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Topic: [ANN][INCNT] Incent Loyalty | Waves Token | Traded on Bittrex - page 158. (Read 491316 times)

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Let's gloss over the backdrop, which is that Nxt is in a state of flux at the moment ahead of Ardor, meaning that the AE and assets are all in limbo with very little activity or volumes.

I've worked with a lot of people in crypto over the last 3 years, and there are very few I'd say have Sasha's integrity. The idea that he might simply drop Waves and move on to something else is just a non-issue as far as I'm concerned.


But he has done just this in the past Cassius, I showed evidence of one such example, he has abandoned CryptoIndex without any public explanation in nearly 9 months

- CryptoIndex website - dead
- CryptoIndex trading bots - dead
- ANN thread abandoned with no explanation from Sasha

This is what I base my warning to Incent on - not baseless 'he's a sammer' accusation - why don't you speak to the example I raised, CryptoIndex?

Readers can easily verify a similar state of affairs for CryptoCard asset - abandoned, dead, no communication from Sasha.

A good indicator of future behaviour is past behaviour, but you think Sasha abandoning WAVES is a 'non-issue'. Very odd stance imo

If you can show evidence that Sasha is still honouring his commitments to past investors in his many Coinomat businesses and assets then please show me.  I have given ONE example of a clear cut case to back up my warning to Incent.

I can't find any evidence Sasha intends to incorporate any of his past assets/businesses into WAVES.
hero member
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I'd suggest people to be carefull and avoid the piedestal talks on Sasha as if he was that great guy you are depicting as perfect, that did not do anything bad at all, some people will have this "need" to spread the facts that show the opposed side such as me.
You do not want this to happen. I support incent, but don't start to tell me bullshit as if I did not follow everything about Waves, everyday, since before his Ico.
Nobody is perfect, neither Sasha. We will have to agree to disagree.
sr. member
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I'd suggest people to be carefull and avoid the piedestal talks on Sasha as if he was that great guy you are depicting as perfect, that did not do anything bad at all, some people will have this "need" to spread the facts that show the opposed side such as me.
You do not want this to happen. I support incent, but don't start to tell me bullshit as if I did not follow everything about Waves, everyday, since before his Ico.
hero member
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I have been in crypto for more than 2.5 years and know Sasha for around 2 years. I can reassure you that he is top-notch in terms of integrity, credibility and passion for his projects. That's one of the reasons he offered asset swaps during Waves ICO - to satisfy the needs of his old asset holders. The assets not eligible for the swaps will be transferred to Waves once all is in place.

On another node, everything is falling perfectly in place for Incent! We have green light to get started as soon as the ICO is over, read more here > https://techannouncer.com/green-light-incent-waves-launches-full-node/

This is great news!

These are momentous times for Incent. How cool to be here right from the start. Smiley
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I have been in crypto for more than 2.5 years and know Sasha for around 2 years. I can reassure you that he is top-notch in terms of integrity, credibility and passion for his projects. That's one of the reasons he offered asset swaps during Waves ICO - to satisfy the needs of his old asset holders. The assets not eligible for the swaps will be transferred to Waves once all is in place.

On another node, everything is falling perfectly in place for Incent! We have green light to get started as soon as the ICO is over, read more here > https://techannouncer.com/green-light-incent-waves-launches-full-node/

I can't agree more with you. I'm sure that he'll do anything in his power to make waves and other backed projects such as incent succeed.
sr. member
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I have been in crypto for more than 2.5 years and know Sasha for around 2 years. I can reassure you that he is top-notch in terms of integrity, credibility and passion for his projects. That's one of the reasons he offered asset swaps during Waves ICO - to satisfy the needs of his old asset holders. The assets not eligible for the swaps will be transferred to Waves once all is in place.

On another node, everything is falling perfectly in place for Incent! We have green light to get started as soon as the ICO is over, read more here > https://techannouncer.com/green-light-incent-waves-launches-full-node/

Absolutely ™.
hero member
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Every Retweet is well-appreciated, quite some important news for us  Smiley

https://twitter.com/KarlKarlsson_/status/799286703500378113

Also, please join our Slack if you haven't done so yet. We would love to have a chat with you!

https://incentinvites.herokuapp.com/

Retweet Wink
hero member
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Every Retweet is well-appreciated, quite some important news for us  Smiley

https://twitter.com/KarlKarlsson_/status/799286703500378113

Also, please join our Slack if you haven't done so yet. We would love to have a chat with you!

https://incentinvites.herokuapp.com/
hero member
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I have been in crypto for more than 2.5 years and know Sasha for around 2 years. I can reassure you that he is top-notch in terms of integrity, credibility and passion for his projects. That's one of the reasons he offered asset swaps during Waves ICO - to satisfy the needs of his old asset holders. The assets not eligible for the swaps will be transferred to Waves once all is in place.

On another node, everything is falling perfectly in place for Incent! We have green light to get started as soon as the ICO is over, read more here > https://techannouncer.com/green-light-incent-waves-launches-full-node/
legendary
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Thanks for the reply Cassius, but what communication from Sasha gives you this confidence? If it exists, where is it? Wouldn't the obvious place to post such assurances about an asset like CryptoIndex be on the ANN thread and the website? Neither has any communication explaining the situation, nothing from Sasha for many months, (website looks dead).

Your loyalty to Sasha is admirable up to a point, but you can't polish a turd Cassius, and if you try you'll just get shit all over Incent. Sasha has behaved terribly to ordinary investors, maybe insiders get more information, but I've seen practically nothing. Some mention of Coinomat business being sold, or turned into a 'gateway', but after so many months the lack of detail is pathetic. Other assets like CryptoCard & CryptoIndex look dead completely.

If someone can show public statements confirming the status of these coinomat assets I'll be very relieved.

Sasha's last post about CryptoIndex  from March 1st - nothing in the last 7 months

I see no action around your index, despite alts are on the run.
You mentioned large investors once. Is there any promo at least?
Current NXT situation holds me back a little
So I solve this thing first
After the dust settles (which will happen quite soon) I'll get down to index in a really big way.
And yes there's promotion now.

Let's gloss over the backdrop, which is that Nxt is in a state of flux at the moment ahead of Ardor, meaning that the AE and assets are all in limbo with very little activity or volumes.

I've worked with a lot of people in crypto over the last 3 years, and there are very few I'd say have Sasha's integrity. The idea that he might simply drop Waves and move on to something else is just a non-issue as far as I'm concerned.
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No more incent from theviral exchange?
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You are throwing out accusation without presenting any factual evidence to back them up. In the real world you could be sued for defamation.

For your information:
1. There are weekly updates about the development of the Waves project: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYDQN4Fo4rGnOZ22L5plNIw/videos
2. Coinomat, CryptoCard, CryptoIndex etc. are being integrated into the Waves Platform
3. There are weekly news on http://coremedia.info/index.php/waves-news

Just to name a few resources.

So @NASdaq you should be ashamed for yourself and apologize for posting such stupid remarks.

How concerned are the Incent organisers (if at all) in the number of projects abandoned by Sasha so far? Coinomat, CryptoCard, CryptoIndex etc etc ... all look to be dead with very little communication on what's going on with them. Other coinomat projects like NEXT & NEXTBOND were basically orphaned and left to guys like Cassius to clean up the mess and apologise for the appalling behaviour and neglect of Sasha.

WAVES might be looking good today, but what happens if Sasha & Co. move on to greener pastures and abandon WAVES like they have with so many past assets and businesses? Do you have a plan B? I see this as a serious risk to Incent. Why not consider moving to another platform, maybe SuperNET.

This might not seem very likely to some here (i.e WAVES being abandoned for another project), but those who followed Sasha on nxtforum.or would be well aware of how things have gone for investors and users of these past projects. Aren't you guys concerned at Sasha's neglect of his past investors and users?

First time I'm hearing of this... proof?

Everyone needs to investigate for themselves to get the full picture , but lets take CryptoIndex as an example of Sasha's behaviour.

This is the asset on NXT - https://www.mynxt.info/asset/13634675574519917918
Here is the nxtforum.org thread - https://nxtforum.org/cryptoasset-fund-projects/(pre-ann)-coinoindex-com-cryptocurrencies-industial-average/
Here is the website - http://cryptoindex.io/ (from asset description) or http://coinoindex.com/ (from ANN thread)

It'll take you a few minutes to see this asset is dead, and the ANN thread offers no explanation, just abandoned. A little more investigation reveals the same or similar for the other assets ... DEAD.

Sasha raised 100's of thousands from a number of Coinomat based assets, then abandoned them in favour of WAVES which raised 10's of millions. What's to say he doesn't abandon WAVES for a project in the 100's of millions. If this idea seems ridiculous (Sasha abandoning WAVES for something bigger/better), then try and explain why a promising project like Incent seems perfectly content to work with Sasha given his past behaviour? Either Incent guys don't realise all these past projects have been abandoned (which would be diabolical negligence in itself), or they do know, but are using WAVES anyway. The Crypto community obviously tolerates a lot more shonky behaviour.

Maybe others know what's going on with all Sasha's past coinomat based assets and businesses, (if so please share), but on the surface it looks like a collective delusion where everyone is happy to ignore reality. A 30M USD was surely impressive, but Sasha's resume isn't.

I strongly disagree with this analysis too.
Anyone familiar with the Nxt ecosystem and economy will be aware of the factors in play here, and anyone who has worked with Sasha will know that he is not someone motivated simply by money.
These projects will be moved over to Waves in due course.

Thanks for the reply Cassius, but what communication from Sasha gives you this confidence? If it exists, where is it? Wouldn't the obvious place to post such assurances about an asset like CryptoIndex be on the ANN thread and the website? Neither has any communication explaining the situation, nothing from Sasha for many months, (website looks dead).

Your loyalty to Sasha is admirable up to a point, but you can't polish a turd Cassius, and if you try you'll just get shit all over Incent. Sasha has behaved terribly to ordinary investors, maybe insiders get more information, but I've seen practically nothing. Some mention of Coinomat business being sold, or turned into a 'gateway', but after so many months the lack of detail is pathetic. Other assets like CryptoCard & CryptoIndex look dead completely.

If someone can show public statements confirming the status of these coinomat assets I'll be very relieved.

Sasha's last post about CryptoIndex  from March 1st - nothing in the last 7 months

I see no action around your index, despite alts are on the run.
You mentioned large investors once. Is there any promo at least?
Current NXT situation holds me back a little
So I solve this thing first
After the dust settles (which will happen quite soon) I'll get down to index in a really big way.
And yes there's promotion now.
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Your own digital self
ICOrating team welcomes crypto community!

We present our mini report on the investment attractiveness of Incent project (https://www.incentloyalty.com/).

Incent is both a cryptographic token and a loyalty eco-system, which allows merchant clients to incentivise custom by rewarding their customers, at the point of transaction, which has the unique property of being convertible on the Waves blockchain.
 
ICOrating team (http://icorating.com) conducted a express analysis of the project  (business model, technical background, team, marketing) and gave it a Risky rating. Read more in the report.

Links:  http://icorating.com/project/4
_______________
Sincerely,
ICOrating Team

Golos   Rating score:STABLE

Incent Rating score:RISKY

 I have no further questions.
sr. member
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How concerned are the Incent organisers (if at all) in the number of projects abandoned by Sasha so far? Coinomat, CryptoCard, CryptoIndex etc etc ... all look to be dead with very little communication on what's going on with them. Other coinomat projects like NEXT & NEXTBOND were basically orphaned and left to guys like Cassius to clean up the mess and apologise for the appalling behaviour and neglect of Sasha.

WAVES might be looking good today, but what happens if Sasha & Co. move on to greener pastures and abandon WAVES like they have with so many past assets and businesses? Do you have a plan B? I see this as a serious risk to Incent. Why not consider moving to another platform, maybe SuperNET.

This might not seem very likely to some here (i.e WAVES being abandoned for another project), but those who followed Sasha on nxtforum.or would be well aware of how things have gone for investors and users of these past projects. Aren't you guys concerned at Sasha's neglect of his past investors and users?

First time I'm hearing of this... proof?

Everyone needs to investigate for themselves to get the full picture , but lets take CryptoIndex as an example of Sasha's behaviour.

This is the asset on NXT - https://www.mynxt.info/asset/13634675574519917918
Here is the nxtforum.org thread - https://nxtforum.org/cryptoasset-fund-projects/(pre-ann)-coinoindex-com-cryptocurrencies-industial-average/
Here is the website - http://cryptoindex.io/ (from asset description) or http://coinoindex.com/ (from ANN thread)

It'll take you a few minutes to see this asset is dead, and the ANN thread offers no explanation, just abandoned. A little more investigation reveals the same or similar for the other assets ... DEAD.

Sasha raised 100's of thousands from a number of Coinomat based assets, then abandoned them in favour of WAVES which raised 10's of millions. What's to say he doesn't abandon WAVES for a project in the 100's of millions. If this idea seems ridiculous (Sasha abandoning WAVES for something bigger/better), then try and explain why a promising project like Incent seems perfectly content to work with Sasha given his past behaviour? Either Incent guys don't realise all these past projects have been abandoned (which would be diabolical negligence in itself), or they do know, but are using WAVES anyway. The Crypto community obviously tolerates a lot more shonky behaviour.

Maybe others know what's going on with all Sasha's past coinomat based assets and businesses, (if so please share), but on the surface it looks like a collective delusion where everyone is happy to ignore reality. A 30M USD was surely impressive, but Sasha's resume isn't.

I strongly disagree with this analysis too.
Anyone familiar with the Nxt ecosystem and economy will be aware of the factors in play here, and anyone who has worked with Sasha will know that he is not someone motivated simply by money.
These projects will be moved over to Waves in due course.

Thanks for the reply Cassius, but what communication from Sasha gives you this confidence? If it exists, where is it? Wouldn't the obvious place to post such assurances about an asset like CryptoIndex be on the ANN thread and the website? Neither has any communication explaining the situation, nothing from Sasha for many months, (website looks dead).

Your loyalty to Sasha is admirable up to a point, but you can't polish a turd Cassius, and if you try you'll just get shit all over Incent. Sasha has behaved terribly to ordinary investors, maybe insiders get more information, but I've seen practically nothing. Some mention of Coinomat business being sold, or turned into a 'gateway', but after so many months the lack of detail is pathetic. Other assets like CryptoCard & CryptoIndex look dead completely.

If someone can show public statements confirming the status of these coinomat assets I'll be very relieved.

Sasha's last post about CryptoIndex  from March 1st - nothing in the last 7 months

I see no action around your index, despite alts are on the run.
You mentioned large investors once. Is there any promo at least?
Current NXT situation holds me back a little
So I solve this thing first
After the dust settles (which will happen quite soon) I'll get down to index in a really big way.
And yes there's promotion now.
legendary
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How concerned are the Incent organisers (if at all) in the number of projects abandoned by Sasha so far? Coinomat, CryptoCard, CryptoIndex etc etc ... all look to be dead with very little communication on what's going on with them. Other coinomat projects like NEXT & NEXTBOND were basically orphaned and left to guys like Cassius to clean up the mess and apologise for the appalling behaviour and neglect of Sasha.

WAVES might be looking good today, but what happens if Sasha & Co. move on to greener pastures and abandon WAVES like they have with so many past assets and businesses? Do you have a plan B? I see this as a serious risk to Incent. Why not consider moving to another platform, maybe SuperNET.

This might not seem very likely to some here (i.e WAVES being abandoned for another project), but those who followed Sasha on nxtforum.or would be well aware of how things have gone for investors and users of these past projects. Aren't you guys concerned at Sasha's neglect of his past investors and users?

First time I'm hearing of this... proof?

Everyone needs to investigate for themselves to get the full picture , but lets take CryptoIndex as an example of Sasha's behaviour.

This is the asset on NXT - https://www.mynxt.info/asset/13634675574519917918
Here is the nxtforum.org thread - https://nxtforum.org/cryptoasset-fund-projects/(pre-ann)-coinoindex-com-cryptocurrencies-industial-average/
Here is the website - http://cryptoindex.io/ (from asset description) or http://coinoindex.com/ (from ANN thread)

It'll take you a few minutes to see this asset is dead, and the ANN thread offers no explanation, just abandoned. A little more investigation reveals the same or similar for the other assets ... DEAD.

Sasha raised 100's of thousands from a number of Coinomat based assets, then abandoned them in favour of WAVES which raised 10's of millions. What's to say he doesn't abandon WAVES for a project in the 100's of millions. If this idea seems ridiculous (Sasha abandoning WAVES for something bigger/better), then try and explain why a promising project like Incent seems perfectly content to work with Sasha given his past behaviour? Either Incent guys don't realise all these past projects have been abandoned (which would be diabolical negligence in itself), or they do know, but are using WAVES anyway. The Crypto community obviously tolerates a lot more shonky behaviour.

Maybe others know what's going on with all Sasha's past coinomat based assets and businesses, (if so please share), but on the surface it looks like a collective delusion where everyone is happy to ignore reality. A 30M USD was surely impressive, but Sasha's resume isn't.

I strongly disagree with this analysis too.
Anyone familiar with the Nxt ecosystem and economy will be aware of the factors in play here, and anyone who has worked with Sasha will know that he is not someone motivated simply by money.
These projects will be moved over to Waves in due course.
legendary
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Hi, RW.

Thank you for the offer, but if you suggest that we rewrite our report and send it to you for the personal review - unfortunately we don’t work like that. However, we’re totally open to any additional information, that you think could improve our report.

And thank you for the advice - we’ll take it into account.

A degree of accuracy would improve your report considerably, as would some indication that you had done basic and independent research to understand the concept or current state of business development - rather than publishing inaccurate material and then expecting the project's founders to take the time and effort to compensate for your lack of competence.
sr. member
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How concerned are the Incent organisers (if at all) in the number of projects abandoned by Sasha so far? Coinomat, CryptoCard, CryptoIndex etc etc ... all look to be dead with very little communication on what's going on with them. Other coinomat projects like NEXT & NEXTBOND were basically orphaned and left to guys like Cassius to clean up the mess and apologise for the appalling behaviour and neglect of Sasha.

WAVES might be looking good today, but what happens if Sasha & Co. move on to greener pastures and abandon WAVES like they have with so many past assets and businesses? Do you have a plan B? I see this as a serious risk to Incent. Why not consider moving to another platform, maybe SuperNET.

This might not seem very likely to some here (i.e WAVES being abandoned for another project), but those who followed Sasha on nxtforum.or would be well aware of how things have gone for investors and users of these past projects. Aren't you guys concerned at Sasha's neglect of his past investors and users?

First time I'm hearing of this... proof?

Everyone needs to investigate for themselves to get the full picture , but lets take CryptoIndex as an example of Sasha's behaviour.

This is the asset on NXT - https://www.mynxt.info/asset/13634675574519917918
Here is the nxtforum.org thread - https://nxtforum.org/cryptoasset-fund-projects/(pre-ann)-coinoindex-com-cryptocurrencies-industial-average/
Here is the website - http://cryptoindex.io/ (from asset description) or http://coinoindex.com/ (from ANN thread)

It'll take you a few minutes to see this asset is dead, and the ANN thread offers no explanation, just abandoned. A little more investigation reveals the same or similar for the other assets ... DEAD.

Sasha raised 100's of thousands from a number of Coinomat based assets, then abandoned them in favour of WAVES which raised 10's of millions. What's to say he doesn't abandon WAVES for a project in the 100's of millions. If this idea seems ridiculous (Sasha abandoning WAVES for something bigger/better), then try and explain why a promising project like Incent seems perfectly content to work with Sasha given his past behaviour? Either Incent guys don't realise all these past projects have been abandoned (which would be diabolical negligence in itself), or they do know, but are using WAVES anyway. The Crypto community obviously tolerates a lot more shonky behaviour.

Maybe others know what's going on with all Sasha's past coinomat based assets and businesses, (if so please share), but on the surface it looks like a collective delusion where everyone is happy to ignore reality. A 30M USD ICO was surely impressive, but Sasha's resume isn't.
sr. member
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How concerned are the Incent organisers (if at all) in the number of projects abandoned by Sasha so far? Coinomat, CryptoCard, CryptoIndex etc etc ... all look to be dead with very little communication on what's going on with them. Other coinomat projects like NEXT & NEXTBOND were basically orphaned and left to guys like Cassius to clean up the mess and apologise for the appalling behaviour and neglect of Sasha.

WAVES might be looking good today, but what happens if Sasha & Co. move on to greener pastures and abandon WAVES like they have with so many past assets and businesses? Do you have a plan B? I see this as a serious risk to Incent. Why not consider moving to another platform, maybe SuperNET.

This might not seem very likely to some here (i.e WAVES being abandoned for another project), but those who followed Sasha on nxtforum.or would be well aware of how things have gone for investors and users of these past projects. Aren't you guys concerned at Sasha's neglect of his past investors and users?

First time I'm hearing of this... proof?
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