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Topic: [ANN][INCNT] Incent Loyalty | Waves Token | Traded on Bittrex - page 161. (Read 491316 times)

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Hello please pay attention to your tve account....how come that fake twitter account could give incent for RT

Please give an action to this matter. I think many bots are working on this.
Actually, The Viral Exchange is top-notch in terms of bot detection. Which twitter account is fake?

The viral exchange tweet in question is a retweet of this post https://twitter.com/KarlKarlsson_/status/797938379807543296 which is a genuine account.

wow amazing it looks like i block the real account lol ... i can confirm that is real account in TVE  ...sorry guys ...

This what happen before


this fake account Using big I in KarIsson https://twitter.com/KarlKarIsson_ report this guys folks

it's terrible for me, but it gives me a nice joke at the same time.
There is two Karl in my mind.  Cheesy
May I report the account too?
Yes, please report the fake account and keep in mind that we will never send you such messages on social media. Be careful and keep an eye out, I am sure he will try again! Unfortunately, Twitter is either really slow blocking impersonators or they simply don't care.
legendary
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Merchants will buy/sell through BitScan, who will act as primary broker. They won't buy from an exchange!
We're contacting exchanges - will keep you posted. Any help on that front will be welcome as they like to know there's community demand for coins.
Okay. I thought you'd be buying/selling through the exchanges. It makes sense to use the existing infrastructure/ecosystem at BitScan.

Yeah, getting added to Bittrex adds credibility to the project. First Bittrex, then Poloniex!

BitScan will be primary broker, so we'll hold reserves we can deploy quickly to merchants, without slippage. We'll balance those up from the open market, so the effect will filter through and we'll always maintain that reserve.
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Merchants will buy/sell through BitScan, who will act as primary broker. They won't buy from an exchange!
We're contacting exchanges - will keep you posted. Any help on that front will be welcome as they like to know there's community demand for coins.
Okay. I thought you'd be buying/selling through the exchanges. It makes sense to use the existing infrastructure/ecosystem at BitScan.

Yeah, getting added to Bittrex adds credibility to the project. First Bittrex, then Poloniex!
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Hello please pay attention to your tve account....how come that fake twitter account could give incent for RT

Please give an action to this matter. I think many bots are working on this.
Actually, The Viral Exchange is top-notch in terms of bot detection. Which twitter account is fake?

The viral exchange tweet in question is a retweet of this post https://twitter.com/KarlKarlsson_/status/797938379807543296 which is a genuine account.

wow amazing it looks like i block the real account lol ... i can confirm that is real account in TVE  ...sorry guys ...

This what happen before




this fake account Using big I in KarIsson https://twitter.com/KarlKarIsson_ report this guys folks

it's terrible for me, but it gives me a nice joke at the same time.
There is two Karl in my mind.  Cheesy
May I report the account too?
legendary
Activity: 1764
Merit: 1031

Regarding the spread ("We will redeem Incent at a slightly lower price than it's bought"), how will this work exactly? Through what mechanism will you be able to capture that spread?

Also, I saw you contacted Bittrex on Twitter. How are things going on that front?

Thanks.

Merchants will buy/sell through BitScan, who will act as primary broker. They won't buy from an exchange!
We're contacting exchanges - will keep you posted. Any help on that front will be welcome as they like to know there's community demand for coins.
hero member
Activity: 1652
Merit: 593
Hello please pay attention to your tve account....how come that fake twitter account could give incent for RT

Please give an action to this matter. I think many bots are working on this.
Actually, The Viral Exchange is top-notch in terms of bot detection. Which twitter account is fake?

The viral exchange tweet in question is a retweet of this post https://twitter.com/KarlKarlsson_/status/797938379807543296 which is a genuine account.

wow amazing it looks like i block the real account lol ... i can confirm that is real account in TVE  ...sorry guys ...

This what happen before




this fake account Using big I in KarIsson https://twitter.com/KarlKarIsson_ report this guys folks
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While making purchase, it is important that currency is not volatile.
If a person purchased a good of $ 10 and receives $1 worth tokens at that time.
He goes to another shop after one year, and he finds out that tokens are now worth $0.5 only. This would not be good for customers as they would be at ri?sk fictions price.

So how would you prevent such situation?
Correct me if I'm wrong somewhere in my assumptions.

Incent is designed to increase in value simply by bringing in more and more merchants. This is what we will be working at the most after the end of ICO. Nevertheless, there might be periods in which Incent decreases, as any other currency/asset.

More importantly, however, is the fact that he received 0.5$ spendable in the whole Incent network. We are sure customers will soon appreciate the advantages open value offers them and rate this more important than having lost parts of their reward.

As of now, loyalty points can only be redeemed with the issuer and only then for a finite period. Once live, Incent will be redeemable anywhere, forever. To the holder, they will be 'money good'. This is, to use Peter Thiel's vernacular, a 10x improvement.

Blockchain makes this possible, through creation of token of finite supply aimed at this specific function.

Our thesis is that consumers will love this (open) value proposition and because Incent incurs a fraction of the operating costs and liability of conventional schemes - so will merchants.

The result will be regular and building demand for the token on the secondary market, as more and more merchants adopt - with the associated impact on token price.

Put another way, while the scenario you envisage is theoretically feasible, we deem it highly unlikely. And bear in mind that any conventional loyalty point is worthless - by design - at the one year point. Viewed from this perspective even 50 cents on the dollar is a significant improvement on the current status-quo.

In the meantime, the value proposition for holders of Incent (as a speculative investment) is similarly strong, as the project will see mainstream commerce paying to put crypto into the wallets of mainstream consumers. Every single transaction from every single participating merchant will result in a new demand impulse for Incent on the secondary market.

RW.

I agree that price of incent tokens would increase . It was just an assumption, if price of incent falls.

I agree, current loyalty system is inefficient. But still, many people may not be ready for it, anyhow they will soon adapt.

Still, I hope the incent token price would stable after the initial rise.



One question,
Transactions would go through blockchain, so it would require confirmations.
So, would the customer have to wait for a minute for confirmation transaction
newbie
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Hello please pay attention to your tve account....how come that fake twitter account could give incent for RT

Please give an action to this matter. I think many bots are working on this.
Actually, The Viral Exchange is top-notch in terms of bot detection. Which twitter account is fake?

The viral exchange tweet in question is a retweet of this post https://twitter.com/KarlKarlsson_/status/797938379807543296 which is a genuine account.
legendary
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No bots can work on TVE everything is manually done confirming a task or job will ask you to complete a captcha but some time there is no job to perform.
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Hey De Selby,
a) You're right, we'll have BTC/fiat and Incent reserves so we can send Incent and regular cash to merchants and customers promptly. There will be overall pressure on the price of Incent for a couple of reasons at least. The spread (we will redeem Incent at a slightly lower price than it's bought) for a start. Also, the merchant ecosystem will expand rapidly in the early months and years. A lot of Incent will therefore be bought. There will necessarily be a lag between that being sent to the customer and the customer redeeming it - if in fact they do, since many will probably hold as an investment or possibly forget about it! Essentially, any adoption brings greater scarcity of available supply.

b) If a merchant issues a token when Incent is $1 and it's at $2 when the customer redeems it, that's good for both of them! Remember, Incent is just another form of money. It's not backed by that individual merchant, it's sold at market price. This is one of the things that merchants love about Incent - there's no forward liability.
Of course, Incent may be worth less when it's redeemed by the customer, due to market fluctuations. That's not great, but everyone knows what the deal is from the start at the value of Incent in fiat will be displayed to the customer in the app. Also, we've designed Incent in such a way that the value should rise sustainably over the long term, whatever short-term volatility there is.

c) Waves is a platform and Incent a Waves token. So Waves is a tool here, rather than 'backing' Incent in some way. Incent will trade against fiat (merchants buying and redeeming) and BTC (on exchanges). Confidence in Waves is important, but so long as the platform works well I don't see that the price of Waves should materially impact the price of Incent once it's in the wild and being used as intended.

Does that all make sense?
Thanks for the prompt reply. Very informative.

Regarding the spread ("We will redeem Incent at a slightly lower price than it's bought"), how will this work exactly? Through what mechanism will you be able to capture that spread?

Also, I saw you contacted Bittrex on Twitter. How are things going on that front?

Thanks.
hero member
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16 days, 20 hours and 2 minutes  Grin Took almost forever.
Incent and the rest like DAR will neeed WAVES fullnodes before its going to be released right? I would assume it will still be 16 days still before sasha release them too. true?
You are right twice. We depend on Waves' asset issuance feature to launch Incent. The good thing is that the full node release candidate is ready (see official github) and to be launched within the coming days. Stay tuned!
legendary
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16 days, 20 hours and 2 minutes  Grin Took almost forever.
Incent and the rest like DAR will neeed WAVES fullnodes before its going to be released right? I would assume it will still be 16 days still before sasha release them too. true?
hero member
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Guys, don't forget to join our Slack > https://incentinvites.herokuapp.com/

On another note, Waves development is coming along nicely, here the latest update: http://coremedia.info/index.php/waves-news/item/347-waves-weekly-no-17
hero member
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Hello please pay attention to your tve account....how come that fake twitter account could give incent for RT

Please give an action to this matter. I think many bots are working on this.
Actually, The Viral Exchange is top-notch in terms of bot detection. Which twitter account is fake?
sr. member
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Hello please pay attention to your tve account....how come that fake twitter account could give incent for RT

Please give an action to this matter. I think many bots are working on this.
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Hello please pay attention to your tve account....how come that fake twitter account could give incent for RT
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While making purchase, it is important that currency is not volatile.
If a person purchased a good of $ 10 and receives $1 worth tokens at that time.
He goes to another shop after one year, and he finds out that tokens are now worth $0.5 only. This would not be good for customers as they would be at risk fictions price.

So how would you prevent such situation?
Correct me if I'm wrong somewhere in my assumptions.

Incent is designed to increase in value simply by bringing in more and more merchants. This is what we will be working at the most after the end of ICO. Nevertheless, there might be periods in which Incent decreases, as any other currency/asset.

More importantly, however, is the fact that he received 0.5$ spendable in the whole Incent network. We are sure customers will soon appreciate the advantages open value offers them and rate this more important than having lost parts of their reward.

As of now, loyalty points can only be redeemed with the issuer and only then for a finite period. Once live, Incent will be redeemable anywhere, forever. To the holder, they will be 'money good'. This is, to use Peter Thiel's vernacular, a 10x improvement.

Blockchain makes this possible, through creation of token of finite supply aimed at this specific function.

Our thesis is that consumers will love this (open) value proposition and because Incent incurs a fraction of the operating costs and liability of conventional schemes - so will merchants.

The result will be regular and building demand for the token on the secondary market, as more and more merchants adopt - with the associated impact on token price.

Put another way, while the scenario you envisage is theoretically feasible, we deem it highly unlikely. And bear in mind that any conventional loyalty point is worthless - by design - at the one year point. Viewed from this perspective even 50 cents on the dollar is a significant improvement on the current status-quo.

In the meantime, the value proposition for holders of Incent (as a speculative investment) is similarly strong, as the project will see mainstream commerce paying to put crypto into the wallets of mainstream consumers. Every single transaction from every single participating merchant will result in a new demand impulse for Incent on the secondary market.

RW.
hero member
Activity: 924
Merit: 1000
While making purchase, it is important that currency is not volatile.
If a person purchased a good of $ 10 and receives $1 worth tokens at that time.
He goes to another shop after one year, and he finds out that tokens are now worth $0.5 only. This would not be good for customers as they would be at risk fictions price.

So how would you prevent such situation?
Correct me if I'm wrong somewhere in my assumptions.
Incent is designed to increase in value simply by bringing in more and more merchants. This is what we will be working at the most after the end of ICO. Nevertheless, there might be periods in which Incent decreases, as any other currency/asset.

More importantly, however, is the fact that he received 0.5$ spendable in the whole Incent network. We are sure customers will soon appreciate the advantages open value offers them and rate this more important than having lost parts of their reward.
legendary
Activity: 1137
Merit: 1000
While making purchase, it is important that currency is not volatile.
If a person purchased a good of $ 10 and receives $1 worth tokens at that time.
He goes to another shop after one year, and he finds out that tokens are now worth $0.5 only. This would not be good for customers as they would be at risk fictions price.

So how would you prevent such situation?
Correct me if I'm wrong somewhere in my assumptions.

How to deal in a situation where you invest 1BTC $600 and after the ico you can't get more than 0.9BTC $600.

In this case we see that in both time period the value of investment is the same but btc volume isn't?
sr. member
Activity: 377
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While making purchase, it is important that currency is not volatile.
If a person purchased a good of $ 10 and receives $1 worth tokens at that time.
He goes to another shop after one year, and he finds out that tokens are now worth $0.5 only. This would not be good for customers as they would be at risk fictions price.

So how would you prevent such situation?
Correct me if I'm wrong somewhere in my assumptions.

Much of the opportunity here depends upon allowing Incent to trade on the open market as you would with any publicly traded company's stock.
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