You know the great thing about this dual algo thing ?
When the coins are cheap, it's more economical to buy and stake, so it drives the price up and the difficulty down (because in theory, it encourages less people mining more people buying).
But when they're expensive then it becomes more economical to mine again and that keeps the hashrate up.
Nice, self-regulating balanced system.
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I cannot get stake to to work. all I get is mine and not stake coin. it is strange. I follow the instruction. 
I thought they were the same thing.
When I received coins by leaving my wallet open it has a "mining" icon next to it. But I can see they are "staked" and not mined because:
[1] - it's the right amount of coins per day (0.1%)
[2] - my CPU is almost asleep. Not one single fan is on
Staked, Minted or Mined - doesn't matter. If it's a wallet that's doing it (as opposed to a miner with masses of electricity and noisy fans) then it's probably staked.
(Don't know what the difference between "staking" and "minting" is. I think it's the same thing).
I cannot get stake to to work. all I get is mine and not stake coin. it is strange. I follow the instruction.
Mining vs Staking:
Here's how I see it (for someone with crap jackpotware):
Cost of 2 x 7950's: $570 + Electricity (roughly 2000 KH/s if your lucky)
Coins mined per day: 50,000 JPC (...decreasing cos difficulty's goin up)
...on the other hand...
Cost of 40 million JPC @ 4 Sats = $720 (no electricity)
Coins staked per day: ~ 40,000 JPC (... increasing due to compound interest)
No electricity and no contest
Here's how I see it (for someone with crap jackpotware):
Cost of 2 x 7950's: $570 + Electricity (roughly 2000 KH/s if your lucky)
Coins mined per day: 50,000 JPC (...decreasing cos difficulty's goin up)
...on the other hand...
Cost of 40 million JPC @ 4 Sats = $720 (no electricity)
Coins staked per day: ~ 40,000 JPC (... increasing due to compound interest)
No electricity and no contest
is there a profit calculator for this coin yet or not?
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Man, last nine blocks i have found are orphaned...
Something wrong with the network?
Something wrong with the network?
Is JPC added to swaphole? hmm apparently not, but we are in the 1st position in vote.
Just a few votes on Mintpal to overtake Quark and Moon.
+1 +1 ^^
Nice
Don't forget that one user can vote:
3 times / hour on Swissex
1 time / hour on Mintpal
We can sure make it to Swissex in a week, and I hope in a month to Mintpal
Just don't sleep - give your vote!
First place on Swissex has about 20K votes, thats about 1BTC; third place has a fourth of that.
If we agree on that we should go for Swiss first, perhaps we can do a colloctive/collecting effort not only by voting three times an hour? Using an eswrow would be an alterntive to see how much interest there is and lowering the risk, gathering BTC's for voting
+1 +1 ^^
Nice
Don't forget that one user can vote:
3 times / hour on Swissex
1 time / hour on Mintpal
We can sure make it to Swissex in a week, and I hope in a month to Mintpal
Just don't sleep - give your vote!
I think so. What do I have to do?
Block registration?
Any suggestions are welcomed.
Close new registrations asap. Close invites. Open up 2nd pool with own coinD. If needed 3rd pool. If you fork the coin, all the solo miners will be pissed
Greetings from poolerino.com. (No we dont have a pool for this coin...)
Registration closed.
Please open another jackpotcoin pool.
+1 +1 ^^
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I've not been credited anything for the past hour. Is there a problem?
same problem here.havnt seen credit for some time.
+1
I think, unfortunately, that the odds of getting a jackpot are so much better on this pool that everyone is flocking to it. Over 90% of the Net hashrate is on this single pool. That's not good, right?
ii just looked at they are doing 3 and they network is 13
Can anyone tell me if Spoetnik's CPU miner works in cheat mode? It's giving me pretty good hashrates on my i3 laptop but I'm not sure if any blocks I might find will be accepted. Thanks.
you should be fine when it comes to sending QUALITY work.
there should be NO problem at all finding blocks !
the REAL question though is performance actually better or is it an illusion kind of ? i am not so sure it helps much
let me explain what is happening with cheat mode
if hashing is going to take too long it simply drops the work and gets new work to start hashing on.
so it's not possible to send ANY bad shares or invalid data of any kind.
it will work EXACTLY like the official version of the hashing algo.
how the hashing algo works is by running five different hashing algo's in three rounds..
and what normally happens is in order to build a proper final hash the cycle of what hash algo's get triggered and on what round vary a lot.
here is a sample of what it looks like
Quote
gro = 2
_jh = 1
ske = 0
blk = 0
ske = 1
blk = 1
ske = 2
blk = 2
ske = 0
blk = 0
ske = 1
blk = 1
ske = 2
_jh = 2
ske = 1
blk = 1
_jh = 1
ske = 0
blk = 0
ske = 1
blk = 1
ske = 2
blk = 2
ske = 0
blk = 0
ske = 1
blk = 1
ske = 2
_jh = 2
ske = 1
blk = 1
the quoted info is where i put some logging into the code to watch what was happening while hashing normally..
each three letter code is the different hashing algo's abbreviated to 3 letters.
and each of those numbers are what round the specific hashing algo was triggered.
that is 5 algo's running 3 rounds and there is 2 specific points where it checks to run one algo or the other.
anyway, so what you see logged right away in first line in my quoted sample info is Groestl got triggered on round 3 (the final round)
so that means it had already completed hashing it's way through rounds 1 and 2 and now it hit GRO on round 3.
what i did was change the code so that it asks for new work if the miner detects that Groestl will get run more than once.
because Groestl i think is the hardest hash algo to run and takes the longest to finish.
so the change i shared for testing on my cpu miner topic in my sig simply on some circumstances stops hashing and asks for new work
it does not change the work that gets sent.. does that make any sense ?
I Did try something more or less similar on the cgminer code some times ago
Actually I was just counting the number of times the groestl was called and if it was about to enter a 2nd time the groestl condition nothing was done (which is kind of stupid, just realized, as I should have asked to leave the loop to avoid computing the other algo for nothing... may-be I should check again... )
However if there is a gain in terms of "raw" speed, the probability to find a corresponding hash also decrease since it throws all hashes with 2 (or more) groestl functions.
If I am not mistaken, there is 1/2 chance to get groestl at each round, so
So the probability to get 2 or more groestl is
And the probability to get less than 2 should be
So technically to be faster than the original algorithm, the speed of the "cheat" algo must be 2 times faster than the original to compensate the loss of certain combination.
If it is the case, your cheat is faster otherwise it is slower.
obviously if your cheat is just 2x faster, it has the exact same speed as the original.
(in my case, if I remember well I was slower, but there was a mistake, since I wasn't leaving the loop fast enough)
In any case my conclusion with the R9 290x was that the best way to optimise its performance (versus my gtx780ti) was to run on an other coin...
edit: few error in prob calculation... (hope I got it right this time... it's late...)
i think you could perceive the result in many ways.. i can anyway.
it's complicated kinda lol
I didn't just do this.. another guy did 1+ year ago on quark and i got his code sample and had spent MONTHS working on it..
so all together i have spent one hella crazy ass mega long time recompiling and checking
as well as having dedicated beta testers helping test the so called cheat mode.. so i have given it a LOT of thought lol
I have been making miners mods for ages and have spent huge amount for time doing in for just under a year.
you can add 1+1 from right to left or you can add 1+1 from left to right and it's still 2
you don't need to be good at math to figure that out either lol
what i did was provide ONE example of about 100's i have done in the last few days alone..
i have re-written the hashing algo to use no rounds or switch statements or or or...
my current version is massively different than what i posted last lol
and faster
edit:
https://github.com/cbuchner1/ccminer/commit/be044f31a1df3baa05857018ba8525700743159f
case ya didn't see that before lol
Quote
May 05, 2014
Christian Buchner - cbuchner1 - Speed optimization: do MUCH LESS Groestl in Jackpot, throw away 75% of the hashes. More speed ;-)
Christian Buchner - cbuchner1 - Speed optimization: do MUCH LESS Groestl in Jackpot, throw away 75% of the hashes. More speed ;-)
Voted. Both Swissex and Mintpal.
Jackpot hit again?
Congrats Mining Pool Hub!
Leave some for the others lol
Congrats Mining Pool Hub!
Leave some for the others lol
Sure, we stopped registration.
Hope it spreads hashes.
Thanks!
Don't forget to vote on https://www.swisscex.com/voting - it's our chance to get onto really serious exchange!
Also, vote on https://www.mintpal.com/voting ...
Also, vote on https://www.mintpal.com/voting ...
Jackpot hit again?
Congrats Mining Pool Hub!
Leave some for the others lol
Congrats Mining Pool Hub!
Leave some for the others lol
Sure, we stopped registration.
Hope it spreads hashes.
Spreading of hash, it is the important thing.
How can make the miner to move or join the other pool spontaneously ?
It is very difficult to make it because of miner re trust the big pool has big chance of reward then small pool.
Technically, it iis wrong, it is just depend on ther period of mining.
Thank you for your great help for this coin,
Jackpot hit again?
Congrats Mining Pool Hub!
Leave some for the others lol
Congrats Mining Pool Hub!
Leave some for the others lol
Sure, we stopped registration.
Hope it spreads hashes.
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