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Block Time: December 29, 2013, 20:07:58

Block Time: December 29, 2013, 22:01:21


2 hours should be ~ 240 blocks? there are maybe 30-40 PoW blocks in this time. plz let me know If this is correct, because I don't understand why this would happen if working correctly,

most are PoS blocks. 30 sec is only for PoW blocks.

I agree that we need a block explorer like before which shows multi-blocks in one page ans show PoW/PoS, I PM'ed programmer a couple of times asking him to fix the old explorer, but I did not get a reply from him. He's probably busy now as it is holiday season... hope he'll fix it soon so you can see clearly which is PoS which is PoW. Now you can do this too, but you need to do it one by one, with the block crawler we have, which is cumbersome.

done, here look at this, 3 hours period only ~ 40 PoW blocks, this is all the PoW blocks from this time period, this is why I think its a problem.

Block Height: 55863 Block Time: December 29, 2013, 20:14:37 Block Version 4 Block Size 290 # of Confirmations 2371 Block Bits 1c44e732 Block Nonce 210128129 Block Difficulty 3.71530554
Block Height: 55871 Block Time: December 29, 2013, 20:16:43 Block Version 4 Block Size 291 # of Confirmations 2363 Block Bits 1c7590e0 Block Nonce 3681224960 Block Difficulty 2.17746859
Block Height: 55874 Block Time: December 29, 2013, 20:17:23 Block Version 4 Block Size 291 # of Confirmations 2361 Block Bits 1c7e1dbd Block Nonce 3628276480 Block Difficulty 2.02984362
Block Height: 55927 Block Time: December 29, 2013, 20:44:47 Block Version 4 Block Size 291 # of Confirmations 2309 Block Bits 1c336172 Block Nonce 2692022848 Block Difficulty 4.98234481
Block Height: 55928 Block Time: December 29, 2013, 20:45:12 Block Version 4 Block Size 1980 # of Confirmations 2309 Block Bits 1d00e5b8 Block Nonce 1490550784 Block Difficulty 1.1143892
Block Height: 55935 Block Time: December 29, 2013, 20:48:18 Block Version 4 Block Size 265 # of Confirmations 2302 Block Bits 1d0094c5 Block Nonce 216531456 Block Difficulty 1.7207562
Block Height: 55943 Block Time: December 29, 2013, 20:51:00 Block Version 4 Block Size 291 # of Confirmations 2294 Block Bits 1d008408 Block Nonce 1324026625 Block Difficulty 1.93890533
Block Height: 55945 Block Time: December 29, 2013, 20:52:13 Block Version 4 Block Size 291 # of Confirmations 2292 Block Bits 1d00a016 Block Nonce 1559768576 Block Difficulty 1.59911669
Block Height: 55947 Block Time: December 29, 2013, 20:52:37 Block Version 4 Block Size 265 # of Confirmations 2290 Block Bits 1d00a46b Block Nonce 3246068480 Block Difficulty 1.55698368
Block Height: 55948 Block Time: December 29, 2013, 20:52:53 Block Version 4 Block Size 266 # of Confirmations 2289 Block Bits 1d00a24b Block Nonce 2660108800 Block Difficulty 1.57737021
Block Height: 55952 Block Time: December 29, 2013, 20:55:10 Block Version 4 Block Size 266 # of Confirmations 2285 Block Bits 1c7f2126 Block Nonce 3455257600 Block Difficulty 2.01366419
Block Height: 55954 Block Time: December 29, 2013, 20:55:38 Block Version 4 Block Size 291 # of Confirmations 2283 Block Bits 1d009385 Block Nonce 2866384640 Block Difficulty 1.73533695
Block Height: 55959 Block Time: December 29, 2013, 20:58:07 Block Version 4 Block Size 267 # of Confirmations 2278 Block Bits 1c713d22 Block Nonce 233641984 Block Difficulty 2.26067473
Block Height: 55983 Block Time: December 29, 2013, 21:11:25 Block Version 4 Block Size 290 # of Confirmations 2255 Block Bits 1c44fde5 Block Nonce 952311808 Block Difficulty 3.71053059
Block Height: 55987 Block Time: December 29, 2013, 21:13:21 Block Version 4 Block Size 291 # of Confirmations 2251 Block Bits 1d00a671 Block Nonce 4024239104 Block Difficulty 1.53805534
Block Height: 55989 Block Time: December 29, 2013, 21:14:02 Block Version 4 Block Size 291 # of Confirmations 2249 Block Bits 1d00b9dc Block Nonce 3991470336 Block Difficulty 1.37736444
Block Height: 56035 Block Time: December 29, 2013, 21:35:08 Block Version 4 Block Size 292 # of Confirmations 2203 Block Bits 1c4c108e Block Nonce 550109952 Block Difficulty 3.36550602
Block Height: 56042 Block Time: December 29, 2013, 21:38:13 Block Version 4 Block Size 291 # of Confirmations 2196 Block Bits 1d00e510 Block Nonce 694681856 Block Difficulty 1.11758186
Block Height: 56043 Block Time: December 29, 2013, 21:38:26 Block Version 4 Block Size 291 # of Confirmations 2195 Block Bits 1d01316a Block Nonce 537789952 Block Difficulty 0.83819354
Block Height: 56044 Block Time: December 29, 2013, 21:38:37 Block Version 4 Block Size 291 # of Confirmations 2195 Block Bits 1d01263f Block Nonce 3876258560 Block Difficulty 0.87000677
Block Height: 56047 Block Time: December 29, 2013, 21:40:07 Block Version 4 Block Size 291 # of Confirmations 2193 Block Bits 1d00f749 Block Nonce 3747495552 Block Difficulty 1.03522629
Block Height: 56050 Block Time: December 29, 2013, 21:40:54 Block Version 4 Block Size 291 # of Confirmations 2190 Block Bits 1d00f749 Block Nonce 1763800576 Block Difficulty 1.03522629
Block Height: 56057 Block Time: December 29, 2013, 21:44:00 Block Version 4 Block Size 292 # of Confirmations 2183 Block Bits 1d00aa82 Block Nonce 2817589760 Block Difficulty 1.50137457
Block Height: 56081 Block Time: December 29, 2013, 21:56:44 Block Version 4 Block Size 290 # of Confirmations 2159 Block Bits 1c739100 Block Nonce 790315136 Block Difficulty 2.21514281
Block Height: 56085 Block Time: December 29, 2013, 21:58:52 Block Version 4 Block Size 290 # of Confirmations 2155 Block Bits 1d010e9e Block Nonce 4189589248 Block Difficulty 0.9459713
Block Height: 56090 Block Time: December 29, 2013, 21:59:55 Block Version 4 Block Size 291 # of Confirmations 2150 Block Bits 1d010346 Block Nonce 845873920 Block Difficulty 0.98735951
Block Height: 56096 Block Time: December 29, 2013, 22:02:01 Block Version 4 Block Size 291 # of Confirmations 2144 Block Bits 1d00cb18 Block Nonce 1838298624 Block Difficulty 1.26048238
Block Height: 56107 Block Time: December 29, 2013, 22:06:16 Block Version 4 Block Size 1176 # of Confirmations 2133 Block Bits 1c7764fe Block Nonce 1840157184 Block Difficulty 2.14411964
Block Height: 56109 Block Time: December 29, 2013, 22:07:02 Block Version 4 Block Size 292 # of Confirmations 2131 Block Bits 1d00a7e6 Block Nonce 1119705856 Block Difficulty 1.52470802
Block Height: 56120 Block Time: December 29, 2013, 22:11:22 Block Version 4 Block Size 265 # of Confirmations 2120 Block Bits 1c47919e Block Nonce 1596064768 Block Difficulty 3.57692224
Block Height: 56132 Block Time: December 29, 2013, 22:17:02 Block Version 4 Block Size 291 # of Confirmations 2108 Block Bits 1c3a50b9 Block Nonce 2402747648 Block Difficulty 4.38985984
Block Height: 56156 Block Time: December 29, 2013, 22:26:46 Block Version 4 Block Size 291 # of Confirmations 2085 Block Bits 1c3827ce Block Nonce 4285023872 Block Difficulty 4.55870133
Block Height: 56161 Block Time: December 29, 2013, 22:28:41 Block Version 4 Block Size 291 # of Confirmations 2080 Block Bits 1c6693cd Block Nonce 1010050048 Block Difficulty 2.49563965
Block Height: 56190 Block Time: December 29, 2013, 22:42:27 Block Version 4 Block Size 292 # of Confirmations 2051 Block Bits 1c3809a1 Block Nonce 1671497728 Block Difficulty 4.56829048
Block Height: 56194 Block Time: December 29, 2013, 22:44:03 Block Version 4 Block Size 292 # of Confirmations 2047 Block Bits 1d008a75 Block Nonce 3047116032 Block Difficulty 1.84892086
Block Height: 56212 Block Time: December 29, 2013, 22:53:04 Block Version 4 Block Size 290 # of Confirmations 2030 Block Bits 1c46c455 Block Nonce 2893095936 Block Difficulty 3.61745412
Block Height: 56220 Block Time: December 29, 2013, 22:55:48 Block Version 4 Block Size 292 # of Confirmations 2022 Block Bits 1c7324c8 Block Nonce 2051017216 Block Difficulty 2.22327531
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if u look from time


Block Time: December 29, 2013, 20:07:58

Block Time: December 29, 2013, 22:01:21


2 hours should be ~ 240 blocks? there are maybe 30-40 PoW blocks in this time. plz let me know If this is correct, because I don't understand why this would happen if working correctly,

most are PoS blocks. 30 sec is only for PoW blocks.

I agree that we need a block explorer like before which shows multi-blocks in one page ans show PoW/PoS, I PM'ed programmer a couple of times asking him to fix the old explorer, but I did not get a reply from him. He's probably busy now as it is holiday season... hope he'll fix it soon so you can see clearly which is PoS which is PoW. Now you can do this too, but you need to do it one by one, with the block crawler we have, which is cumbersome.
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if u look from time


Block Time: December 29, 2013, 20:07:58

Block Time: December 29, 2013, 22:01:21


2 hours should be ~ 240 blocks? there are maybe 30-40 PoW blocks in this time. plz let me know If this is correct, because I don't understand why this would happen if working correctly,
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Both pools are working fine now. Except if you click on the block found, both pointing to wrong block explorer. If you want to look at details of the block, just copy the block number and copy it into the block explorer in OP.

perfectsquare/Otakusama, please fix the links on the blocks found, they seem to point to a litecoin blockexplorer  Smiley

yes but yesterday its broken bosian, why?

I tell you diff @ 6, then 1.x then 4 then 1.x and no PoW blocks are being found for 10 mins, 20 mins.

we need the block explorer that shows many blocks at once, it shows the timestamps.

if u look thru the ones from the time here:

55849

Some blocks in between your list are pos blocks.

30 sec average time does not mean it is 30 sec all the time, sometimes it is possible to get one block after 10 mins. The next diff will be adjust down if the actual block time is above the 30 sec. The magnitude of the adjustment depends on how far the deviation is.


well maybe it is working ok then, but u must look at this

starting

Block Height: 55849

if u go thru, there are times of 15 mins or more with no blocks, and the average blocks generated for many hours was maybe 1/4 of the target amount of blocks.
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Both pools are working fine now. Except if you click on the block found, both pointing to wrong block explorer. If you want to look at details of the block, just copy the block number and copy it into the block explorer in OP.

perfectsquare/Otakusama, please fix the links on the blocks found, they seem to point to a litecoin blockexplorer  Smiley

yes but yesterday its broken bosian, why?

I tell you diff @ 6, then 1.x then 4 then 1.x and no PoW blocks are being found for 10 mins, 20 mins.

we need the block explorer that shows many blocks at once, it shows the timestamps.

if u look thru the ones from the time here:

55849

Some blocks in between your list are pos blocks.

30 sec average time does not mean it is 30 sec all the time, sometimes it is possible to get one block after 10 mins. The next diff will be adjust down if the actual block time is above the 30 sec. The magnitude of the adjustment depends on how far the deviation is.
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Both pools are working fine now. Except if you click on the block found, both pointing to wrong block explorer. If you want to look at details of the block, just copy the block number and copy it into the block explorer in OP.

perfectsquare/Otakusama, please fix the links on the blocks found, they seem to point to a litecoin blockexplorer  Smiley
Okay it has been fixed feel free to check it out at gra.livechains.net
Also im trying to get coinex to add gra so crosses fingers.

Great, thanks!
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Both pools are working fine now. Except if you click on the block found, both pointing to wrong block explorer. If you want to look at details of the block, just copy the block number and copy it into the block explorer in OP.

perfectsquare/Otakusama, please fix the links on the blocks found, they seem to point to a litecoin blockexplorer  Smiley

yes but yesterday its broken bosian, why?

I tell you diff @ 6, then 1.x then 4 then 1.x and no PoW blocks are being found for 10 mins, 20 mins.

we need the block explorer that shows many blocks at once, it shows the timestamps.

if u look thru the ones from the time here:

55849

and

Jollyburner, I think I would have to agree with you.  I had a look at blocks from 56071 onwards to check the addresses that payments were going to:

56071   9RasWHQWcNfcS86uk4pHC3v5KMafFyYUck
56072   9RasWHQWcNfcS86uk4pHC3v5KMafFyYUck
56073   9RasWHQWcNfcS86uk4pHC3v5KMafFyYUck
56074   9RasWHQWcNfcS86uk4pHC3v5KMafFyYUck
56075   9RasWHQWcNfcS86uk4pHC3v5KMafFyYUck
56076   9EcmNqQmiEbo5G4s2e91dzGdL9KRjenrQ9
56077   9AJ5YhCPkTKSXNx9fFobmkayp2cBUqFUNZ
56078   9RasWHQWcNfcS86uk4pHC3v5KMafFyYUck
56079   9RasWHQWcNfcS86uk4pHC3v5KMafFyYUck
56080   9RasWHQWcNfcS86uk4pHC3v5KMafFyYUck
56081   9StWjUHMHt3FfQXMKxtcDNRr3h26cKQKtQ   =livechains
56082   9T5EUuj1f24jRUWfbKwrRtWbMVzr5UZF3A
56083   9T5EUuj1f24jRUWfbKwrRtWbMVzr5UZF3A
56084   9RasWHQWcNfcS86uk4pHC3v5KMafFyYUck
56085   97mHyuMsZC3RyU9p3JiX5xyDpYXDZZUFdj   =forkpool
56086   9RasWHQWcNfcS86uk4pHC3v5KMafFyYUck
56087   9RasWHQWcNfcS86uk4pHC3v5KMafFyYUck
56088   9RasWHQWcNfcS86uk4pHC3v5KMafFyYUck
56089   9RasWHQWcNfcS86uk4pHC3v5KMafFyYUck
56090   97mHyuMsZC3RyU9p3JiX5xyDpYXDZZUFdj   =forkpool
56096   97mHyuMsZC3RyU9p3JiX5xyDpYXDZZUFdj   =forkpool
56109   9StWjUHMHt3FfQXMKxtcDNRr3h26cKQKtQ   =livechains
56120   9EX5G97HZMgZaTLdonGzNvs3ANDpBpiV47   =other_miner

Most of the payments are going to 9RasWHQWcNfcS86uk4pHC3v5KMafFyYUck which I guess is a PoS recipient.  Only 6 mined blocks in that lot of 50.  I gave up recording the addresses and ended up just looking for mined blocks.
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Both pools are working fine now. Except if you click on the block found, both pointing to wrong block explorer. If you want to look at details of the block, just copy the block number and copy it into the block explorer in OP.

perfectsquare/Otakusama, please fix the links on the blocks found, they seem to point to a litecoin blockexplorer  Smiley
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I looked at the mining and blockchain, everything seems fine to me. I am doing some solo mining now, and will report back if I find any blocks. Unfortunately I have only one 7950 mining now, my other two 7950 got burnt recently, and the replacement has not arrived yet. So it's a pretty slow mining.

From the diff variations, everything seems fine. It is normal that you see both PoW and PoS blocks. PoS blocks has many, since it generated once the coin-day meets certain criteria. The PoW block is generated on average every 30 seconds and the diff is adjusted based o the real block time.

From my experiences and the diff variations now, the coin is definitely not PoS-only. Let me mine a little more and see if I'll be able to get a PoW block.

PS. The diff is correct, I see it around 50K in cgminer, which mean diff = 50K/65536 = 0.76


the problem is real bosian I have seen it! the diff went to 4 and 6 yesterday without any1 solo mining, because we looked at the blockchain and there is no blocks to anyone only PoS and the forkpool blocks. if there was a big solominer then the blocks from him would be there

I think the code is counting sometimes the PoS as PoW, and then the diff goes up, and less blocks are generated than intended.

if you look at forkpool they have less blocks from last 24 hours than they should since there is not any big solo mining happening, fork should hit more blocks right now

No, diff is fine, no issue at all.

My cgminer shows this:

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[2013-12-30 12:15:24] New block detected on network
 [2013-12-30 12:15:59] Network diff set to 50.6K
 [2013-12-30 12:15:59] New block detected on network
 [2013-12-30 12:18:19] Network diff set to 53.6K
 [2013-12-30 12:18:19] New block detected on network
 [2013-12-30 12:19:54] Network diff set to 56.7K
 [2013-12-30 12:19:54] New block detected on network
 [2013-12-30 12:20:19] Network diff set to 59.6K
 [2013-12-30 12:20:19] New block detected on network
 [2013-12-30 12:21:44] Network diff set to 63.4K
 [2013-12-30 12:21:44] New block detected on network
 [2013-12-30 12:22:34] Network diff set to 67.1K
 [2013-12-30 12:22:34] New block detected on network
 [2013-12-30 12:22:44] Network diff set to 36K
 [2013-12-30 12:22:44] New block detected on network
 [2013-12-30 12:22:54] Network diff set to 37.2K
 [2013-12-30 12:22:54] New block detected on network
 [2013-12-30 12:24:04] Network diff set to 34.7K
 [2013-12-30 12:24:04] New block detected on network
 [2013-12-30 12:24:09] Network diff set to 36.9K
 [2013-12-30 12:24:09] New block detected on network
 [2013-12-30 12:24:14] Network diff set to 39.3K
 [2013-12-30 12:24:14] New block detected on network
 [2013-12-30 12:25:19] Network diff set to 34.7K
 [2013-12-30 12:25:19] New block detected on network
 [2013-12-30 12:25:29] Network diff set to 36.8K
 [2013-12-30 12:25:29] New block detected on network
 [2013-12-30 12:25:49] Network diff set to 39.1K
 [2013-12-30 12:25:49] New block detected on network
 [2013-12-30 12:26:10] Network diff set to 41.7K
 [2013-12-30 12:26:10] New block detected on network
 [2013-12-30 12:26:45] Network diff set to 44.2K
 [2013-12-30 12:26:45] New block detected on network
 [2013-12-30 12:27:00] Network diff set to 46.9K
 [2013-12-30 12:27:00] New block detected on network
 [2013-12-30 12:27:30] Network diff set to 41.2K
 [2013-12-30 12:27:30] New block detected on network
 [2013-12-30 12:27:35] Pool 0 not providing work fast enough
 [2013-12-30 12:28:40] Network diff set to 43.8K
 [2013-12-30 12:28:40] New block detected on network
 [2013-12-30 12:29:00] Network diff set to 38.2K
 [2013-12-30 12:29:00] New block detected on network
 [2013-12-30 12:30:10] Network diff set to 40.6K
 [2013-12-30 12:30:10] New block detected on network

divided by 65536 to get the diff value, and the diff varies between 0.5 and 1, which is perfectly normal given the network hashrate of GRA.
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altho it does seem to be correctly displayed right now I cant understand what was happening before, it must be a problem. forkpool had no blocks for over an hour before, and yet no one else is finding them either.
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And I see the pools are working fine. For example, the gra.forkpool, the last block it found is block 58150, which generated 1891 coins:

http://gra.livechains.net/explorer/block_crawler.php?transaction=7c9c66304ddd2d79556e4c7c1113788e98b6e8004498205b7983058831c7a12b

Don't click on the link of "58150" in the pool page, as it links to an old incorrect blockexplorer. Instead, enter the block number into the correct blockexplorer in the OP, you will see details of that block.

udjin123, can you please fix the links of the block that the pool found, it should point to the new blockexplorer.

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I looked at the mining and blockchain, everything seems fine to me. I am doing some solo mining now, and will report back if I find any blocks. Unfortunately I have only one 7950 mining now, my other two 7950 got burnt recently, and the replacement has not arrived yet. So it's a pretty slow mining.

From the diff variations, everything seems fine. It is normal that you see both PoW and PoS blocks. PoS blocks has many, since it generated once the coin-day meets certain criteria. The PoW block is generated on average every 30 seconds and the diff is adjusted based o the real block time.

From my experiences and the diff variations now, the coin is definitely not PoS-only. Let me mine a little more and see if I'll be able to get a PoW block.

PS. The diff is correct, I see it around 50K in cgminer, which mean diff = 50K/65536 = 0.76


the problem is real bosian I have seen it! the diff went to 4 and 6 yesterday without any1 solo mining, because we looked at the blockchain and there is no blocks to anyone only PoS and the forkpool blocks. if there was a big solominer then the blocks from him would be there

I think the code is counting sometimes the PoS as PoW, and then the diff goes up, and less blocks are generated than intended.

if you look at forkpool they have less blocks from last 24 hours than they should since there is not any big solo mining happening, fork should hit more blocks right now
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I looked at the mining and blockchain, everything seems fine to me. I am doing some solo mining now, and will report back if I find any blocks. Unfortunately I have only one 7950 mining now, my other two 7950 got burnt recently, and the replacement has not arrived yet. So it's a pretty slow mining.

From the diff variations, everything seems fine. It is normal that you see both PoW and PoS blocks. PoS blocks has many, since it generated once the coin-day meets certain criteria. The PoW block is generated on average every 30 seconds and the diff is adjusted based o the real block time.

From my experiences and the diff variations now, the coin is definitely not PoS-only. Let me mine a little more and see if I'll be able to get a PoW block.

PS. The diff is correct, I see it around 50K in cgminer, which mean diff = 50K/65536 = 0.76
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Guys, sorry I just returned home, as you know it is holiday season... I will go through the thread to check what has happened.
Will report back soon.

hi bosian, glad to see u

the only problems are as follows:

more issue with PoS blocks interrupting PoW and jacking up the diff

the PoW blocks aren't coming every 30 seconds as should because of the problem

and the diff is going up to 4 or 6 yesterday while seemingly no one is solo mining it, so it must be the PoS

if looking at forkpool the diff seems to be lower now, but still not as many blocks in last 24 hours as forkpool should get.
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maybe we go POS only Smiley

What ?!

Is this yet another scam coin by muddafudda ?

He rigged COL that way aswell...

Hippie Tech, please stop the fud, I saw you have done this in all the threads. Please help the community in a positive way.
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Any Miners want to sell some Graincoins? PM offers
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anyone get this compiled in unix? The git clone is very windoze only.

can you please post the errors you get?
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Bad gateway error is due to Mooncoin launch. Total mess and everyone refreshing bitcointalk.org like crazy. Few hours since it launched. Fun to watch the madness.
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Guys, sorry I just returned home, as you know it is holiday season... I will go through the thread to check what has happened.
Will report back soon.
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possibly server issues, or under attack

save ur msgs before send so u don't have to retype them
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