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Topic: [ANN][GRA] Graincoin - New PoW/PoS coin | Fast, secure | Version 1.5 Released! - page 108. (Read 177059 times)

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unless im missing something theoretically there should be a PoW block on average every 30 seconds, give or take. diff shouldn't hit 4 unless sum1 BIG is soloing, and were not seeing the PoW blocks generated by that theoretical solo miner(s).

im pretty sure its counting PoS blocks towards the block time target for some reason. that or another problem is driving diff up.

earlier neither pool showed blocks for a loooong time even with combined 50 MH. theoretically with say at least 1/5 of the network 1/5 of the generated blocks would get hit by the pool, or a block every 2.5 mins. when you don't hit a block for an hour, something aint right. even if the diff gets bumped up you could expect a block every 10 mins tops.

currently seems to be working ok so that's good. blocks are rolling in much faster now.
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hmm, actually I do not see any problem here. It is fine that PoS blocks are rewarded well - that makes some advantage over other currencies and may attract people who can't invest in 'special' hardware to mine.

According to the info reported by the daemon the network hp now is 185MH, the difficulty is 1.26320355 and these numbers are completely in corelation:

185273235/(2^48 / 65535 / 30) = 1.29409885.

The small difference may be because at last retarget the 'measured' network hashpower was a bit higher.

I do not see orphans (I am mining solo), that means that everything is going fine.

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You guys are right there is a problems and its been happening for several days. PoS blocks are replacing PoW blocks. This in turn drives up the difficulty and crushes the miners. I propose bosian slice out the PoS rewards to keep Grain stable. The PoS rewards were a cool aspect of the coin but at this point its best to forget about it and move on. The small PoS rewards are not worth these major headaches and are holding the coin back from growing.

well that or get it figured out why its doing this. PoS shouldn't count towards difficulty of PoW, pehaps its a small thing to fix.

at any rate im sure no one would be upset if we removed PoS and put it back later, but i don't know if that's possible.

i think PoS is an important part of why some people like grain, but personally i wouldn't care if it were taken out, others might think its detrimental to the coin.
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YUck is just someone holding some early coin generating stakes, nothng strange there. perhaps he hasn't been on for awhile, and this disrupted the network with so many steaks??

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from the old block explorer, with broken chain:

http://coinblockchain.com/grain/address/9RasWHQWcNfcS86uk4pHC3v5KMafFyYUck

shows old tx from this addy, many coins, now no longer mining only PoS
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Jollyburner, I think I would have to agree with you.  I had a look at blocks from 56071 onwards to check the addresses that payments were going to:

56071   9RasWHQWcNfcS86uk4pHC3v5KMafFyYUck
56072   9RasWHQWcNfcS86uk4pHC3v5KMafFyYUck
56073   9RasWHQWcNfcS86uk4pHC3v5KMafFyYUck
56074   9RasWHQWcNfcS86uk4pHC3v5KMafFyYUck
56075   9RasWHQWcNfcS86uk4pHC3v5KMafFyYUck
56076   9EcmNqQmiEbo5G4s2e91dzGdL9KRjenrQ9
56077   9AJ5YhCPkTKSXNx9fFobmkayp2cBUqFUNZ
56078   9RasWHQWcNfcS86uk4pHC3v5KMafFyYUck
56079   9RasWHQWcNfcS86uk4pHC3v5KMafFyYUck
56080   9RasWHQWcNfcS86uk4pHC3v5KMafFyYUck
56081   9StWjUHMHt3FfQXMKxtcDNRr3h26cKQKtQ   =livechains
56082   9T5EUuj1f24jRUWfbKwrRtWbMVzr5UZF3A
56083   9T5EUuj1f24jRUWfbKwrRtWbMVzr5UZF3A
56084   9RasWHQWcNfcS86uk4pHC3v5KMafFyYUck
56085   97mHyuMsZC3RyU9p3JiX5xyDpYXDZZUFdj   =forkpool
56086   9RasWHQWcNfcS86uk4pHC3v5KMafFyYUck
56087   9RasWHQWcNfcS86uk4pHC3v5KMafFyYUck
56088   9RasWHQWcNfcS86uk4pHC3v5KMafFyYUck
56089   9RasWHQWcNfcS86uk4pHC3v5KMafFyYUck
56090   97mHyuMsZC3RyU9p3JiX5xyDpYXDZZUFdj   =forkpool
56096   97mHyuMsZC3RyU9p3JiX5xyDpYXDZZUFdj   =forkpool
56109   9StWjUHMHt3FfQXMKxtcDNRr3h26cKQKtQ   =livechains
56120   9EX5G97HZMgZaTLdonGzNvs3ANDpBpiV47   =other_miner

Most of the payments are going to 9RasWHQWcNfcS86uk4pHC3v5KMafFyYUck which I guess is a PoS recipient.  Only 6 mined blocks in that lot of 50.  I gave up recording the addresses and ended up just looking for mined blocks.

Ok, I now understand the low difficulty. It's the PoS difficulty.

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Jollyburner, I think I would have to agree with you.  I had a look at blocks from 56071 onwards to check the addresses that payments were going to:

56071   9RasWHQWcNfcS86uk4pHC3v5KMafFyYUck
56072   9RasWHQWcNfcS86uk4pHC3v5KMafFyYUck
56073   9RasWHQWcNfcS86uk4pHC3v5KMafFyYUck
56074   9RasWHQWcNfcS86uk4pHC3v5KMafFyYUck
56075   9RasWHQWcNfcS86uk4pHC3v5KMafFyYUck
56076   9EcmNqQmiEbo5G4s2e91dzGdL9KRjenrQ9
56077   9AJ5YhCPkTKSXNx9fFobmkayp2cBUqFUNZ
56078   9RasWHQWcNfcS86uk4pHC3v5KMafFyYUck
56079   9RasWHQWcNfcS86uk4pHC3v5KMafFyYUck
56080   9RasWHQWcNfcS86uk4pHC3v5KMafFyYUck
56081   9StWjUHMHt3FfQXMKxtcDNRr3h26cKQKtQ   =livechains
56082   9T5EUuj1f24jRUWfbKwrRtWbMVzr5UZF3A
56083   9T5EUuj1f24jRUWfbKwrRtWbMVzr5UZF3A
56084   9RasWHQWcNfcS86uk4pHC3v5KMafFyYUck
56085   97mHyuMsZC3RyU9p3JiX5xyDpYXDZZUFdj   =forkpool
56086   9RasWHQWcNfcS86uk4pHC3v5KMafFyYUck
56087   9RasWHQWcNfcS86uk4pHC3v5KMafFyYUck
56088   9RasWHQWcNfcS86uk4pHC3v5KMafFyYUck
56089   9RasWHQWcNfcS86uk4pHC3v5KMafFyYUck
56090   97mHyuMsZC3RyU9p3JiX5xyDpYXDZZUFdj   =forkpool
56096   97mHyuMsZC3RyU9p3JiX5xyDpYXDZZUFdj   =forkpool
56109   9StWjUHMHt3FfQXMKxtcDNRr3h26cKQKtQ   =livechains
56120   9EX5G97HZMgZaTLdonGzNvs3ANDpBpiV47   =other_miner

Most of the payments are going to 9RasWHQWcNfcS86uk4pHC3v5KMafFyYUck which I guess is a PoS recipient.  Only 6 mined blocks in that lot of 50.  I gave up recording the addresses and ended up just looking for mined blocks.
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GRAIN will feed everyone!  Grin
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There's a bright future for this coin just let us continue supporting GRA and you'll never know the price of this coin might skyrocket anytime.
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ok something deffo wrong, its not someone soloing. i wish i knew more about how this worked.

looking at block explorer it shows a lot of PoS and not many PoW blocks, many minutes between PoW.

so either something like a fork is happening (i don't think so?) or there is problem with the coin network getting work done. my best guess is that PoS generating is clogging everything up and or some wires are crossed in the code and its counting PoS as PoW in the diff targeting. that or someone is soloing hard and the coin is effectively being ddos'd and no one is getting blocks.

duno why else the block explorer would show so few PoW blocks.

may need to do some more fine tuning on the coin, standby for updates.

*edit* reminder im not a dev, i just love grain, so i have no idea if this is a problem, how to fix it, or when it will be fixed. i just report the problems Wink

not to worry, we have made it through all the hiccups so far, probably only a temporary issue. some blocks are still coming in.
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WTS 230k grain. Any offers?

What's your price?

Make me an offer you feel comfortable with? If it seems fair i'll probably accept.

i will set the floor @ .015 BTC
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WTS 230k grain. Any offers?

What's your price?

Make me an offer you feel comfortable with? If it seems fair i'll probably accept.
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Selling 100k Grain, pm me offer Smiley
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diff getting hit so hard were barely getting blocks on forkpool.
we are passing blocks now i think the network code needs to be updated because the load went down and now we are passing blocks again


i duno whats happening, i don't understand the technical details of coin mining. but i think if someone big enough is mining solo then we don't get any blocks through. as soon as diff says 4 the pools aren't getting blocks, they should get a few still but seems they aren't.
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diff getting hit so hard were barely getting blocks on forkpool.
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1   Burrito   2013-12-29 19:22:01   Bonus      Unconfirmed         55750   1,000.00000000

All systems are go, 1000 coins per block for 200 blocks in bonusus.... 1% fees, why are you mining anywhere else right now?Huh

Seems stuck again, valid shares but not transactions, except of block 55750....

maybe i broke it, next time i will go easy lol...

Lol...

There is nothing wrong with the pool its submitting shares stratum has no errors and cron working just fine who ever mr 800mhash who just keeps poping on the network is making it hard cause my miner keeps saying new block detected.

possibly we are getting forked out? combined we should hit some blocks even if hes got that much... but perhaps not.

maybe its a switching pool taking longshots at unlisted coins?? 800 mh is a lot even for a small group of big miners. whoever it is is smart, graincoin gona be huuge!

from forkpool:


Pool Hash Rate
33.663 MH/s

Pool Efficiency
98.26%

Current Active Workers
50

Current Difficulty
3.68778456

Est. Avg. Time per Round
7 minutes 58 seconds

Est. Shares this Round
15105 (done: 207.61%)

Next Network Block
55849    (Current: 55848)

Last Block Found
55814

Time Since Last Block
17 minutes 36 seconds
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Current Difficulty
5.02153245

Est. Next Difficulty
5.19319644 (Change in 1 Blocks)

Est. Avg. Time per Round (Network)
29 seconds

Est. Avg. Time per Round (Pool)
57 minutes 34 seconds


it may simply be this, i think there is some big soloing, or something weird going on with the coin difficulty targeting. but i suspect just big soloing.

that means someone (or many) with real hashpower thinks graincoin has a decent shot at getting somewhere Wink
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1   Burrito   2013-12-29 19:22:01   Bonus      Unconfirmed         55750   1,000.00000000

All systems are go, 1000 coins per block for 200 blocks in bonusus.... 1% fees, why are you mining anywhere else right now?Huh

Seems stuck again, valid shares but not transactions, except of block 55750....

maybe i broke it, next time i will go easy lol...

Lol...
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1   Burrito   2013-12-29 19:22:01   Bonus      Unconfirmed         55750   1,000.00000000

All systems are go, 1000 coins per block for 200 blocks in bonusus.... 1% fees, why are you mining anywhere else right now?Huh

Seems stuck again, valid shares but not transactions, except of block 55750....

maybe i broke it, next time i will go easy lol...
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1   Burrito   2013-12-29 19:22:01   Bonus      Unconfirmed         55750   1,000.00000000

All systems are go, 1000 coins per block for 200 blocks in bonusus.... 1% fees, why are you mining anywhere else right now?Huh

Seems stuck again, valid shares but not transactions, except of block 55750....
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