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Very promising update!
Can one clarify what a "Swiss User" is? Resident? Citizen? Something else?
Swiss users can take part in the ICO without restriction
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The truth about the company Envion AG  the facts:

1. What you write is what your Director the founder of the company - you are lying!!!

You wrote on your website: Entrepreneur, investor & media professional. Founder & CEO of energy-focused investment holding. Co-financed €300M solar company.

In fact:

Your Director Matthias Woestmann- the journalist you hired 1 month ago to work in  linkedin.com - is simply Executive Director in Envion AG, He's not invetor , he is not affiliated with solar energy!!!

https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthias-woestmann-b87922119/

Why you hide the founders of the company?

You do not answer the question: who are the founders of the company?

I will send all photos from your founders documents - to see all your lies!!!!!

I sent you a document - investors should see that you lie!!! In this document it is evident that the company was organized less than

 a month ago - 5.10.2017 year. Your Director is only a nominal Director and founder of

 hide!!!! And you lie - that he is the founder of the company -- not very nice!!!!!

2. You started the company less than a month ago - 5.10.2017 year. You hired the whole team a month ago!!!! What kind of work long technology your container you say?

 You're lying again!!!

2.You have not answered-where is your mining??? Where exactly is mining farm?

you can't tell because you don't have one! you cheat!!!

You only have one airbrushed onto the container, which you carry for the video and have a video with a smoke blue))))

3. Your website says: in 2015, So explain to me - how is that possible???

 if you opened your super company has just 5.10.2017 year!!!! Once again you are all lying!!!!!!!

4. You are talking about a profit of 161% per year from your equipment - you are cheating investors!!!!

With your container in the holes - can not how to profit by 161%.(considering the fact that you still need to take the profit)

What you want to say that what you showed container holes in them with a few rows of video cards will be able to bring a profit?
 
Yes, it's all a hoax!!!!!!! And you know that's not true!!!! You have no any technology for mining.

5. You do not call the compute capacity of your container : how many PH/s  MH/s?

 I will tell you - in order for investors have not seen this!

7. You have not performed any testing of the container - you don't have anything other than a container with holes from sewer pipes and a couple of fans!!!

Yet you don't answer me to my questions - you will be considered a fraud perpetrated in Switzerland !!!!


My result, You don't have:

1. Mining farm, there is only 1 container with holes. You do not have the technology, but what you showed is just ridiculous!!!!!

 3. You hide especially of the founder, hired journalist Executive Director

4. You hired all the people a month ago - you do not have any commands in mining

5. You started a company in Zug Switzerland - to give the project importance in the eyes of investors!!!

6. You just want to collect money and all!!!!

I work for honesty! And will not allow me to delete the Telegram for the fact that you can't not answer one my question!!!

INVESTORS - BE CAREFUL . THIS COMPANY HAS NOTHING TO MINING!!!
STOP FOOLING PEOPLE WITH YOUR PROJECT !! FOR DEFRAUDING INVESTORS IN SWITZERLAND - MANY YEARS IN PRISON!!!!!

I dont think so, that he is a "noname" noob. First of All I give you guys to understand, everything what they registered its a legal company with 150K Swiss Frank! But the ICO is just for only the "project" that even tells this Mr. Woestmann in them self maded youtube interview Viedeos.

All necessary infos from the public register:

Neueste SHAB-Meldungen: envion AG
SHAB 201/2017 - 17.10.2017
Kategorien: Neueintragung, Änderung bei Personen
Publikationsnummer: 3814143, Handelsregister-Amt Zug (170)
envion AG(envion SA) (envion Ltd.), in Baar, CHE-373.899.812, Zugerstrasse 72, 6340 Baar, Aktiengesellschaft (Neueintragung).

Statutendatum:
05.10.2017.

Zweck:
Erbringung von Infrastrukturdienstleistungen für Kryptowährungen und Blockchain-Anwendungen sowie Entwicklung von Software zum globalen Betrieb von Datenzentren;
vollständige Zweckumschreibung gemäss Statuten.

Aktienkapital:
CHF 150'000.00.

Liberierung Aktienkapital:
CHF 150'000.00.

Aktien:
150'000 Namenaktien zu CHF 1.00. Die Gründungsversammlung hat mit Beschluss vom 05.10.2017 eine genehmigte Kapitalerhöhung gemäss näherer Umschreibung in den Statuten eingeführt.

Publikationsorgan:
SHAB. Die Mitteilungen an die Aktionäre erfolgen per Brief, E-Mail oder Telefax an die im Aktienbuch verzeichneten Adressen. Mit Erklärung vom 05.10.2017 wurde auf die eingeschränkte Revision verzichtet.

Eingetragene Personen:
Wöstmann, Matthias, deutscher Staatsangehöriger, in Berlin (DE), Präsident des Verwaltungsrates, mit Kollektivunterschrift zu zweien;
Stäger, Cyrill Alexander, von Glarus Süd, in Zug, Mitglied des Verwaltungsrates, mit Einzelunterschrift





-What I find weird, that Mr. Cyrill Alexander is connected with the company on the same Building in "Zugerstrasse 72" in the City of Zug, with his company "Trifft Management & Consulting GmbH" the main purpose of this company is to create a founding of new enterprises and doing swiss taxes.

-Many Questions they never really honestly answer, unfortunately to compare with Julian Hosp from TenX they behalfe them self like Scammers.

I would like to go make a claim on the swiss federal Police and the FINMA Office today. Is there also anyone who support this step? If here any swiss ICO Investors, Envion have a lot of misleading Informations, this red flags must be clarified, with politeness meaning!!!

And yes there is a hate from me to your ICO , becauze you not answer still, that you dont accept swiss ICO Investors! (not the answer that you protect me! The  answer, whitch difficulties you must have to not accept swiss citizien but for example german citizien??! The answer shoult be easy! If there is any not qualified Person (like a Beginner) who participate in the ICO, and go against you infront the court, your 150K in the AG (limited) are endangered!! And you lie here many peoples with a children Storry. So stop kidding and be honest, or see end of this Week a Mail to the FINMA and a Display on the swiss Police! I think lets called "RIP DEAL"


New E-Mail, ICO postponed. Advantages for token holders:

► Swiss users can take part in the ICO without restriction
► EVN tokens should be tradable at official and licensed US exchanges
► Banks and other financial institutions can more easily create cooperation models with envion and increase token holders profits
► envion lays the foundation for top-level cooperations
► EVN token on the way to be the best regulated security token so far broader market – higher value potential
► Even better ROI due to Third-Party Operation business
 
Envion is sure that the inconvenience of waiting a few days to invest will outweigh the great positive factors. To make sure our trusted ICO community does not get overshadowed by these big players, we will not involve them in the ICO, but instead have them participate later to follow through on our approach of decentralization by widest possible participation. Also, production and deployment of MMUs from the ICO will come first, before any others.

So now Im statisfaited with this Project! That was the smart step u need to have Investors what "HOLD" your Tokens Wink Rip Deal go under the Shower Im All in here!! (If u let me, becauze of my critical Announcements Im still blocked on Telegram)

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Mobile mining and green mining is the future. I really see this project getting big.

Good luck to devs.
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total token is 150 m
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Hire me! Spanish translator and community manager!
I think Envion will be the best ICO of mining equipment. All the others are not even close to what Envion is going to offer. not even close.
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In terms of security will each investor be provides a 2fa login and their own unique deposiut address?
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Has anyone read the review on Hacked? https://hacked.com/ico-analysis-envion/
Thoughts?
....

Then read again, at least one of your mentioned 3 advisors have a background in crypto (hint: blockchain expert?)... You have to look at the bigger picture, Envion will be a huge company, after ICO they will be present in regular stock market, so it's just smart to have advisors on board that know how the game is played in this field. Same for energy experts, it's all about energy in the end.

I can't understand why you try to find something fishy in every word... this guys are real, public figures.

Yes they could just raise 30 million BUT if they raise their hardcap this would be a huge advantage and a big BOOST against competitors (if there will be any serious in the future). They would be not only a few steps ahead of all but giant leaps. TIME is a huge advantage in industry - time is money! This would be the kickstart for all token holders.



The arrogance... and ignorance

There are A LOT of companies who offer cheap mining facilities and use cheap (renewable power), even next door to you in Europe. MANY. This means you are either trying to sell garbage or you are badly informed, either way doesn't´t look good for you. Secondly so we should just give you are money, because your board members are real people, public. Wauw impressive.
The only thing that is new, that Envion would like to put all this electric devices that generate a lot of heat and sound, inside a metal box. And then you want to move this metal box around the world, maybe to the Sahara? Why not! Good luck with that!  

at the current prices of crypto-assets they should increse the hard-cap because when the blood will hit and the calculation in fiat raised money would not worth that much  Wink

There is no need of increasing the hard cap, already the price of all the coins has increased in the market. So automatically the value of hard cap increase in terms of Fiat. So it is very bad to increase the hard cap.
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I made a video about the investors meeting and explain a bit how the cooling works.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTWFsqRMTt4&feature=youtu.be  Grin
newbie
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I found lately abou this project.
Now it seems very interesting.
However i see so much fud here, and really dont know why.
Also i see different questions, that dont get answered.
I think that the devs must be more active, beacuse the bitcointalk forum is like the gate to the project. So is important to keep it active.
However i had a question myself.
I think i read that a unit cost 150k $. it means that for 1 million you can build at least 6. imagine with 50 millions , 300 units.Imagine if you collect 100millions.
Now with the amount of $ that the project want to collect, there would be hundreds of those units around the world.
Now i know that they are "autonomous", but that number is huge. Any idea how you will handle that.


PS: An advice. You have to deal with the fudders, cause the forum is so annoying to read when you have all them around.


Did you read this? https://hacked.com/ico-analysis-envion/
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Has anyone read the review on Hacked? https://hacked.com/ico-analysis-envion/
Thoughts?
....

Then read again, at least one of your mentioned 3 advisors have a background in crypto (hint: blockchain expert?)... You have to look at the bigger picture, Envion will be a huge company, after ICO they will be present in regular stock market, so it's just smart to have advisors on board that know how the game is played in this field. Same for energy experts, it's all about energy in the end.

I can't understand why you try to find something fishy in every word... this guys are real, public figures.

Yes they could just raise 30 million BUT if they raise their hardcap this would be a huge advantage and a big BOOST against competitors (if there will be any serious in the future). They would be not only a few steps ahead of all but giant leaps. TIME is a huge advantage in industry - time is money! This would be the kickstart for all token holders.



The arrogance... and ignorance

There are A LOT of companies who offer cheap mining facilities and use cheap (renewable power), even next door to you in Europe. MANY. This means you are either trying to sell garbage or you are badly informed, either way doesn't´t look good for you. Secondly so we should just give you are money, because your board members are real people, public. Wauw impressive.
The only thing that is new, that Envion would like to put all this electric devices that generate a lot of heat and sound, inside a metal box. And then you want to move this metal box around the world, maybe to the Sahara? Why not! Good luck with that!  

at the current prices of crypto-assets they should increse the hard-cap because when the blood will hit and the calculation in fiat raised money would not worth that much  Wink
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Then read again, at least one of your mentioned 3 advisors have a background in crypto (hint: blockchain expert?)... You have to look at the bigger picture, Envion will be a huge company, after ICO they will be present in regular stock market, so it's just smart to have advisors on board that know how the game is played in this field. Same for energy experts, it's all about energy in the end.

I can't understand why you try to find something fishy in every word... this guys are real, public figures.

Yes they could just raise 30 million BUT if they raise their hardcap this would be a huge advantage and a big BOOST against competitors (if there will be any serious in the future). They would be not only a few steps ahead of all but giant leaps. TIME is a huge advantage in industry - time is money! This would be the kickstart for all token holders.


The arrogance... and ignorance

There are A LOT of companies who offer cheap mining facilities and use cheap (renewable power), even next door to you in Europe. MANY. This means you are either trying to sell garbage or you are badly informed, either way doesn't´t look good for you. Secondly so we should just give you are money, because your board members are real people, public. Wauw impressive.
The only thing that is new, that Envion would like to put all this electric devices that generate a lot of heat and sound, inside a metal box. And then you want to move this metal box around the world, maybe to the Sahara? Why not! Good luck with that!  
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It would be really crazy if this whole ICO was some kind of setup for a documentary on how easy it is to raise millions with some effort  Shocked But just kiddin´

no seriously,

Guys watch out with this one! "Darkness inside I sense" Smiley to quote Yoda.

Some very good questions here which I am not quoting, because there are too many of them. But especially about the technical side, are kept unanswered.

All this Envion puppet is saying: " read the white paper" -> checked, doesn't´t hold the answers to the questions posed by other people here
                                                "we have GERMAN engineers" -> i am in Germany, so with respect for my friends here, no need to take use of the brand Made in        
                                                  Germany, there are also bad engineers here  

and some newbie profiles (acknowledged I am one too :p ) saying: ooh but they have this fine German former POLITICIAN. I tell you, Ripple has one to,  Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg, he was kicked out of politics because he was a fraud and cheated with his university degree  Grin. So that doesn't mean anything

In looking in of this people and project, it smells fishy. Little information, and then they claim "we work stealthy"

CONS for me: 1. technical aspect is not explained clearly. Really guys, they are talking about putting miners in a metal container! (have you ever been inside one? ) For people not familiar, miners get HOT. People go to mine in Scandinavia, Iceland and Siberia because of temperature. BUT if we believe that somehow they have solved this problem, then comes point 2.
2. so how is this gonna work went you put your metal boxes next to solar panels, I presume this will be somewhere where there is a lot of sun (again hot outside, hot inside).
3. the limitations or exclusion  citizens of countries that can sue their asses.

PROs: mobile mining facility has something charming about it. But I doubt this guys have the solution.

Conclusion: do not get greedy to much, no FOMO, keep cool and THINK logical! If you like cheap power and investing in miner facilities there are other solutions, google it.

P.S to the guy who is posting like a maniac and trolling Envion, you are now contraproductive, going like this destroys your credibility and people don´t take some of your legitimate concerns seriously. So please calm down drink a pepsi


Hehe.. good arguments so far. Maybe Envion will answer some of the pointed questions before the big day tomorrow.

By the way, of course politicians are no angels - specially within these days, but at least Mr. Pflueger is well known and a public person. Of course I don’t know, if has really proofed the concept before he joint the advisory board, but I think so.

But to invest wisely and not everything is a good hint in any case.
newbie
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It would be really crazy if this whole ICO was some kind of setup for a documentary on how easy it is to raise millions with some effort  Shocked But just kiddin´

no seriously,

Guys watch out with this one! "Darkness inside I sense" Smiley to quote Yoda.

Some very good questions here which I am not quoting, because there are too many of them. But especially about the technical side, are kept unanswered.

All this Envion puppet is saying: " read the white paper" -> checked, doesn't´t hold the answers to the questions posed by other people here
                                                "we have GERMAN engineers" -> i am in Germany, so with respect for my friends here, no need to take use of the brand Made in        
                                                  Germany, there are also bad engineers here  

and some newbie profiles (acknowledged I am one too :p ) saying: ooh but they have this fine German former POLITICIAN. I tell you, Ripple has one to,  Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg, he was kicked out of politics because he was a fraud and cheated with his university degree  Grin. So that doesn't mean anything

In looking in of this people and project, it smells fishy. Little information, and then they claim "we work stealthy"

CONS for me: 1. technical aspect is not explained clearly. Really guys, they are talking about putting miners in a metal container! (have you ever been inside one? ) For people not familiar, miners get HOT. People go to mine in Scandinavia, Iceland and Siberia because of temperature. BUT if we believe that somehow they have solved this problem, then comes point 2.
2. so how is this gonna work went you put your metal boxes next to solar panels, I presume this will be somewhere where there is a lot of sun (again hot outside, hot inside).
3. the limitations or exclusion of citizens of countries that can sue their asses.

PROs: mobile mining facility has something charming about it. But I doubt this guys have the solution.

Conclusion: do not get greedy to much, no FOMO, keep cool and THINK logical! If you like cheap power and investing in miner facilities there are other solutions, google it.

P.S to the guy who is posting like a maniac and trolling Envion, you are now contraproductive, going like this destroys your credibility and people don´t take some of your legitimate concerns seriously. So please calm down drink a pepsi
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I think this is a good project and very profitable, I read all the information and very interested in ICO in this project, I also think this big project, can not wait to invest in ICO, I hope this project has a good future
newbie
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is it true that as a US citizen I am not allowed to purchase tokens?

Can someone pleas clarify this?

I guess you have to be an US investor with above 200k yearly income or 1 mio cash.

I had the same demand the other way around, if a US startup asked me to become one of their advisors.

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"Highest ROI crypto infrastructure"
One thing that excites me about this project is the fact that it is mobile. Mobile computing is taking over desktop bringing mining to mobile is a step in the right direction. Great project btw

What really excit me the idee of this guys, profit sharing, mining that will be successfull and attracting big investors, 80% of the last ICO were a minus deal,i think this one will be successfull
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One thing that excites me about this project is the fact that it is mobile. Mobile computing is taking over desktop bringing mining to mobile is a step in the right direction. Great project btw
newbie
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is it true that as a US citizen I am not allowed to purchase tokens?

Can someone pleas clarify this?
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do you have a reward for attracted investments ?
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