Topic: [ANN][HUC] Huntercoin - Worlds First Decentralized Game/World on the Blockchain - page 40. (Read 879551 times)

basically this

probably like the kimoto gravity well or whatever it was called which was implemented by someone.

The reason for adding the dual algo was to limit purposeful fluctuations, but without many big pools on both algos, it won't work great.. i did write a doc a few weeks ago about using more algos (myriad coin based, which was probably a bit of a copy of huc dual algo to begin with maybe ..),

If there are many algos, it's still possible for someone with big hash to blast one every now and then - but i did not know that myriad does not let you mine 2-3 blocks in a row of 1 algo - that could be interesting and worth thinking about.

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miners are (most probably) merge mining, miners pool hop, new pools are merge mining, peoples pools/daemons crash, multipools,

It's unlikely someone is speeding up and slowing down on purpose, why would they, they are probably best just mining the parent chain as much as they can based on HUCs current value..

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with huntercoin, sometimes you can get some big oscillations between between the algos if they get a lot of hash then get dropped...


difficulty has increased over the last few days for sha256.. overall, blocks should be faster than normal if difficulty is increasing until it balances out back to 2min (not checked script though)

block 1562000
Time: 2017-01-15 04:44:28
Difficulty: 10573387

block 1563000
Time: 2017-01-16 03:04:05
Difficulty: 7108925

block 1564000
Time: 2017-01-17 01:54:26
Difficulty: 4901020

block 1565000
Time: 2017-01-17 20:59:06
Difficulty: 4551718

block 1566000
Time: 2017-01-18 07:11:02
Difficulty: 7070979

block 1567000
Time: 2017-01-18 19:45:03
Difficulty: 9216295

block 1568000
Time: 2017-01-19 09:58:56
Difficulty: 10694642

block 1569000
Time: 2017-01-20 00:49:06
Difficulty: 11565838

block 1570000
Time: 2017-01-20 16:39:53
Difficulty: 11742223

Block 1571000
Time: 2017-01-21 07:22:35
Difficulty: 12924133

Block 1571200
Time: 2017-01-21 10:34:59
Difficulty: 13027035

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Part of my job is as a data analyst, and although there isn't much to analyse here, I'm well versed in tableau and dashboard creation.

If someone is able to output every block/info to mysql (in realtime too) and configure on my VPS - probably similar to what BGB has done, i will create all the dashboards possible, and upload to tableau public so people can see all the stats in real time - I can also combine this data with crypto-exchange data (tableau's webconnector works with most exchanges with an api that i have tried).

I've been meaning to get someone to do this for a while, just not had the chance.

Yeah, SnailBrain has wanted to change the mining system for a long time. A lot of these issues will be ameliorated when we have more and more stable/continuous hash power.

Two options come to mind for me:

• Use a more responsive diff retargeting algorithm
• Add more algorithms (like Myriadcoin uses five hashing algorithms, each with a five minute target, so averages out to one minute blocks; myriad also disallows a single algo from finding more than two or three blocks in a row I think)

Or convince f2pool to come back and mine both algos again.

I always monitored/played the game since the begin and i never faced so high burst of blocks, except when f2pool halted a bit his power and then restarted


I think this is the main issue, or better there is low mining power and sometimes someone turn on for a bit his horses and BUM...

and as a proof that this is an hashpower matters, the difficult is already 12665240.411003 after 5 min i took the screenshot, while 100 blocks before it was 12198582.656297

update:
block 1570323

Block	Difficulty
1570223	11946096.727004
1570323	12026720.890824
1570423	11930541.575989
1570523	12191819.41785
1570623	12641359.116998

look the spike on the last 100 blocks, where the weird blocks were noticeable
and after having pumped the SHA256, the miner started pumping Scrypt (look how Scrypt difficult rise so fast)

1570640   Scrypt   2017-01-21 01:56:54   11   1042.900586   1770.7510423757
1570639   Scrypt   2017-01-21 01:56:12   8   723.259173   1769.2141296503
1570638   Scrypt   2017-01-21 01:55:57   10   957.605   1768.409901675
1570637   SHA256   2017-01-21 01:55:43   12   1146.661759   12662469.055522
1570636   Scrypt   2017-01-21 01:54:52   11   1031.849   1767.5038365382
1570635   Scrypt   2017-01-21 01:53:54   10   937.396759   1766.1599145315
1570634   Scrypt   2017-01-21 01:53:26   11   1047.717145   1765.2256807371
1570633   SHA256   2017-01-21 01:53:01   11   1076.502759   12661739.953015
1570632   Scrypt   2017-01-21 01:52:30   11   1048.007145   1764.1895263484
1570631   Scrypt   2017-01-21 01:51:41   8   758.127172   1763.226972119
1570630   SHA256   2017-01-21 01:51:07   10   931.034074   12672393.19249
1570629   Scrypt   2017-01-21 01:50:47   6   544.209   1762.2943915493
1570628   Scrypt   2017-01-21 01:49:51   12   1143.643073   1760.9396047451
1570627   Scrypt   2017-01-21 01:49:24   9   857.269173   1759.949581106
1570626   Scrypt   2017-01-21 01:48:32   11   1036.334487   1761.7818564724
1570625   SHA256   2017-01-21 01:47:24   12   1189.400759   12665240.411003
1570624   SHA256   2017-01-21 01:46:32   8   718.374487   12653288.495869
1570623   SHA256   2017-01-21 01:46:26   11   4141.269322   12641359.116998
1570622   SHA256   2017-01-21 01:46:20   11   1037.782246   12630903.071409
1570621   SHA256   2017-01-21 01:45:59   9   872.578   12620754.041186


as you said, this block generation isn't compatible with a turn based game. A turn based system must have a stable timer, or as much stable as possible, or at very least a minimum granted time (about the minimum granted time, i think this is difficult because bitcoin doesn't have a reliable timer, date and times aren't reliable neither)

well one of the reason as stated above is in the old version we had to walk a mile ~ hour+ to get to the coins less combat, but now we are so close together, combat comes into play more often, so its now more noticeable, also not having a giant like f2pool to mine 99% of our blocks just adds even more randomness to the mix.

What could help things might be change to difficulty re targeting time (again like btc) ever 2100 blocks (i think) instead of ever block?

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i think some new design is coming soon?

I agree, but this never happened with the old version and when we had a f2pool mining the coin.


And look at the screenshot i've just taken, there are 5 or 6 blocks generated per minute.... this isn't a luck matter, this is an hashpower matter or something else

Well if anyone of you actually mined instead of just playing this game, you would all realize mining is a random luck draw, sometimes you find a block in (using btc) 10 mins sometimes longer and sometimes even under 10 mins. Making a turn base game on something that is so random is like playing on a ice lake, one day your going to fall through.

Not to mentioning some blocks get orphaned (like it never happened). Granted its a great idea that humans are the miners instead of ASIC but playing a game of turn base on a engine that is random in nature is not the best idea..

IMO

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the problem you have, and that everyone else have, is that block generation is really weird, it's not stable at all, so the theoretic formula of 1 block per minute is screwed, sometimes you see 2 blocks generated in few seconds, sometimes in a couple or more minutes, so this is hard to time at the right moment and often is a matter of luck

of course if you are facing someone who sends a move very quickly while you take time to think and plan your moves, and a block is generated fast before you decide, you probably are dead
on the other side, could happen the opposite: the player/bot who sends the move asap, and doesn't protect his move setting his first waypoint away from enemy, can have his destruct to happen earlier than he wanted thought, and so the hunter is exposed to the other player that took more time before pressing destruct

But i agree that the main problem is that the blocks are often too fast, this is something to investigate but i don't think there is someone cheating, the problem is just that there aren't stable miners (IMHO) or worse, there is some bug in the block generation alghoritm (I don't know if it's custom for huntercoin or not, i think it's a namecoin port but maybe namecoin suffer the same problem, but not being namecoin a turn based game, It can be gone unnoticed)

anyway faster blocks means someone couldn't handle many hunters and this is a good think because it leave spaces for other players to collect HUCs, on the other side if the game mechanics keeps being so simple, the chance that the bots take over is high (hint: ammo/armor system + cooldowns + power ups)

Bots are pretty fast, yeah. That's why I try not to be in combat with more than a couple Hunters at a time. Easier to run away then risk getting my attention span overwhelmed.


WTF?

He says he feels difficulties with moving his huc due to u being a ladyboy. He should be given a noble prize for that sentence alone, and I will give him the one.

i dont know,i dont understand,but bot can adapt with this and for human this is too fast

They can't.

probably what you are experiencing now is blockchain reorganisation.
In the past with just 1 miner it hardly ever or rarely happened (could say never but we have 2 algos). As you are now having to concentrate more on combat and probably more miners.. you are noticing it a lot more.
The blocks will appear to go back in time then forward.. Might even skip 2 or so blocks.

How many connections does it say you have in huntercoin qt?

snailbrain,can you explain why bot can palter block height,this game more disgust...,very crafty.imposible human win from bot if like this

devs. plz stop quarrelling

you guys are most respected ones in crypto.


you did a great job.  we won't blame you guys. even you are running bots.

lol yeah..was just looking at some guys fighting in and price dropping, looks like someone wants cheap coins

Cant STAMP the HUC 

HUC to 5000 sats this year

Don't worry about the drama Massive news coming soon

Just reading through the recent posts again --

I don't think anybody is blaming you for dominating.... i wish i had the time for it..
i did not have the time - in the last 1.5 years ago i had a baby daughter which took up most of my time along with the fiat job

when you see some fraud, give the exact block height.. and lets look. I still don't believe it but i'm willing to spend the time to look

atm, the only bots who are playing, I believe are MMs, Doesn't look like he's took over the whole map.. so he's not dominating atm may be..
was just based on the untidy json we spotted unique to mm client, and now comparing playstyle with current hunters on the map (with that json fixed)..
not sure if he was or wasn't denying it, but doesn't matter either way, not blaming or anything, i couldn't care less at the moment who or what.. in fact, it's pretty cool

Wiggi has autoloot feature in the better-qt client which is free to download.

and i'm pretty sure that none of the above are mining.