.
They're just ordinairy people. Happy people.
So, leave your ivory tower. Go outside. Look at those happy people ! You need those people to reach your goal!!!!!!!
It's likely it's too late for EFL to survive. Maybe when you act very fast. Maybe. Not likely.
Face it. This way you're killing the coin. And fast! I don't know why you try to do that. But you do!
The Netherlands need good coin. But that's not NLG. That's obvious. But it's not EFL too. Maybe someone in the next future will start a coin that's directed to normal people.
I'll wait buying EFL Maybe later. If it survives
Good luck!
Joris
If cars were sold in the way you people try to sell your cryptomoney, it would look something like:
"the 4,56" screw in the cylinder make a perfect mixture of gas and oxygen so a partial combustion will take place in 0,0000575 sec producing a driving force of 0,045234 newton on the cranck." YOU SEE, YOU NEED THIS CAR! Sign here, please!
Stop thinking the whole world studied rocketscience like you did. They didn't. Don't tell everybody there the most stupid people in the world. Don't insult everybody you can find!
Build yourself a good team with skilled people. People who understand the principles of marketing, promotion and psychology (This is by far the most important skill you need to persuade people if you want to introduce something big like new a new kind of money) Buy yourself some books about persuading people. It's important.
Don't think all people who don't understand your geekspeak are stupid. They're not. They just don't understand a word of what your saying or writing. They don't understand a word of your extremely-difficult-to-read website. They don't understand what you try to do or try to say.
And that's the reason your EFL coin is almost finished.
No technical problems. Just not knowing how to deal with normal people. Especially non-technical people. Believe me. There's a world outside internet. Those people aren't connected to a keyboard. Those people don't have an usb3.0 port integrated in their skull. Those people are not connected to a blockchain.
They're just ordinairy people. Happy people.
So, leave your ivory tower. Go outside. Look at those happy people ! You need those people to reach your goal!!!!!!!
It's likely it's too late for EFL to survive. Maybe when you act very fast. Maybe. Not likely.
Face it. This way you're killing the coin. And fast! I don't know why you try to do that. But you do!
The Netherlands need good coin. But that's not NLG. That's obvious. But it's not EFL too. Maybe someone in the next future will start a coin that's directed to normal people.
I'll wait buying EFL Maybe later. If it survives
Good luck!
Joris
April 11, 2018, 05:19:46 AM
April 10, 2018, 09:10:23 PM
I wrote something today, it is not on the forum, but for joris' sake i will put it there in 2 days, so we wont have a month without posts, but when Joris writes here you get a reaction within too much time passing, there must be someone who shows interest in this coin, right?
Thanks Joris, for coming back, but unfortunately you make the same mistake as all other naysayers before your presence.
You see, EFL is a cryptocoin with OERU shield implemented. This means it is like a weed, it's not easy to get rid of it and very secure without the need of endless powerconsumption. Our lauch was actually one of the biggest in crypto history 4 years ago many people where really impressed, unfortunately the intentions of our founder where not what we've all hoped it would be, but for me, as a trader, it was the perfect opportunity to make EFL into more then just a coin to trade.
I want to show to all the sheeple that crypto is a stronger means of saving the fruits of your labour then traditional fiat. What better way to pick a coin that was declared dead by 99% of its community? Even when everybody believes a coin is doomed it can still outperform the "stable" euro, I made 45000% on EFL in 4 years time.
The reason why there is no trade in EFL is because at these levels all coins have been traded. Nobody wants to pay more then needed for it's coins and me too prefers to catch them cheap. People in NLD are asleep, or blinded by the marketing of NLG. Oeh wow, you can buy a sandwich with crypto, really? The reason why im not with NLG is because at launch, they promised a inflationproces like most crypto's, with blockhalvings at certain block numbers. I thought their 1.6B total coins where going to surpress the price that i could buy them after a year or 3 for cheap, but unfortunately NLG, like EFL, did not keep it's promise. The only difference is that they sell it in a better way, but going to 100 coins for the next 50 + years made me descide i pick up those coins when bitcoin hit a million bucks in 25 years or so and they still poop out 30K coins per day.
Anyway, let's not get too much offtopic, because afterall we are talking about EFL here. I didnt read all your post because it is long and you didnt use quotations which makes reading not so appealing, and frankly, i've got something better to do then read about how what i am doing is wrong. The person who you try to insult by writing about our website is not me, let me put that out first. he actually made www.efl.nl the website of egulden.org and many more things actually, what have you done to contribute to our project, or do you just want to spread negativity like all the other people that try to claim this coin isn't worth any of their money?
The best advertisement is mouth to mouth and that is why distribution of efl's goes in the way it goes. at the rate that we are handing them out is will take about 3 years to get rid of those things, we are now half year underway and you are free to invite everybody to our airdrop. I do not really understand why you want to portray it as if we are trying to keep those coins ourselves, we've been buying them with bitcoinprices under 1000$ and mining them in a network of under 10GH/s, believe me, I got plenty of coins and give them away on a regular basis when I got a good connection with somebody that understands how I feel, what you think of this EFL song someone put on my timeline the other day? https://www.facebook.com/yoshilivo/posts/2096865053934096
I tell you how i see it, and then you can tell me I'm crazy, does that sound like a good deal to you? Here we go:
A good financial product does not need selling or advertisement, it will sell itself. We do not need to beg or pay shops to accept our currency, instead what we need is a community that is willing to use the coin. I think you would be crazy if you buy stuff with your crypto, i did it a couple of times, payed .14 btc for a sandwich once, or bought 35 anonymous masks for 1 btc, it's not that i regret these actions, but I learned that crypto should be used in a different matter. When we got enough community that participate in our economy there will come people who try to seduce you into spending that money with them, because they have some product or service they want to try and make money of you.
For the sake of my rest at night i will quit it here, because i've said all these thing a million times before and will probably have to repeat them a millions times over, but i got kind of an interesting weekend ahead of me, so if you excuse me, i got something better to do then talking to somebody that is trying to tell me my life is a joke. Ow before i forget, here is that story i started my post with, enjoy! https://sgulden.webnode.nl/l/doubts/
Thanks Joris, for coming back, but unfortunately you make the same mistake as all other naysayers before your presence.
You see, EFL is a cryptocoin with OERU shield implemented. This means it is like a weed, it's not easy to get rid of it and very secure without the need of endless powerconsumption. Our lauch was actually one of the biggest in crypto history 4 years ago many people where really impressed, unfortunately the intentions of our founder where not what we've all hoped it would be, but for me, as a trader, it was the perfect opportunity to make EFL into more then just a coin to trade.
I want to show to all the sheeple that crypto is a stronger means of saving the fruits of your labour then traditional fiat. What better way to pick a coin that was declared dead by 99% of its community? Even when everybody believes a coin is doomed it can still outperform the "stable" euro, I made 45000% on EFL in 4 years time.
The reason why there is no trade in EFL is because at these levels all coins have been traded. Nobody wants to pay more then needed for it's coins and me too prefers to catch them cheap. People in NLD are asleep, or blinded by the marketing of NLG. Oeh wow, you can buy a sandwich with crypto, really? The reason why im not with NLG is because at launch, they promised a inflationproces like most crypto's, with blockhalvings at certain block numbers. I thought their 1.6B total coins where going to surpress the price that i could buy them after a year or 3 for cheap, but unfortunately NLG, like EFL, did not keep it's promise. The only difference is that they sell it in a better way, but going to 100 coins for the next 50 + years made me descide i pick up those coins when bitcoin hit a million bucks in 25 years or so and they still poop out 30K coins per day.
Anyway, let's not get too much offtopic, because afterall we are talking about EFL here. I didnt read all your post because it is long and you didnt use quotations which makes reading not so appealing, and frankly, i've got something better to do then read about how what i am doing is wrong. The person who you try to insult by writing about our website is not me, let me put that out first. he actually made www.efl.nl the website of egulden.org and many more things actually, what have you done to contribute to our project, or do you just want to spread negativity like all the other people that try to claim this coin isn't worth any of their money?
The best advertisement is mouth to mouth and that is why distribution of efl's goes in the way it goes. at the rate that we are handing them out is will take about 3 years to get rid of those things, we are now half year underway and you are free to invite everybody to our airdrop. I do not really understand why you want to portray it as if we are trying to keep those coins ourselves, we've been buying them with bitcoinprices under 1000$ and mining them in a network of under 10GH/s, believe me, I got plenty of coins and give them away on a regular basis when I got a good connection with somebody that understands how I feel, what you think of this EFL song someone put on my timeline the other day? https://www.facebook.com/yoshilivo/posts/2096865053934096
I tell you how i see it, and then you can tell me I'm crazy, does that sound like a good deal to you? Here we go:
A good financial product does not need selling or advertisement, it will sell itself. We do not need to beg or pay shops to accept our currency, instead what we need is a community that is willing to use the coin. I think you would be crazy if you buy stuff with your crypto, i did it a couple of times, payed .14 btc for a sandwich once, or bought 35 anonymous masks for 1 btc, it's not that i regret these actions, but I learned that crypto should be used in a different matter. When we got enough community that participate in our economy there will come people who try to seduce you into spending that money with them, because they have some product or service they want to try and make money of you.
For the sake of my rest at night i will quit it here, because i've said all these thing a million times before and will probably have to repeat them a millions times over, but i got kind of an interesting weekend ahead of me, so if you excuse me, i got something better to do then talking to somebody that is trying to tell me my life is a joke. Ow before i forget, here is that story i started my post with, enjoy! https://sgulden.webnode.nl/l/doubts/
April 10, 2018, 02:47:29 PM
Well Joris, we are happy to answer questions. But to be honest, you should read first. All your questions have been addressed on multiple locations on https://e-gulden.org. But because your questions are so prominent we will give you a hand.
Well, i did. I only found a website egulden.org. It only raises questions like mine but doesn't give any answers. By the way, my questions wher to your chairman yoshi. Who are you? I want to read but i need stuff a norml guy like me does understand. But thanks for your reaction.
Quote from: JorisGoedbloed on March 13, 2018, 01:12:50 PM
Why should anybody want to invest in EFL?
Because it is a community coin. 99% of all transactions are local.
so less volume? Everybody investing in stocks, forex and so on knows that only high volume is giving high prices. So a local coin will always have a lot lot of disadvantages to a worldwide one.
-1 for EFL should i say.
Why bother the world with local transactions. Bitcoin is bloated. Maybe a merchant can handle the top 10 of world-cryptocurrencies, but the top-10 cannot handle the world. A quick display:
Bitcoin capacity (TX/day) 10^6
Top-10 capacity (TX/day) 10^7
World demand (TX/Day) 10^11
Only community coins can offload world demand
Only community coins can expect loyalty
Only community coins can expect local awareness
Only community coin-cummunities can address and reach the entire community
Think for yourself... If you believe in the potential of a dutch crypto-economy it might be smart to invest
In fact you're saying wat say. Good investors spread their money. Over a lot of assets. Over a lot of countries. You put your moey where liquidity is. Where volume is.
-2 for EFL.
Quote from: JorisGoedbloed on March 13, 2018, 01:12:50 PM
It's there for 4 years now. In that time, absolutely nothing seems to have happened at all.
Appearantly you are new here, so you are forgiven, but please spend some time on reading https://e-Gulden.org.
The guy that made this website should be fired today. it'clumsy and nobody will understand his geekspeak. Please write one in english or dutch (i can read ii pretty well.
I read before i asked my questions to yoshi. But as said before...It only raises more questions. A lot more.
There is enough material to spend weeks of reading.
sure there is!. Please make a summary.
You will discover a battle of a community and a lot of successes due to hard work.
the last post on your forum is 4 weeks old. nuff said.
Quote from: JorisGoedbloed on March 13, 2018, 01:12:50 PM
Price in Sathoshi has hardly changed. There's no trade in it.
e-Gulden is grassroots. There is no infinite marketing budget. In fact there is none. Remember real cryptocurrency is decentralised. Bitcoin has the advantage of being a showcase. But decentralised means there is no central investor since there is no central beneficiary. Most investors act on their own and are anonimous and like to stay that way. Community building is a slow process. It is happening but you most know where to look. How about yourself? Do you want to contribute to make things work or rather wait till success is imminent?
Quote from: JorisGoedbloed on March 13, 2018, 01:12:50 PM
In the Netherlands nobody has ever heard of EFL . And nobody even tries to tell them EFL exists. How should they know?
Pardon. The EFL network has more than 1000 active corewallets.
Yes. To handle 5 trnsactions a day?
Bitcoin has less than 10.000. You mean you have never heard of EFL?
Indeed. Why should i? because you run so many corewallets? Who wrote about this? What newspaper? Waht magazine? Which website? How should i know? You're that guy who was on television on some bitcoin program? Was that you?
Quote from: JorisGoedbloed on March 13, 2018, 01:12:50 PM
I read about your foundation. The four people behind that foundation don't believe in it either. They're dumping EFL on the market for free these days. So I understood on your website.
Indeed. You're giving away your stock of EFL for free. They onlu reason for it is yoru 're leaving the ship?
orry, but I personally do not let anybody tell me what I believe in. I suppose that counts for all of us. Be fair.
EFL is not being dumped. The premine is carefully being distributed to as many dutch citizens as is reasonally possible through proof of work.
Quote from: JorisGoedbloed on March 13, 2018, 01:12:50 PM
i thig there more than a thousand people in holland. How do you reach them? Or is this only for you friends? Again: Show me your ads. show me articles about it. Tell me the newspapers you're in.
Face it. NOBODY knows who you are. Nobody nows EFL exitst.
Well, nobody does something like that if you really believe in your coin, don't you? If it has a real value there're better ways to spend it. You're one of those foundation guys i've seen under a comment. Please tell me why giving away EFL for free to a small group of people is such a good idea.
Well, you confirm my opinion form your site: You're giving away EFL to a very small group of people for free. The rest of the dutch people may pay for it. Your friend get it for free.
The idea behind cryptomoney is decentralisation. No centralisation around one guy and his friends. I bet you never worked at all. One of those very rich first adopters, i presume?
Anybody can participate. We are building a network. EFL is not being sold or dumped. We are addressing personal interest and loyalty. We are not addressing investors in the first place. Decentralisation is our goal.
Your goal is making a small group very rich. No big deal. Every cryptocoin does.
Everybody should have a fair chance to participate. When we would sell it, sure there would be more budget to market and reach investors that might pump the price. We rather seek sympathy and build on loyalty.
If you really would like to have new participants, you go "the boer op" as the say in Ducth. Tell the people who you are. Nobody knows. Tell them what cryptomoney is. May 1000 people in holland know by now. Tell them waht EFL is. Only the people you throw money at know about it.
Quote from: JorisGoedbloed on March 13, 2018, 01:12:50 PM
In my opinion, giving away things for free tells people it's useless and worthless.
Luckily the free market determines price. Not your opinion. We are not giving EFL away. We let people earn their share.
Quote from: JorisGoedbloed on March 13, 2018, 01:12:50 PM
Please tell us why this foundation of you has no plans or any vision for the future on your website? Do you have any vision or ideas? Where you're heading with your EFL-coin?
This is not a question. It sounds like sheer negative propaganda and it is completely untrue. We offer you weeks of reading and plenty of summaries. Go read https://e-gulden.org/index.php/The_e-gulden_oerushield or http://egulden.org/downloads/A%20response%20to%20the%20already%20notorious%20EBA%20report%20final.pdf and we expect some excuses.
Your readers may expect excuses. Do you really think people can read this? Come on. Give it to an experienced write en let hem do the writing. Let hem translate this dutch/english stuff to real dutch everybody can understand.
Quote from: JorisGoedbloed on March 13, 2018, 01:12:50 PM
Everything on your coin is secret. Why do you hide everything?
That is the exact opposite of the truth. Nothing is hidden except for some private keys.
Ok. Who are you? Where can i meet you? Where's a picture of you? Where's your telephonenumber? When is your next meeting? Do you really exist? are you female? male? Same for they other people. What's your plan? When do you execute i
I read you're coin exists 4 years. Show me a timeline with all the highlights. Btw. A bad company is gone after 4 years...How do you manage to exist at all?
Quote from: JorisGoedbloed on March 13, 2018, 01:12:50 PM
Tell me (or us) about the future of EFL. Show me your plans. They must be there, I suppose. Tell me why I should trust you?
There is no "me" or "us". There is just https://github.com/Electronic-Gulden-Foundation/egulden, a blockchain that is distributed a thousand times and a community that cherishes it. You are welcome to be part of it.
so you admit there's really nothing. Just some computercode. Well, that's the first good answer i get. I like to meet you guys. When and where do you meet? Soms café will do, i suppose? Do you have some office somewhere? No telephone. I like to talk to people face to face. When is the next groupmeeting? and where?
Quote from: JorisGoedbloed on March 13, 2018, 01:12:50 PM
So i hope you'll answer my questions. Why would I buy EFL on the same moment you guys are dumping it?
Well the answer is there. Judge for yourself, but I suggest you do some homework before you get back
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may i suggest some homework too?
1. a book writing text in dutch for dummies
2. websdesign for dummies
3. how to handle people en prospects for dummies
4. marketing for dummies
5. promotion for dummies
6. graphical design for dummies
and then start over. get more people. get more skilled people. Not just millenials like you. There's more on the planet, you know.
face it. This coin is really a total disaster.. It should be forbidden you try to get money from innocent people, not being one your friends. Maybe it has a sound technique...It seems to have,
but a coin needs people, you know? people to use it. People to tell about it. Not just your small group of friends.
a last advice: Don't assume a guy with a lot of good questions didn't read you stuff. I did. I tried, i should say.
Presumptions like that make you look stupid. Not the guy with the questions.
Joris
Well, i did. I only found a website egulden.org. It only raises questions like mine but doesn't give any answers. By the way, my questions wher to your chairman yoshi. Who are you? I want to read but i need stuff a norml guy like me does understand. But thanks for your reaction.
Quote from: JorisGoedbloed on March 13, 2018, 01:12:50 PM
Why should anybody want to invest in EFL?
Because it is a community coin. 99% of all transactions are local.
so less volume? Everybody investing in stocks, forex and so on knows that only high volume is giving high prices. So a local coin will always have a lot lot of disadvantages to a worldwide one.
-1 for EFL should i say.
Why bother the world with local transactions. Bitcoin is bloated. Maybe a merchant can handle the top 10 of world-cryptocurrencies, but the top-10 cannot handle the world. A quick display:
Bitcoin capacity (TX/day) 10^6
Top-10 capacity (TX/day) 10^7
World demand (TX/Day) 10^11
Only community coins can offload world demand
Only community coins can expect loyalty
Only community coins can expect local awareness
Only community coin-cummunities can address and reach the entire community
Think for yourself... If you believe in the potential of a dutch crypto-economy it might be smart to invest
In fact you're saying wat say. Good investors spread their money. Over a lot of assets. Over a lot of countries. You put your moey where liquidity is. Where volume is.
-2 for EFL.
Quote from: JorisGoedbloed on March 13, 2018, 01:12:50 PM
It's there for 4 years now. In that time, absolutely nothing seems to have happened at all.
Appearantly you are new here, so you are forgiven, but please spend some time on reading https://e-Gulden.org.
The guy that made this website should be fired today. it'clumsy and nobody will understand his geekspeak. Please write one in english or dutch (i can read ii pretty well.
I read before i asked my questions to yoshi. But as said before...It only raises more questions. A lot more.
There is enough material to spend weeks of reading.
sure there is!. Please make a summary.
You will discover a battle of a community and a lot of successes due to hard work.
the last post on your forum is 4 weeks old. nuff said.
Quote from: JorisGoedbloed on March 13, 2018, 01:12:50 PM
Price in Sathoshi has hardly changed. There's no trade in it.
e-Gulden is grassroots. There is no infinite marketing budget. In fact there is none. Remember real cryptocurrency is decentralised. Bitcoin has the advantage of being a showcase. But decentralised means there is no central investor since there is no central beneficiary. Most investors act on their own and are anonimous and like to stay that way. Community building is a slow process. It is happening but you most know where to look. How about yourself? Do you want to contribute to make things work or rather wait till success is imminent?
Quote from: JorisGoedbloed on March 13, 2018, 01:12:50 PM
In the Netherlands nobody has ever heard of EFL . And nobody even tries to tell them EFL exists. How should they know?
Pardon. The EFL network has more than 1000 active corewallets.
Yes. To handle 5 trnsactions a day?
Bitcoin has less than 10.000. You mean you have never heard of EFL?
Indeed. Why should i? because you run so many corewallets? Who wrote about this? What newspaper? Waht magazine? Which website? How should i know? You're that guy who was on television on some bitcoin program? Was that you?
Quote from: JorisGoedbloed on March 13, 2018, 01:12:50 PM
I read about your foundation. The four people behind that foundation don't believe in it either. They're dumping EFL on the market for free these days. So I understood on your website.
Indeed. You're giving away your stock of EFL for free. They onlu reason for it is yoru 're leaving the ship?
orry, but I personally do not let anybody tell me what I believe in. I suppose that counts for all of us. Be fair.
EFL is not being dumped. The premine is carefully being distributed to as many dutch citizens as is reasonally possible through proof of work.
Quote from: JorisGoedbloed on March 13, 2018, 01:12:50 PM
i thig there more than a thousand people in holland. How do you reach them? Or is this only for you friends? Again: Show me your ads. show me articles about it. Tell me the newspapers you're in.
Face it. NOBODY knows who you are. Nobody nows EFL exitst.
Well, nobody does something like that if you really believe in your coin, don't you? If it has a real value there're better ways to spend it. You're one of those foundation guys i've seen under a comment. Please tell me why giving away EFL for free to a small group of people is such a good idea.
Well, you confirm my opinion form your site: You're giving away EFL to a very small group of people for free. The rest of the dutch people may pay for it. Your friend get it for free.
The idea behind cryptomoney is decentralisation. No centralisation around one guy and his friends. I bet you never worked at all. One of those very rich first adopters, i presume?
Anybody can participate. We are building a network. EFL is not being sold or dumped. We are addressing personal interest and loyalty. We are not addressing investors in the first place. Decentralisation is our goal.
Your goal is making a small group very rich. No big deal. Every cryptocoin does.
Everybody should have a fair chance to participate. When we would sell it, sure there would be more budget to market and reach investors that might pump the price. We rather seek sympathy and build on loyalty.
If you really would like to have new participants, you go "the boer op" as the say in Ducth. Tell the people who you are. Nobody knows. Tell them what cryptomoney is. May 1000 people in holland know by now. Tell them waht EFL is. Only the people you throw money at know about it.
Quote from: JorisGoedbloed on March 13, 2018, 01:12:50 PM
In my opinion, giving away things for free tells people it's useless and worthless.
Luckily the free market determines price. Not your opinion. We are not giving EFL away. We let people earn their share.
Quote from: JorisGoedbloed on March 13, 2018, 01:12:50 PM
Please tell us why this foundation of you has no plans or any vision for the future on your website? Do you have any vision or ideas? Where you're heading with your EFL-coin?
This is not a question. It sounds like sheer negative propaganda and it is completely untrue. We offer you weeks of reading and plenty of summaries. Go read https://e-gulden.org/index.php/The_e-gulden_oerushield or http://egulden.org/downloads/A%20response%20to%20the%20already%20notorious%20EBA%20report%20final.pdf and we expect some excuses.
Your readers may expect excuses. Do you really think people can read this? Come on. Give it to an experienced write en let hem do the writing. Let hem translate this dutch/english stuff to real dutch everybody can understand.
Quote from: JorisGoedbloed on March 13, 2018, 01:12:50 PM
Everything on your coin is secret. Why do you hide everything?
That is the exact opposite of the truth. Nothing is hidden except for some private keys.
Ok. Who are you? Where can i meet you? Where's a picture of you? Where's your telephonenumber? When is your next meeting? Do you really exist? are you female? male? Same for they other people. What's your plan? When do you execute i
I read you're coin exists 4 years. Show me a timeline with all the highlights. Btw. A bad company is gone after 4 years...How do you manage to exist at all?
Quote from: JorisGoedbloed on March 13, 2018, 01:12:50 PM
Tell me (or us) about the future of EFL. Show me your plans. They must be there, I suppose. Tell me why I should trust you?
There is no "me" or "us". There is just https://github.com/Electronic-Gulden-Foundation/egulden, a blockchain that is distributed a thousand times and a community that cherishes it. You are welcome to be part of it.
so you admit there's really nothing. Just some computercode. Well, that's the first good answer i get. I like to meet you guys. When and where do you meet? Soms café will do, i suppose? Do you have some office somewhere? No telephone. I like to talk to people face to face. When is the next groupmeeting? and where?
Quote from: JorisGoedbloed on March 13, 2018, 01:12:50 PM
So i hope you'll answer my questions. Why would I buy EFL on the same moment you guys are dumping it?
Well the answer is there. Judge for yourself, but I suggest you do some homework before you get back
[/quote]
may i suggest some homework too?
1. a book writing text in dutch for dummies
2. websdesign for dummies
3. how to handle people en prospects for dummies
4. marketing for dummies
5. promotion for dummies
6. graphical design for dummies
and then start over. get more people. get more skilled people. Not just millenials like you. There's more on the planet, you know.
face it. This coin is really a total disaster.. It should be forbidden you try to get money from innocent people, not being one your friends. Maybe it has a sound technique...It seems to have,
but a coin needs people, you know? people to use it. People to tell about it. Not just your small group of friends.
a last advice: Don't assume a guy with a lot of good questions didn't read you stuff. I did. I tried, i should say.
Presumptions like that make you look stupid. Not the guy with the questions.
Joris
April 08, 2018, 04:47:57 AM
Hi ,
Any plans to add more exposure to this coin by adding it to other exchanges such us Upbit or binance?
Thank you !
Any plans to add more exposure to this coin by adding it to other exchanges such us Upbit or binance?
Thank you !
March 18, 2018, 08:25:35 PM
............By the way, this monday is our 3th aniversary .......
Well let's party then! Tomorrow 12:17:12 not the third but fourth aniversary! Time flies when you are having fun. It sure were four exiting years. We'll be there and more to come!
Oops, it's Liberland who celebrates 3 years in 1 month, sorry for mixing that up. I hope the statement will go out today. If not, then later this week and I've prepared a steemit post for today, anyway: "Happy birthday!"
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