Topic: [ANN][HUC] Huntercoin - Worlds First Decentralized Game/World on the Blockchain - page 41. (Read 879724 times)

It's not about who dominator, but the fact how the redistribution of power!

The redistribution of power:
1. Who - bots!
2. How - fraud!
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1. Nobody says that robots or other people's bad or it is not convenient! With them even more interesting (not boring), but then they do not play by the rules!
2. As we remember this coin with an emphasis on human-mining, but not in the mining bot coin.

Please everyone had to fight and let's be divided! Current Dominators - because the area is free!

There are some consensus rules against invalid moves, which are actually checked and verified.  Invalid paths (or at least some parts of them, running through obstacles) are not part of that, though.  This was already so in the earliest versions, and I've simply never changed it.

I don't know if it was an oversight or how it came to be.  One reason might have been that it is not fully trivial to check an array of waypoints, since you have to replay them and simulate the whole path.  Maybe Mikhail thought it too complicated or expensive to do that for every tx for the benefits it has, especially since doing that for unconfirmed transactions could have created DoS vectors.  But that's just speculation.

Hi.

Thanks for the reply.
May be there are others.. do you work with osya?
In any case it's not really any of my business. I just tend to monitor playstyle and who attacks who to assume who is who. And your players seemed to have dominated the map without combat for a long time.

One thing to remember is.. originally, we did not design huntercoin to last this long. The game mechanics were not thought out from the start to be a full on game.
We expected to continue updating the client for no more than a year and then to start developing chronokings if we deemed huntercoin a success. Although the game is far from perfect, the concept and it's purpose was/is a success.  
We expected the game world to be overrun by bots before release (and posted that) as we did not want to waste time and resources without a live run/test.. aka huntercoin experiment.
As the dev I was hiring to help with the c++ passed away it restricted the original plan.. we have now supported the project as well as we could with limited resources.. no funding, in our spare time for 3 years..


The unity client should be getting some auto loot feature soon but bot combat may be some time off.

There should also be some more interesting announcement in the not too distant future..

Apologies ive rushed this message from my mobile but I'll check it later.

if not you,maybe your friend or BGB(king of bot),
that you may know, I am not alone be the dominator,maybe I only control 30% of the map for all this time, and now perhaps only15%.why you think if we did not Become dominator, no dominator else,and you can see now bot is dominator.so all the games even in real live, the best will always be the dominator, like the United States that became world dominator.
if you blame us because there are fewer players, you're wrong, I think it is related to the price of which dropped dramatically .if you want this game a lot of players, HUC prices should rise dramatically or changing this game so interesting to play.not  destroying dominator with fraudulently,you rather it increasingly destroys this game.and I've contributed 10000 huc to the development fund previous.only me,i dont know dominator others

Im talking about those ones that were using the r/n etc.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.17525383
Those ones and their playstyle are dominating afaik.

Tbh I've only been spot checking the map when I log in.

I thought you admitted to that earlier.

I never said or accused you of being it in the past.. I asked if it was you mm never accused you of it.

Take a chill pill..

It's since the game started that you keep linking me with bots, you even though I was BGB, I don't get why you are obsessed by me but ok, go ahead accusing me, pointing fingers at others could be a clue about something to hide.

I never accused you to run bots, I remember domob long time ago created a little framework and he was interested even on creating something (if i remember) that involve ants behaviours
I never accused anyone to run bots (I have to say somewhat i even apprecciate them when they are smart, within a programmer POV) but instead I focused on how to prevent someone running easy bots (without just rising costs or ridiculous fees) and this motivated me to create my client to counter those bots, giving people some tools (like insights and my automatic behaviours)... client that you made me quit to support because of your behaviour and habit to be harsh with people who try to help, and even worse with people who have a different idea than yours.

Now enjoy the consequences, but please do not involve me in your speeches


P.S.
you even said i was the old dominator or that I was splitting the income with him, lol...
about the dominator issue, i agree that could be a good news if and only if no new dominator take his place, otherwise is just changing the dominator name

the current domintator is MithrilMans bot (afaik).

I've not been playing for the last couple of weeks..

i've also not hacked your wallet...

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It seems your time as the dominator (1 to 2 years??) has come to an end..

what you should really have done, was, instead of dumping all the coins, was donating a large chunk to the development fund - probably you amassed upwards of 8-10million HUCs but have sold almost all?
if you'd have donated say 10% to the development fund ...

I'm trying to find some real updates here , where are we ?
 
Please throw in , on occasion , some sensical comments 
for the lazy ones who don't want to go through the entire
thread of funny stuff that has to be interpreted/deciphered

HUC forever !

I have already described the situation today! I think all of us believe blockheads (like you guys are not experienced and all that)  

congratulations your bot is dominator now

you are genius snaibrain,genius devil,cheater fuck,you hack my wallet ,cause i can not moving my hunter,move block height arbitrarily(accelerate,slowdown,accelerate,slowdown)why?you cant beat me without cheat?,This game really makes crazy

Firstly, hook up snailbrain's shirt to a rear bumper of a randomly chosen van, secondly, find somewhere a cutlery knife, wear Jason Voorhees' mask on ur face and start walking in front of a van. Driver will see u and get moving, making snailbrain's body drag behind his car. Can u imagine his pain?

I don't know if it was unity or which client, but the sent transaction, had a waypoint set on a non walkable position and this shouldn't even be accepted in the blockchain i'd say, but maybe that check wasn't included and so went in. Anyway the game logic itself (huntercore) handle it, stopping the movement of the hunter on the last valid positionbut my client assumed (wrongly) that accepted moves were containing only valid waypoints and so my pathfinding+linearization alghoritm (i don't use the rpc call to compute the paths) crashed (of course I fixed that, but i was surprised by the invalid move itself)

Note that I talk about waypoints, so the cells that the user selected building their paths, because the game was already handling the eventual invalid moves that could happen during the linearization process.

P.S.
I'm not sure that invalid moves should be accepted into the blockchain, even if handled, because they violate the consensus rules (game rules). I'm wondering if there are other kind of invalid transactions that could cause bigger troubles

I understand that you do not understand what is at stake. Therefore it is better to remain silent and not to interfere!

I apologize for the sharpness!

may be need to do some addnodes - the huntercore client doesn't have any static nodes configured. I included the peers.dat which had some nodes i have connected to. did you use this?

the unity client doesn't allow to do any invalid moves (moving into an obstacle) so i'm not sure how that could have crashed your client.. it's possible, as with the QT, if the hunter was already moving and then the move became invalid later, because the path then goes through an obstacle, it becomes invalid, in which case it normally stops at the obstacle in the gamestate.

How can you be "sure" that something is maliciously interfering with the network if you cannot discuss the issue in detail with MithrilMan? He's not really biased on SnailBrain's side, or anything. We can try to look for the Hunter you mentioned earlier at the block time you said suspicious stuff happened, but domob is very busy; we shouldn't overly bother the developers too much.

MithrilMan
Yes, you are right saying, but underestimate / protect intruders!
There is to be a slow review / processing of data from the Unity compared to your client (your ideal client was compared), but that's not all ... I am not so expert in the software as you, but I'm sure that there's something that interferes with the operation of the network in some way! There are many things that are not affiliated with a processing speed!

"ik" do not use bots, and no additional software to play a few hands of man. And I never used anything like this!

domob

And what are you then could add to our discussion?

I've not checked the network recently, in theory this could happen (and I think I mentioned it from time to time, we certainly want a set of unpruned nodes running on the network!).  My own client is unpruned, but I only run it from time to time when my laptop is on.

what you see is an evidence of my client, is just an evidence that the command is sent using a formatted (indented) json, and that's the standard behaviour of many libraries (on .Net that's the standard JObject.ToString of Json, the de-facto standard of json).

I'm not even sure if I already "fixed" that problem (there is nothing wrong sending a formatted json, except the wasted space and so a lenghty transaction)


@ OSYA:
During my game sessions, i died several times vs ik guys (and b and r ) in past days, in "weird" ways, often (or better, mostly) when the blocks are generated very fast or very slow, so you should be fair and admit that you won even matches because of strange net behaviour. If you are the *ik* guy, you are playing with around 40/50 hunters, a lot!!!

I even experienced lot of moves that were accepted after 3 blocks, but this could be because of fast block generation and bad timing (when a new block arrive, you send a move but once it reach the miner, a new block has been already been mined) and even pending moves sometimes are misleading, because when you receive one, maybe a block has been already generated and this could lead to unexpected behaviour (you think he'll destroy in 2 block when it explode the very next block)

Anyway I agree that this way the gameplay is compromised, because with too fast blocks the time to react is little and this advantage bots
Did you use a bot with ik? it seems that it caused my client to crash because it sent an invalid move (a waypoint over a non walkable cell). If you are using Unity client than it's a Unity client bug.


Anyway often at night (here) someone turn on mining power because blocks are generated very fast (even 3 per minute), the network need a stable mining network


@Domob/Snailbrain
I installed the unity+huntercore pack with the pruned blockchain (OP link), and when i tried to start the huntercore, it didn't downloaded any blocks, could this because the current nodes are only pruned nodes and i can't update because there are missing blocks from the uploaded version to the current one?
If yes, this prevent any new player to join the game...

I use regularly


It happens to all of the bot hunters all over the map! Their destruct does not work according to the rules, and how to bot owner!


This situation was repeated to me twice! What it was I can not say the block


This happens very often! Recently, more and more often!
I will not enumerate all situations, but one of them in 1566227+ block  "ik14" killed "ik30"

Examine the situation around Hunter b6 block 1566450+. I can not describe this disorder censorship words, it must be seen!
I do not know how it will look in the history ... In fact, it looked like the blocks back and forth and waiting hunters at all times


all is well with my Internet connection! I never complained! From Computers is also not dependent!