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Topic: [ANN][GRS] Groestlcoin | 1st to activate Segwit | Building Lightning Network - page 203. (Read 558212 times)

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For testing, I turned the GPUs and some other background stuff off, and got as high as 2918kh/s from my i7-4770K (stock) with latest YAM. Thats of course awesome but it did make the computer completely non-resposive. Usually I dont run it -t 8 because of that, but its a powerful miner indeed Smiley

very nice! according to this Intel spec this pulls a max of 84w (TDP)
http://ark.intel.com/products/75123

so thats 2918kh @84w!

this is close to parity with GPU in terns of power efficiency (1.5x-2x)

AES acceleration FTW!!!

 Cool


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For testing, I turned the GPUs and some other background stuff off, and got as high as 2918kh/s from my i7-4770K (stock) with latest YAM. Thats of course awesome but it did make the computer completely non-resposive. Usually I dont run it -t 8 because of that, but its a powerful miner indeed Smiley
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As agreed with btc-mike and yvg1900 I originaly posted this in btc-mike's CPU Coin List topic. I have copied you here as it will be of much interest to some of you. I will keep you appraised of any developments in btc-mike's thread,

Enjoy!

CH

CPU Coin List
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6528344



Hello All,

Following a disappointing result when btc-mike tested the latest YAM miner on an AMD FX-8320 hashing groestlcoin (1300Khs), and being a firm believer that Grøstl is the ultimate PoW I forwarded these results to yvg1900, the YAM miner dev. yvg1900 said he'd take a closer look at the findings.

Earlier on today yvg1900 replied with some comments in a PM to me. Being very correct and diligent yvg1900 suggested I should confer with btc-mike before re-publishing the comments in a public forum. I agreed and notified btc-mike of our wish to make public these comments, seeking his approval in doing so.

Of course btc-mike being a sound chap was quite happy to continue the dialogue and requested I publish yvg1900's thoughts in this thread. I agreed and he agreed I'd re-pot this in the Groestlcoin thread:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/anngrs-groestlcoin-1st-to-activate-segwit-building-lightning-network-525926

So here follows yvg1900's comments after the results of btc-mike's test of an AMD FX-8320 hashing groestlcoin… Enjoy!

thanks btc-mike and yvg1900 - you both totally røck!

CH


I took at deeper look on cpucoinlist situation, and here are some conclusions:

1). Yet AMD FX-8320 is not the low end one, it is definitely not the latest and most efficient CPU. It has been released back in October, 2012, but CPU technology advanced a lot since that time with introduction of AVX2 instruction set and Intel Haswell microarchitecture. GPU used for comparison was released one year later, and this heriod is a huge leap in modern data processing technology.

2). In my optimizations I target latest CPUs with lates features, and clear lead at the moment is Intel with their Haswell microarchitecture. AMD FX-8320 is not primary target for optimization, it actually benefits from optimizations targeted to Intel Sandy/Ivy Bridge CPUs (they are limited to AVX as well). I would suggest comparing AMD r9 280X GPU against Intel Xeon E3-1270v3 or i7 4770k CPUs, which have similar (or even significantly lower) price [hash pre $ invested] (I don't mind power consumption) [hash per watt].

3) Newer Haswell Refresh CPUs are coming (or came) in $300 price range, that will bring even more performance boost to CPU mining.

4). When using yam miner it is very important to ensure that memory subsystem on the testing platform is configured correct way (i.e. if HugePages enabled and working). This may lead to nearly 2x performance difference on some coins (especially affected are MemoryCoin, ProtoShares and NoirShares; GroestlCoin is not affected so much).

5) CPU/GPU comparison table tinks to outdated version - makes sense to take a look at https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hTOUdJZrKqrNDXTIbXgNvJtj_fnpECREcs-eHxaGrZc/edit#gid=256771159 instead (available in the OP at GRS ANN thread at botcointalk)

6) Now, just for comparison: from that table and other tests it is clear that Haswell CPUs do well over 2600 KH/s, and some single-CPU machines go over 2800 KH/s. There is a clear technical explanation for this: FX-8320 uses AVX, and Haswell CPUs use AVX2, which has 2x data width (256-bit registers) compared to AVX (128-bit registers).

Thanks,
yvg1900
Developer of yam miner
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Using PIMP (BAMT successor) and chose groestl as profile.
Hashes are fine, but i dont get any shares.....
Anyone any idea?

GPU   Status   Temp   Fan   Rate   Pool   Accept/Reject   I   HW   Core   Memory   Power
0      48.0 C   60% (2750)   5911 Kh/s   N/A   0 / 0   N/A   20   0   1020 Mhz   1500 Mhz   1.163v
1      46.0 C   60% (2169)   6216 Kh/s   N/A   0 / 0   N/A   20   0   1070 Mhz   1600 Mhz   1.200v
2      54.0 C   60% (1864)   5911 Kh/s   N/A   0 / 0   N/A   20   0   1020 Mhz   1500 Mhz   1.200v

make sire your running latest version of sph-sgminer.
Download here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-sph-sgminer-multi-coin-multi-algorithm-gpu-miner-added-marucoin-475795

If problem persists consult the FAQ on official website:
http://www.groestlcoin.org/faq/

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My AMD GPU is hashing, but no shares are accepted and I don't see my hashrate on the pool. What's wrong?
Try adding

--difficulty-multiplier 0.0039062500

parameter to your sgminer command line. If your sgminer reports unrecognized option – please update to the recent version from here If this doesn’t help – report the problem in bitcointalk thread
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Using PIMP (BAMT successor) and chose groestl as profile.
Hashes are fine, but i dont get any shares.....
Anyone any idea?

GPU   Status   Temp   Fan   Rate   Pool   Accept/Reject   I   HW   Core   Memory   Power
0      48.0 C   60% (2750)   5911 Kh/s   N/A   0 / 0   N/A   20   0   1020 Mhz   1500 Mhz   1.163v
1      46.0 C   60% (2169)   6216 Kh/s   N/A   0 / 0   N/A   20   0   1070 Mhz   1600 Mhz   1.200v
2      54.0 C   60% (1864)   5911 Kh/s   N/A   0 / 0   N/A   20   0   1020 Mhz   1500 Mhz   1.200v
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To the best of my knowledge these syncing issues should have been resolved with new wallet releases. Please re-download your wallets before attempting to edit conf files.

Latest wallets are here:
http://www.groestlcoin.org/downloads/

cheers!

nb I've been using new wallet without any of these issues.


GroestlCoin.conf


rpcuser=username
rpcpassword=password
rpcallowip=127.0.0.1
rpcport=1441
port=1331
gen=0
server=1
addnode=37.187.129.122



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GroestlCoin.conf


rpcuser=username
rpcpassword=password
rpcallowip=127.0.0.1
rpcport=1441
port=1331
gen=0
server=1
addnode=37.187.129.122
addnode=62.210.162.235
addnode=88.167.215.32
addnode=69.197.137.58
addnode=103.16.218.165
addnode=84.98.85.30
addnode=76.16.120.82
addnode=62.210.123.27
addnode=117.13.253.241
addnode=92.234.241.91
addnode=217.44.27.235
addnode=193.242.149.63
addnode=209.126.71.54
addnode=79.117.53.154
addnode=92.39.203.216
addnode=61.55.141.196
addnode=151.41.36.112
addnode=5.9.157.13
addnode=74.91.18.210
addnode=222.65.39.59
addnode=83.242.125.165
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REAP WHAT YOU SOW I'm a big fish
can't get it to sync, nodes?
68.0.160.3
70.123.187.172
182.84.64.121
[2001:0:5ef5:79fb:3451:34c9:acf4:878f]
188.226.162.68
77.90.240.85
103.16.218.165
76.16.120.82
192.187.118.162
38.126.94.12
62.210.141.204

THANKS
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What is --difficulty-multiplier for?

I have logged a change of default value request for this difficulty-multiplier in sph-sgminer thread. Hopefully, next version of sph-sgminer will not have it at all (i.e. it'll set it to proper value automatically)
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Hello guys, I tried to crank-up GRS mining today to see what speed I can get. I will share my results and configs. If somebody is able to squeeze higher speeds with the same gpus, please share your configs.

GPU0&1 -> MSI R280X GAMING
GPU2    -> SAPPHIRE R290
sgminer -k groestlcoin --difficulty-multiplier 0.00390625 -o stratum+tcp://cryptohunger.com:3333 -u user -p pass -I 19,19,20 -g 1,1,2 --gpu-engine 1200,1200,1100  --gpu-memclock 1050,1050,1000 --gpu-fan 60

Hey guy,are you serious.GPU at 1200,Can really go that high?
I tried my asus dc2t and his iceqx2 280x can not run beyond 1120.
What is --difficulty-multiplier for?

Yes, GPUs can go as high as 1200 or even higher (I have R9 270X that runs stable at 1220), but only on certain algorithms. Groestl is a very good example of this. For reference, same cards can only go as high as 1066 on Scrypt.

Difficulty multiplied is required by sph-sgminer application only. In case of ccminer or CPU miners, it is not required. I actually think it is a pretty stupid idea to make it a separate param, or at least not defaulting to a proper value.
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Hello guys, I tried to crank-up GRS mining today to see what speed I can get. I will share my results and configs. If somebody is able to squeeze higher speeds with the same gpus, please share your configs.

GPU0&1 -> MSI R280X GAMING
GPU2    -> SAPPHIRE R290
sgminer -k groestlcoin --difficulty-multiplier 0.00390625 -o stratum+tcp://cryptohunger.com:3333 -u user -p pass -I 19,19,20 -g 1,1,2 --gpu-engine 1200,1200,1100  --gpu-memclock 1050,1050,1000 --gpu-fan 60

Hey guy,are you serious.GPU at 1200,Can really go that high?
I tried my asus dc2t and his iceqx2 280x can not run beyond 1120.
What is --difficulty-multiplier for?
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groestlcoin.biz

it would be nice to get a little bit more info about how many blocks are found by the pool each time it is found, and what is the speed and the balance of each user.

I completely agree. And I think this functionality is being worked on by the NOMP team. But to be honest, I don't think it is coming in the next weeks/months.

Here is what you can do at present time:

1) Found blocks are displayed in "blocks pending by pool" section in http://groestlcoin.biz/stats
2) You can see the public payouts ledger by the pool here: http://grs.42tx.com/address/FfHLhRfu5Gk4q8WxGu5Zngd3KxJCeNfthh
Notice how all that got mined is sent to miners by clicking on individual transactions.
3) And finally, you can "sort of" see your hashrate here: http://groestlcoin.biz/api/stats
I believe that it is possible to digest that info and show it in a nice way. But I'm not going to spend time on this yet. If you need statistics, one of the MPOS pools is a better choice.

PS: In case you are wondering why this NOMP pool is 0% fee... I'll tell you. That's because of another problem in NOMP. I actually set it to 1% fee, but it ignores it. So enjoy the 0% for now (until they fix it).
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The choice is connected to your hashrate iirc. Lower hashrate > Lower difficulty choice.

Somebody else can hopefully weigh in with more detail Smiley

Thanks Harold. I get the basic idea, but just have no idea where you would draw the line or if there is some basic formula or something to watch for that would give you an idea you should move up or down in difficulty.

I have about 19.4 Mhash/s but wonder sometimes about how sometimes you get 6-8 accepted work blocks (yay!!) in one stratum block, but on others you get none.

Also wondering if there is a way to see what the VarDiff is actually working at when you choose that one.

I can't be the only one who wonders these things Smiley

I assume you are using ccminer or CPU miner. Because in sgminer this information is clearly visible.

In the long run, the difficulty doesn't really matter. And you get same payout anyways. For example, some of the Scrypt multipools use a really high share difficulty (512 or 1024) to reduce server load.

19.4 mhash is probably difficulty of 32 on Groestl. I also have 2x R9 290, which gives about 19+ mhash, I can double check what I'm getting if you want. But as I said, if you are not sure - just use VARDIFF.
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How do you know which difficulty to use for the NOMP pool?

I know you can choose the vardiff port, but what should determine which you should be in on your own, and when to move?

Thanks for any insight.

URL (difficulty 16): stratum+tcp://groestlcoin.biz:3016
URL (difficulty 32): stratum+tcp://groestlcoin.biz:3032
URL (difficulty 64): stratum+tcp://groestlcoin.biz:3064
URL (difficulty 128): stratum+tcp://groestlcoin.biz:3128
URL (VARDIFF 16 - 128): stratum+tcp://groestlcoin.biz:3333

I would recommend to always use vardiff (port 3333). Unless you specifically want higher difficulty.
VARDIFF will automatically try to find your optimal difficulty so that you send approximately one share in 15 seconds.

Thanks
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it would be nice to get a little bit more info about how many blocks are found by the pool each time it is found, and what is the speed and the balance of each user.

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The choice is connected to your hashrate iirc. Lower hashrate > Lower difficulty choice.

Somebody else can hopefully weigh in with more detail Smiley

Thanks Harold. I get the basic idea, but just have no idea where you would draw the line or if there is some basic formula or something to watch for that would give you an idea you should move up or down in difficulty.

I have about 19.4 Mhash/s but wonder sometimes about how sometimes you get 6-8 accepted work blocks (yay!!) in one stratum block, but on others you get none.

Also wondering if there is a way to see what the VarDiff is actually working at when you choose that one.

I can't be the only one who wonders these things Smiley

Well with that ~20Mhash u dont need those lower diff settings. I think they'd only benefit <10Mhash

id just run port 3333 Wink
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The choice is connected to your hashrate iirc. Lower hashrate > Lower difficulty choice.

Somebody else can hopefully weigh in with more detail Smiley

Thanks Harold. I get the basic idea, but just have no idea where you would draw the line or if there is some basic formula or something to watch for that would give you an idea you should move up or down in difficulty.

I have about 19.4 Mhash/s but wonder sometimes about how sometimes you get 6-8 accepted work blocks (yay!!) in one stratum block, but on others you get none.

Also wondering if there is a way to see what the VarDiff is actually working at when you choose that one.

I can't be the only one who wonders these things Smiley
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