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March 02, 2018, 06:15:54 AM
AI can do better than human in repetitive tasks but still, human intervention will be needed for many parts.

You are talking about today and you are more than right.

But we can't predict how improve ai in the future. Can it be better than human in every area?

Today, tomorrow or 2050. I cannot and won't trust AI with all the stuff in the world. It will be doomsday if we let them do everything. They will take over everything then.

Well, at some points it will not be your decision if big companies will use AI over humans then. And then we all are doomed Cheesy

we're not gonna be doomed ffs. true AI doesn't exist and is unlikely it will anytime soon.

Yep it doesn't exist but you can't predict 40 years later. Still, it wouldn't cause problem for us. But our children may be doomed Smiley
It doesnt need an high intelligent AI to be dangerous.
Also with the technology from today it can be very disturbing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CO6M2HsoIA

Technology is disturbingly fearful in the wrong hands. Imagine Ehealth exposing your personal private data, its like giving a tour of your house. What resources you have and don't

If i understand correctly eHealth is only storing your health/medical data. Sure, if someone else managed to get their hands on the data then they could find out what ailments you have and what treatments you have been taking, but its not like they could actually steal your resources or do much with the data.
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March 02, 2018, 06:02:32 AM
Reached 200 pages - very nice Smiley
Congrats on the very active community on this project.

Went much better than expected in the beginning after seeing this longterm project Smiley

yeah, the start was pretty hard, but after they released the huge whitepaper, every scam shouter went silent Smiley in an instant and now the community is growing even more.

This is also in parts because the topic is genuinely interesting. We are talking about how modern medicine could look like in 10 years. Blockchain, AI. At some point it will all come together. 
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March 02, 2018, 03:40:36 AM
Reached 200 pages - very nice Smiley
Congrats on the very active community on this project.

Went much better than expected in the beginning after seeing this longterm project Smiley

yeah, the start was pretty hard, but after they released the huge whitepaper, every scam shouter went silent Smiley in an instant and now the community is growing even more.
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March 02, 2018, 03:14:52 AM
AI can do better than human in repetitive tasks but still, human intervention will be needed for many parts.

You are talking about today and you are more than right.

But we can't predict how improve ai in the future. Can it be better than human in every area?

Today, tomorrow or 2050. I cannot and won't trust AI with all the stuff in the world. It will be doomsday if we let them do everything. They will take over everything then.

Well, at some points it will not be your decision if big companies will use AI over humans then. And then we all are doomed Cheesy

we're not gonna be doomed ffs. true AI doesn't exist and is unlikely it will anytime soon.

Yep it doesn't exist but you can't predict 40 years later. Still, it wouldn't cause problem for us. But our children may be doomed Smiley
It doesnt need an high intelligent AI to be dangerous.
Also with the technology from today it can be very disturbing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CO6M2HsoIA

Technology is disturbingly fearful in the wrong hands. Imagine Ehealth exposing your personal private data, its like giving a tour of your house. What resources you have and don't
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March 02, 2018, 03:11:48 AM
There isn't really a problem with large bonuses for the reason you mentioned, locked up Ether for a long period.

But there's a problem when only big investors can claim a bonus. That just means the rich will always have the upper hand and small investors have to pay a penalty for not being rich.
the big holders, rich, as you mentioned, are rich for a reason, are patient, hold their coins and face the difficult times with them, many small investors want to grow, but do not hold in moments that should support the currency out of fear, or for wanting quick wins

Then rich investors always have an it easier and continue to get benefits while for smaller investors it'll be harder to make a profit. But that's just the way cookie crumbles. You need money to make money.
I've been for a while in the crypto for quick gains, and this led me to believe how impatient we are in some cases, I've seen promising projects like Ehealth becoming a success in the future after my total sale of tokens, and seeing the opportunity pass by a few times

That's a human factor, the whole market is based on it. If everybody would only sell the lowest and buy the highest, there would be no market.
As for the returns, it depends what's a big profit for you. I think all crypto holders are a bit spoilt what comes to returns. They want hundreds of percent, forgetting that if you for example put your money in a bank, you can get just couple of percent interest rate.
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March 02, 2018, 03:07:32 AM
AI can do better than human in repetitive tasks but still, human intervention will be needed for many parts.

You are talking about today and you are more than right.

But we can't predict how improve ai in the future. Can it be better than human in every area?

Today, tomorrow or 2050. I cannot and won't trust AI with all the stuff in the world. It will be doomsday if we let them do everything. They will take over everything then.

Well, at some points it will not be your decision if big companies will use AI over humans then. And then we all are doomed Cheesy

we're not gonna be doomed ffs. true AI doesn't exist and is unlikely it will anytime soon.

Yep it doesn't exist but you can't predict 40 years later. Still, it wouldn't cause problem for us. But our children may be doomed Smiley
It doesnt need an high intelligent AI to be dangerous.
Also with the technology from today it can be very disturbing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CO6M2HsoIA
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March 02, 2018, 03:05:28 AM
AI can do better than human in repetitive tasks but still, human intervention will be needed for many parts.

You are talking about today and you are more than right.

But we can't predict how improve ai in the future. Can it be better than human in every area?

Today, tomorrow or 2050. I cannot and won't trust AI with all the stuff in the world. It will be doomsday if we let them do everything. They will take over everything then.

Well, at some points it will not be your decision if big companies will use AI over humans then. And then we all are doomed Cheesy

we're not gonna be doomed ffs. true AI doesn't exist and is unlikely it will anytime soon.

Yep it doesn't exist but you can't predict 40 years later. Still, it wouldn't cause problem for us. But our children may be doomed Smiley

There are already alot of people thinking about the AI problem. I can recommend the Youtube Channel Computerphile if someone is interested in that.
They already had a lot of discussions and ideas about an emergrency switchoff and how to prevent the AI from preventing you to touch this button or
prevent the AI from circumventing the workflow behind the button.
A full AI, humanlike, wont be just a selflearning program that could spread everywhere. There will be countermeasurements.
Every AI is a neuronetwork of data and thats what the blockchain is building on. To produce an AI that could actually kill us because we are a harm to ourselfs
(and not killing because of shitty programming) - we are as far from that as hyperspace drives.
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March 02, 2018, 02:58:11 AM
AI can do better than human in repetitive tasks but still, human intervention will be needed for many parts.

You are talking about today and you are more than right.

But we can't predict how improve ai in the future. Can it be better than human in every area?

Today, tomorrow or 2050. I cannot and won't trust AI with all the stuff in the world. It will be doomsday if we let them do everything. They will take over everything then.

Well, at some points it will not be your decision if big companies will use AI over humans then. And then we all are doomed Cheesy

we're not gonna be doomed ffs. true AI doesn't exist and is unlikely it will anytime soon.

Yep it doesn't exist but you can't predict 40 years later. Still, it wouldn't cause problem for us. But our children may be doomed Smiley
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Activity: 182
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March 02, 2018, 02:56:10 AM
Reached 200 pages - very nice Smiley
Congrats on the very active community on this project.

Went much better than expected in the beginning after seeing this longterm project Smiley
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March 02, 2018, 02:45:56 AM
eHealth First was evaluated by Icobench platform, 4.6 excellent rating!
https://icobench.com/ico/ehealth-first

4.6 is good rating. Also ehealth is the best project until now in health area as far as i see.

This rating actually doesn't say anything and is imo completely useless as it's just the bot rating, not a single expert has given his score.

As far as i know arent there some certain rules about grading the project? Or some standard?

There is already an assessment of one expert. And the score is now 4.3. In general, do not rely on ratings. These estimates are very subjective.
I agree that we can not totally believe what we see on rankings, there are many interest involve on that.
This is why you have to do your own due diligence before investing in any ico!  Cool

Due diligence isn't that easy in the case of EHF, given the extensive white paper that needs to be read.

Its very big, yes, but you can read only the specific topics in which you are interested. The table of contents is very clear and you can find a specific part very fast. If you are in investor you should read at least the important things and thats not so much.
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March 02, 2018, 02:31:40 AM
AI can do better than human in repetitive tasks but still, human intervention will be needed for many parts.

You are talking about today and you are more than right.

But we can't predict how improve ai in the future. Can it be better than human in every area?

Today, tomorrow or 2050. I cannot and won't trust AI with all the stuff in the world. It will be doomsday if we let them do everything. They will take over everything then.

Well, at some points it will not be your decision if big companies will use AI over humans then. And then we all are doomed Cheesy

we're not gonna be doomed ffs. true AI doesn't exist and is unlikely it will anytime soon.

And what do you think entails "true AI"?

I think he means something like skynet in terminator.

So is the community manager already among us?  Grin

AI that can think like us and adapt and be subjective hasn't been invented and won't be for a long time.

And what makes you so confident that something like this will not happen in the near future? Probably it will not be invented by the eHealth devs, because this is not part of their project but I just can give again the example with Facebooks AI some month back.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4620654/Facebook-accidentally-invents-new-machine-language.html

Sure it is not Skynet, but if something like this by accident can happen, who knows what can happen with much more complexer AI.

AI is still in research and development. IT could work for some specific predictive task. Not a conscious being as in skynet
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March 02, 2018, 02:23:40 AM
AI can do better than human in repetitive tasks but still, human intervention will be needed for many parts.

You are talking about today and you are more than right.

But we can't predict how improve ai in the future. Can it be better than human in every area?

Today, tomorrow or 2050. I cannot and won't trust AI with all the stuff in the world. It will be doomsday if we let them do everything. They will take over everything then.

Well, at some points it will not be your decision if big companies will use AI over humans then. And then we all are doomed Cheesy

we're not gonna be doomed ffs. true AI doesn't exist and is unlikely it will anytime soon.

And what do you think entails "true AI"?

I think he means something like skynet in terminator.

So is the community manager already among us?  Grin

AI that can think like us and adapt and be subjective hasn't been invented and won't be for a long time.

And what makes you so confident that something like this will not happen in the near future? Probably it will not be invented by the eHealth devs, because this is not part of their project but I just can give again the example with Facebooks AI some month back.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4620654/Facebook-accidentally-invents-new-machine-language.html

Sure it is not Skynet, but if something like this by accident can happen, who knows what can happen with much more complexer AI.
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March 02, 2018, 02:05:57 AM


nice picture, i like it. Smiley

those dots and network connecting web in the background is too common in a scam websites to attract newbies. Whenever I see them, it raises my internal scam alert alarm.. I am not saying Ehealth project is a scam.
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March 02, 2018, 01:45:34 AM
yes thats easy, more risk for more bonus. Wink

In this particular case, big bonus can be allowed, considering the long roadmap, this is actually risky, so some reward is good to attract investors for the first serve tokens, so the ones that wat more, could enter the pre-sale.
Giving big bonuses will not attract serious investors that will hold your token for a long time, most of them will just ICO flippers and you will be left with a handful believers.
To invest a large amount of money at this stage of the project is a high risk and the bonus is ok. Also common in other ICOs.
ICO flipper don't like risk and choose ICOs with lower.
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March 02, 2018, 01:17:02 AM
AI can do better than human in repetitive tasks but still, human intervention will be needed for many parts.

You are talking about today and you are more than right.

But we can't predict how improve ai in the future. Can it be better than human in every area?

Today, tomorrow or 2050. I cannot and won't trust AI with all the stuff in the world. It will be doomsday if we let them do everything. They will take over everything then.

Well, at some points it will not be your decision if big companies will use AI over humans then. And then we all are doomed Cheesy

we're not gonna be doomed ffs. true AI doesn't exist and is unlikely it will anytime soon.

And what do you think entails "true AI"?

I think he means something like skynet in terminator.

So is the community manager already among us?  Grin

AI that can think like us and adapt and be subjective hasn't been invented and won't be for a long time.
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March 02, 2018, 01:05:29 AM


nice picture, i like it. Smiley
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March 02, 2018, 01:00:12 AM
AI can do better than human in repetitive tasks but still, human intervention will be needed for many parts.

You are talking about today and you are more than right.

But we can't predict how improve ai in the future. Can it be better than human in every area?

Today, tomorrow or 2050. I cannot and won't trust AI with all the stuff in the world. It will be doomsday if we let them do everything. They will take over everything then.

Well, at some points it will not be your decision if big companies will use AI over humans then. And then we all are doomed Cheesy

we're not gonna be doomed ffs. true AI doesn't exist and is unlikely it will anytime soon.

And what do you think entails "true AI"?

I think he means something like skynet in terminator.

So is the community manager already among us?  Grin
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March 02, 2018, 12:05:12 AM
yes thats easy, more risk for more bonus. Wink

In this particular case, big bonus can be allowed, considering the long roadmap, this is actually risky, so some reward is good to attract investors for the first serve tokens, so the ones that wat more, could enter the pre-sale.
Giving big bonuses will not attract serious investors that will hold your token for a long time, most of them will just ICO flippers and you will be left with a handful believers.
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March 01, 2018, 10:49:16 PM
yes thats easy, more risk for more bonus. Wink

In this particular case, big bonus can be allowed, considering the long roadmap, this is actually risky, so some reward is good to attract investors for the first serve tokens, so the ones that wat more, could enter the pre-sale.
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March 01, 2018, 10:44:57 PM
yes thats easy, more risk for more bonus. Wink
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