Topic: [ANN][KARM] Karma / ₭ / X11 - page 87. (Read 583256 times)
why is this coin still a thing? we already got burnt on Karmashares and the coin. I got fucked bigtime. Just mark off your losses and let it die.
He didn`t wanted just the trademark. He wanted the coinholders also. Because for him we are just coinholders. Only both are working well for him. After he is gone and you see now what he was after, I hope will forgive me someday for being so rude here. This thread have suffered enough from bad behavior. Definitely that is not the KARMA way.
Wrong again p4r4m0un7 -- what we want are people and businesses who are willing to transact with the coin for KARMA-like purposes.
I don't know why you seem to conveniently keep ignoring that.
It must be because you do not want that -- and so you just don't like the answer because it doesn't support your hoarding and enriching yourself from pump-n-dump.
Please! If you have a good use case for what you've done for the community, let us all know! If you have something that is awesome, let's celebrate it and find ways to get others to do the same.
Because all I can see from your posts is that you're a troll -- all negative and no value add.
-dvd
PS: Our Trademark protects our rights to use the moniker. I don't see how in anyway that takes anything from you and your Kosmost owned Service Mark uses.
Oh boy. I guess it was that obvious that your interest was mainly on the trademark. I tried to see beyond that but i guess others were right. You cared mostly to secure them so you could continue with your own projects. Not so much interested in karma as a coin. needed the Karma trademark so you could advance with Strength in numbers.
That's not true. At all. Strength in Numbers has been supporting Clean Water Coin and offered the same level of support to Karma!
I don't blame you for going after what you wanted but you did rattled up our members here. Always one sentence pointing how karma is not working and 5 sentences how well your doing something for 2give and the other. It was so annoying to see that.
I have apologized to anyone who respectfully engages in dialogue and not personal attacks. If I have said anything that people do not want to hear, that's not my role. Karma today is "broken" because it only focuses on the "pump and dump" interaction between miners and investors. Everyone outside of this community recognizes that and that is why you are having a hard time inviting more people to use the coin.
Here is a content from the link you posted. :
Please do not do this. I hope your not going to stick around to keep gloating over your coins and ask people here to exchange coins. We do not need you to do that. I allowed you to talk about your other coins because it seems like you wanted to help out around here and i thought you were using them as reference.
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It's very early but here is what we are thinking:
1. 2Give would have a larger POS base of coins than Givecoin 1.0
2. Strength in Numbers Foundation (SNF) would offer an equitable exchange (example 2:1 or 3:1 depending on the new total supply) to all current Givecoin 1.0 holders -- those coins would be held in visible provable address for a period of time and then likely destroyed at the end of the exchange period (expected to be open for at least 90 days)
3. SNF could use additional blocks of coins to attract other coinbase holders to exchange their coins for 2Give -- for example, we could invite Karma holders to switch to 2Give since that is also recently changed to X11 based.
4. The plan to do the "2Give2Get" program where we would reward people for SENDING coins to new users means having a cache of coins to reward the senders.
1. 2Give would have a larger POS base of coins than Givecoin 1.0
2. Strength in Numbers Foundation (SNF) would offer an equitable exchange (example 2:1 or 3:1 depending on the new total supply) to all current Givecoin 1.0 holders -- those coins would be held in visible provable address for a period of time and then likely destroyed at the end of the exchange period (expected to be open for at least 90 days)
3. SNF could use additional blocks of coins to attract other coinbase holders to exchange their coins for 2Give -- for example, we could invite Karma holders to switch to 2Give since that is also recently changed to X11 based.
4. The plan to do the "2Give2Get" program where we would reward people for SENDING coins to new users means having a cache of coins to reward the senders.
Please do not do this. I hope your not going to stick around to keep gloating over your coins and ask people here to exchange coins. We do not need you to do that. I allowed you to talk about your other coins because it seems like you wanted to help out around here and i thought you were using them as reference.
I have no intention of trying to "steal" anything from the Karma community. If people want to voluntarily join us, that is their choice. I am a very humble person and do not GLOAT -- it serves no one's purpose. Pride can be an ugly sin.
We appreciate your concern with our coin but we can handle it. there is no need for you to come over here and help us out by doing nothing but downtalk karma and gloat on your projects.
Good luck with your services and projects.
ps: i have a feeling you misinterpret Kosmost trademarks. You probably are not fully on the clear. But please when you figure out that.pm kosmost. don't come back here pretending you want to help all over.
Good luck with your services and projects.
ps: i have a feeling you misinterpret Kosmost trademarks. You probably are not fully on the clear. But please when you figure out that.pm kosmost. don't come back here pretending you want to help all over.
I'm not downtalking Karma -- I have been trying very hard to help you understand that Karma needs a PURPOSE and a UTILITY in order to generate VALUE. Nothing has changed with that position.
Thank you for your encouraging words of support -- please let me know what you want me to do with the 1M Karma you sent to https://doabitofgood.com -- I am happy to make the donation to the #bit4bit fund in your name or return them, your choice.
And to be 100% clear -- 2Give is not meant to be the utility coin envisioned in our Trademark application. That is a part of the IDCoins project for Reputation.
And speaking of the Trademark -- we hired a law firm to do the work -- something no one here seems willing to do, so I'm quite confident in the value of ours versus the "Service Mark" for financial services that Kosmost owns. If you don't believe me please, go hire one yourself.
Like it or not, so long as Do a Bit of Good accepts and holds Karma, we are "Stakeholders" and have every right to represent our interests.
So let's keep this conversation peaceful out of respect please.
-dvd
He didn`t wanted just the trademark. He wanted the coinholders also. Because for him we are just coinholders. Only both are working well for him. After he is gone and you see now what he was after, I hope will forgive me someday for being so rude here. This thread have suffered enough from bad behavior. Definitely that is not the KARMA way.
Meanwhile, over in the 2Give channel:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9128511
Since things seem to have come to a complete standstill with Karma and moving forward with the Strength in Numbers Foundation offer to provide a home and funding, we're going to focus our efforts on completing 2Give.
As always feel free to use whatever ideas or code we develop!
As noted in that link above, we may offer an exchange for Karma holders at some point in the future, after we complete our 501.3c work.
Good luck guys!
Sincerely,
David V Duccini
Executive Director
Strength in Numbers Foundation
PS: I'll keep monitoring this channel and am happy to engage in respectful dialogue since we are now a de facto member of the community with the addition of full support for Karma on https://doabitofgood.com/bit4bit <3
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9128511
Since things seem to have come to a complete standstill with Karma and moving forward with the Strength in Numbers Foundation offer to provide a home and funding, we're going to focus our efforts on completing 2Give.
As always feel free to use whatever ideas or code we develop!
As noted in that link above, we may offer an exchange for Karma holders at some point in the future, after we complete our 501.3c work.
Good luck guys!
Sincerely,
David V Duccini
Executive Director
Strength in Numbers Foundation
PS: I'll keep monitoring this channel and am happy to engage in respectful dialogue since we are now a de facto member of the community with the addition of full support for Karma on https://doabitofgood.com/bit4bit <3
Oh boy. I guess it was that obvious that your interest was mainly on the trademark. I tried to see beyond that but i guess others were right. You cared mostly to secure them so you could continue with your own projects. Not so much interested in karma as a coin. needed the Karma trademark so you could advance with Strength in numbers.
I don't blame you for going after what you wanted but you did rattled up our members here. Always one sentence pointing how karma is not working and 5 sentences how well your doing something for 2give and the other. It was so annoying to see that.
Here is a content from the link you posted. :
Quote
It's very early but here is what we are thinking:
1. 2Give would have a larger POS base of coins than Givecoin 1.0
2. Strength in Numbers Foundation (SNF) would offer an equitable exchange (example 2:1 or 3:1 depending on the new total supply) to all current Givecoin 1.0 holders -- those coins would be held in visible provable address for a period of time and then likely destroyed at the end of the exchange period (expected to be open for at least 90 days)
3. SNF could use additional blocks of coins to attract other coinbase holders to exchange their coins for 2Give -- for example, we could invite Karma holders to switch to 2Give since that is also recently changed to X11 based.
4. The plan to do the "2Give2Get" program where we would reward people for SENDING coins to new users means having a cache of coins to reward the senders.
1. 2Give would have a larger POS base of coins than Givecoin 1.0
2. Strength in Numbers Foundation (SNF) would offer an equitable exchange (example 2:1 or 3:1 depending on the new total supply) to all current Givecoin 1.0 holders -- those coins would be held in visible provable address for a period of time and then likely destroyed at the end of the exchange period (expected to be open for at least 90 days)
3. SNF could use additional blocks of coins to attract other coinbase holders to exchange their coins for 2Give -- for example, we could invite Karma holders to switch to 2Give since that is also recently changed to X11 based.
4. The plan to do the "2Give2Get" program where we would reward people for SENDING coins to new users means having a cache of coins to reward the senders.
Please do not do this. I hope your not going to stick around to keep gloating over your coins and ask people here to exchange coins. We do not need you to do that. I allowed you to talk about your other coins because it seems like you wanted to help out around here and i thought you were using them as reference.
We appreciate your concern with our coin but we can handle it. there is no need for you to come over here and help us out by doing nothing but downtalk karma and gloat on your projects.
Good luck with your services and projects.
ps: i have a feeling you misinterpret Kosmost trademarks. You probably are not fully on the clear. But please when you figure out that.pm kosmost. don't come back here pretending you want to help all over.
Mhm, there is a ripple to karm market on Cryptsy. I have missed that. And BTW I am not very happy with Mintpal V2 interface. It is slightly bit more difficult to trade different coins ATM.
You're being too kind.....It's awful.
What are some other folks favorite exchanges?
lol
No sir. I am a scrapper. Usually I am trading 7-8 coins and earning from the differences between the exchanges. But ATM I don`t have the possibility to trade. So maybe this is the reason why I am not pi$$ed.
Moolah are capable I think and I am sure they will learn from the feedback. They just need to separate the FUD and trolling from the meaningful suggestions and ideas. Mhm, there is a ripple to karm market on Cryptsy. I have missed that. And BTW I am not very happy with Mintpal V2 interface. It is slightly bit more difficult to trade different coins ATM.
You're being too kind.....It's awful.
What are some other folks favorite exchanges?
Yea it's pretty bad. The ticker on the sidebar doesn't update either properly either. For instance, karma is currently going for 50 satoshis.... not.
Mhm, there is a ripple to karm market on Cryptsy. I have missed that. And BTW I am not very happy with Mintpal V2 interface. It is slightly bit more difficult to trade different coins ATM.
You're being too kind.....It's awful.
What are some other folks favorite exchanges?
Mhm, there is a ripple to karm market on Cryptsy. I have missed that. And BTW I am not very happy with Mintpal V2 interface. It is slightly bit more difficult to trade different coins ATM.
Thanks to all those who have shown support for our move to setup a sustainable funding source for Karma development, our 1 week IPO is a success.
To all those concerned some adjustments to our arrangements and future plans have been edited in the OP of https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9056235, please read them for your proper guidance an information. Thank you very much.
GL to all of us.
-east
Good news Duke.
Hopefully now you are comfortable to go ahead an opened up those karma services. can't wait to see what they will be
Hopefully now you are comfortable to go ahead an opened up those karma services. can't wait to see what they will be
+1
//snip//
And it turns out that the one Kosmost owns (serial number: 86253178) is actually a "Service Mark" for "Financial Services"
And it turns out that the one Kosmost owns (serial number: 86253178) is actually a "Service Mark" for "Financial Services"
Just a note.. a servicemark is a trademark to identify a service rather than a product. You have also registered a servicemark trademark (because a "reputation index" is not a product).
Although I am curious why you put your "first use" as being in 2009. I am sure that you aware any inaccurate information such as that invalidates the trademark in its entirety.
There are hundreds of classifications for any trademark. I registered in the classification that made the most sense. It's the same classification that the big cryptocurrencies use.
+1
//snip//
And it turns out that the one Kosmost owns (serial number: 86253178) is actually a "Service Mark" for "Financial Services"
And it turns out that the one Kosmost owns (serial number: 86253178) is actually a "Service Mark" for "Financial Services"
Just a note.. a servicemark is a trademark to identify a service rather than a product. You have also registered a servicemark trademark (because a "reputation index" is not a product).
Although I am curious why you put your "first use" as being in 2009. I am sure that you aware any inaccurate information such as that invalidates the trademark in its entirety.
There are hundreds of classifications for any trademark. I registered in the classification that made the most sense. It's the same classification that the big cryptocurrencies use.
Good news Duke.
Hopefully now you are comfortable to go ahead an opened up those karma services. can't wait to see what they will be
Hopefully now you are comfortable to go ahead an opened up those karma services. can't wait to see what they will be
This is a courtesy notification.
Just got word the USPTO has accepted our First Use/Commercial filing date of 02/12/2009 from our domain name karmatag.org as part of our Trademark application for use of "Karma", Serial Number: 86411963, which states:
KARMA, Goods and Services IC 009. US 021 023 026 036 038. G & S: Reputation index, namely, a score from providing electronic transfer of a virtual currency for use by members of an on-line community via a global computer network for the purposes of voting via feedback on each others contributions. FIRST USE: 20090212. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 20090212
And it turns out that the one Kosmost owns (serial number: 86253178) is actually a "Service Mark"
Just got word the USPTO has accepted our First Use/Commercial filing date of 02/12/2009 from our domain name karmatag.org as part of our Trademark application for use of "Karma", Serial Number: 86411963, which states:
KARMA, Goods and Services IC 009. US 021 023 026 036 038. G & S: Reputation index, namely, a score from providing electronic transfer of a virtual currency for use by members of an on-line community via a global computer network for the purposes of voting via feedback on each others contributions. FIRST USE: 20090212. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 20090212
And it turns out that the one Kosmost owns (serial number: 86253178) is actually a "Service Mark"
+1
Thank you DVD, that you have finally revealed what are you after. You could do it along time ago, instead of wasting your time here. The problem is, you won`t find Karmanians following you.
I'm not a fan of murder mystery style "slow reveals" -- I have been 110% transparent with everyone since the beginning...
What I am interested in is a coinbase that has UTILITY and VALUE outside of purely mining and investing -- I have been quite clear on that point.
Honestly I think the time spent chatting with all of you to be VERY useful -- even you -- despite the fact that you feel somehow threatened by my presence :-)
And if by "Karmanians" you mean miners and investors like yourself? You're probably right, even though you would be welcome to join in! I do not pretend to have all the answers and welcome a rich dialogue among the stakeholders.
What's really amusing about exchanges with people like you is that they pale in comparison to the private exchanges I'm having with people you think are "on your side" -- who are really excited to have a legitimate, fully transparent, funded organization with a mission to make something of ACTUAL value.
I bet if I ask them whether or not they think they are "one of you" -- they will recoil in horror at the thought that you speak for them on their behalf.
The beautiful thing about our Trademark is that we're free to remain coinbase agnostic in terms of implementation.
In fact we will be announcing a partnership soon with a video streaming provider that will be using our system to allow its members to up-vote content.
-dvd
This is a courtesy notification.
Just got word the USPTO has accepted our First Use/Commercial filing date of 02/12/2009 from our domain name karmatag.org as part of our Trademark application for use of "Karma", Serial Number: 86411963, which states:
KARMA, Goods and Services IC 009. US 021 023 026 036 038. G & S: Reputation index, namely, a score from providing electronic transfer of a virtual currency for use by members of an on-line community via a global computer network for the purposes of voting via feedback on each others contributions. FIRST USE: 20090212. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 20090212
And it turns out that the one Kosmost owns (serial number: 86253178) is actually a "Service Mark"
Just got word the USPTO has accepted our First Use/Commercial filing date of 02/12/2009 from our domain name karmatag.org as part of our Trademark application for use of "Karma", Serial Number: 86411963, which states:
KARMA, Goods and Services IC 009. US 021 023 026 036 038. G & S: Reputation index, namely, a score from providing electronic transfer of a virtual currency for use by members of an on-line community via a global computer network for the purposes of voting via feedback on each others contributions. FIRST USE: 20090212. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 20090212
And it turns out that the one Kosmost owns (serial number: 86253178) is actually a "Service Mark"
+1
Thank you DVD, that you have finally revealed what are you after. You could do it along time ago, instead of wasting your time here. The problem is, you won`t find Karmanians following you.
This is a courtesy notification.
Just got word the USPTO has accepted our First Use/Commercial filing date of 02/12/2009 from our domain name karmatag.org as part of our Trademark application for use of "Karma", Serial Number: 86411963, which states:
KARMA, Goods and Services IC 009. US 021 023 026 036 038. G & S: Reputation index, namely, a score from providing electronic transfer of a virtual currency for use by members of an on-line community via a global computer network for the purposes of voting via feedback on each others contributions. FIRST USE: 20090212. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 20090212
And it turns out that the one Kosmost owns (serial number: 86253178) is actually a "Service Mark"
Just got word the USPTO has accepted our First Use/Commercial filing date of 02/12/2009 from our domain name karmatag.org as part of our Trademark application for use of "Karma", Serial Number: 86411963, which states:
KARMA, Goods and Services IC 009. US 021 023 026 036 038. G & S: Reputation index, namely, a score from providing electronic transfer of a virtual currency for use by members of an on-line community via a global computer network for the purposes of voting via feedback on each others contributions. FIRST USE: 20090212. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 20090212
And it turns out that the one Kosmost owns (serial number: 86253178) is actually a "Service Mark"
+1
This is a courtesy notification.
Just got word the USPTO has accepted our First Use/Commercial filing date of 02/12/2009 from our domain name karmatag.org as part of our Trademark application for use of "Karma", Serial Number: 86411963, which states:
KARMA, Goods and Services IC 009. US 021 023 026 036 038. G & S: Reputation index, namely, a score from providing electronic transfer of a virtual currency for use by members of an on-line community via a global computer network for the purposes of voting via feedback on each others contributions. FIRST USE: 20090212. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 20090212
You can see the search results socialed out on Twitter here:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BzW8bYPCYAMAz7Q.png
And it turns out that the one Kosmost owns (serial number: 86253178) is actually a "Service Mark" for "Financial Services"
Just got word the USPTO has accepted our First Use/Commercial filing date of 02/12/2009 from our domain name karmatag.org as part of our Trademark application for use of "Karma", Serial Number: 86411963, which states:
KARMA, Goods and Services IC 009. US 021 023 026 036 038. G & S: Reputation index, namely, a score from providing electronic transfer of a virtual currency for use by members of an on-line community via a global computer network for the purposes of voting via feedback on each others contributions. FIRST USE: 20090212. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 20090212
You can see the search results socialed out on Twitter here:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BzW8bYPCYAMAz7Q.png
And it turns out that the one Kosmost owns (serial number: 86253178) is actually a "Service Mark" for "Financial Services"
Mintpal online....
Not hardly, I'm getting the invalid user/password stuff they spoke of earlier.
Calls for you to email support....okay I will. Me and the estimated 7,000 (their estimate) other users.
*sigh*
First thing I did was to reset my password, maybe you can also...
+1
worked for me
Also had to reset the password.
anyone been able to withdraw coins okay?
Yes
A ticking clock.
http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20141008T235959&p0=710&sg=End+of+IPO+week+%26+the+start+of+FIRST+PROFIT+DIVIDEND+PERIOD+of+nhzKARM+assets+holders&swk=1
And a list.
Send in your KARMA address thru NHZ wallet. Thanks
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