How does this work? I sent a PM and have the wallet and clicked the link on the OP the wallet.honor.co, not sure what that is for. I have the wallet downloaded.
Thanks.
the link is to pre register. Thanks.
Topic: [ANN][HONORCOIN][XHC] PoS | Anonymity Airdrop | Poloniex & Bittrex - page 65. (Read 126843 times)
June 07, 2014, 01:02:33 AM
June 07, 2014, 01:01:27 AM
How does this work? I sent a PM and have the wallet and clicked the link on the OP the wallet.honor.co, not sure what that is for. I have the wallet downloaded.
Thanks.
Thanks.
June 07, 2014, 01:01:14 AM
New article on Honorcoin: http://coinjoint.info/honorcoin-announces-anonymity-airdrop-mixing-system-based-coinjoin/
nice everything is moving forward! 
June 07, 2014, 12:51:10 AM
New article on Honorcoin: http://coinjoint.info/honorcoin-announces-anonymity-airdrop-mixing-system-based-coinjoin/
June 07, 2014, 12:32:32 AM
June 07, 2014, 12:30:31 AM
You seem to FUD every coin that might threaten DRK.
Care to point out the FUD?
Oh yes, there is none.
Unless you show me where is the FUD I'm supposedly spreading, someone else is full of BS - I'm afraid...
As to why I'm posting: Let's say I'm simply examining the angle of each player in the anonymous market. If one knows that the Darkcoin community & dev has decided long ago to opensource it and still maintains it goes against the principles of Satoshi - OK... then they are acting maliciously by presenting misinformation.
If they didn't know that opensourcing is scheduled, then it's an honest mistake and I have no issue with it.
Depending one's words and actions, the angle of the player is betrayed - as are the motives.
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Look if you don't like a coin, why are you posting in the thread? Why even get involved?
I own a few XHCs and I am waiting -as you are I imagine- to go to the moon. I buy a lot of anonymous coins because I'm a believer in the anonymous market. I rarely post in threads of coins I don't own. "Forgive" my low tolerance for BS.
June 07, 2014, 12:24:04 AM
Great online Wallet!
It's very easy and useful.
It's very easy and useful.
June 07, 2014, 12:23:46 AM
You seem to FUD every coin that might threaten DRK.
Care to point out the FUD?
Oh yes, there is none.
Chill dude, u dont need to pick fights to promote ur coin, ur ideals, ur religion, or watever else there is u feel passionate about. If the coin is repulsive to ur sensibilities, move threads. switch topics. jump off a cliff, watever XD
+1
+2
June 07, 2014, 12:23:20 AM
Sig updated.
June 07, 2014, 12:20:38 AM
You seem to FUD every coin that might threaten DRK.
Care to point out the FUD?
Oh yes, there is none.
Chill dude, u dont need to pick fights to promote ur coin, ur ideals, ur religion, or watever else there is u feel passionate about. If the coin is repulsive to ur sensibilities, move threads. switch topics. jump off a cliff, watever XD
+1
+2
June 07, 2014, 12:20:00 AM
FUD all you guys want, I got my spacesuit on and I am going to relax, sit back and enjoy the ride 
June 07, 2014, 12:19:15 AM
Good luck with Honorcoin, I'm just dropping a few notes regarding the announcement:
May I ask why the sudden interest in "privacy", beyond the "it's the latest trend"?
Darkcoin was concerned about the privacy issues like months ago... People said "oh, who will want to have Darkcoins... sounds sketchy... the government will ban you... it's a futile effort... it's money wasted as the exchanges will surely ban you... no no, that's a small niche we don't want to be associated with" - and other things like that.
How is it that suddenly everyone and their grandma "sees" the problem?
This crosses into misinformation territory. DarkSend was always intended to be open-sourced, once it is finished. The development plan itself, is updated often and has as the last milestone the release of the code to the community.
Time horizon for this was around early July now it's gone back by a month or so due to the issues that Darkcoin itself encountered in RC2. The anonymity aspect is still being worked and will get an upgrade in RC4.
You are right on that closed-source solutions are dangerous. They also require trust. DarkSend aims to be trustless and open when its finalized. It is not finalized and its peripheral elements (masternode payments) caused forking issues. Nobody is delaying this because they want to. It's simply evolving organically, as it did for months - it's just that now people take notice due to the rise in price.
As for cooperation between cryptocurrencies, that's almost absurd. Dark is crucified all day and night by Bitcoin + altcoins. Cooperation is not really the intent here.
The intent is "give me your code and I'll make a clone coin to cash out in a pump & dump" - just like it's happening already with all the coins that claim anonymity through some kind of central mixer or ...coin-forwarding-wallets that only cause laughter.
Let's be honest: Coins and coin devs don't care about the user's anonymity. They didn't care in the past (no interest in developing anonymity a few weeks or months ago), they don't care now. They only care to ride the latest train - and put their users privacy at risk while doing so. The only ones who do care and actually made something that works, go out in transparency, with their own name on the line, and are vilified with false information about "closed source" bs, when it's a known - in every development schedule of Darkcoin - that opensourcing will happen in a few weeks.
On top of that, DarkSend uses a heavily dis-incentivized system of having extremely expensive masternodes as a method to prevent "bad actors" from mapping the network. This value per masternode dis-incentive is a part of the game-theory component that makes DarkSend operational in Darkcoin.
Say DarkSend was opensourced right now and a new clone coin says "we will implement it". How are the users of that coin protected from having their transactions mapped when the marketcap of that coin is peanuts and anyone can buy all the nodes and map all transactions? Case in point, DarkSend would not really be an adequate solution for such coins and new solutions would have to be implemented anyway. There would be no 12.000 USD disincentive per node for bad actors because the coin marketcap is useless.
The only reason one would implement it would be to cash out on the ignorant because it would provide no security guarantee, outside the context of the game-theory component.
Again, good luck with the project + the anonymity solution you are working at. As citizens we'll need all the improvements we can get in that area.
The problem
In the Honorcoin team, we are concerned about the privacy issues Bitcoin-based cryptocurrencies have. Right now, the 99% percent of the altcoins have not addressed this problem, mainly, because many developers do not have the expertise to develop a solution.
In the Honorcoin team, we are concerned about the privacy issues Bitcoin-based cryptocurrencies have. Right now, the 99% percent of the altcoins have not addressed this problem, mainly, because many developers do not have the expertise to develop a solution.
May I ask why the sudden interest in "privacy", beyond the "it's the latest trend"?
Darkcoin was concerned about the privacy issues like months ago... People said "oh, who will want to have Darkcoins... sounds sketchy... the government will ban you... it's a futile effort... it's money wasted as the exchanges will surely ban you... no no, that's a small niche we don't want to be associated with" - and other things like that.
How is it that suddenly everyone and their grandma "sees" the problem?
Quote
Only a few coins have come with a solution for their own Blockchains, such as Darkcoin, Fedoracoin and others. Their solution is against cryptocurrency fundamentals, and what Satoshi Nakamoto wanted for Bitcoin. They have come up with a solution that is not open source, and they are not willing to share it with the rest of the coins, and teach how to implement it.
This crosses into misinformation territory. DarkSend was always intended to be open-sourced, once it is finished. The development plan itself, is updated often and has as the last milestone the release of the code to the community.
Time horizon for this was around early July now it's gone back by a month or so due to the issues that Darkcoin itself encountered in RC2. The anonymity aspect is still being worked and will get an upgrade in RC4.
Quote
Close-source solutions are dangerous to the Cryptocurrency space. If Bitcoin’s source code was not open source it would not have succeeded. Open source and cooperation is what drives cryptocurrencies. We need to stop closed-source solutions.
You are right on that closed-source solutions are dangerous. They also require trust. DarkSend aims to be trustless and open when its finalized. It is not finalized and its peripheral elements (masternode payments) caused forking issues. Nobody is delaying this because they want to. It's simply evolving organically, as it did for months - it's just that now people take notice due to the rise in price.
As for cooperation between cryptocurrencies, that's almost absurd. Dark is crucified all day and night by Bitcoin + altcoins. Cooperation is not really the intent here.
The intent is "give me your code and I'll make a clone coin to cash out in a pump & dump" - just like it's happening already with all the coins that claim anonymity through some kind of central mixer or ...coin-forwarding-wallets that only cause laughter.
Let's be honest: Coins and coin devs don't care about the user's anonymity. They didn't care in the past (no interest in developing anonymity a few weeks or months ago), they don't care now. They only care to ride the latest train - and put their users privacy at risk while doing so. The only ones who do care and actually made something that works, go out in transparency, with their own name on the line, and are vilified with false information about "closed source" bs, when it's a known - in every development schedule of Darkcoin - that opensourcing will happen in a few weeks.
On top of that, DarkSend uses a heavily dis-incentivized system of having extremely expensive masternodes as a method to prevent "bad actors" from mapping the network. This value per masternode dis-incentive is a part of the game-theory component that makes DarkSend operational in Darkcoin.
Say DarkSend was opensourced right now and a new clone coin says "we will implement it". How are the users of that coin protected from having their transactions mapped when the marketcap of that coin is peanuts and anyone can buy all the nodes and map all transactions? Case in point, DarkSend would not really be an adequate solution for such coins and new solutions would have to be implemented anyway. There would be no 12.000 USD disincentive per node for bad actors because the coin marketcap is useless.
The only reason one would implement it would be to cash out on the ignorant because it would provide no security guarantee, outside the context of the game-theory component.
Again, good luck with the project + the anonymity solution you are working at. As citizens we'll need all the improvements we can get in that area.
You seem to FUD every coin that might threaten DRK. You spammed the XC thread with the same passive agressive sophisticated book worm bullshit, while at the same time promoting DRK. How come you havn't spammed the other anon coins, is it because you dont see them as a threat?
gtfo
No one here cares about drk
June 07, 2014, 12:18:41 AM
This is the Anon Surprise we got:
Anonymity Airdrop PDF
Honorcoin
Honor, Anonymity, and Innovation for All
The problem
In the Honorcoin team, we are concerned about the privacy issues Bitcoin-based cryptocurrencies have. Right now, the 99% percent of the altcoins have not addressed this problem, mainly, because many developers do not have the expertise to develop a solution.
Only a few coins have come with a solution for their own Blockchains, such as Darkcoin, Fedoracoin and others. Their solution is against cryptocurrency fundamentals, and what Satoshi Nakamoto wanted for Bitcoin. They have come up with a solution that is not open source, and they are not willing to share it with the rest of the coins, and teach how to implement it.
Close-source solutions are dangerous to the Cryptocurrency space. If Bitcoin’s source code was not open source it would not have succeeded. Open source and cooperation is what drives cryptocurrencies. We need to stop closed-source solutions.
The Solution: Anonymity Airdrop
We have developed a thin wallet that connects to Nodes using a mixing system based in CoinJoin. This system will be entirely open source and we will publish a guide on how to easily set it up for any other altcoin.
Anonymity Airdrop
We have decided to call this event the Anonymity Airdrop since this software release will be a major change for cryptocurrencies in general. From this moment, every altcoin will have an anonymity solution. Close-source solutions like Darksend will no longer have the monopoly in Anonymity, and much likely become obsolete, for innovation is better in open source systems.
Calendar:
• June 9th – Daemon Beta Release and Technical Whitepaper.
• June 16th – Anonymity Airdrop: Source code and how to guide.
*We still do not have a date for a GUI wallet release.
Please put this in the OP Anonymity Airdrop PDF
Honorcoin
Honor, Anonymity, and Innovation for All
The problem
In the Honorcoin team, we are concerned about the privacy issues Bitcoin-based cryptocurrencies have. Right now, the 99% percent of the altcoins have not addressed this problem, mainly, because many developers do not have the expertise to develop a solution.
Only a few coins have come with a solution for their own Blockchains, such as Darkcoin, Fedoracoin and others. Their solution is against cryptocurrency fundamentals, and what Satoshi Nakamoto wanted for Bitcoin. They have come up with a solution that is not open source, and they are not willing to share it with the rest of the coins, and teach how to implement it.
Close-source solutions are dangerous to the Cryptocurrency space. If Bitcoin’s source code was not open source it would not have succeeded. Open source and cooperation is what drives cryptocurrencies. We need to stop closed-source solutions.
The Solution: Anonymity Airdrop
We have developed a thin wallet that connects to Nodes using a mixing system based in CoinJoin. This system will be entirely open source and we will publish a guide on how to easily set it up for any other altcoin.
Anonymity Airdrop
We have decided to call this event the Anonymity Airdrop since this software release will be a major change for cryptocurrencies in general. From this moment, every altcoin will have an anonymity solution. Close-source solutions like Darksend will no longer have the monopoly in Anonymity, and much likely become obsolete, for innovation is better in open source systems.
Calendar:
• June 9th – Daemon Beta Release and Technical Whitepaper.
• June 16th – Anonymity Airdrop: Source code and how to guide.
*We still do not have a date for a GUI wallet release.
June 07, 2014, 12:18:07 AM
You seem to FUD every coin that might threaten DRK.
Care to point out the FUD?
Oh yes, there is none.
Chill dude, u dont need to pick fights to promote ur coin, ur ideals, ur religion, or watever else there is u feel passionate about. If the coin is repulsive to ur sensibilities, move threads. switch topics. jump off a cliff, watever XD
June 07, 2014, 12:17:39 AM
You seem to FUD every coin that might threaten DRK.
Care to point out the FUD?
Oh yes, there is none.
June 07, 2014, 12:17:03 AM
Already staking, niceeee
June 07, 2014, 12:12:38 AM
You seem to FUD every coin that might threaten DRK.
Care to point out the FUD?
Oh yes, there is none.
June 07, 2014, 12:10:22 AM
Saw the volume and I am totally in. Long live XHC!
June 07, 2014, 12:09:59 AM
Good luck with Honorcoin, I'm just dropping a few notes regarding the announcement:
May I ask why the sudden interest in "privacy", beyond the "it's the latest trend"?
Darkcoin was concerned about the privacy issues like months ago... People said "oh, who will want to have Darkcoins... sounds sketchy... the government will ban you... it's a futile effort... it's money wasted as the exchanges will surely ban you... no no, that's a small niche we don't want to be associated with" - and other things like that.
How is it that suddenly everyone and their grandma "sees" the problem?
This crosses into misinformation territory. DarkSend was always intended to be open-sourced, once it is finished. The development plan itself, is updated often and has as the last milestone the release of the code to the community.
Time horizon for this was around early July now it's gone back by a month or so due to the issues that Darkcoin itself encountered in RC2. The anonymity aspect is still being worked and will get an upgrade in RC4.
You are right on that closed-source solutions are dangerous. They also require trust. DarkSend aims to be trustless and open when its finalized. It is not finalized and its peripheral elements (masternode payments) caused forking issues. Nobody is delaying this because they want to. It's simply evolving organically, as it did for months - it's just that now people take notice due to the rise in price.
As for cooperation between cryptocurrencies, that's almost absurd. Dark is crucified all day and night by Bitcoin + altcoins. Cooperation is not really the intent here.
The intent is "give me your code and I'll make a clone coin to cash out in a pump & dump" - just like it's happening already with all the coins that claim anonymity through some kind of central mixer or ...coin-forwarding-wallets that only cause laughter.
Let's be honest: Coins and coin devs don't care about the user's anonymity. They didn't care in the past (no interest in developing anonymity a few weeks or months ago), they don't care now. They only care to ride the latest train - and put their users privacy at risk while doing so. The only ones who do care and actually made something that works, go out in transparency, with their own name on the line, and are vilified with false information about "closed source" bs, when it's a known - in every development schedule of Darkcoin - that opensourcing will happen in a few weeks.
On top of that, DarkSend uses a heavily dis-incentivized system of having extremely expensive masternodes as a method to prevent "bad actors" from mapping the network. This value per masternode dis-incentive is a part of the game-theory component that makes DarkSend operational in Darkcoin.
Say DarkSend was opensourced right now and a new clone coin says "we will implement it". How are the users of that coin protected from having their transactions mapped when the marketcap of that coin is peanuts and anyone can buy all the nodes and map all transactions? Case in point, DarkSend would not really be an adequate solution for such coins and new solutions would have to be implemented anyway. There would be no 12.000 USD disincentive per node for bad actors because the coin marketcap is useless.
The only reason one would implement it would be to cash out on the ignorant because it would provide no security guarantee, outside the context of the game-theory component.
Again, good luck with the project + the anonymity solution you are working at. As citizens we'll need all the improvements we can get in that area.
The problem
In the Honorcoin team, we are concerned about the privacy issues Bitcoin-based cryptocurrencies have. Right now, the 99% percent of the altcoins have not addressed this problem, mainly, because many developers do not have the expertise to develop a solution.
In the Honorcoin team, we are concerned about the privacy issues Bitcoin-based cryptocurrencies have. Right now, the 99% percent of the altcoins have not addressed this problem, mainly, because many developers do not have the expertise to develop a solution.
May I ask why the sudden interest in "privacy", beyond the "it's the latest trend"?
Darkcoin was concerned about the privacy issues like months ago... People said "oh, who will want to have Darkcoins... sounds sketchy... the government will ban you... it's a futile effort... it's money wasted as the exchanges will surely ban you... no no, that's a small niche we don't want to be associated with" - and other things like that.
How is it that suddenly everyone and their grandma "sees" the problem?
Quote
Only a few coins have come with a solution for their own Blockchains, such as Darkcoin, Fedoracoin and others. Their solution is against cryptocurrency fundamentals, and what Satoshi Nakamoto wanted for Bitcoin. They have come up with a solution that is not open source, and they are not willing to share it with the rest of the coins, and teach how to implement it.
This crosses into misinformation territory. DarkSend was always intended to be open-sourced, once it is finished. The development plan itself, is updated often and has as the last milestone the release of the code to the community.
Time horizon for this was around early July now it's gone back by a month or so due to the issues that Darkcoin itself encountered in RC2. The anonymity aspect is still being worked and will get an upgrade in RC4.
Quote
Close-source solutions are dangerous to the Cryptocurrency space. If Bitcoin’s source code was not open source it would not have succeeded. Open source and cooperation is what drives cryptocurrencies. We need to stop closed-source solutions.
You are right on that closed-source solutions are dangerous. They also require trust. DarkSend aims to be trustless and open when its finalized. It is not finalized and its peripheral elements (masternode payments) caused forking issues. Nobody is delaying this because they want to. It's simply evolving organically, as it did for months - it's just that now people take notice due to the rise in price.
As for cooperation between cryptocurrencies, that's almost absurd. Dark is crucified all day and night by Bitcoin + altcoins. Cooperation is not really the intent here.
The intent is "give me your code and I'll make a clone coin to cash out in a pump & dump" - just like it's happening already with all the coins that claim anonymity through some kind of central mixer or ...coin-forwarding-wallets that only cause laughter.
Let's be honest: Coins and coin devs don't care about the user's anonymity. They didn't care in the past (no interest in developing anonymity a few weeks or months ago), they don't care now. They only care to ride the latest train - and put their users privacy at risk while doing so. The only ones who do care and actually made something that works, go out in transparency, with their own name on the line, and are vilified with false information about "closed source" bs, when it's a known - in every development schedule of Darkcoin - that opensourcing will happen in a few weeks.
On top of that, DarkSend uses a heavily dis-incentivized system of having extremely expensive masternodes as a method to prevent "bad actors" from mapping the network. This value per masternode dis-incentive is a part of the game-theory component that makes DarkSend operational in Darkcoin.
Say DarkSend was opensourced right now and a new clone coin says "we will implement it". How are the users of that coin protected from having their transactions mapped when the marketcap of that coin is peanuts and anyone can buy all the nodes and map all transactions? Case in point, DarkSend would not really be an adequate solution for such coins and new solutions would have to be implemented anyway. There would be no 12.000 USD disincentive per node for bad actors because the coin marketcap is useless.
The only reason one would implement it would be to cash out on the ignorant because it would provide no security guarantee, outside the context of the game-theory component.
Again, good luck with the project + the anonymity solution you are working at. As citizens we'll need all the improvements we can get in that area.
You seem to FUD every coin that might threaten DRK. You spammed the XC thread with the same passive agressive sophisticated book worm bullshit, while at the same time promoting DRK. How come you havn't spammed the other anon coins, is it because you dont see them as a threat?
June 07, 2014, 12:08:59 AM
congrats on 100+ btc volume
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