Who cares how many coins have the developers? Even if 99%. The value of the coins is not in the holders!
Topic: [ANN][LIBERTYCOIN][XLB] v1.0.3.0 | X11 | 100% POS | No IPO | No Premine | - page 53. (Read 359881 times)
May 29, 2014, 09:32:18 PM
May 29, 2014, 09:24:07 PM
Sadly the only thing that can save this coin is for Iconic to take it over.
You are basically passing a judgement under the garb of veiled and loosely put together logic and a vague sense of Bouzy-allegiance. I am not saying you are an alter ego of Bouzy but there is a difference between sparking a debate and blatant endorsement. This is the latter.
If you like iconic, go follow him to whatever his new coin is going to be. The community that he brought with him never was the Libertycoin community, and they are gone now. What remains is the real Libertycoin community. If that is not to your liking, you should move on.
Why the anger at me for giving my honest assessment? I put in good money and got left holding a bag just like everyone else here. My assessment was not one sided and was very fair. If you look at my history I have disagreed with Iconic on multiple occasions. I disagreed when he suggested the BC pump. I disagreed with how he handled the wall street donations. To label me a groupie and tell me to just follow him is rather narrow sighted. Read the history. History don't lie.
History lies ALL THE TIME! A nice recent example would be barabbas, who said exactly the same thing you just did. That he was one of IE's biggest critics. He also would invite people to check his history at every chance he could. Then IE posted screenshots of him and barabbas exchanging PMs. Turns out they were verified as being the same ip, so ya History lies all the time.
My main point howerver is that everyone accusing the Dev of being a dumper or not able to handle XLB, you gotta remember how this actually started, not the way people are spreading the story. The actual events leading up to Libertyday started off 24 hrs before when barabbas called for a hostile takeover of the coin, trying to give IE full Dev control. This was used to distract people for a while so IE could exit. He did it step by step the same way with BC.
Hindsight being what it is, I am forever going to stay faaaaar away from any coin with supporters like them. Im reading so much of their FUD lately that I have become very adept at spotting Iconic's style of writing, even when he changes it up to make it look like he doesn't speak english very well. That's right, I spotted you already. Just avaoid some of the new FUD spreaders, you are so transparent it's easy to see where it is coming from.
In summation:
The future of Liberty will be defined with adoption. We have to move this coin away from being used primarily as a method of accruing BTC and into a realm of being able to use XLB in the real world. That is where a coins staying power comes in. I am also looking into a fiat to XLB exchange with a system that encourages people to buy XLB rather than sell it. A reward system with points that could be used with merchants, or members of the community offering goods for points. I really think this will revolutionize XLB and make it something other than an exchange coin. I am welcome to everyone's suggestions of ways to improve upon the idea. Remember not just opening the fiat to XLB exchange, but making it something that people have a good incentive to WANT to do it. Make it a sweet deal or clever promoting and we can figure it out. (some) People here are brilliant!
Templar77, I fully support you and I am sorry that people are trying to blame you for this crap that went down. I dont give a shit at all who sold what, I've sold XLB at almost every price range. That is everyone's right! I also bought at almost every price range, so I still hold quite a bit. I know you do too so you still care about this coin. The fact that you are still around and trying to do things with the coin tells me all I need to know. A scammer would have just raged and come back repeatedly to spread FUD out of spite with fake accounts. You are still here updating us and that says a lot. Ignore the people spreading FUD and better yet, don't even entertain them with replies, it only feeds the trolls. The only way to make them go away is to stop feeding them.
Have a great day everyone, YAY!
Edit: also why people say the multipool was a scam? I got my payments. They don't pay out every day but they did pay out while I mined with them
some crap
May 29, 2014, 09:12:51 PM
We ready to invest in the development Libertycoin 150k $. Let the developer contacted us.
May 29, 2014, 09:10:45 PM
Sadly the only thing that can save this coin is for Iconic to take it over.
You are basically passing a judgement under the garb of veiled and loosely put together logic and a vague sense of Bouzy-allegiance. I am not saying you are an alter ego of Bouzy but there is a difference between sparking a debate and blatant endorsement. This is the latter.
If you like iconic, go follow him to whatever his new coin is going to be. The community that he brought with him never was the Libertycoin community, and they are gone now. What remains is the real Libertycoin community. If that is not to your liking, you should move on.
Why the anger at me for giving my honest assessment? I put in good money and got left holding a bag just like everyone else here. My assessment was not one sided and was very fair. If you look at my history I have disagreed with Iconic on multiple occasions. I disagreed when he suggested the BC pump. I disagreed with how he handled the wall street donations. To label me a groupie and tell me to just follow him is rather narrow sighted. Read the history. History don't lie.
History lies ALL THE TIME! A nice recent example would be barabbas, who said exactly the same thing you just did. That he was one of IE's biggest critics. He also would invite people to check his history at every chance he could. Then IE posted screenshots of him and barabbas exchanging PMs. Turns out they were verified as being the same ip, so ya History lies all the time.
My main point howerver is that everyone accusing the Dev of being a dumper or not able to handle XLB, you gotta remember how this actually started, not the way people are spreading the story. The actual events leading up to Libertyday started off 24 hrs before when barabbas called for a hostile takeover of the coin, trying to give IE full Dev control. This was used to distract people for a while so IE could exit. He did it step by step the same way with BC.
Hindsight being what it is, I am forever going to stay faaaaar away from any coin with supporters like them. Im reading so much of their FUD lately that I have become very adept at spotting Iconic's style of writing, even when he changes it up to make it look like he doesn't speak english very well. That's right, I spotted you already. Just avaoid some of the new FUD spreaders, you are so transparent it's easy to see where it is coming from.
In summation:
The future of Liberty will be defined with adoption. We have to move this coin away from being used primarily as a method of accruing BTC and into a realm of being able to use XLB in the real world. That is where a coins staying power comes in. I am also looking into a fiat to XLB exchange with a system that encourages people to buy XLB rather than sell it. A reward system with points that could be used with merchants, or members of the community offering goods for points. I really think this will revolutionize XLB and make it something other than an exchange coin. I am welcome to everyone's suggestions of ways to improve upon the idea. Remember not just opening the fiat to XLB exchange, but making it something that people have a good incentive to WANT to do it. Make it a sweet deal or clever promoting and we can figure it out. (some) People here are brilliant!
Templar77, I fully support you and I am sorry that people are trying to blame you for this crap that went down. I dont give a shit at all who sold what, I've sold XLB at almost every price range. That is everyone's right! I also bought at almost every price range, so I still hold quite a bit. I know you do too so you still care about this coin. The fact that you are still around and trying to do things with the coin tells me all I need to know. A scammer would have just raged and come back repeatedly to spread FUD out of spite with fake accounts. You are still here updating us and that says a lot. Ignore the people spreading FUD and better yet, don't even entertain them with replies, it only feeds the trolls. The only way to make them go away is to stop feeding them.
Have a great day everyone, YAY!
Edit: also why people say the multipool was a scam? I got my payments. They don't pay out every day but they did pay out while I mined with them
May 29, 2014, 09:10:24 PM
Here's a thought, so let's just say the coin is dead. Due to XLB's name and fundamentals, how hard would it be for the community and new DEV/coder to pick up where it was left off? At this point, we can all make a difference. Sure, the community is slightly tainted and battered, but like I've said before, the most successful people in the world have experienced failure at one point or another.
So the question is, how do we stand up and move forward?
If needed, could we take over ownership? Not to make this a coup or to take anything away from the DEV, he obviously still has coins, and since maybe he has other projects or is preoccupied with other dreams, maybe we can sweeten the pot for him. Regardless of what his initial intentions were.
Think how we can join forces and really make a difference now.
So the question is, how do we stand up and move forward?
If needed, could we take over ownership? Not to make this a coup or to take anything away from the DEV, he obviously still has coins, and since maybe he has other projects or is preoccupied with other dreams, maybe we can sweeten the pot for him. Regardless of what his initial intentions were.
Think how we can join forces and really make a difference now.
May 29, 2014, 09:05:51 PM
看来还有人相信作者不是骗子，呵呵~
May 29, 2014, 09:05:05 PM
Iconic Amateur-You've been the most prevalent poster here in recent days and the verdict is in, you don't like IE and I can respect peoples opinions of others. I do think that the race part needs to lay to rest just out of respect. With that said, if you are also here to maybe assist in the revival of XLB, what do you think are the next steps?
Just so you know, I was in XLB from very early and lost quite a bit as many others here. Like almost all so I'm here since well, what else do I have to lose.
I know us investors and believers are mad, but let's not assume and speculate, out of anger, until real facts are laid out on whether a specific individual (s) are at fault or if anon can be accomplished by 6/1.
And Asceric, you don't have to retire 'YAY'
Just so you know, I was in XLB from very early and lost quite a bit as many others here. Like almost all so I'm here since well, what else do I have to lose.
I know us investors and believers are mad, but let's not assume and speculate, out of anger, until real facts are laid out on whether a specific individual (s) are at fault or if anon can be accomplished by 6/1.
And Asceric, you don't have to retire 'YAY'
May 29, 2014, 08:36:36 PM
Btw volume is volume - whether comments on this forum or trading volume itself. BOTH show interest in the coin, no matter what is said. Deleting any posts presents less interest and less interest is all this coin needs to die.
May 29, 2014, 08:36:09 PM
Carlos/Templar77:
Libertycoin was not premined so accusing us (the dev team) about 'dumping' is clearly nonsense.
Barabbas:
No Carlitos, the gig is up, the scam has been uncovered, boy: You and loljosh scammed this community through the pool that didn't pay the people mining. The charges have been made already in the other forum and you know very well they are true. You and your pal loljosh, scammed and continue scamming this community. 3 million coins? probably more. And I don't know if you two dumped on Liberty Day but sure as hell I know you were massively dumping BEFORE. I personally located 3 wallets that were emptied of their 1.3 million coins. And change. Only you and loljosh could have such amount of coins when the biggest exchange had no more than 450k and no other holders were significantly above 400K each. You and loljosh were and are dumping all of your 3 million coins and probably much more.
That's hove you scammed and continue scamming this community, "amigo".
Now hurry up to erase this one, ok? maybe it will disappear, although my guess is that it will forever be a reminder of what you and your pal loljosh do and that you have done already to a bunch others like Grumpycoin, Universitycoin and quite a few others. The trail is all there, for people to follow, before the put a penny more on your "enterprises", your "pools", your "exchanges" your "coin creation (copy/paste hackjobs) 'busines'", etc. Even the only thing you know a little bit about, graphic design, no one will ever want remotely close to you of loljosh---whose real name will also be uncovered soon, to go along with el mejicanito, you, Carlos R. Torres Ferguson, the student of la ITAM in Mexico DF.
Libertycoin was not premined so accusing us (the dev team) about 'dumping' is clearly nonsense.
Barabbas:
No Carlitos, the gig is up, the scam has been uncovered, boy: You and loljosh scammed this community through the pool that didn't pay the people mining. The charges have been made already in the other forum and you know very well they are true. You and your pal loljosh, scammed and continue scamming this community. 3 million coins? probably more. And I don't know if you two dumped on Liberty Day but sure as hell I know you were massively dumping BEFORE. I personally located 3 wallets that were emptied of their 1.3 million coins. And change. Only you and loljosh could have such amount of coins when the biggest exchange had no more than 450k and no other holders were significantly above 400K each. You and loljosh were and are dumping all of your 3 million coins and probably much more.
That's hove you scammed and continue scamming this community, "amigo".
Now hurry up to erase this one, ok? maybe it will disappear, although my guess is that it will forever be a reminder of what you and your pal loljosh do and that you have done already to a bunch others like Grumpycoin, Universitycoin and quite a few others. The trail is all there, for people to follow, before the put a penny more on your "enterprises", your "pools", your "exchanges" your "coin creation (copy/paste hackjobs) 'busines'", etc. Even the only thing you know a little bit about, graphic design, no one will ever want remotely close to you of loljosh---whose real name will also be uncovered soon, to go along with el mejicanito, you, Carlos R. Torres Ferguson, the student of la ITAM in Mexico DF.
good job you just proved you're ie! LOL i believe the only person to know his full name was IE from personal messages you posted on you're other account with blacked out marks on his last name
May 29, 2014, 08:20:55 PM
I'm pretty sure we're all involved to try and gain some profit. If someone says they're not here to make money, they're lying. Well I've lost a significant amount of money and I'd like to thank all you psychologically damaged individuals who think you're so smart, outwitting each other. When really you're just outwitting yourselves.
I don't know if anyone's noticed, but there are almost zero buyers left. I can see now that this incredibly stupid behaviour has killed this coin.
You can read irc all you want. With no buyers there is obviously no profit.
All involved in these childish acts of revenge are to blame. You guys must all have some serious issues in real life. This is what our culture is full of now. A bunch of insecure people trying to prove their worth. Pathetic!
I don't know if anyone's noticed, but there are almost zero buyers left. I can see now that this incredibly stupid behaviour has killed this coin.
You can read irc all you want. With no buyers there is obviously no profit.
All involved in these childish acts of revenge are to blame. You guys must all have some serious issues in real life. This is what our culture is full of now. A bunch of insecure people trying to prove their worth. Pathetic!
May 29, 2014, 08:00:05 PM
crap
Lol, BOuzy is now using the barabbas alter ego to autopost and regurgitate the same crap! To hell with the subtle sarcasm and extreme wordplay now
, just copy paste and auto post.Christopher Bouzy, you nigerian scammer, you are losing it dude.
I seriously just want to swear at you profusely and then punch you in your face again. Congrats. I had started to appreciate your calm and composed posts the last 24hrs, but now you're back on this stupid IE rampage and reciting your nigerian scammer stuff again. What purpose does this serve other than drag out a fight between you two and clutter up an already cluttered thread with irrelevant personal attacks?
I'm sure tons of other people who have been trying to follow this thread for news on the coins development are sick of your crusade as well, and for the ones that want more of it, just make a thread and post a link here where you can keep everyone up to date on your quest for justice/revenge/whatever. Just stop posting multiple times on one page with trolling comments. This thread is about Liberty coin, not "OMG guyz this dude is total scammer. LOL look what he just said now!1!!"
Uggh. I just turned 31 last Sunday and to me it feels like I'm dealing with angry pre-teens on a Justin Bieber forum.
May 29, 2014, 07:47:10 PM
To my troll friends from BC. Your ever burning hate consumes you and it shows. Get over it, BC is my past. Following me around a forum is not going to bring you closure, it just shows how needy you are for resolution. Each time you hold and use your BC cards you are holding something I created and it pisses you off. I will always be a part of BC whether you like it or not so the joke is on you
Trolls for XLB. People were only here supporting this coin because I was here, period. When I left, they all left. This coin is dead and anyone buying XLB is either stupid and/or greedy. There will not be a comeback or a resurrection because the dev never intended for this coin to succeed. We were ALL scammed including me, and now I will move on.
Trolls for XLB. People were only here supporting this coin because I was here, period. When I left, they all left. This coin is dead and anyone buying XLB is either stupid and/or greedy. There will not be a comeback or a resurrection because the dev never intended for this coin to succeed. We were ALL scammed including me, and now I will move on.
Why is he still here? Move on, I.E.
He can't wait to add another pair of skinny jeans to his wardrobe. I hope he uses the $50 that he scammed off of me to buy this gray pair. Go get em cowboy !
Christopher Bouzy (IE and other alter egos) spending the money he stole from the BC community
May 29, 2014, 07:26:00 PM
I'm not panicking, I'm throwing up laughing to make room for more popcorn. Long term view? Are you serious?
I am serious. Have some patience and visit IRC more.
You fail to understand - still - that IRC is not the public face of Libertycoin.
No-one except insiders and dev followers are in there. Not the public, not investors, not angry people who lost money.
This thread is is your public face.
And you've just poluted it even further by posting racist comments and deleting posts which Libertycoin user said would NOT be done now that IE has left.
People are throwing you more and more wood for the bonfire that you lit, and you keep throwing on petrol. Can't you see that?
How can you be trusted?
Seriously, post something useful and trustworthy and you may get heard. But this mindless drivel is causing XLB to hemmorhage.
Maybe the flames have burned out your eyes?
May 29, 2014, 07:16:56 PM
I'm not panicking, I'm throwing up laughing to make room for more popcorn. Long term view? Are you serious?
I am serious. Have some patience and visit IRC more.
May 29, 2014, 07:14:50 PM
IconicAmateur, with this censorship, your posts gonna be the only posts here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwQKLq4pHzY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwQKLq4pHzY
lol, yeah, kinda weird. Will step out for a bit, hopefully the community will catch up.
May 29, 2014, 07:14:31 PM
GUYS,
we might need a new logo since the last logo is made by Christopher Bouzy, and he can come back anytime and claim ownership or some shit like that.
How about a fresh start?
we might need a new logo since the last logo is made by Christopher Bouzy, and he can come back anytime and claim ownership or some shit like that.
How about a fresh start?
You still fail to understand damage limitation IconicAmateur, despite my warnings.
Well done, under 1800 and falling.
Stop Panicking, and take a more long term view. Will help everyone.
I'm not panicking, I'm throwing up laughing to make room for more popcorn. Long term view? Are you serious?
May 29, 2014, 07:12:25 PM
Make that 3 months or more, please. But in case you want free reins, you can post your racist filth in THE CASE OF LIBVERTYCOIN thread. No one will delete it there. I contyrol it and total freedom of speech is guaranteed by me.
lol, it will take you 3 months to make your own coin Bouzy? Come on, you can do better.
edit: better be less than 3 months Bouzy, whoisiconicexpert.com is going up pretty soon.
May 29, 2014, 07:11:17 PM
GUYS,
we might need a new logo since the last logo is made by Christopher Bouzy, and he can come back anytime and claim ownership or some shit like that.
How about a fresh start?
we might need a new logo since the last logo is made by Christopher Bouzy, and he can come back anytime and claim ownership or some shit like that.
How about a fresh start?
You still fail to understand damage limitation IconicAmateur, despite my warnings.
Well done, under 1800 and falling.
Stop Panicking, and take a more long term view. Will help everyone.
May 29, 2014, 07:09:52 PM
GUYS,
we might need a new logo since the last logo is made by Christopher Bouzy, and he can come back anytime and claim ownership or some shit like that.
How about a fresh start?
we might need a new logo since the last logo is made by Christopher Bouzy, and he can come back anytime and claim ownership or some shit like that.
How about a fresh start?
You still fail to understand damage limitation IconicAmateur, despite my warnings.
Well done, under 1800 and falling.
May 29, 2014, 07:07:25 PM
GUYS,
we might need a new logo since the last logo is made by Christopher Bouzy, and he can come back anytime and claim ownership or some shit like that.
How about a fresh start?
we might need a new logo since the last logo is made by Christopher Bouzy, and he can come back anytime and claim ownership or some shit like that.
How about a fresh start?
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