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batako
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Re: [ANN][ICO] EHF eHealth First
March 01, 2018, 10:39:22 PM
#3906
Quote from: cmg12 on March 01, 2018, 06:06:14 PM
Quote from: Vansire on March 01, 2018, 05:42:07 PM
Quote from: belechau on February 28, 2018, 05:50:51 PM
Quote from: Vansire on February 28, 2018, 05:22:10 PM
There isn't really a problem with large bonuses for the reason you mentioned, locked up Ether for a long period.

But there's a problem when only big investors can claim a bonus. That just means the rich will always have the upper hand and small investors have to pay a penalty for not being rich.
the big holders, rich, as you mentioned, are rich for a reason, are patient, hold their coins and face the difficult times with them, many small investors want to grow, but do not hold in moments that should support the currency out of fear, or for wanting quick wins

Then rich investors always have an it easier and continue to get benefits while for smaller investors it'll be harder to make a profit. But that's just the way cookie crumbles. You need money to make money.
Being rich investor comes with great risks because you you make a bad choice then you'll lost a lot of money

Big investors risked more money than the smaller one and that is why they have to be treated differently.  Such practices are very common.
saintkamei
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Re: [ANN][ICO] EHF eHealth First
March 01, 2018, 07:50:20 PM
#3905
Quote from: hicaribou on March 01, 2018, 06:56:06 PM
Quote from: Voltaje on March 01, 2018, 06:16:15 PM
Quote from: hicaribou on March 01, 2018, 06:11:03 PM
Quote from: saintkamei on March 01, 2018, 06:03:11 PM
Quote from: Voltaje on February 28, 2018, 10:05:08 PM

the whitepaper and the project is very COMPLEX, so we already know this is legit, and I already confirmed with one of the advisors that this is legit as well, the picture was posted almost at the beginning, BUT, what is scaring investors is the TIME, 7 years roadmap until a functioning product is launch, so this will be HUGE, but one must be patient, I would recommend investing 10k that you won't need for a while, and forget until 2030.

Yes, this looks like a risky investment considering the timeline but all things considered, I believe the value of the coin will increase with each timeline met. So, yes it wouldn't be stuck. The privacy coin verge too spiked without having any product ready.
The development progress should be very interesting and attractive to the comunity , make the community keep informed.
Tell the community about the progress / what they do in the lab like posting pictures / upload videos regularly will be very nice.

That certainly will happen, but it will make the project speculative, so it will be moved by the market, bitcoin, and ethereum, and the news may or may not increase the price, as I said, this is risky and long-term, but a solid investment nonetheless.
Its always speculative if there is no prototype yet, it applies to all ICO.
But good communication will make the investors be more confident, and many more will jump in during the progress.

It is the nature of the game here in Crypto eco-system but I have found that it depends a lot on the team whether to make that a risky proposition or not. NAVcoin despite meeting targets, developing real world usage have shied away from artificially bumping the coin price by keeping their heads down and just working despite pressure from the investor community. It is the only project I know where the community pooled fund for a coin to be listed at an exchange - Binance. For projects like eHealth, it will be difficult because of the lengthy timeline but if the team keep meeting the targets, it should be alright. A balance between speculation and performance will be the way to go.
PS92
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Re: [ANN][ICO] EHF eHealth First
March 01, 2018, 06:59:26 PM
#3904
Quote from: omwibya on March 01, 2018, 07:42:24 AM
Quote from: cantdecide on March 01, 2018, 06:54:01 AM
Quote from: pynetx on March 01, 2018, 05:16:32 AM
Quote from: levyashin on February 28, 2018, 06:35:42 AM
Quote from: pynetx on February 28, 2018, 05:28:57 AM
AI can do better than human in repetitive tasks but still, human intervention will be needed for many parts.

You are talking about today and you are more than right.

But we can't predict how improve ai in the future. Can it be better than human in every area?

Today, tomorrow or 2050. I cannot and won't trust AI with all the stuff in the world. It will be doomsday if we let them do everything. They will take over everything then.

Well, at some points it will not be your decision if big companies will use AI over humans then. And then we all are doomed Cheesy

we're not gonna be doomed ffs. true AI doesn't exist and is unlikely it will anytime soon.

And what do you think entails "true AI"?
hicaribou
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Merit: 502
Re: [ANN][ICO] EHF eHealth First
March 01, 2018, 06:56:06 PM
#3903
Quote from: Voltaje on March 01, 2018, 06:16:15 PM
Quote from: hicaribou on March 01, 2018, 06:11:03 PM
Quote from: saintkamei on March 01, 2018, 06:03:11 PM
Quote from: Voltaje on February 28, 2018, 10:05:08 PM

the whitepaper and the project is very COMPLEX, so we already know this is legit, and I already confirmed with one of the advisors that this is legit as well, the picture was posted almost at the beginning, BUT, what is scaring investors is the TIME, 7 years roadmap until a functioning product is launch, so this will be HUGE, but one must be patient, I would recommend investing 10k that you won't need for a while, and forget until 2030.

Yes, this looks like a risky investment considering the timeline but all things considered, I believe the value of the coin will increase with each timeline met. So, yes it wouldn't be stuck. The privacy coin verge too spiked without having any product ready.
The development progress should be very interesting and attractive to the comunity , make the community keep informed.
Tell the community about the progress / what they do in the lab like posting pictures / upload videos regularly will be very nice.

That certainly will happen, but it will make the project speculative, so it will be moved by the market, bitcoin, and ethereum, and the news may or may not increase the price, as I said, this is risky and long-term, but a solid investment nonetheless.
Its always speculative if there is no prototype yet, it applies to all ICO.
But good communication will make the investors be more confident, and many more will jump in during the progress.
Voltaje
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Merit: 250
Re: [ANN][ICO] EHF eHealth First
March 01, 2018, 06:16:15 PM
#3902
Quote from: hicaribou on March 01, 2018, 06:11:03 PM
Quote from: saintkamei on March 01, 2018, 06:03:11 PM
Quote from: Voltaje on February 28, 2018, 10:05:08 PM

the whitepaper and the project is very COMPLEX, so we already know this is legit, and I already confirmed with one of the advisors that this is legit as well, the picture was posted almost at the beginning, BUT, what is scaring investors is the TIME, 7 years roadmap until a functioning product is launch, so this will be HUGE, but one must be patient, I would recommend investing 10k that you won't need for a while, and forget until 2030.

Yes, this looks like a risky investment considering the timeline but all things considered, I believe the value of the coin will increase with each timeline met. So, yes it wouldn't be stuck. The privacy coin verge too spiked without having any product ready.
The development progress should be very interesting and attractive to the comunity , make the community keep informed.
Tell the community about the progress / what they do in the lab like posting pictures / upload videos regularly will be very nice.

That certainly will happen, but it will make the project speculative, so it will be moved by the market, bitcoin, and ethereum, and the news may or may not increase the price, as I said, this is risky and long-term, but a solid investment nonetheless.
hicaribou
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Re: [ANN][ICO] EHF eHealth First
March 01, 2018, 06:11:03 PM
#3901
Quote from: saintkamei on March 01, 2018, 06:03:11 PM
Quote from: Voltaje on February 28, 2018, 10:05:08 PM

the whitepaper and the project is very COMPLEX, so we already know this is legit, and I already confirmed with one of the advisors that this is legit as well, the picture was posted almost at the beginning, BUT, what is scaring investors is the TIME, 7 years roadmap until a functioning product is launch, so this will be HUGE, but one must be patient, I would recommend investing 10k that you won't need for a while, and forget until 2030.

Yes, this looks like a risky investment considering the timeline but all things considered, I believe the value of the coin will increase with each timeline met. So, yes it wouldn't be stuck. The privacy coin verge too spiked without having any product ready.
The development progress should be very interesting and attractive to the comunity , make the community keep informed.
Tell the community about the progress / what they do in the lab like posting pictures / upload videos regularly will be very nice.
cmg12
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Merit: 106
Re: [ANN][ICO] EHF eHealth First
March 01, 2018, 06:06:14 PM
#3900
Quote from: Vansire on March 01, 2018, 05:42:07 PM
Quote from: belechau on February 28, 2018, 05:50:51 PM
Quote from: Vansire on February 28, 2018, 05:22:10 PM
There isn't really a problem with large bonuses for the reason you mentioned, locked up Ether for a long period.

But there's a problem when only big investors can claim a bonus. That just means the rich will always have the upper hand and small investors have to pay a penalty for not being rich.
the big holders, rich, as you mentioned, are rich for a reason, are patient, hold their coins and face the difficult times with them, many small investors want to grow, but do not hold in moments that should support the currency out of fear, or for wanting quick wins

Then rich investors always have an it easier and continue to get benefits while for smaller investors it'll be harder to make a profit. But that's just the way cookie crumbles. You need money to make money.
Being rich investor comes with great risks because you you make a bad choice then you'll lost a lot of money
saintkamei
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Merit: 10
Re: [ANN][ICO] EHF eHealth First
March 01, 2018, 06:03:11 PM
#3899
Quote from: Voltaje on February 28, 2018, 10:05:08 PM
Quote from: saintkamei on February 28, 2018, 09:59:20 PM
Quote from: helloal on February 28, 2018, 04:54:36 PM
Quote from: saintkamei on February 28, 2018, 04:32:41 PM
Quote from: Axcel-m on February 28, 2018, 02:35:29 PM
Quote from: niklasmato on February 28, 2018, 02:10:20 PM
Quote from: lobat999 on February 28, 2018, 08:56:22 AM

I guess some investors are in a wait and see attitude on the progress of the ICO. I hope the ICO turnout will be impressive. Smiley


That's some big bonuses. 55%  although on the website I see that until 17 March the bonus is from 45-70%

Yes huge bonuses but restricted to large investors that bring alot of money. A few sites before this topic was discussed that it is usual to have bonuses like that.

As always, early investors deserve more for creating initial buzz as well as for the fact that their investment will be frozen for a lot longer than someone who comes in later. In this case, six or seven months.

A larger reason is that it is naturally more risky for early investors as there is less clarity around the project and less developments.

So, quite naturally, people who plonked the money before the whitepaper 'book' deserves more. A lot of people were skeptical of the timeline when it started but the exhaustive whitepaper seems to have turned things around.

the whitepaper and the project is very COMPLEX, so we already know this is legit, and I already confirmed with one of the advisors that this is legit as well, the picture was posted almost at the beginning, BUT, what is scaring investors is the TIME, 7 years roadmap until a functioning product is launch, so this will be HUGE, but one must be patient, I would recommend investing 10k that you won't need for a while, and forget until 2030.

Yes, this looks like a risky investment considering the timeline but all things considered, I believe the value of the coin will increase with each timeline met. So, yes it wouldn't be stuck. The privacy coin verge too spiked without having any product ready.
belechau
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Re: [ANN][ICO] EHF eHealth First
March 01, 2018, 05:51:50 PM
#3898
Quote from: Vansire on March 01, 2018, 05:42:07 PM
Quote from: belechau on February 28, 2018, 05:50:51 PM
Quote from: Vansire on February 28, 2018, 05:22:10 PM
There isn't really a problem with large bonuses for the reason you mentioned, locked up Ether for a long period.

But there's a problem when only big investors can claim a bonus. That just means the rich will always have the upper hand and small investors have to pay a penalty for not being rich.
the big holders, rich, as you mentioned, are rich for a reason, are patient, hold their coins and face the difficult times with them, many small investors want to grow, but do not hold in moments that should support the currency out of fear, or for wanting quick wins

Then rich investors always have an it easier and continue to get benefits while for smaller investors it'll be harder to make a profit. But that's just the way cookie crumbles. You need money to make money.
I've been for a while in the crypto for quick gains, and this led me to believe how impatient we are in some cases, I've seen promising projects like Ehealth becoming a success in the future after my total sale of tokens, and seeing the opportunity pass by a few times
Vansire
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Re: [ANN][ICO] EHF eHealth First
March 01, 2018, 05:42:07 PM
#3897
Quote from: belechau on February 28, 2018, 05:50:51 PM
Quote from: Vansire on February 28, 2018, 05:22:10 PM
There isn't really a problem with large bonuses for the reason you mentioned, locked up Ether for a long period.

But there's a problem when only big investors can claim a bonus. That just means the rich will always have the upper hand and small investors have to pay a penalty for not being rich.
the big holders, rich, as you mentioned, are rich for a reason, are patient, hold their coins and face the difficult times with them, many small investors want to grow, but do not hold in moments that should support the currency out of fear, or for wanting quick wins

Then rich investors always have an it easier and continue to get benefits while for smaller investors it'll be harder to make a profit. But that's just the way cookie crumbles. You need money to make money.
cevap
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Merit: 10
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Re: [ANN][ICO] EHF eHealth First
March 01, 2018, 05:20:22 PM
#3896
Quote from: helloal on March 01, 2018, 05:02:49 PM
Quote from: aveon on March 01, 2018, 05:00:35 PM
Quote from: wissy on March 01, 2018, 04:36:13 PM
Quote from: helloal on March 01, 2018, 02:34:14 AM
Quote from: Piggy on March 01, 2018, 01:43:44 AM
Maybe now with the new month beginning we will get a summary, if possible, of how the sale is going so far. There are now a couple of weeks before the stat of the pre-ico phase

I wouldn’t be surprised if the poor market conditions have depressed the sales so far. Nevertheless, we would all be still interested in seeing the status of things.

This private round has been going for quite a long time, so I hope that everyone who wanted to participate is on board, despite the market conditions. As for the summary, we'll probably get it in the end of the sale, not so much time left.
What's wrong with the market? I haven't been here for a couple of days and so many changes. The crypto prices are pretty ok, so what's wrong with the situation?

We’re not talking about the past few days, we’re talking about the past few weeks. Altcoins and btc have been bearish, and only a little bullish at times

I think I read somewhere that total market cap of crypto decreased by a significant percentage as a result of recent drop in prices and no doubt many investors withdrew. The question is, how long it will take us to move on and recover.
Bolovich
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Re: [ANN][ICO] EHF eHealth First
March 01, 2018, 05:13:16 PM
#3895
Quote from: helloal on March 01, 2018, 05:02:49 PM
Quote from: aveon on March 01, 2018, 05:00:35 PM
Quote from: wissy on March 01, 2018, 04:36:13 PM
Quote from: helloal on March 01, 2018, 02:34:14 AM
Quote from: Piggy on March 01, 2018, 01:43:44 AM
Maybe now with the new month beginning we will get a summary, if possible, of how the sale is going so far. There are now a couple of weeks before the stat of the pre-ico phase

I wouldn’t be surprised if the poor market conditions have depressed the sales so far. Nevertheless, we would all be still interested in seeing the status of things.

This private round has been going for quite a long time, so I hope that everyone who wanted to participate is on board, despite the market conditions. As for the summary, we'll probably get it in the end of the sale, not so much time left.
What's wrong with the market? I haven't been here for a couple of days and so many changes. The crypto prices are pretty ok, so what's wrong with the situation?

We’re not talking about the past few days, we’re talking about the past few weeks. Altcoins and btc have been bearish, and only a little bullish at times
The market is still unstable but fortunately it seems that bitcoin's fall has stopped.
helloal
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Re: [ANN][ICO] EHF eHealth First
March 01, 2018, 05:02:49 PM
#3894
Quote from: aveon on March 01, 2018, 05:00:35 PM
Quote from: wissy on March 01, 2018, 04:36:13 PM
Quote from: helloal on March 01, 2018, 02:34:14 AM
Quote from: Piggy on March 01, 2018, 01:43:44 AM
Maybe now with the new month beginning we will get a summary, if possible, of how the sale is going so far. There are now a couple of weeks before the stat of the pre-ico phase

I wouldn’t be surprised if the poor market conditions have depressed the sales so far. Nevertheless, we would all be still interested in seeing the status of things.

This private round has been going for quite a long time, so I hope that everyone who wanted to participate is on board, despite the market conditions. As for the summary, we'll probably get it in the end of the sale, not so much time left.
What's wrong with the market? I haven't been here for a couple of days and so many changes. The crypto prices are pretty ok, so what's wrong with the situation?

We’re not talking about the past few days, we’re talking about the past few weeks. Altcoins and btc have been bearish, and only a little bullish at times
aveon
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Re: [ANN][ICO] EHF eHealth First
March 01, 2018, 05:00:35 PM
#3893
Quote from: wissy on March 01, 2018, 04:36:13 PM
Quote from: helloal on March 01, 2018, 02:34:14 AM
Quote from: Piggy on March 01, 2018, 01:43:44 AM
Maybe now with the new month beginning we will get a summary, if possible, of how the sale is going so far. There are now a couple of weeks before the stat of the pre-ico phase

I wouldn’t be surprised if the poor market conditions have depressed the sales so far. Nevertheless, we would all be still interested in seeing the status of things.

This private round has been going for quite a long time, so I hope that everyone who wanted to participate is on board, despite the market conditions. As for the summary, we'll probably get it in the end of the sale, not so much time left.
What's wrong with the market? I haven't been here for a couple of days and so many changes. The crypto prices are pretty ok, so what's wrong with the situation?
wissy
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Re: [ANN][ICO] EHF eHealth First
March 01, 2018, 04:36:13 PM
#3892
Quote from: helloal on March 01, 2018, 02:34:14 AM
Quote from: Piggy on March 01, 2018, 01:43:44 AM
Maybe now with the new month beginning we will get a summary, if possible, of how the sale is going so far. There are now a couple of weeks before the stat of the pre-ico phase

I wouldn’t be surprised if the poor market conditions have depressed the sales so far. Nevertheless, we would all be still interested in seeing the status of things.

This private round has been going for quite a long time, so I hope that everyone who wanted to participate is on board, despite the market conditions. As for the summary, we'll probably get it in the end of the sale, not so much time left.
Jay2408
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🚀🚀 ATHERO.IO 🚀🚀
Re: [ANN][ICO] EHF eHealth First
March 01, 2018, 04:29:48 PM
#3891
Quote from: cmg12 on March 01, 2018, 04:06:12 PM
Quote from: Bolovich on March 01, 2018, 03:51:41 PM
Quote from: viljy on March 01, 2018, 03:21:35 PM
Quote from: zgrdyg on March 01, 2018, 01:11:35 PM
Quote from: Jay2408 on March 01, 2018, 01:08:52 PM
Quote from: zgrdyg on March 01, 2018, 01:01:26 PM
Quote from: ParRus on March 01, 2018, 12:50:12 PM
eHealth First was evaluated by Icobench platform, 4.6 excellent rating!
https://icobench.com/ico/ehealth-first

4.6 is good rating. Also ehealth is the best project until now in health area as far as i see.

This rating actually doesn't say anything and is imo completely useless as it's just the bot rating, not a single expert has given his score.

As far as i know arent there some certain rules about grading the project? Or some standard?

There is already an assessment of one expert. And the score is now 4.3. In general, do not rely on ratings. These estimates are very subjective.
I agree that we can not totally believe what we see on rankings, there are many interest involve on that.
This is why you have to do your own due diligence before investing in any ico!  Cool

Due diligence isn't that easy in the case of EHF, given the extensive white paper that needs to be read.
cmg12
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Re: [ANN][ICO] EHF eHealth First
March 01, 2018, 04:06:12 PM
#3890
Quote from: Bolovich on March 01, 2018, 03:51:41 PM
Quote from: viljy on March 01, 2018, 03:21:35 PM
Quote from: zgrdyg on March 01, 2018, 01:11:35 PM
Quote from: Jay2408 on March 01, 2018, 01:08:52 PM
Quote from: zgrdyg on March 01, 2018, 01:01:26 PM
Quote from: ParRus on March 01, 2018, 12:50:12 PM
eHealth First was evaluated by Icobench platform, 4.6 excellent rating!
https://icobench.com/ico/ehealth-first

4.6 is good rating. Also ehealth is the best project until now in health area as far as i see.

This rating actually doesn't say anything and is imo completely useless as it's just the bot rating, not a single expert has given his score.

As far as i know arent there some certain rules about grading the project? Or some standard?

There is already an assessment of one expert. And the score is now 4.3. In general, do not rely on ratings. These estimates are very subjective.
I agree that we can not totally believe what we see on rankings, there are many interest involve on that.
This is why you have to do your own due diligence before investing in any ico!  Cool
Bolovich
member
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Merit: 10
Re: [ANN][ICO] EHF eHealth First
March 01, 2018, 03:51:41 PM
#3889
Quote from: viljy on March 01, 2018, 03:21:35 PM
Quote from: zgrdyg on March 01, 2018, 01:11:35 PM
Quote from: Jay2408 on March 01, 2018, 01:08:52 PM
Quote from: zgrdyg on March 01, 2018, 01:01:26 PM
Quote from: ParRus on March 01, 2018, 12:50:12 PM
eHealth First was evaluated by Icobench platform, 4.6 excellent rating!
https://icobench.com/ico/ehealth-first

4.6 is good rating. Also ehealth is the best project until now in health area as far as i see.

This rating actually doesn't say anything and is imo completely useless as it's just the bot rating, not a single expert has given his score.

As far as i know arent there some certain rules about grading the project? Or some standard?

There is already an assessment of one expert. And the score is now 4.3. In general, do not rely on ratings. These estimates are very subjective.
I agree that we can not totally believe what we see on rankings, there are many interest involve on that.
niklasmato
sr. member
Activity: 616
Merit: 263
Re: [ANN][ICO] EHF eHealth First
March 01, 2018, 03:51:29 PM
#3888
Quote from: viljy on March 01, 2018, 03:21:35 PM
Quote from: zgrdyg on March 01, 2018, 01:11:35 PM
Quote from: Jay2408 on March 01, 2018, 01:08:52 PM
Quote from: zgrdyg on March 01, 2018, 01:01:26 PM
Quote from: ParRus on March 01, 2018, 12:50:12 PM
eHealth First was evaluated by Icobench platform, 4.6 excellent rating!
https://icobench.com/ico/ehealth-first

4.6 is good rating. Also ehealth is the best project until now in health area as far as i see.

This rating actually doesn't say anything and is imo completely useless as it's just the bot rating, not a single expert has given his score.

As far as i know arent there some certain rules about grading the project? Or some standard?

There is already an assessment of one expert. And the score is now 4.3. In general, do not rely on ratings. These estimates are very subjective.

Exactly.. the phrase DYOR (do your own research still holds up).
viljy
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Activity: 1736
Merit: 857
Re: [ANN][ICO] EHF eHealth First
March 01, 2018, 03:21:35 PM
#3887
Quote from: zgrdyg on March 01, 2018, 01:11:35 PM
Quote from: Jay2408 on March 01, 2018, 01:08:52 PM
Quote from: zgrdyg on March 01, 2018, 01:01:26 PM
Quote from: ParRus on March 01, 2018, 12:50:12 PM
eHealth First was evaluated by Icobench platform, 4.6 excellent rating!
https://icobench.com/ico/ehealth-first

4.6 is good rating. Also ehealth is the best project until now in health area as far as i see.

This rating actually doesn't say anything and is imo completely useless as it's just the bot rating, not a single expert has given his score.

As far as i know arent there some certain rules about grading the project? Or some standard?

There is already an assessment of one expert. And the score is now 4.3. In general, do not rely on ratings. These estimates are very subjective.
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