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Topic: [ANN][KAR] KARPELESCOIN | Rehabilitation completed !!! Check your account !!! - page 15. (Read 27986 times)

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Let me to do know for you why this scheme will be profit for investor and affected.

IPO is an offer (Offer because is priced 10 times lesser than targert price), so an investor, suppously named Josephine,  purchases 100 KARPELES paying for it 1 BTC. Later, after launch and after rehab starting, an affected, named Constantin, RECEIVES an ammount of 1,220 KARPELES after of have been proved that and address from MtGox had done withdrawals to his address of yours and MTGox is leaked that a id-tx to his address was changed to another, losing 120 BTCs Constatin has not paid nothing for KARPELES it was somehow a donation for carring on the Mtogox negligence. It is not valid to compute the LOST BTCs like investemtn !!!

At 2 Jun, KARPELES is priced 0.2 BTC. At this moment, only a few people purchased IPO (most of them was destroyed, re-valued coin) so, Josepdhine sells out 100 KArpeles for 20 BTCs, getting 2000% RoI with a bit investment of 1 BTC. Prices rise to 0.6 BTC, because only a few people purchased  KARPELES in IPO, and Constatiin sells out  1,220 KARPELES, getting for it 244 BTC, a 100% additional over 120 BTC lost bt MTGox. Constatin really DID NOT INVEST in KARPELES[, so it is not comparable with IPO. IPO is an OFFER, the words does say it.

SO this is the balance:

Josephine won 19 BTC for 100 KARPELES, investing only 1 BTC, with near to 2000% profit.

COnstatin, a Mtoox affected whom mtgox lost 120 BTC to, has got 120 BTC returned and a 100% additional becasue of market offering/supply. Addtionally, Constatin are wating for a court resolution for a rehabilitation by Mtgox of 120 BTCs, adding a compensation for injuries and damages too.

Please, check the maths, only a few people will have got KARPELES at launch, so KARPELES of IPO will be detroyed, doing more valuable and rare the coin, and rising prices.

I hope this example helps to understand better the interaction IPO/Rehab, and how IPO contriutes to fix price base and Rehab is done gradually, without negative impact inKARPELES price.

Regards
legendary
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just when we thought alt's couldn't get any lower in value.  Roll Eyes


- Factor conversion: 10 KARPELES = 1 BTC LOST by MtGox.
- Purchasing price: 1 KARPELES = 0.01 BTC .



 Lips sealed i'm saying nowt.


IPO is just a rapid way of destroying some of premine , exactaly 1,000,000 :

1) if nothing is purchased, less premine, more valuable cap,

2) if a lof ot IPO os purchased, more solid basis of price.

What is the problem ?


Problem IS the investors buying Krapeles through IPO would get 100 Krap for every 1BTC and you are proposing the 'victims' get 10 Krap for every 1BTC lost. The investors would be the winner not the 'victims'.


oh, great argument   Roll Eyes 

With 10 KARPELES (0.43 BTC accodgin auroracoin price)  per 1 BTC stolen, an affected customer could to cover almost 50% of funds.

Affected has nothing to lose and they can recovery a part of funds ... How much? Well, it will depend on ..,


IF the price reaches .043 then investors will dump 100 Krap for 4.3BTC making a profit of 3.3BTC. If i was an investor, i would dump at .02 and double my BTC and so would other investors, hence the price will never reach .043. That assumes anyone daft enough to buy Krap knowing full well all you want is your BTC 'back' by scamming others.

Now who is going to buy Krap on the exchanges and lose their BTC. People who lost BTC through MtGox can not expect others to pay for their losses. You are trying to recover your lost BTC by getting others to buy your worthless Krap that has no value as it's designed to compensate for your losses.



it is a full set of advantages:



For yourself only.


you dont understand the price/value difference yet. read a bit

Neither do you.

Finally it has all the hallmark of an IPO scam.

One to avoid.

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Lots of affected people are interesting about the proposal and such novelties of karpelescoin.

If you can to prove that you have got a BTC address which is binded to any Mtgox address by means of a tx, the case is clear. It is so easy as to sign a message with your "to" address and the link with MtGox address is done.

You are an smart kid and you are wondering how you know which address onws to MtGox? That will be determinated along the court but it is sure info will be leaked ... this wiill be taken in account for distribuiting karpeles to affected.

Regards and supportive aims to Mtgox affected !!

sr. member
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Lot of people are wondering how prove ammount LOST by mtgox.

you are deluding yourself. If this was the case, 'lots of people'; would be posting on this thread.
alas, the only people posting on this thread are people who think this is just another sh*tcoin.

poor deluded sh*tcoin.
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YOu can sign a BTC message with your own BTC address so:

signmessage  1NrMDgsxrduzAW7wY59TLaJnpgpNKkyweZ   "Address 1NrMDgsxrduzAW7wY59TLaJnpgpNKkyweZ  is mine."

and OUTPUT is an ASCII string similar to this

*&^*/()&(/JFHNHBY$E^Y$E&^Yby·*^^^V%&Y^%&Û$&/(%/N=
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Lot of people are wondering how prove ammount LOST by mtgox.

It is ease, it is just to prove the ownership of a BTC address with transactions from your MtGox addres and that have been exploited with tx-maleability. For proof , you must to sign a message with the address where you have received BTC from exploited MTgox address

This is a sample template for a REHAB Request:


[REHAB] 29.312344 BTCS FROM MTGOX ADDRESS 13crs3EK5rwYPRhTWQzvatVZrCyHnENJ1P

AMMOUNT: 29.312344 BTC
BTC ADDRESS OF WALLET IN MTGOX: http://blockchain.info/address/13crs3EK5rwYPRhTWQzvatVZrCyHnENJ1P  
TX-MALEABILITY EXPLOITED TRANSACTION LINK: http://blockchain.info/tx/965106753158d4399bf171f22a8ab8208de398cdfc2f08482ab4ee55e27ffb7c
PROVED OWN BTC ADDRESS: http://blockchain.info/address/1NrMDgsxrduzAW7wY59TLaJnpgpNKkyweZ
MESSAGE SIGNED WHITH PROVED OWN BTC ADDRESS: verifymessage 1NrMDgsxrduzAW7wY59TLaJnpgpNKkyweZ  *&^*/()&(/JFHNHBY$E^Y$E&^Yby·*^^^V%&Y^%&ÛÑ$&/(%/=  "Address 1NrMDgsxrduzAW7wY59TLaJnpgpNKkyweZ  is mine."    true
TX FROM MTGOX ADDRESS TO PROVED OWN ADDRESS: http://blockchain.info/tx/5ec6c922fb3b93a356372651d12bb1ea710fd4188836bf2f5067a5bdbbdf1d29

          
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and what if i value your coitus interruptus at 1satoshi. what then?

If you value KARPELES at 1 satoshi you can not purchase KARPELES

splendid.  Roll Eyes i may buy ONE when the price gets on 1satoshi on the exchange..


and it WILL.

you dont understand the price/value difference yet. read a bit

karpeles coin has NIL value. this is what you don't understand.


because you are uncapable to read  (negligent like karpeles  Roll Eyes )  I do a brief resumè:

KARPELESCOIN provides:

1) a rehabilitaiton procedure for MtGox affected, with a detailed mining scheme and covering 43% of lost funds (with auroracoin current prices- note the difference price/value, pleas)
2) an distribution scheme clearly detailed
3) An IPO opppurtinity for people who wants to invest and get 1000% profit. BEcause KARPELES are offered to 10 times lesser underrated price, you could get a RoI of 1000% when KARPELES takes the target price (note it is said price, one more time).

Take a look of Detail of premine distribuition.





sr. member
Activity: 434
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and what if i value your coitus interruptus at 1satoshi. what then?

If you value KARPELES at 1 satoshi you can not purchase KARPELES

splendid.  Roll Eyes i may buy ONE when the price gets on 1satoshi on the exchange..


and it WILL.

you dont understand the price/value difference yet. read a bit

karpeles coin has NIL value. this is what you don't understand.
full member
Activity: 126
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and what if i value your coitus interruptus at 1satoshi. what then?

If you value KARPELES at 1 satoshi you can not purchase KARPELES

splendid.  Roll Eyes i may buy ONE when the price gets on 1satoshi on the exchange..


and it WILL.

you dont understand the price/value difference yet. read a bit
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
and what if i value your coitus interruptus at 1satoshi. what then?

If you value KARPELES at 1 satoshi you can not purchase KARPELES

splendid.  Roll Eyes i may buy ONE when the price gets on 1satoshi on the exchange..


and it WILL.
full member
Activity: 126
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and what if i value your coitus interruptus at 1satoshi. what then?

If you value KARPELES at 1 satoshi you can not purchase KARPELES, that is all Cheesy . Proof: you can not purchase AURORACOIN to 1 satoshi because  is not priced  so, but rather  0.043 BTC. Price and value are not the same and are bound to law of supply and demand.

I recommend you take a look at basic economics.
sr. member
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and what if i value your coitus interruptus at 1satoshi. what then?
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Where is wrong with it?  Embarrassed

i'll let you work that one out for yourself. you are clever enough to create a cryptocurrency, then you will be clever enough to take note of the price you quote.  Cheesy


Rehabilitation= 10 KARPELES each 1 BTC LOST
Currently AURORACOIN is priced 0.043 BTC/AURORACOIN

REally it is a 4 yearl old proportion ... if  KARPELES was priced like AURORACOIN, 0.043 BTC,  10 KARPELES = 10 * 0.043 BTC = 0.43 BTC . This ammount would receive all mtgox affected per each BTC STOLEN, what is substantially above than 0.0.

This would be an hypothetical fund Rehabilitation if KARPELESCOIN was priced equal than AURORACOIN.

The perfect fund coverage would succed when 1 KARPELES be priced 0.1 BTC.

Not mention when AURORACOIN was priced  0.25 BTC, in which case mtgox affected would get benefits about 150 % over amount of BTC LOST.

Paralell, a 10 times lower priced IPO is holded for 2 reasons,:

1) fostering KARPELES in community and create investment interest for who WANTS to invest (nobody is forced to it)

2) destroy a bulk of premine. KARPELES not purchased will be destroyed. Less CAP (10% less if no purchases at all), most valuable COIN.

Please feel free for commenting or questioning.

Regards



sr. member
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Where is wrong with it?  Embarrassed

i'll let you work that one out for yourself. you are clever enough to create a cryptocurrency, then you will be clever enough to take note of the price you quote.  Cheesy
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yeah i can see a bunch of noobs on the altcoin forum digging deep for BTC owners. A lot here on here don't even have LTC.


What is the point of to have ot not have LTC ?  Huh

About digging BTC ... well, the point is that with giving 10 KARPELES per BTC LOST with price 0.043 BTC/KARPELES (like is AURORACOIN  priced NOw,no when it was priced 0.25 BTC Smiley), people affected would cover ALMOST HALF OF BTC LOST BY MtGox.  Where is wrong with it?  Embarrassed
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it is completely serious

if 10 KARPELES were like 10 AURORACOIN, it would be 0.43 BTC.

With 10 KARPELES for each 1 BTC LOST, affected customers would covered 43% of FUNDS!!!

There is nothing to lose but the ability to recover a part of funds.

Why so incredulous??¿?¿??  Huh

recover supposedly 43% funds for the sake of looser's losses investing in this coin, nothing is for free, ah forgat to mention some coincloner is gonna become rich by this procedure, my bad.


That is the law of supply and demand; investors consciously purchase coins thinking into their own benefit; it is not illegitimate to use that law.

On the other side, MtGox affected could to recover a part of lost funds, (now this coverage is 0, so anything above this would be a substantial
improvement) what it is the goal of this coin. People losing or gaining coins is the colateral effect, and it is common to ALL COINS, IMHO.

Regards.
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only thing I liked about your coin is the coin logo picture.

thanks, at least it is a begining ...    Cheesy

please, check out more details at www.karpelescoin.org

it is a full set of advantages:

1) Affected will get a part of funds, there is nothing to lose

2) extra funds can be used in legal fees

3) people who wants to invest can purchansing KARPELES in IPO.

4) according to public opinion, Karpeles and MtGox will suffer a severe moral corrective
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it is completely serious

if 10 KARPELES were like 10 AURORACOIN, it would be 0.43 BTC.

With 10 KARPELES for each 1 BTC LOST, affected customers would covered 43% of FUNDS!!!

There is nothing to lose but the ability to recover a part of funds.

Why so incredulous??¿?¿??  Huh

recover supposedly 43% funds for the sake of looser's losses investing in this coin, nothing is for free, ah forgat to mention some coincloner is gonna become rich by this procedure, my bad.
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only thing I liked about your coin is the coin logo picture.
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it is completely serious

if 10 KARPELES were like 10 AURORACOIN, it would be 0.43 BTC.

With 10 KARPELES for each 1 BTC LOST, affected customers would covered 43% of FUNDS!!!

There is nothing to lose but the ability to recover a part of funds.

Why so incredulous??¿?¿??  Huh
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