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Quote from: montreal1 on November 11, 2022, 10:24:06 AM

has anyone had a lucky card with a lot of crypto value? Tempted to order some. thank you

Anyone who has purchased a case would have received a redemption card, but not sure if anyone has pulled a 1 BTC card yet.
Honestly I would rather not know until the product is sold out

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has anyone had a lucky card with a lot of crypto value? Tempted to order some. thank you

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Quote from: minerjones on October 25, 2022, 07:10:39 AM

Happy to accept pics of any Refractor or MR cards for the card pics archive

Here is an MR4 Amethyst pic to add to your collection, or the card if you wish to buy it (not mine, just found on eBay)
https://www.ebay.com/itm/265884499748?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=svpNBzQuTYi&sssrc=2047675&ssuid=j2jweie8qvs&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

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Quote from: CoinageMint on October 28, 2022, 12:59:21 AM

Quote from: JUPITYR on October 26, 2022, 11:12:39 AM

PSA is notoriously one of the most difficult 3PG's to "recognize" new sets. We would expect that they will grade these at some point in the future, but you may have better luck with another 3PG in the meantime.

@JUPITYR, I thought you were working with Mike Baker Authenticated to have these graded by PSA, what was the outcome there?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.60702395

Quote from: Todamont on October 27, 2022, 04:34:11 PM

Quote from: CoinageMint on October 25, 2022, 11:20:13 PM

My understanding is that the MR cards come in 3 different versions:
1. Crystal Sparkle (borderless) -> These seem to be the most common MR cards found. Not technically a Meta-Rare "Refractor" though
2. Holofoil (HF) -> The true Meta-Rare Refractor cards, high gloss, thick laminated cards. The odds of pulling one is 1:124 or higher
3. Gemstone - (numbered cards) -> Very rare

MJ made a great post here with pics that show all versions of the MR cards:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.60698399

So it seems like the crystal sparkle meta-rare cards can be considered as part of the crystal sparkle set, or they can be considered essentially like a "base" version of the meta-rare cards, while the holofoils are the 1:124 odds cards. The CS MR cards can also be considered "error cards" or part of a unique set, themselves, but there are likely more than 124 of each, meaning a total of somewhere above 11x124 = 1364 total CS MR cards exist, probably at least double or maybe 4 times that number. They are apparently no more rare than any other CS card so the odds of finding one might be expected to be 1:2 (odds of finding a CS card) times 11:73 (number of MR out of total card CS card designs) or 11:146 = around 1:13 pack odds. If we know the total number of cards of all types produced, we could probably back out a good estimation of the number of each card produced...

Referring to the crystal sparkle MR as essentially "base" MR cards or part of the CS set is a good idea, sounds ok to me. Unfortunately not all of the MR cards come in crystal sparkle, so it would be impossible to make a CS set with all MR cards included.
They could also be considered "error cards" in a way, but since there is so many i don't think that would add any value.

The 1:124 odds relates to per pack odds, it doesn't mean there are only 124 of each card.

Yeah, just the MR8 card does not come in Crystal Sparkle
The MR Holofoils definitely seem to be harder to come by... have only seen half of them.

MR Crystal Sparkle:

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Quote from: JUPITYR on October 26, 2022, 11:12:39 AM

PSA is notoriously one of the most difficult 3PG's to "recognize" new sets. We would expect that they will grade these at some point in the future, but you may have better luck with another 3PG in the meantime.

@JUPITYR, I thought you were working with Mike Baker Authenticated to have these graded by PSA, what was the outcome there?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.60702395

Quote from: Todamont on October 27, 2022, 04:34:11 PM

Quote from: CoinageMint on October 25, 2022, 11:20:13 PM

My understanding is that the MR cards come in 3 different versions:
1. Crystal Sparkle (borderless) -> These seem to be the most common MR cards found. Not technically a Meta-Rare "Refractor" though
2. Holofoil (HF) -> The true Meta-Rare Refractor cards, high gloss, thick laminated cards. The odds of pulling one is 1:124 or higher
3. Gemstone - (numbered cards) -> Very rare

MJ made a great post here with pics that show all versions of the MR cards:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.60698399

So it seems like the crystal sparkle meta-rare cards can be considered as part of the crystal sparkle set, or they can be considered essentially like a "base" version of the meta-rare cards, while the holofoils are the 1:124 odds cards. The CS MR cards can also be considered "error cards" or part of a unique set, themselves, but there are likely more than 124 of each, meaning a total of somewhere above 11x124 = 1364 total CS MR cards exist, probably at least double or maybe 4 times that number. They are apparently no more rare than any other CS card so the odds of finding one might be expected to be 1:2 (odds of finding a CS card) times 11:73 (number of MR out of total card CS card designs) or 11:146 = around 1:13 pack odds. If we know the total number of cards of all types produced, we could probably back out a good estimation of the number of each card produced...

Referring to the crystal sparkle MR as essentially "base" MR cards or part of the CS set is a good idea, sounds ok to me. Unfortunately not all of the MR cards come in crystal sparkle, so it would be impossible to make a CS set with all MR cards included.
They could also be considered "error cards" in a way, but since there is so many i don't think that would add any value.

The 1:124 odds relates to per pack odds, it doesn't mean there are only 124 of each card.

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Regarding the PSA grading and license- I believe what they are saying is that it needs to be established that cardsmiths has a license agreement or arrangement with the artists before they grade. They dont want to grade a card as original and then get sued by an artist saying that they never had permission to use the art. I suspect Cardsmiths would have to reach out to PSA and go through some sort of validation process before PSA would grade. I have no knowledge of this process just speculation.

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Quote from: CoinageMint on October 25, 2022, 11:20:13 PM

My understanding is that the MR cards come in 3 different versions:
1. Crystal Sparkle (borderless) -> These seem to be the most common MR cards found. Not technically a Meta-Rare "Refractor" though
2. Holofoil (HF) -> The true Meta-Rare Refractor cards, high gloss, thick laminated cards. The odds of pulling one is 1:124 or higher
3. Gemstone - (numbered cards) -> Very rare

MJ made a great post here with pics that show all versions of the MR cards:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.60698399

So it seems like the crystal sparkle meta-rare cards can be considered as part of the crystal sparkle set, or they can be considered essentially like a "base" version of the meta-rare cards, while the holofoils are the 1:124 odds cards. The CS MR cards can also be considered "error cards" or part of a unique set, themselves, but there are likely more than 124 of each, meaning a total of somewhere above 11x124 = 1364 total CS MR cards exist, probably at least double or maybe 4 times that number. They are apparently no more rare than any other CS card so the odds of finding one might be expected to be 1:2 (odds of finding a CS card) times 11:73 (number of MR out of total card CS card designs) or 11:146 = around 1:13 pack odds. If we know the total number of cards of all types produced, we could probably back out a good estimation of the number of each card produced...

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Quote from: xSlyy on October 26, 2022, 11:03:57 AM

HEY! For anybody considering using PSA This might be important for others to know as well. I had sent a card to PSA to be graded, and here's what I received a week after PSA received the card. They won't grade it! I'm new to cards, and I never once considered a card could be 'unauthorized', but due to this, it's not recognized by them and won't slab it. Save yourself the time and don't bother with PSA, had I known this, I never would have sent them this card in the first place.

For reference, I found this after digging a little deeper... Obviously PSA eventually recognized Pokemon, maybe we just wait it out, or find another grader who will recognize the Currency Series. This series is clearly very real, to me this seems like a wall around the garden from the OLD to the NEW. Another legacy system flaw, get with the times! Or I may be completely out of left field in my thinking and this is something all new card releases go through.

_{oi! you got a LOICENSE for that card m8!?}

PSA is notoriously one of the most difficult 3PG's to "recognize" new sets. We would expect that they will grade these at some point in the future, but you may have better luck with another 3PG in the meantime.

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HEY! For anybody considering using PSA This might be important for others to know as well. I had sent a card to PSA to be graded, and here's what I received a week after PSA received the card. They won't grade it! I'm new to cards, and I never once considered a card could be 'unauthorized', but due to this, it's not recognized by them and won't slab it. Save yourself the time and don't bother with PSA, had I known this, I never would have sent them this card in the first place.

For reference, I found this after digging a little deeper... Obviously PSA eventually recognized Pokemon, maybe we just wait it out, or find another grader who will recognize the Currency Series. This series is clearly very real, to me this seems like a wall around the garden from the OLD to the NEW. Another legacy system flaw, get with the times! Or I may be completely out of left field in my thinking and this is something all new card releases go through.

_{oi! you got a LOICENSE for that card m8!?}

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Quote from: xSlyy on October 25, 2022, 10:36:18 AM

Quote from: JUPITYR on October 25, 2022, 09:31:03 AM

The 1:124 MR are the ones on the bottom row in MJ's picture with the border.

A small consolation is that adding the MR card art to the CS population means there are fewer of each of those designs to be found in CS. Yes, it does mean that collectors will need to be on guard and be able to spot the differences.

Just to clarify then, are you saying that Holofoil MR cards are actually more rare than a Crystal Sparkle MR?

Sound like that to me

Quote from: Todamont on October 25, 2022, 05:06:54 PM

Oh man, I bought one of the Meta-Rare crystal sparkle cards. It does indeed say MR1 on the top right, so it is clearly a meta-rare card. It definitely looks crystal sparkly, like the other CS cards that I have... Is it an "error card"? Are there non-sparkly "base" meta-rare cards? Inquiring minds want to know if the CS, holofoil, or refractor MR cards are the most rare!

My understanding is that the MR cards come in 3 different versions:
1. Crystal Sparkle (borderless) -> These seem to be the most common MR cards found. Not technically a Meta-Rare "Refractor" though
2. Holofoil (HF) -> The true Meta-Rare Refractor cards, high gloss, thick laminated cards. The odds of pulling one is 1:124 or higher
3. Gemstone - (numbered cards) -> Very rare

MJ made a great post here with pics that show all versions of the MR cards:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.60698399

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Oh man, I bought one of the Meta-Rare crystal sparkle cards. It does indeed say MR1 on the top right, so it is clearly a meta-rare card. It definitely looks crystal sparkly, like the other CS cards that I have... Is it an "error card"? Are there non-sparkly "base" meta-rare cards? Inquiring minds want to know if the CS, holofoil, or refractor MR cards are the most rare!

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Quote from: JUPITYR on October 25, 2022, 09:31:03 AM

The 1:124 MR are the ones on the bottom row in MJ's picture with the border.

A small consolation is that adding the MR card art to the CS population means there are fewer of each of those designs to be found in CS. Yes, it does mean that collectors will need to be on guard and be able to spot the differences.

Just to clarify then, are you saying that Holofoil MR cards are actually more rare than a Crystal Sparkle MR?

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Quote from: JUPITYR on October 25, 2022, 09:31:03 AM

Quote from: CoinageMint on October 25, 2022, 08:02:33 AM

Thanks MJ
I am aware that the MR cards come in both CS and HF, I am just trying to confirm which one is the "real" meta-rare, the one with the odds of 1:124

From the post above by JUPITYR it sounds like the CS version of the MR cards are an error and not found at the same odds, therefore would likely not be worth as much on the secondary market.
I feel bad for anyone who has purchased a crystal sparkle MR thinking it was "meta-rare"

The 1:124 MR are the ones on the bottom row in MJ's picture with the border.

A small consolation is that adding the MR card art to the CS population means there are fewer of each of those designs to be found in CS. Yes, it does mean that collectors will need to be on guard and be able to spot the differences.

@MJ: There should be no Year of the Ox in CS as they were always a separate part of the production.

That is good to know, thank you Cheesy

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Quote from: CoinageMint on October 25, 2022, 08:02:33 AM

Thanks MJ
I am aware that the MR cards come in both CS and HF, I am just trying to confirm which one is the "real" meta-rare, the one with the odds of 1:124

From the post above by JUPITYR it sounds like the CS version of the MR cards are an error and not found at the same odds, therefore would likely not be worth as much on the secondary market.
I feel bad for anyone who has purchased a crystal sparkle MR thinking it was "meta-rare"

The 1:124 MR are the ones on the bottom row in MJ's picture with the border.

A small consolation is that adding the MR card art to the CS population means there are fewer of each of those designs to be found in CS. Yes, it does mean that collectors will need to be on guard and be able to spot the differences.

@MJ: There should be no Year of the Ox in CS as they were always a separate part of the production.

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Thanks MJ
I am aware that the MR cards come in both CS and HF, I am just trying to confirm which one is the "real" meta-rare, the one with the odds of 1:124

From the post above by JUPITYR it sounds like the CS version of the MR cards are an error and not found at the same odds, therefore would likely not be worth as much on the secondary market.
I feel bad for anyone who has purchased a crystal sparkle MR thinking it was "meta-rare"

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Quote from: CoinageMint on October 25, 2022, 07:02:11 AM

Quote from: JUPITYR on October 25, 2022, 06:38:35 AM

Quote from: CoinageMint on October 16, 2022, 09:51:41 AM

Is it just me or do the meta-rare cards seem to be more common than the stated odds (1:124)

I just watched a break on YouTube and they pulled about 4 from a case
Also HouseOfBAMF pulled 4 from their case.

Could the 1:124 odds maybe relate to a gemstone version of the MR cards, not a HF or CR versions..

Great question.

While the Meta-Rare card art shows up in the Crystal Sparkle (borderless) foil slots, those are not technically the Meta-Rare "Refractors". Refractors are much thicker card stock and go through a lamination process that the other foils do not. Also, the Refractor background has a rainbow effect with no "sparkle" in the foil pattern. If you put them next to each other you will quickly start to spot the differences.

It was not originally intended for the Meta-Rare art to show up in the Crystal Sparkle slot, but we had to have something go wrong. ;-)

Regardless, the actual refractors should still only appear 1:124 packs as indicated.

Sorry for the confusion.

Thanks for jumping in.
So the odds of finding a CS meta-rare would be less than 1:124
Would you say the card shown on the link below is a "real" meta-rare card?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.60636117

Yes... the MR cards also come in the Holofoil variation.
6 of the 11 have been seen so far!! Cheesy

And 10 of Crystal Sparkle MR cards have been seen.. just missing the MR8 Year of the Ox

Happy to accept pics of any Refractor or MR cards for the card pics archive

Here are a few of the MR cards w/ both their HF and CS cards:

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Quote from: JUPITYR on October 25, 2022, 06:38:35 AM

Quote from: CoinageMint on October 16, 2022, 09:51:41 AM

Is it just me or do the meta-rare cards seem to be more common than the stated odds (1:124)

I just watched a break on YouTube and they pulled about 4 from a case
Also HouseOfBAMF pulled 4 from their case.

Could the 1:124 odds maybe relate to a gemstone version of the MR cards, not a HF or CR versions..

Great question.

While the Meta-Rare card art shows up in the Crystal Sparkle (borderless) foil slots, those are not technically the Meta-Rare "Refractors". Refractors are much thicker card stock and go through a lamination process that the other foils do not. Also, the Refractor background has a rainbow effect with no "sparkle" in the foil pattern. If you put them next to each other you will quickly start to spot the differences.

It was not originally intended for the Meta-Rare art to show up in the Crystal Sparkle slot, but we had to have something go wrong. ;-)

Regardless, the actual refractors should still only appear 1:124 packs as indicated.

Sorry for the confusion.

Thanks for jumping in.
So the odds of finding a CS meta-rare would be less than 1:124
Would you say the card shown on the link below is a "real" meta-rare card?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.60636117

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Quote from: CoinageMint on October 16, 2022, 09:51:41 AM

Is it just me or do the meta-rare cards seem to be more common than the stated odds (1:124)

I just watched a break on YouTube and they pulled about 4 from a case
Also HouseOfBAMF pulled 4 from their case.

Could the 1:124 odds maybe relate to a gemstone version of the MR cards, not a HF or CR versions..

Great question.

While the Meta-Rare card art shows up in the Crystal Sparkle (borderless) foil slots, those are not technically the Meta-Rare "Refractors". Refractors are much thicker card stock and go through a lamination process that the other foils do not. Also, the Refractor background has a rainbow effect with no "sparkle" in the foil pattern. If you put them next to each other you will quickly start to spot the differences.

It was not originally intended for the Meta-Rare art to show up in the Crystal Sparkle slot, but we had to have something go wrong. ;-)

Regardless, the actual refractors should still only appear 1:124 packs as indicated.

Sorry for the confusion.

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Quote from: Cryptogreatdane on October 25, 2022, 01:03:53 AM

Quote from: HouseOfBAMF on October 24, 2022, 11:15:36 PM

Got to keep going for all the holos and sparkles now. Pretty much everytime i open packs i get enough cards that sell on secondary market to cover the cost of the packs. Not that im selling them, but the strong secondary has been impressive. Just wait 5 years when all the cards are sold out and ebay starts to dry up. These are probably a better return than your 401k.

I keep making base card sets I think I have 4 now… working on holifoil and CS sets now…

Contemplating getting another large box but I have so many extra base cards as it is…

Where are you selling your extras?

[/quote] im not selling them. So many base cards theres no market for base cards yet. In years there will be a market but not now. Was thinking about a card burn.. like a token burn. Everyone burns some base cards and post pics. Decrease the overall market.
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Haha, i love it. Wait till i have my base set together before the burn please Cheesy

If you need any CS or HF cards let me know what ones and i might be able to help you out. All you would need to cover is shipping costs.
I am just happy to make a base set, hopefully one with all the MR cards too

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Quote from: HouseOfBAMF on October 24, 2022, 11:15:36 PM

Got to keep going for all the holos and sparkles now. Pretty much everytime i open packs i get enough cards that sell on secondary market to cover the cost of the packs. Not that im selling them, but the strong secondary has been impressive. Just wait 5 years when all the cards are sold out and ebay starts to dry up. These are probably a better return than your 401k.
[/quote]

I keep making base card sets I think I have 4 now… working on holifoil and CS sets now…

Contemplating getting another large box but I have so many extra base cards as it is…

Where are you selling your extras?

[/quote] im not selling them. So many base cards theres no market for base cards yet. In years there will be a market but not now. Was thinking about a card burn.. like a token burn. Everyone burns some base cards and post pics. Decrease the overall market.

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