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ekoja

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Quote from: kcanup on March 22, 2014, 05:54:31 PM

Hi,

I understand your frustration, however there has 100% been bot activity providing the vast majority of the votes for the coin. For example - three users have created around 35 accounts between them, deposited a tiny amount of DGB and made a single trade, who each vote systematically 5x per hour 24hrs a day.

We will not being going back on the decision to suspend FAC for 24 hours. We will bring it back after this time period with 20% of the free votes in tact and keeping 100% of the BTC payment votes.

I'm afraid there was nothing we could do as other coins have been voting fairly, you should be directing your anger at the people who set up the bots and tried to cheat the system.

Regards,
Jay
MintPal

No, we direct our anger at an idiot who allows such a flaw to exist in their website. What did the backend for this website run you 50 grand? Yet people can make 50 accounts deposit 10 dgb and bot vote.. Mintpal owned by a 16 year old?

Update your system, limit accounts per IP, allow 1 vote per BTC in a users account, etc. Problem solved.

Take it easy.. The true reason making MintPal angry is NOT the unfairness of using bot-voting, but the fact they will earn less money!

Buy votes: YES!
Otherwise: NO!

It's their logic.

kcanup

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Hi,

I understand your frustration, however there has 100% been bot activity providing the vast majority of the votes for the coin. For example - three users have created around 35 accounts between them, deposited a tiny amount of DGB and made a single trade, who each vote systematically 5x per hour 24hrs a day.

We will not being going back on the decision to suspend FAC for 24 hours. We will bring it back after this time period with 20% of the free votes in tact and keeping 100% of the BTC payment votes.

I'm afraid there was nothing we could do as other coins have been voting fairly, you should be directing your anger at the people who set up the bots and tried to cheat the system.

Regards,
Jay
MintPal

ekoja

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Quote from: y3804 on March 22, 2014, 05:45:58 PM

Here's what I am suggesting to the Mintpal devs;

Your security protocols need major improvements. Why are you allowing registration with pro-spam email domains such as 10minutemail.com?
You should only allow domains which require comprehensive verification (i.e. referer, phone/text verification, e.g. Hotmail, Gmail, Yahoo).
I would highly recommend stripping ONLY the bot votes (i.e not sent from a verified domain, not a fixed IP location) and only allowing ONE account / IP address (which you failed to implement).

Destroying a coin's reputation for its bot voters is completely unacceptable.

And there is still another possibility that the FairCoin haters will use bot to 'HELP' us.

y3804

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Here's what I am suggesting to the Mintpal devs;

Your security protocols need major improvements.

1. Why are you allowing registration with pro-spam email domains such as 10minutemail.com?
You should only allow domains which require comprehensive verification (i.e. referer, phone/text verification, e.g. Hotmail, Gmail, Yahoo).

2. The one transaction requirement is BS. Please consider adding an account creation date requirement of at least two weeks.

3. Why are you allowing more than one account / IP address? I was able to register multiple accounts on a single network (I never tested the upper limit, but I assume you failed to implement a check). CloudFlare is not a smart bot detector

4. You should ban VPN/TOR nodes, (I see they AREN'T banned). I'm able to access my Mintpal account from TOR.

LASTLY, I would highly recommend stripping ONLY the bot votes (i.e not sent from a verified anti-spam domain, not a fixed IP location, etc.)

Destroying a coin's reputation for its bot voters is completely unacceptable.YOU failed to implement checks to ban bot voters. Don't shift the blame on the entire coin community.

If you fail to answer my concerns, I'll stop trading at Mintpal entirely.

ekoja

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Quote from: y3804 on March 22, 2014, 05:29:43 PM

Quote from: jiuge on March 22, 2014, 05:27:41 PM

Not quite big thing stop one day apply or just start again.
Grin

We have big community nothing serious.
We recovery from dead last time，this time we wil overcome unfair
Regards Fac china

Exactly. I'm speaking to Mintpal devs atm and asking if they can try to remove only the 'botted' votes and keep the hard work.

Don't panic. We're a big community with legit workers here.

+1

y3804

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Quote from: jiuge on March 22, 2014, 05:27:41 PM

Not quite big thing stop one day apply or just start again.
Grin

We have big community nothing serious.
We recovery from dead last time，this time we wil overcome unfair
Regards Fac china

Exactly. I'm speaking to Mintpal devs atm and asking if they can try to remove only the 'botted' votes and keep the hard work.

Don't panic. We're a big community with legit workers here.

asdf_files

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Faircoin is so fair.

jiuge

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Not quite big thing stop one day apply or just start again.
Grin

We have big community nothing serious.
We recovery from dead last time，this time we wil overcome unfair
Regards Fac china

ekoja

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Quote from: kcanup on March 22, 2014, 05:20:03 PM

I submitted that email format as a high priority ticket, lmao!! Grin

Been voting whole two fucking days so they need to know its a high priority message from user Roll Eyes

Its only matter of time, now also in coinmarketcap, FAC will get more attention and we surely will see more trading in coming days then any exchange will add it, i believe. No Panic!!! Cool

You are right. No Panic. Mintpal is not the only one. We have more choice.

unick

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Quote from: wangdaniel2014 on March 22, 2014, 04:51:27 PM

Calm down!!

Only 24hr suspended and 80% votes removed.

Not too bad, isn't it?

maybe we are too hurry up.

This is BS, we paid and invested time in making those votes... REALLY BS 80% ! off !!!! so basically all the non paying votes are going to be stripped out ?!?!?!?!? yeah right!

ekoja

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Don't be too angry.
We will still have 20K+ votes. And we still have all community support.
Let's vote SMOOTHLY.

kcanup

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I submitted that email format as a high priority ticket, lmao!! Grin

Been voting whole two fucking days so they need to know its a high priority message from user Roll Eyes

Its only matter of time, now also in coinmarketcap, FAC will get more attention and we surely will see more trading in coming days then any exchange will add it, i believe. No Panic!!! Cool

kained

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Trying to decide whether or not to hold or sell.

I can't predict the future on what the value of this coin will be. Seems to be fluctuating at nxt-e.

Morquor

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Quote from: MinersUnion on March 22, 2014, 05:02:14 PM

They didn't provide any proof that we used bots. It's logical that our sheer number and dedicated effort might look strange, but it doesn't mean that there aren't humans behind the votes. They just took down the coin, and what happens to all the money we put into this? Somebody getting a refund? I didn't think so.

So feel free to paste this message into your mail client and blast MintPal with it. Maybe if they felt what it's like to have the FairCoin community storm a goal, they will understand we're legit.

Dear Mintpal team,

I don't understand how it is possible that you've removed Fair-Coin from the vote list. We are a very large and dedicated community acting together to get the coin into the exchange, voting legitimately every hour, with friends from all over the world.

Moreover, we have donated real BTC for our cause, and now you claim we are using bots? We are thousands of FairCoin users. That is the idea behind the coin. I don't know what might register as bots in your books, because our number and passion might look strange compared to other coins. But check out our community and you will learn we are all real people.

I will be suspending my MintPal activity for the near future until we are provided with evidence that bots were used, or the state of our coin restored in the vote system. We are a community with a coin, not a scam.

Yours,
-your handle-

Mail sent.

y3804

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Quote from: Sebastien256 on March 22, 2014, 05:12:02 PM

I e-mail them not to remove the BTC vote (at the very least!), otherwise they are thieft
Everyone should do the same.

Only the public votes are stripped, not the BTC votes

ekoja

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Quote from: MinersUnion on March 22, 2014, 05:09:16 PM

Quote from: Sebastien256 on March 22, 2014, 05:04:13 PM

Quote from: MinersUnion on March 22, 2014, 05:02:14 PM

They didn't provide any proof that we used bots. It's logical that our sheer number and dedicated effort might look strange, but it doesn't mean that there aren't humans behind the votes. They just took down the coin, and what happens to all the money we put into this? Somebody getting a refund? I didn't think so.

So feel free to paste this message into your mail client and blast MintPal with it. Maybe if they felt what it's like to have the FairCoin community storm a goal, they will understand we're legit.

Dear Mintpal team,

I don't understand how it is possible that you've removed Fair-Coin from the vote list. We are a very large and dedicated community acting together to get the coin into the exchange, voting legitimately every hour, with friends from all over the world.

Moreover, we have donated real BTC for our cause, and now you claim we are using bots? We are thousands of FairCoin users. That is the idea behind the coin. I don't know what might register as bots in your books, because our number and passion might look strange compared to other coins. But check out our community and you will learn we are all real people.

I will be suspending my MintPal activity for the near future until we are provided with evidence that bots were used, or the state of our coin restored in the vote system. We are a community with a coin, not a scam.

Yours,
-your handle-

Yes send at :
[email protected]

Thanks for the support. Please someone send this to the chinese group over QQ.

Chinese group is sleeping now. Few hours later, they will give the response.

Sebastien256

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I e-mail them not to remove the BTC vote (at the very least!), otherwise they are thieft
Everyone should do the same.

MinersUnion

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Quote from: Sebastien256 on March 22, 2014, 05:04:13 PM

Quote from: MinersUnion on March 22, 2014, 05:02:14 PM

They didn't provide any proof that we used bots. It's logical that our sheer number and dedicated effort might look strange, but it doesn't mean that there aren't humans behind the votes. They just took down the coin, and what happens to all the money we put into this? Somebody getting a refund? I didn't think so.

So feel free to paste this message into your mail client and blast MintPal with it. Maybe if they felt what it's like to have the FairCoin community storm a goal, they will understand we're legit.

Dear Mintpal team,

I don't understand how it is possible that you've removed Fair-Coin from the vote list. We are a very large and dedicated community acting together to get the coin into the exchange, voting legitimately every hour, with friends from all over the world.

Moreover, we have donated real BTC for our cause, and now you claim we are using bots? We are thousands of FairCoin users. That is the idea behind the coin. I don't know what might register as bots in your books, because our number and passion might look strange compared to other coins. But check out our community and you will learn we are all real people.

I will be suspending my MintPal activity for the near future until we are provided with evidence that bots were used, or the state of our coin restored in the vote system. We are a community with a coin, not a scam.

Yours,
-your handle-

Yes send at :
[email protected]

Thanks for the support. Please someone send this to the chinese group over QQ.

Sebastien256

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Quote from: MinersUnion on March 22, 2014, 05:02:14 PM

They didn't provide any proof that we used bots. It's logical that our sheer number and dedicated effort might look strange, but it doesn't mean that there aren't humans behind the votes. They just took down the coin, and what happens to all the money we put into this? Somebody getting a refund? I didn't think so.

So feel free to paste this message into your mail client and blast MintPal with it. Maybe if they felt what it's like to have the FairCoin community storm a goal, they will understand we're legit.

Dear Mintpal team,

I don't understand how it is possible that you've removed Fair-Coin from the vote list. We are a very large and dedicated community acting together to get the coin into the exchange, voting legitimately every hour, with friends from all over the world.

Moreover, we have donated real BTC for our cause, and now you claim we are using bots? We are thousands of FairCoin users. That is the idea behind the coin. I don't know what might register as bots in your books, because our number and passion might look strange compared to other coins. But check out our community and you will learn we are all real people.

I will be suspending my MintPal activity for the near future until we are provided with evidence that bots were used, or the state of our coin restored to the vote system. I simply cannot believe this is the case.

Yours,
-your handle-

Yes send at :
[email protected]

miramare

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Quote from: y3804 on March 22, 2014, 04:54:28 PM

Yup, if my calculations are correct, we're back to 21400 votes.

Not surely, maybe even less.
Delay maybe is not a bad thing.

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