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I felt these are really legit questions, instead of repeating them I'll quote it at +1.

I have forwarded these question to the telegram group. It is a bit redundant but I will offer you all answers as soon as possible.
Laurent will answer them.

It's been several days since I asked my questions and no answer or any sign of Envion on this board. Not a good sign. They seem to dodge the difficult questions.

Edit: Questions have since been answered.
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2) german residents are just allowed to invest if their invest exceeds > 200.000

Sidenode: they are working night and day on a solution, that we germans can participate with any invest. One approach is having your main residence outside germany. The other approach is currently worked on: A prospectus. Prospectus are considered to inform investors about risks and the product itself. This is also the legitimacy for the BaFin.

so if Im german and my residence is in Germany there is no way I can invest 2000-5000 €? What the actual f.... I am really dissapointed now. Is there any contract I can sign with Envion that I have read all the investment risks (which I really did) and still invest?
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Awesome!

Laurent will welcome you. He can answer every question.
Study the whitepaper and ask whatever you want.

https://t.me/Envion

Summing up some FAQ:

- ROI is always based on the initial 1$ per Token. No matter how far the tokens dropping when hitting exchanges (they won't) you will receive the same ROI
- Tokens considered to be the first real security. BaFin and SEC compliant.
- Neither Tokens will give you shares of the company nor you possess parts of the hardware.
- The tokens will give the right to get profits from the mining. Based on how much tokens you are holding envion will pay you dividends (profit of the mining)
- These dividends will be paid in ETH. So you basically give Envion your ETH public wallet address and ENVION will pay dividends automatically through a smart contract
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That's the beauty of this project. Even if they would have 50% hash power of the network Envion is a company like Bitmain which just has its own interest.
At best we have a vast amount of EVN Tokenholders, which all get a little share of the profits. So at the end achieved even a better decentralization than before.


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Also, from what I read, I understand that you intend to register on a regular exchange. When do plan for this, which exchange, and will token holders get any perks, i.e. early invitation for further investment. 


hitbtc will be the first one. In my opinion it could be possible we will be able to buy real stocks of envion on the conservative stock market. I would like to invite you to the telegram group. There is always a community manager. This is a good question. As I said, I could imagine this (perks - early invitation to further investment).

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The reason I'm asking, is that it appears from your WP that MMUs are just the first step in an ambition for creating a world leading tech company which is pretty interesting to be a part of from the start...

I am not quite sure if you are referring to the so called TPO (Third-party operations), where Envion sells its MMUs to companies directly and providing them their services (could be software[updates], maintainance, dashboard, knowledge in general)


Thanks for the welcome, invitation to telegram an last but not least your good answers. Still not sure I get all, but off to bed now and will do more research tomorrow including telegram!
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hello, i got two questions, 1. are the discount stages caped or could all tokens be sold on the first day? 2. are german residents only allowed to invest up to 200k or only more than 200k? thanks for answering

Please join us in the telegram channel. You can ask questions as much as you want.

1) Not caped. It could be sold out at the first day (it most likely will happen, if you ask me)
2) german residents are just allowed to invest if their invest exceeds > 200.000

Sidenode: they are working night and day on a solution, that we germans can participate with any invest. One approach is having your main residence outside germany. The other approach is currently worked on: A prospectus. Prospectus are considered to inform investors about risks and the product itself. This is also the legitimacy for the BaFin.
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Hi!
If this thing is only half as good as you're saying, it's still pretty good!  Smiley

I have a couple of questions, and as you probably understand from them, this blockchain/CC-thing is sort of a new world to me (as is the financial, so with any sense I'd keep away. However...):

If envion goes as well as you intend, and you constantly increase your MMU's with approx 25% each year and continue to do so for years and years. Is there any risk that at some point you may actually end up controlling more than 50% of the blockchain (i.e. BTC)?

Also, from what I read, I understand that you intend to register on a regular exchange. When do plan for this, which exchange, and will token holders get any perks, i.e. early invitation for further investment. The reason I'm asking, is that it appears from your WP that MMUs are just the first step in an ambition for creating a world leading tech company which is pretty interesting to be a part of from the start...

Thanks for the good work and the seriousness you give all of our questions.

Good luck!

Welcome!

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If envion goes as well as you intend, and you constantly increase your MMU's with approx 25% each year and continue to do so for years and years. Is there any risk that at some point you may actually end up controlling more than 50% of the blockchain (i.e. BTC)?

That's the beauty of this project. Even if they would have 50% hash power of the network Envion is a company like Bitmain which just has its own interest.
At best we have a vast amount of EVN Tokenholders, which all get a little share of the profits. So at the end achieved even a better decentralization than before.


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Also, from what I read, I understand that you intend to register on a regular exchange. When do plan for this, which exchange, and will token holders get any perks, i.e. early invitation for further investment. 


hitbtc will be the first one. In my opinion it could be possible we will be able to buy real stocks of envion on the conservative stock market. I would like to invite you to the telegram group. There is always a community manager. This is a good question. As I said, I could imagine this (perks - early invitation to further investment).

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The reason I'm asking, is that it appears from your WP that MMUs are just the first step in an ambition for creating a world leading tech company which is pretty interesting to be a part of from the start...

I am not quite sure if you are referring to the so called TPO (Third-party operations), where Envion sells its MMUs to companies directly and providing them their services (could be software[updates], maintainance, dashboard, knowledge in general)
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hello, i got two questions, 1. are the discount stages caped or could all tokens be sold on the first day? 2. are german residents only allowed to invest up to 200k or only more than 200k? thanks for answering
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Hi!
If this thing is only half as good as you're saying, it's still pretty good!  Smiley

I have a couple of questions, and as you probably understand from them, this blockchain/CC-thing is sort of a new world to me (as is the financial, so with any sense I'd keep away. However...):

If envion goes as well as you intend, and you constantly increase your MMU's with approx 25% each year and continue to do so for years and years. Is there any risk that at some point you may actually end up controlling more than 50% of the blockchain (i.e. BTC)?

Also, from what I read, I understand that you intend to register on a regular exchange. When do plan for this, which exchange, and will token holders get any perks, i.e. early invitation for further investment. The reason I'm asking, is that it appears from your WP that MMUs are just the first step in an ambition for creating a world leading tech company which is pretty interesting to be a part of from the start...

Thanks for the good work and the seriousness you give all of our questions.

Good luck!
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With the move back of the ICO, I'm really wondering if I should actually invest in this.

They havn't offered and actual working proof of there current units, with this I'm not really sure.

Envion, why don't you show proof to the working of the demo/test units?

Cheers


This shouldn't raise concerns. Sometimes postponing something isn't a bad sign.
A very close relative of me were at the envion investor meetup in Berlin, where envion showcased the MMU. A real company with real people meeting real investors.
The event was executed very professional. For me it's crystal clear. This company is awesome.

With the move back of the ICO, I'm really wondering if I should actually invest in this.

They havn't offered and actual working proof of there current units, with this I'm not really sure.

Envion, why don't you show proof to the working of the demo/test units?

Cheers

Bitfury are producing bitcoin MMUs for years Smiley. The only problem - they are for big investors. Envion is trying to reinvent the hot water ( small players will buy everything with bitcoin tag attached )

You are comparing quite different approaches to be honest. One understands itself more like a HW and SW producer providing infrastructure and software. The other trying to actively support the decentralization supplied by green energy.
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I felt these are really legit questions, instead of repeating them I'll quote it at +1.

I have forwarded these question to the telegram group. It is a bit redundant but I will offer you all answers as soon as possible.
Laurent will answer them.

Let us know the answers
newbie
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With the move back of the ICO, I'm really wondering if I should actually invest in this.

They havn't offered and actual working proof of there current units, with this I'm not really sure.

Envion, why don't you show proof to the working of the demo/test units?

Cheers

Bitfury are producing bitcoin MMUs for years Smiley. The only problem - they are for big investors. Envion is trying to reinvent the hot water ( small players will buy everything with bitcoin tag attached )
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With the move back of the ICO, I'm really wondering if I should actually invest in this.

They havn't offered and actual working proof of there current units, with this I'm not really sure.

Envion, why don't you show proof to the working of the demo/test units?

Cheers
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Highest ROI crypto infrastructure
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I felt these are really legit questions, instead of repeating them I'll quote it at +1.

I have forwarded these question to the telegram group. It is a bit redundant but I will offer you all answers as soon as possible.
Laurent will answer them.
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I have some questions about this project.

1) Your MMU has a patented airflow design. Looking over the people on your team, I cannot figure out who has the technical expertise to come up with this. Did you license this IP from a third-party? If you developed it in-house, can you answer who on your has the expertise to come up with this design?

2) Was Jonathan Koch the one who programmed the Envion OS?

3) Are you manufacturing the MMUs yourself or do you have a contract with a third party? If you cannot disclose the identity of the third party, can you notarize that this infrastructure is in place and terms are already agreed?

4) Is your ASIC and GPU supply chain secured with terms already agreed? If so, can you release a notarized statement to that effect?

5) It seems like you have been working on this project for a long time, yet your corporate registry shows that you came into existence in October. Can you explain this discrepancy?

6) Who is Cyrill Alexander Stäger and why is he not listed on your team page?

7) If your prototype is really functional, why are you unable to provide realtime mining statistics on your dashboard?

I felt these are really legit questions, instead of repeating them I'll quote it at +1.

I like the initiative whereby the team are committing resources to develop their own Envion OS, but how reliable is it? How many members are involved for ongoing development and testing cycle?

I'll also like to know the following:
  • For the subsequent harvests, how will the 75% profit be divide among EVN token holder? Based on the token share %? Or flat rate base on investment sum?
  • How will we know if the ICO proceedings are prioritized on MMU production and deployment? At the same time 3rd party investment are coming in to buy their own dedicated MMU unit, the available production might have been prioritized for them mid-way.
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Why aren't they fixing a date for kyc?? I mean since it's necessary to buy the tokens only makes sense getting it done at the earliest

Did they announce who will do kyc for them yet?
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I have looked on the airflow design and specs.
Statement as engineer: Bullshit.

Sorry, this will only work continuously where the climate conditions are perfect.

The design as shown is a not good for airflow and for this capacity specs.

This design is only good to prevent come rainwater inside the container.

The rest: self-sucking heating container.

To have a team with only designers, business economist and No techies on board is always fail...

Good luck guys.

@envion - I'd like to hear your response to this, which is also linked to my questions about your team a few posts up. There seems to be a lot of technical innovation proclaimed, but your team is quite scarce of technical people.
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I have looked on the airflow design and specs.
Statement as engineer: Bullshit.

Sorry, this will only work continuously where the climate conditions are perfect.

The design as shown is a not good for airflow and for this capacity specs.

This design is only good to prevent come rainwater inside the container.

The rest: self-sucking heating container.

To have a team with only designers, business economist and No techies on board is always fail...

Good luck guys.
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Hire me! Spanish translator and community manager!
Envion is legit, no doubt about it. He has answered all the questions a zillion of times in telegram and now here. So it's all about doing your own diligence now, if you don't want to invest in the most promising mining ico then don't do it.
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Hello Envion, I would like to hear your view on your relative position in the mining-market.

Marc van der Chijs, founder of First Block Capital, said in an interview they are planning a huge rollout of mining units.
They are a big player and get their funding from institutional investors only.
They aim to raise $500 million over the next few weeks.

How would a big player like this influence your position in the (future) mining market?

See also http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20171204005288/en/
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Why aren't they fixing a date for kyc?? I mean since it's necessary to buy the tokens only makes sense getting it done at the earliest
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