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Topic: [ANN][FLO] A Worldwide Public Record | Alexandria | ETDB | Medici | 0.15 Segwit - page 82. (Read 516115 times)

legendary
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How does FLO/Alexandria compare to VTorrent?
newbie
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"The technicals on this coin right now are abysmal. Go to bittrex and select the maximum time period. Like a lot of pump coins it looks like someone tried to use fake volume to create a technical pattern. It's laughable."

No volume is fake volume.  By that statement alone you have disqualified yourself from even deserving a response.

By 'fake volume' I meant that it looked like someone had opened two accounts and was selling to themself or to a cohort.

Technical stuff is useful but when you have a small number of traders and a few people own a large chunk of the equity then it is not as useful.
member
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By that statement alone you have disqualified yourself from even deserving a response.

You wouldn't be writing stories about trading altcoins if you were the master trader you claim to be. You say FLO is liquid but there's an 10% spread on bittrex, 20% spread on cryptsy and 30% across the two.

There are no technicals right now.

Quit being a dick.
sr. member
Activity: 504
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"The technicals on this coin right now are abysmal. Go to bittrex and select the maximum time period. Like a lot of pump coins it looks like someone tried to use fake volume to create a technical pattern. It's laughable."

No volume is fake volume.  By that statement alone you have disqualified yourself from even deserving a response.
newbie
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Actually, your primary assumptions are incorrect, so it sure feels fuddy to me Wink

No, we don't have 40%-80% of the florin out there - in fact Blocktech has less than 5%, and we got what we have almost entirely from mining. My guess as far as the reason that there aren't a lot of sellers is that the few folks who'd been accumulating it over the past year have their eye on this project right now. Obviously I wish we had a lot more of it, but we couldn't afford to spend the minor investments we did get over the past year on anything but development costs (servers, services, developers themselves, feeding them, office space for some time). Our intent really is the project as described, and we are in fact doing it - making something work does take time, so i'm not sure why you're so callously writing it off simply because it hasn't been released publicly yet.

Edit: Also, no, we did not pay for bittrex and polo listings. We emailed them to tell them about Alexandria and they were happy to list the coin.

Anyway, just felt the need to clear up that assumption since it was so far off the mark - no hard feelings tho, I can understand your general distrust of the XYZceo monikers Wink

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I've been trading flo for a long time and obviously someone bought a huge amount in the several weeks before it was mentioned on this thread on March 11, 2015 or so. Every step you have taken so far is consistent with a pump, and not consistent with a serious project.

Again, I have a bunch of florin long term, but am simply offering caution to people buying at this level. Remember, 4 months ago the price was around 1/20 of what it is now. Someone bought up huge amounts. Then the blocktech announcement.

It's a good coin but until the crypto markets recover in general a person should be cautious since this coin has increased a couple thousand percent already on this pump.

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Just an FYI,

The coin is advancing correctly from a technical perspective, i.e. higher lows and higher highs, but we do appear to be entering an area of large overhead resistance near .0018 LTC.  I would advise all the large holders, of whom I am one now also, to not be short sighted.  If you believe in this coin - hold it.  Trust me when I tell you that these coins can run farther than anyone ever imagined.  A 100 fold gain from here is not an outlandish proposition.  Please don't dump on every rise as we go up from here, as you will find it much more profitable to just let the coin run into new all time highs.  Thanks.

http://www.thebitcoinchannel.com/

P.S. Don't blame the guys from Blocktech or Alexandria Project for pumping this coin.  I can assure they are not.  I am accumulating this coin on a very long term basis because I believe in it and it's promise.  From the market testing I have performed so far, the interest in this coin is very strong and very legit.  If there is a dump to this pump it will not be me.

That's almost funny except that there are probably people who will believe you.

The technicals on this coin right now are abysmal. Go to bittrex and select the maximum time period. Like a lot of pump coins it looks like someone tried to use fake volume to create a technical pattern. It's laughable.

The coin has been going up because some person bought a huge amount and the actual float right now is small. That person or group has to keep supporting the price or they will lose their investment.

Again, it's a fine coin I've owned for a long time but the current stuff going on is not helping it long term.
legendary
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sr. member
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Not be unkind, but you seem to be a bit hard of hearing.  I gave you those links to show you that Bitcoin is still the same revolutionary technology, with the same promise, that it was back then in 2011.  FLO adds to it by providing an uncensorable peer to peer messaging/library concept.  Will FLO be the coin that lasts and makes this concept a reality?  I cannot say.  Just as I could not say back in 2011 that Bitcoin would be the one to succeed.  But I could tell you back then, and am telling you now, that these ideas will never go away from this point forward:  encrypted peer to peer money, and encrypted peer to peer libraries.

Not to be unkind, but I hear very well, you might have a hard time reading on the other hand. You just utter general stuff applicable to almost any Alt with no informational depth at all - again - and I am trying to make up my mind what to think of your posts, i.e. to take them serious or not. We are on BCT and not Yahoo Finance. You hardly need to convince anyone of "encrypted peer to peer money" here.

Alright.  Then let me try to be clearer.  The value of uncensorable peer to peer libraries is in my mind at least nearly as revolutionary and transformational as Bitcoin itself.  But back at the time I formed my channel and blog to promote Bitcoin virtually nobody believed it would succeed, and yes that included the majority here on this forum as well.  Why FLO?  Well, other coins can perform this function, but weren't designed to do so.  Why is BTC 61 times more valuable than LTC when they both do the same thing?  One of the reasons is because BTC was first.  Why does Ebay have virtually no competition to speak of?  Craigslist?  Angie's list? 

Because if FLO is the first coin to be used to incorporate this library concept successfully, why bother with another.  The fact that there are very serious people spending a tremendous amount of time doing exactly that tells me that this coin has the best chance of being first.  Bitcoin's move from 1 cent to 1200 was a 120 thousand fold move.  FLO moving 100 fold from here as the crypto markets resume their bull run would not be at all unprecented or even surprising for that matter.   
legendary
Activity: 984
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Not be unkind, but you seem to be a bit hard of hearing.  I gave you those links to show you that Bitcoin is still the same revolutionary technology, with the same promise, that it was back then in 2011.  FLO adds to it by providing an uncensorable peer to peer messaging/library concept.  Will FLO be the coin that lasts and makes this concept a reality?  I cannot say.  Just as I could not say back in 2011 that Bitcoin would be the one to succeed.  But I could tell you back then, and am telling you now, that these ideas will never go away from this point forward:  encrypted peer to peer money, and encrypted peer to peer libraries.

Not to be unkind, but I hear very well, you might have a hard time reading on the other hand. You just utter general stuff applicable to almost any Alt with no informational depth at all - again - and I am trying to make up my mind what to think of your posts, i.e. to take them serious or not. We are on BCT and not Yahoo Finance. You hardly need to convince anyone of "encrypted peer to peer money" here.
sr. member
Activity: 504
Merit: 250
Just an FYI,

The coin is advancing correctly from a technical perspective, i.e. higher lows and higher highs, but we do appear to be entering an area of large overhead resistance near .0018 LTC.  I would advise all the large holders, of whom I am one now also, to not be short sighted.  If you believe in this coin - hold it.  Trust me when I tell you that these coins can run farther than anyone ever imagined.  A 100 fold gain from here is not an outlandish proposition.  Please don't dump on every rise as we go up from here, as you will find it much more profitable to just let the coin run into new all time highs.  Thanks.

http://www.thebitcoinchannel.com/

Not that I fundamentally disagree with you, you did not say that much anyway, but what makes you so confident ("Trust me...")?  

Because I've been here from the beginning:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1X6qQt9ONg

They have thrown everything against us including the kitchen sink and we are still standing.  decentralized crypto is NEVER going away and TPTB are terrified of it, period.  As their systems of control begin to dissolve, there will be a rush to the alternatives.  This technology will be as revolutionary and transformational as the gutenberg press was in its day.

https://youtu.be/5pk9J3bqtm8?t=2m23s


So it`s not related to FLO in particular.

Not be unkind, but you seem to be a bit hard of hearing.  I gave you those links to show you that Bitcoin is still the same revolutionary technology, with the same promise, that it was back then in 2011.  FLO adds to it by providing an uncensorable peer to peer messaging/library concept.  Will FLO be the coin that lasts and makes this concept a reality?  I cannot say.  Just as I could not say back in 2011 that Bitcoin would be the one to succeed.  But I could tell you back then, and am telling you now, that these ideas will never go away from this point forward:  encrypted peer to peer money, and encrypted peer to peer libraries.
legendary
Activity: 984
Merit: 1000
Just an FYI,

The coin is advancing correctly from a technical perspective, i.e. higher lows and higher highs, but we do appear to be entering an area of large overhead resistance near .0018 LTC.  I would advise all the large holders, of whom I am one now also, to not be short sighted.  If you believe in this coin - hold it.  Trust me when I tell you that these coins can run farther than anyone ever imagined.  A 100 fold gain from here is not an outlandish proposition.  Please don't dump on every rise as we go up from here, as you will find it much more profitable to just let the coin run into new all time highs.  Thanks.

http://www.thebitcoinchannel.com/

Not that I fundamentally disagree with you, you did not say that much anyway, but what makes you so confident ("Trust me...")?  

Because I've been here from the beginning:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1X6qQt9ONg

They have thrown everything against us including the kitchen sink and we are still standing.  decentralized crypto is NEVER going away and TPTB are terrified of it, period.  As their systems of control begin to dissolve, there will be a rush to the alternatives.  This technology will be as revolutionary and transformational as the gutenberg press was in its day.

https://youtu.be/5pk9J3bqtm8?t=2m23s


So it`s not related to FLO in particular.
sr. member
Activity: 504
Merit: 250
sr. member
Activity: 504
Merit: 250
Just an FYI,

The coin is advancing correctly from a technical perspective, i.e. higher lows and higher highs, but we do appear to be entering an area of large overhead resistance near .0018 LTC.  I would advise all the large holders, of whom I am one now also, to not be short sighted.  If you believe in this coin - hold it.  Trust me when I tell you that these coins can run farther than anyone ever imagined.  A 100 fold gain from here is not an outlandish proposition.  Please don't dump on every rise as we go up from here, as you will find it much more profitable to just let the coin run into new all time highs.  Thanks.

http://www.thebitcoinchannel.com/

Not that I fundamentally disagree with you, you did not say that much anyway, but what makes you so confident ("Trust me...")?  

Because I've been here from the beginning:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1X6qQt9ONg

They have thrown everything against us including the kitchen sink and we are still standing.  decentralized crypto is NEVER going away and TPTB are terrified of it, period.  As their systems of control begin to dissolve, there will be a rush to the alternatives.  This technology will be as revolutionary and transformational as the gutenberg press was in its day.

https://youtu.be/5pk9J3bqtm8?t=2m23s
legendary
Activity: 984
Merit: 1000
Just an FYI,

The coin is advancing correctly from a technical perspective, i.e. higher lows and higher highs, but we do appear to be entering an area of large overhead resistance near .0018 LTC.  I would advise all the large holders, of whom I am one now also, to not be short sighted.  If you believe in this coin - hold it.  Trust me when I tell you that these coins can run farther than anyone ever imagined.  A 100 fold gain from here is not an outlandish proposition.  Please don't dump on every rise as we go up from here, as you will find it much more profitable to just let the coin run into new all time highs.  Thanks.

http://www.thebitcoinchannel.com/

Not that I fundamentally disagree with you, you did not say that much anyway, but what makes you so confident ("Trust me...")?   
sr. member
Activity: 504
Merit: 250
Just an FYI,

The coin is advancing correctly from a technical perspective, i.e. higher lows and higher highs, but we do appear to be entering an area of large overhead resistance near .0018 LTC.  I would advise all the large holders, of whom I am one now also, to not be short sighted.  If you believe in this coin - hold it.  Trust me when I tell you that these coins can run farther than anyone ever imagined.  A 100 fold gain from here is not an outlandish proposition.  Please don't dump on every rise as we go up from here, as you will find it much more profitable to just let the coin run into new all time highs.  Thanks.

http://www.thebitcoinchannel.com/

P.S. Don't blame the guys from Blocktech or Alexandria Project for pumping this coin.  I can assure they are not.  I am accumulating this coin on a very long term basis because I believe in it and it's promise.  From the market testing I have performed so far, the interest in this coin is very strong and very legit.  If there is a dump to this pump it will not be me.
newbie
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Torrent and IT noob here. I still don`t get the main advantage Alexandria has over the existing solutions, but I am only an occasional user of the whole thing (i.e. the only way I know to handle it is to go to torrentz.eu, look for something, than click on a link and M-Torrent downloads it. That`s what a friend who knows about that stuff told me).

A lot of folks are calling this a better alternative to "the existing solutions" for Torrenting pirated content, because by replacing a website that can be shut down with a blockchain as the torrent index/repository, it is considerably more robust, but I want to be clear that this was not our actual goal - the purpose behind Alexandria is to use the P2P technology that piracy sites rely on for free wide distribution to enable artists to be in direct control of their works and how they are distributed and monetized.
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There are a lot of little problems with your 'project'.

You started the project by buying up a lot of Florincoin, in fact a considerable percentage of all the Florincoin that exist.

Then suddenly it was listed on bittrex and poloniex. I assume you or someone associated paid for that listing. Is that correct?

And so on.

Florincoin is a good long term coin. There is no doubt that when the crypto market recovers it will do well.

But the blocktech project seems to be a simple pump built around an obvious developing trend in crypto, adding on data or block chain features.

If your intent had really been to do the project as described for its own sake you would have done it.

But instead you approach it as a pure marketing scheme. All glitz but little substance. My guess is that a person will be able to get a few days notice of an actual release of anything by watching the trading.

Again, florin is a good coin. It will do well. You probably hold 40% to 80% of the florin that exist so you will make money on it. But the project you describe will only be successful when it is released with no fake 'xyzceo' bullshit.

A lot of data coins are going to have a lot of stuff, and many of them will do well. Florin is one of those. In the short term florin will probably do well because you and your associates bought up so many coins. There aren't a lot of sellers since you have the coins. But in the long term it's prospects aren't helped by crude pumps. Very disappointing that the op was changed to mention block tech. It doesn't reflect well on the Dev.

I still have a lot of Florincoin by the way, so I'm not fudding.

Actually, your primary assumptions are incorrect, so it sure feels fuddy to me Wink

No, we don't have 40%-80% of the florin out there - in fact Blocktech has less than 5%, and we got what we have almost entirely from mining. My guess as far as the reason that there aren't a lot of sellers is that the few folks who'd been accumulating it over the past year have their eye on this project right now. Obviously I wish we had a lot more of it, but we couldn't afford to spend the minor investments we did get over the past year on anything but development costs (servers, services, developers themselves, feeding them, office space for some time). Our intent really is the project as described, and we are in fact doing it - making something work does take time, so i'm not sure why you're so callously writing it off simply because it hasn't been released publicly yet.

Edit: Also, no, we did not pay for bittrex and polo listings. We emailed them to tell them about Alexandria and they were happy to list the coin.

Anyway, just felt the need to clear up that assumption since it was so far off the mark - no hard feelings tho, I can understand your general distrust of the XYZceo monikers Wink

D
newbie
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Torrent and IT noob here. I still don`t get the main advantage Alexandria has over the existing solutions, but I am only an occasional user of the whole thing (i.e. the only way I know to handle it is to go to torrentz.eu, look for something, than click on a link and M-Torrent downloads it. That`s what a friend who knows about that stuff told me).

A lot of folks are calling this a better alternative to "the existing solutions" for Torrenting pirated content, because by replacing a website that can be shut down with a blockchain as the torrent index/repository, it is considerably more robust, but I want to be clear that this was not our actual goal - the purpose behind Alexandria is to use the P2P technology that piracy sites rely on for free wide distribution to enable artists to be in direct control of their works and how they are distributed and monetized.
...

There are a lot of little problems with your 'project'.

You started the project by buying up a lot of Florincoin, in fact a considerable percentage of all the Florincoin that exist.

Then suddenly it was listed on bittrex and poloniex. I assume you or someone associated paid for that listing. Is that correct?

And so on.

Florincoin is a good long term coin. There is no doubt that when the crypto market recovers it will do well.

But the blocktech project seems to be a simple pump built around an obvious developing trend in crypto, adding on data or block chain features.

If your intent had really been to do the project as described for its own sake you would have done it.

But instead you approach it as a pure marketing scheme. All glitz but little substance. My guess is that a person will be able to get a few days notice of an actual release of anything by watching the trading.

Again, florin is a good coin. It will do well. You probably hold 40% to 80% of the florin that exist so you will make money on it. But the project you describe will only be successful when it is released with no fake 'xyzceo' bullshit.

A lot of data coins are going to have a lot of stuff, and many of them will do well. Florin is one of those. In the short term florin will probably do well because you and your associates bought up so many coins. There aren't a lot of sellers since you have the coins. But in the long term it's prospects aren't helped by crude pumps. Very disappointing that the op was changed to mention block tech. It doesn't reflect well on the Dev.

I still have a lot of Florincoin by the way, so I'm not fudding.
member
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Has there been a successful popcorn time for music on mobile? I figure Alexandria might show an interesting use case there. Probably not an original idea but might be worth looking into considering Apple is starting to strong-arm everyone with their Beats reboot.
newbie
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Torrent and IT noob here. I still don`t get the main advantage Alexandria has over the existing solutions, but I am only an occasional user of the whole thing (i.e. the only way I know to handle it is to go to torrentz.eu, look for something, than click on a link and M-Torrent downloads it. That`s what a friend who knows about that stuff told me).

A lot of folks are calling this a better alternative to "the existing solutions" for Torrenting pirated content, because by replacing a website that can be shut down with a blockchain as the torrent index/repository, it is considerably more robust, but I want to be clear that this was not our actual goal - the purpose behind Alexandria is to use the P2P technology that piracy sites rely on for free wide distribution to enable artists to be in direct control of their works and how they are distributed and monetized. We're of course aware that pirates will find the platform to be an attractive solution to their biggest problems, and since there's no way we could prevent them from doing so without creating central points of failure w/in the system, we're "ok" with it, but we are taking steps to prevent those pirated works from actually showing up for end users in the Alexandria browser. As Joey (metacoin) pointed out, this will use a filter system that users can opt out of, because otherwise it would be a pretty dramatic example of 3rd party censorship, but we think it strikes a strong balance of making the core technology available in a really supportive way to the average end user while preventing it from being blatantly abused by piracy rings.

So, to more simply answer your question, the actual "existing solutions" this is attempting to better would be YouTube, Spotify, Soundcloud or iTunes, not thepiratebay or PopcornTime, and we think it offers many significant advantages over them (namely that it offers matching feature sets to those platforms, is uncensorable, has incredibly low distribution costs and lets artists monetize their works directly without any expensive middle-men).

Devon
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