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Bad things can happen to us unexpectedly. We can't always prevent them. But its our actions AFTER they have happened that define who we are. So stop pointing fingers and blaming each other. Come up with a plan and move on!
yeah I had to eat a 70 BTC loss with the collapse of MTgox, it was totally my responsibility. I have moved on wiser for it ; that's why I bought my faircoins on NXT-e then immediately withdrew them to my wallet, no more hot wallets for me.
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How to upgrade wallet in Ubuntu? Just build it again?
member
Activity: 195
Merit: 10
Bad things can happen to us unexpectedly. We can't always prevent them. But its our actions AFTER they have happened that define who we are. So stop pointing fingers and blaming each other. Come up with a plan and move on!
full member
Activity: 168
Merit: 101
Grin 我什么都不想说了!作者剩下的1500万,确实已经发送出来了!你已经上了平台,有人也说及时通知你了,但是你们的反应确这么慢。
我们客户在你们平台交易,您连这点的安全都不能解决吗,确实有国高的风范!
散户是无辜的,作者做了自己该做的,平台。你咋说。你无缘无故的就扣留币了。您们没有一点安全意识吗。
您的平台真的想做大吗。

请问,你是马甲吗?   作者联系过我们两次,一次在 BTT里, 一次通过我们网站的 "支持“
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Hi, Faircoin has been forked. please stop trading it. we're working to undo the damage and we'll let you know as soon as the issue is resolve one way or another. thank you, faircoin dev team
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论坛时间需要 + 8  也就是中国时间:   28日 凌晨 6:00  ,没有人会天天盯着论坛的。 作者应该及时给我们发邮件,我们都有手机提醒的,客服是 24小时在线。

作者给我们网站支持发送支持是 28日 9:00 (UTC :  2014-03-28 1:00 ) 我们有邮件为证, 9:10 分我们就关闭了存取款。

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我们收到的错误存款来自于  27日 17:05  ---  27日 20:05


Status: 0/unconfirmed
Date: 2014/3/27 19:01
From: unknown
To: fJ7BxMa2B1waqXXyVccVoKf5HMNb2T7sXy (own address)
Credit: 1500000.00 FAC
Net amount: +1500000.00 FAC
Transaction ID: 8151b8834bcfe2651d97b581015abf1485769c08b880ca2f6f42f70da8e327b6

Status: 0/unconfirmed
Date: 2014/3/27 18:38
From: unknown
To: fJ7BxMa2B1waqXXyVccVoKf5HMNb2T7sXy (own address)
Credit: 5000000.00 FAC
Net amount: +5000000.00 FAC
Transaction ID: 98954b1a8bb6448b2c6c83de2620bac1833a0e1206e18550ce2a152218653030

Status: 0/unconfirmed
Date: 2014/3/27 17:21
From: unknown
To: fJ7BxMa2B1waqXXyVccVoKf5HMNb2T7sXy (own address)
Credit: 400000.00 FAC
Net amount: +400000.00 FAC
Transaction ID: 824d512eef5c70ca8a94c4b940b3cf87c14d922a7fb14184999ad4f6593be3a7

Status: 0/unconfirmed
Date: 2014/3/27 17:05
From: unknown
To: fJ7BxMa2B1waqXXyVccVoKf5HMNb2T7sXy (own address)
Credit: 50000.00 FAC
Net amount: +50000.00 FAC
Transaction ID: 661fbb4c486793e30654c20945c183317027b45e983a0f5900e95d7f53e8eeab

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全部早于任何作者通知我们的时间! 在FAC问题上,NXT-E 没有任何过失!

Yes, you did nothing wrong. Nothing.
It's all the dev's and users' fault.

How about our real FAC deposited before fork?
How do you want to deal with them?
We all know these real coins are still in your wallet.
I want them back. Thank you.
Yes please give them back so we can sort out he next problem, lets move forward, the users were warned
member
Activity: 64
Merit: 10
Grin 我什么都不想说了!作者剩下的1500万,确实已经发送出来了!你已经上了平台,有人也说及时通知你了,但是你们的反应确这么慢。
我们客户在你们平台交易,您连这点的安全都不能解决吗,确实有国高的风范!
散户是无辜的,作者做了自己该做的,平台。你咋说。你无缘无故的就扣留币了。您们没有一点安全意识吗。
您的平台真的想做大吗。

请问,你是马甲吗?   作者联系过我们两次,一次在 BTT里, 一次通过我们网站的 "支持“
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« Sent to: nxt-e.com  on: 2014-03-27, 22:11:17 »
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Hi, Faircoin has been forked. please stop trading it. we're working to undo the damage and we'll let you know as soon as the issue is resolve one way or another. thank you, faircoin dev team
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论坛时间需要 + 8  也就是中国时间:   28日 凌晨 6:00  ,没有人会天天盯着论坛的。 作者应该及时给我们发邮件,我们都有手机提醒的,客服是 24小时在线。

作者给我们网站支持发送支持是 28日 9:00 (UTC :  2014-03-28 1:00 ) 我们有邮件为证, 9:10 分我们就关闭了存取款。

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我们收到的错误存款来自于  27日 17:05  ---  27日 20:05


Status: 0/unconfirmed
Date: 2014/3/27 19:01
From: unknown
To: fJ7BxMa2B1waqXXyVccVoKf5HMNb2T7sXy (own address)
Credit: 1500000.00 FAC
Net amount: +1500000.00 FAC
Transaction ID: 8151b8834bcfe2651d97b581015abf1485769c08b880ca2f6f42f70da8e327b6

Status: 0/unconfirmed
Date: 2014/3/27 18:38
From: unknown
To: fJ7BxMa2B1waqXXyVccVoKf5HMNb2T7sXy (own address)
Credit: 5000000.00 FAC
Net amount: +5000000.00 FAC
Transaction ID: 98954b1a8bb6448b2c6c83de2620bac1833a0e1206e18550ce2a152218653030

Status: 0/unconfirmed
Date: 2014/3/27 17:21
From: unknown
To: fJ7BxMa2B1waqXXyVccVoKf5HMNb2T7sXy (own address)
Credit: 400000.00 FAC
Net amount: +400000.00 FAC
Transaction ID: 824d512eef5c70ca8a94c4b940b3cf87c14d922a7fb14184999ad4f6593be3a7

Status: 0/unconfirmed
Date: 2014/3/27 17:05
From: unknown
To: fJ7BxMa2B1waqXXyVccVoKf5HMNb2T7sXy (own address)
Credit: 50000.00 FAC
Net amount: +50000.00 FAC
Transaction ID: 661fbb4c486793e30654c20945c183317027b45e983a0f5900e95d7f53e8eeab

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全部早于任何作者通知我们的时间! 在FAC问题上,NXT-E 没有任何过失!

Yes, you did nothing wrong. Nothing.
It's all the dev's and users' fault.

How about our real FAC deposited before fork?
How do you want to deal with them?
We all know these real coins are still in your wallet.
I want them back. Thank you.
full member
Activity: 168
Merit: 101
You misunderstood me! I mean the balance before fork happened!
That's the REAL coin in the right blockchain which the user deposited into NXT-E before fork.



Yes, if the amounts were sent before the fork to the exchange and not traded, then NXT-E will have to cover those losses unfortunately.

But in other cases, the exchange is not to blame.

Well actually the legitamate balances held at NXT-e and not traded are technically not losses as the account holders have clear title to those FAC so they should be returned to the owners as they have nothing to do with the theft.

Yes, you are right.
Technically, NXT-E have all the balances in their wallet as they sync it which is legit before fork.
There is not reason for NXT-E to eat these REAL coin of users.
The loss comes only from the fake ~5-6millions coins, which cashed out about 7-8BTC.

In brief, the real FAC are still there, in the NXT-E's wallet.
The loss is BTC, belong to those users buying the "cheap"  FAC yesterday.




correct
member
Activity: 64
Merit: 10
You misunderstood me! I mean the balance before fork happened!
That's the REAL coin in the right blockchain which the user deposited into NXT-E before fork.



Yes, if the amounts were sent before the fork to the exchange and not traded, then NXT-E will have to cover those losses unfortunately.

But in other cases, the exchange is not to blame.

Well actually the legitamate balances held at NXT-e and not traded are technically not losses as the account holders have clear title to those FAC so they should be returned to the owners as they have nothing to do with the theft.

Yes, you are right.
Technically, NXT-E have all the balances in their wallet as they sync it which is legit before fork.
There is not reason for NXT-E to eat these REAL coin of users.
The loss comes only from the fake ~5-6millions coins, which cashed out about 7-8BTC.

In brief, the real FAC are still there, in the NXT-E's wallet.
The loss is BTC, belong to those users buying the "cheap"  FAC yesterday.


member
Activity: 112
Merit: 10
Grin 我什么都不想说了!作者剩下的1500万,确实已经发送出来了!你已经上了平台,有人也说及时通知你了,但是你们的反应确这么慢。
我们客户在你们平台交易,您连这点的安全都不能解决吗,确实有国高的风范!
散户是无辜的,作者做了自己该做的,平台。你咋说。你无缘无故的就扣留币了。您们没有一点安全意识吗。
您的平台真的想做大吗。

请问,你是马甲吗?   作者联系过我们两次,一次在 BTT里, 一次通过我们网站的 "支持“
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« Sent to: nxt-e.com  on: 2014-03-27, 22:11:17 »
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Hi, Faircoin has been forked. please stop trading it. we're working to undo the damage and we'll let you know as soon as the issue is resolve one way or another. thank you, faircoin dev team
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论坛时间需要 + 8  也就是中国时间:   28日 凌晨 6:00  ,没有人会天天盯着论坛的。 作者应该及时给我们发邮件,我们都有手机提醒的,客服是 24小时在线。

作者给我们网站支持发送支持是 28日 9:00 (UTC :  2014-03-28 1:00 ) 我们有邮件为证, 9:10 分我们就关闭了存取款。

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------  

我们收到的错误存款来自于  27日 17:05  ---  27日 20:05


Status: 0/unconfirmed
Date: 2014/3/27 19:01
From: unknown
To: fJ7BxMa2B1waqXXyVccVoKf5HMNb2T7sXy (own address)
Credit: 1500000.00 FAC
Net amount: +1500000.00 FAC
Transaction ID: 8151b8834bcfe2651d97b581015abf1485769c08b880ca2f6f42f70da8e327b6

Status: 0/unconfirmed
Date: 2014/3/27 18:38
From: unknown
To: fJ7BxMa2B1waqXXyVccVoKf5HMNb2T7sXy (own address)
Credit: 5000000.00 FAC
Net amount: +5000000.00 FAC
Transaction ID: 98954b1a8bb6448b2c6c83de2620bac1833a0e1206e18550ce2a152218653030

Status: 0/unconfirmed
Date: 2014/3/27 17:21
From: unknown
To: fJ7BxMa2B1waqXXyVccVoKf5HMNb2T7sXy (own address)
Credit: 400000.00 FAC
Net amount: +400000.00 FAC
Transaction ID: 824d512eef5c70ca8a94c4b940b3cf87c14d922a7fb14184999ad4f6593be3a7

Status: 0/unconfirmed
Date: 2014/3/27 17:05
From: unknown
To: fJ7BxMa2B1waqXXyVccVoKf5HMNb2T7sXy (own address)
Credit: 50000.00 FAC
Net amount: +50000.00 FAC
Transaction ID: 661fbb4c486793e30654c20945c183317027b45e983a0f5900e95d7f53e8eeab

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全部早于任何作者通知我们的时间! 在FAC问题上,NXT-E 没有任何过失!
full member
Activity: 168
Merit: 101
You misunderstood me! I mean the balance before fork happened!
That's the REAL coin in the right blockchain which the user deposited into NXT-E before fork.



Yes, if the amounts were sent before the fork to the exchange and not traded, then NXT-E will have to cover those losses unfortunately.

But in other cases, the exchange is not to blame.

Well actually the legitamate balances held at NXT-e and not traded are technically not losses as the account holders have clear title to those FAC so they should be returned to the owners as they have nothing to do with the theft.
sr. member
Activity: 406
Merit: 250
Looks like we won't need the static IP, it's connecting pretty well

new windows wallet can be found here:
https://mega.co.nz/#!0g4BBBgQ!dw7pym94UVjX4wKFMTmbVIAEMaV0_4WlbbbGoyyr1Wk

source code on github is updated

you have 2 options:
*** whatever happens, back up wallet.dat

option 1
update faircoind/faircoin-qt with new version, and run
faircoind -rescan
this will invalidate the corrupt blockchain and rebuild the correct one. this will take a few mintues
please do this option if you can!

option 2
backup wallet.dat
remove all files except wallet.dat and faircoin.conf in FairCoin directory from %appdata% (windows) or ~/.FairCoin (linux)
update faircoind and faircoin-qt and run normally
this will download the blockchain from a good node. option 1 is preferred for network security

please don't mine if you don't have at least 2-3 connected nodes




So 1st option only require to download the new version without deleting the previous one and run fairocoind?

option one  cannot find the method...so  have to try option two

No. Try option one.

Download wallet, extract wallet to C:/Faircoin

Open terminal (CMD) with (Windows Key + R), write  cmd, press enter

CD C:/Faircoin
faircoind -rescan

wait 10 minutes
full member
Activity: 182
Merit: 100
Looks like we won't need the static IP, it's connecting pretty well

new windows wallet can be found here:
https://mega.co.nz/#!0g4BBBgQ!dw7pym94UVjX4wKFMTmbVIAEMaV0_4WlbbbGoyyr1Wk

source code on github is updated

you have 2 options:
*** whatever happens, back up wallet.dat

option 1
update faircoind/faircoin-qt with new version, and run
faircoind -rescan
this will invalidate the corrupt blockchain and rebuild the correct one. this will take a few mintues
please do this option if you can!

option 2
backup wallet.dat
remove all files except wallet.dat and faircoin.conf in FairCoin directory from %appdata% (windows) or ~/.FairCoin (linux)
update faircoind and faircoin-qt and run normally
this will download the blockchain from a good node. option 1 is preferred for network security

please don't mine if you don't have at least 2-3 connected nodes




So 1st option only require to download the new version without deleting the previous one and run fairocoind?

option one  cannot find the method...so  have to try option two
sr. member
Activity: 406
Merit: 250
You misunderstood me! I mean the balance before fork happened!
That's the REAL coin in the right blockchain which the user deposited into NXT-E before fork.



Yes, if the amounts were sent before the fork to the exchange and not traded, then NXT-E will have to cover those losses unfortunately.

But in other cases, the exchange is not to blame.

BTW NXT-E, you have no reason to think the dev is the attacker. Why would he destroy the reputation of his own coin?? He invested so much time/effort into the distribution model.

About the 15M missing coins: It's really easy to corrupt a wallet by sending multiple transactions. I actually did corrupt my Faircoin wallet twice three days ago but fortunately I had backups.
member
Activity: 70
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there is no combine option
technically, it's just not possible

member
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We hope FAC dev can combine 2 forks together. After all, users bought those "void" coins. We spent a whole day to talk with Fac Dev on this issue. However, they insist us to eat the loss.

The correct things you should do are:
1. Sync the new wallet. Let's your wallet back to the right blockchain.

2. Correct the user's balance back to the time before the fork.

3. Discuss with all involved users how to deal with the left issue.

The thief use the fake coins to cash out about 7 BTC.  


See how the Polonix owner did after they got stolen.
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Dear Users of Poloniex,

As you may have heard, a hacker recently used an exploit to steal 12.3% of the Bitcoins on Poloniex. Details on how this happened can be found in this announcement post: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/btc-stolen-from-poloniex-499580

In order to keep Poloniex solvent, all BTC balances were deducted yesterday by 12.3%. No further deductions will occur. As soon as I have time to put it up, you will be able to view exactly how much BTC you are missing on your Balances page.

I deeply regret that this happened, and am committed to repaying the debt and making Poloniex absolutely secure. Any exchange fees collected since the incident will be used to pay back the debt at regular intervals. Exchange fees will not be raised.

Additionally, shares of Poloniex may be issued, the profits from which would be used to repay the debt and hire highly qualified security experts. The timing and details of this, and indeed whether it will occur, have not been decided. I invite you all to give your input on these decisions by voting in the following poll and, if desired, leaving a comment: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/poll-how-to-deal-with-stolen-btc-on-poloniex-500578

Since the incident occurred, the way withdrawals and order creation are handled has been redesigned so that all such requests are added to a global command queue, then processed sequentially. More automated checks for consistency of balances have been added. Larger percentages of coins have been moved into cold storage. And as of today, I am searching for additional developers to bolster the security of Poloniex as much as possible, and as soon as possible.

Here are some specific details about the hacker.
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No. That's the wrong thing to do. There is no need to correct the user balances.

People took a risk and decided to put buy orders even after hearing the events.

They're the one to blame, not the exchange.

You misunderstood me! I mean the balance before fork happened!
That's the REAL coin in the right blockchain which the user deposited into NXT-E before fork.



sr. member
Activity: 350
Merit: 250
wow @nxt-e.com
you really like to put all the faults on dev team
and staying with forked blockchane
what is it?
how much did you invest in fake FAC during fork?
sr. member
Activity: 266
Merit: 250
as i see it no fake coins were deposited to poloniex right? so they could simply move on?
member
Activity: 64
Merit: 10
Grin 我什么都不想说了!作者剩下的1500万,确实已经发送出来了!你已经上了平台,有人也说及时通知你了,但是你们的反应确这么慢。
我们客户在你们平台交易,您连这点的安全都不能解决吗,确实有国高的风范!
散户是无辜的,作者做了自己该做的,平台。你咋说。你无缘无故的就扣留币了。您们没有一点安全意识吗。
您的平台真的想做大吗。

Someone informed them at the first time by QQ. No response at all.

I don't know how NXT-E will deal with those REAL coin which is deposited before fork!
full member
Activity: 182
Merit: 100
We hope FAC dev can combine 2 forks together. After all, users bought those "void" coins. We spent a whole day to talk with Fac Dev on this issue. However, they insist us to eat the loss.

What is the total loss you would have to eat if the forks were left uncombined?

I dont want to combine!!!
sr. member
Activity: 406
Merit: 250
We hope FAC dev can combine 2 forks together. After all, users bought those "void" coins. We spent a whole day to talk with Fac Dev on this issue. However, they insist us to eat the loss.

The correct things you should do are:
1. Sync the new wallet. Let's your wallet back to the right blockchain.

2. Correct the user's balance back to the time before the fork.

3. Discuss with all involved users how to deal with the left issue.

The thief use the fake coins to cash out about 7 BTC.  


See how the Polonix owner did after they got stolen.
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Dear Users of Poloniex,

As you may have heard, a hacker recently used an exploit to steal 12.3% of the Bitcoins on Poloniex. Details on how this happened can be found in this announcement post: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/btc-stolen-from-poloniex-499580

In order to keep Poloniex solvent, all BTC balances were deducted yesterday by 12.3%. No further deductions will occur. As soon as I have time to put it up, you will be able to view exactly how much BTC you are missing on your Balances page.

I deeply regret that this happened, and am committed to repaying the debt and making Poloniex absolutely secure. Any exchange fees collected since the incident will be used to pay back the debt at regular intervals. Exchange fees will not be raised.

Additionally, shares of Poloniex may be issued, the profits from which would be used to repay the debt and hire highly qualified security experts. The timing and details of this, and indeed whether it will occur, have not been decided. I invite you all to give your input on these decisions by voting in the following poll and, if desired, leaving a comment: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/poll-how-to-deal-with-stolen-btc-on-poloniex-500578

Since the incident occurred, the way withdrawals and order creation are handled has been redesigned so that all such requests are added to a global command queue, then processed sequentially. More automated checks for consistency of balances have been added. Larger percentages of coins have been moved into cold storage. And as of today, I am searching for additional developers to bolster the security of Poloniex as much as possible, and as soon as possible.

Here are some specific details about the hacker.
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No. That's the wrong thing to do. There is no need to correct the user balances.

People took a risk and decided to put buy orders even after hearing the events.

They're the one to blame, not the exchange.
full member
Activity: 140
Merit: 100
好吧,我错了,既然是三方,那第三方也要发表了哈哈
NXT-E:bittrex第一时间就关闭FAC交易了,polo也只是被砸了一波,就关闭FAC的提现和交易了。我们群主昨晚九点左右就提醒你们FAC出现分叉了,但是一直到四小时后出现砸盘,你们没有任何反应。
The dev:发个币都能把币发丢的你们,是凭的什么这么快速的解决假币的问题的?我好像记得一开始丢失的币,你们花了一星期才找到的吧。这次神奇出现的几百万,你们花几小时就找到了?
Users: 我们的币在哪里?免费发的币,免费收回了哈哈。
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