Is raspberry the best to run a delegate?
Im sorry if a ask silly things but my english is a bit poor.
Im spanish btw
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March 23, 2016, 06:37:12 AM
March 23, 2016, 06:36:12 AM
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March 23, 2016, 06:31:33 AM
The problem is that many home ISPs have slow latency. This is different from bandwidth.
IMHO, Oliver needs to publish ASAP some latency standards that an Active Delegate must meet before we get a lot of disappointed people who want to run a Lisk node from their home, but can't.
Are there some way to ckeck this latency? IMHO, Oliver needs to publish ASAP some latency standards that an Active Delegate must meet before we get a lot of disappointed people who want to run a Lisk node from their home, but can't.
https://www.google.com/search?num=100&site=&source=hp&q=ISP+latency+test&oq=ISP+latency+test
We need to establish a standard test protocol for Lisk.
March 23, 2016, 06:30:49 AM
I totally agree. I am certainly not saying everybody should use Vultr just because I do. Digital Ocean is another possibility. People should speak up with other host suggestions.
You know how it is. You say Vultr a few times and anyone who just had the idea that he wants to run a delegate, will just go to Vultr.Maybe we should make a list of possible providers 10-20 of them. (Of course in this case ppl just choose the first one one the list. )
The lsit could be kept up to date with additionla notes, like how many uses it for delegates, what special setup requirements they have, etc.
The best situation is for Lisk to be running on 101 different Raspberry Pi 2s owned by 101 individual people connected by their home ISP.
The problem is that many home ISPs have slow latency. This is different from bandwidth.
Agreed, but other then latency uptime is also more of an issue with with home connection/computer.The problem is that many home ISPs have slow latency. This is different from bandwidth.
For example I have a very good internet connection and a spare Liva mini PC that is more than up to the task. However my router sometimes decides to disconnect from the internet for no reason, and stay that way until restarted.
Not ideal for delegate. (But I'm thinking about setting up as a second delegate just to test it how uptime affected long term. If there is no other issue I may just replace that stupid router. )
March 23, 2016, 06:27:23 AM
I am going to maintain a node as well hope for your support guys . I opend a Thread where you can discuss how i should maintain and handle it , every suggestion is helpfull.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14290437
Some information about me i was a Crypti investor and now big Lisk supporter from Day One. I have 3 years of experience with Crypto and live in Germany.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14290437
Some information about me i was a Crypti investor and now big Lisk supporter from Day One. I have 3 years of experience with Crypto and live in Germany.
March 23, 2016, 06:26:02 AM
If someone recommends X provider here and half of the delegates end up using that provider that would make Lisk much more vulnerable than if everyone found their own solution.
More than this: All nodes might be end up in the same country and that's not in our interest, I guess. So everyone should find a professional hoster in his/hers country and run it there. Or just take a look on the Lisk network when it's up and pick a country where a node is needed.
March 23, 2016, 06:25:20 AM
I totally agree. I am certainly not saying everybody should use Vultr just because I do. Digital Ocean is another possibility. People should speak up with other host suggestions.
The best situation is for Lisk to be running on 101 standardized-setup Raspberry Pi 2s, owned by 101 individual people all over the world, connected to that person's home ISP.
The problem is that many home ISPs have slow latency. This is different from bandwidth.
IMHO, Oliver needs to publish ASAP some latency standards that an Active Delegate must meet before we get a lot of disappointed people who want to run a Lisk node from their home, but can't.
I'm curious on this.
Are there some way to ckeck this latency?
If we can't run a "homemade" node because of this fact, maybe we have to go deep in a cloud solution and, altough you can split the risk between several providers, it's still dangerous for the lisk blockchain.
TRH
March 23, 2016, 06:19:10 AM
So far I have following BCT forum people on my voting list:
PunkRock, Emerge, cannabanana, bigcabrito, nextgencrypto, cc001, bitseedmike, TheRedHawk, Splatters, Mrboot
Who else? Who wants my vote and will give me their vote?
I ran a Crypti node for $5/month at Vultr.com for many months and plan to start running a Lisk node next month, again at Vultr.
PunkRock, Emerge, cannabanana, bigcabrito, nextgencrypto, cc001, bitseedmike, TheRedHawk, Splatters, Mrboot
Who else? Who wants my vote and will give me their vote?
I ran a Crypti node for $5/month at Vultr.com for many months and plan to start running a Lisk node next month, again at Vultr.
You can expect my feedback for sure Mal.
You're doing a great job here!
TRH
March 23, 2016, 06:15:40 AM
One thing if we are discussing delegates.
We shouldn't really promote any one cloud service that's good for running delegates.
It would be best for Lisk if the delegates would use as many different services as possible.
If someone recommends X provider here and half of the delegates end up using that provider that would make Lisk much more vulnerable than if everyone found their own solution.
We shouldn't really promote any one cloud service that's good for running delegates.
It would be best for Lisk if the delegates would use as many different services as possible.
If someone recommends X provider here and half of the delegates end up using that provider that would make Lisk much more vulnerable than if everyone found their own solution.
I was thinking the same.
It's to risky having several delegates in a centralized server.
50/101 on Vultr would be soooo risky for my taste.
Maybe ~20... But, I simply prefer almost 100% decentralized delegates.
TRH
I totally agree. I am certainly not saying everybody should use Vultr just because I do. Digital Ocean is another possibility. People should speak up with other host suggestions.
The best situation is for Lisk to be running on 101 standardized-setup Raspberry Pi 2s, owned by 101 individual people all over the world, connected to that person's home ISP.
The problem is that many home ISPs have slow latency. This is different from bandwidth. Coordinating 101 Lisk nodes in a ten second blocktime doesn't require high bandwidth, it requires low latency.
http://www.dslreports.com/faq/694
http://www.speedtest.net/articles/what-is-ping-what-is-latency/
IMHO, Oliver needs to publish some latency standards ASAP that an Active Delegate must meet before we get a lot of disappointed people that are planning to run a Lisk node from their home, but can't.
(This is of course in addition to the other 10,000 things Oliver needs to do ASAP
) March 23, 2016, 06:13:22 AM
Guys let's talk dapps. Those are the products that can make Lisk jump over and above all other cryptos.
I was thinking about games, mobile games to be specific. Which kind of games would be made better due to them being a dapp instead of an app? The mobile gaming market is trilion dollar industry with their micro payments. If we can tap into that then a billion dollar market cap will be a breeze...
I was thinking about games, mobile games to be specific. Which kind of games would be made better due to them being a dapp instead of an app? The mobile gaming market is trilion dollar industry with their micro payments. If we can tap into that then a billion dollar market cap will be a breeze...
March 23, 2016, 06:11:12 AM
One thing if we are discussing delegates.
We shouldn't really promote any one cloud service that's good for running delegates.
It would be best for Lisk if the delegates would use as many different services as possible.
If someone recommends X provider here and half of the delegates end up using that provider that would make Lisk much more vulnerable than if everyone found their own solution.
We shouldn't really promote any one cloud service that's good for running delegates.
It would be best for Lisk if the delegates would use as many different services as possible.
If someone recommends X provider here and half of the delegates end up using that provider that would make Lisk much more vulnerable than if everyone found their own solution.
I was thinking the same.
It's to risky having several delegates in a centralized server.
50/101 on Vultr would be soooo risky for my taste.
Maybe ~20... But, I simply prefer almost 100% decentralized delegates.
TRH
March 23, 2016, 06:09:28 AM
Why u looking for votes guys?
One person can vote to himself many times cant he??
I also would like to run a no de but it seems imposible
One person can vote to himself many times cant he??
I also would like to run a no de but it seems imposible
If it seems impossible, then you do not understand the DPoS delegate system.
Anybody can set up a Lisk node once they pay the 100 Lisk registration fee. This includes you.
Once your node is set up, it joins a pool of Standby Delegates. This Standby Delegate pool can have 10,000 nodes by 10,000 people. This includes you.
The 101 Standby Delegates who receive the most votes from others are promoted to Active Delegate. The number of votes you can cast depends on the number of Lisk you have. People with lots of Lisk have lots of votes.
The 101 Active Delegates begin to forge Lisk blocks every ten seconds and add these blocks to the Lisk blockchain. Block adding is done in a cooperative manner by "going in a circle". Your Active Delegate will be called upon to add a block when your turn comes about once every 17 minutes.
Lisk will start with 101 Lisk Foundation nodes run by Oliver. As more and more community members become Active Delegates, they will replace the Lisk Foundation nodes one-by-one until only community nodes are running.
If you contribute a lot at this forum with good posts and good ideas and good words, you will gain the trust of others, and their votes. So if you want to become an Active Delegate, start contributing!
March 23, 2016, 06:06:49 AM
If you are not quite sure what makes a good long term delegate for Lisk, I'd recommend talking to the guys over at BitShares. As the creators of DPOS, their community learned a lot of lessons along the way.
March 23, 2016, 05:57:29 AM
Why not, I'm throwing my hat in the ring for delegate voting.
I also agree to share a percentage towards the community(faucets, giveaways, pr...)
I also agree to share a percentage towards the community(faucets, giveaways, pr...)
March 23, 2016, 05:55:01 AM
One thing if we are discussing delegates.
We shouldn't really promote any one cloud service that's good for running delegates.
It would be best for Lisk if the delegates would use as many different services as possible.
If someone recommends X provider here and half of the delegates end up using that provider that would make Lisk much more vulnerable than if everyone found their own solution.
We shouldn't really promote any one cloud service that's good for running delegates.
It would be best for Lisk if the delegates would use as many different services as possible.
If someone recommends X provider here and half of the delegates end up using that provider that would make Lisk much more vulnerable than if everyone found their own solution.
I agree on that if about 50 of the 101 are on vultr network that wont be beneficial, although they can have diffrent locations.
March 23, 2016, 05:47:24 AM
One thing if we are discussing delegates.
We shouldn't really promote any one cloud service that's good for running delegates.
It would be best for Lisk if the delegates would use as many different services as possible.
If someone recommends X provider here and half of the delegates end up using that provider that would make Lisk much more vulnerable than if everyone found their own solution.
We shouldn't really promote any one cloud service that's good for running delegates.
It would be best for Lisk if the delegates would use as many different services as possible.
If someone recommends X provider here and half of the delegates end up using that provider that would make Lisk much more vulnerable than if everyone found their own solution.
March 23, 2016, 05:45:52 AM
Why u looking for votes guys?
One person can vote to himself many times cant he??
I also would like to run a no de but it seems imposible
One person can vote to himself many times cant he??
I also would like to run a no de but it seems imposible
You can vote for more then one!
So far I have following BCT forum people on my voting list:
PunkRock, Emerge, cannabanana, bigcabrito, nextgencrypto, cc001, bitseedmike, TheRedHawk, Splatters, Mrboot
Who else? Who wants my vote and will give me their vote?
I ran a Crypti node for $5/month at Vultr.com for many months and plan to start running a Lisk node next month, again at Vultr.
Are we really doing this? I through we have time to sort this out, but sure. I'm also planning to run a delegate.PunkRock, Emerge, cannabanana, bigcabrito, nextgencrypto, cc001, bitseedmike, TheRedHawk, Splatters, Mrboot
Who else? Who wants my vote and will give me their vote?
I ran a Crypti node for $5/month at Vultr.com for many months and plan to start running a Lisk node next month, again at Vultr.
Why not ambition is good, and nice you are just you should also say what you would attribute otherwise it will be hard to obtain votes.
So far I have following BCT forum people on my voting list:
PunkRock, Emerge, cannabanana, bigcabrito, nextgencrypto, cc001, bitseedmike, TheRedHawk, Splatters, Mrboot
Who else? Who wants my vote and will give me their vote?
I ran a Crypti node for $5/month at Vultr.com for many months and plan to start running a Lisk node next month, again at Vultr.
PunkRock, Emerge, cannabanana, bigcabrito, nextgencrypto, cc001, bitseedmike, TheRedHawk, Splatters, Mrboot
Who else? Who wants my vote and will give me their vote?
I ran a Crypti node for $5/month at Vultr.com for many months and plan to start running a Lisk node next month, again at Vultr.
Your involvement already shown you would be a good delegate, so you have my vote.
Is there some kind of tutorial to setup a Lisknode at Vultr? I am interested in learning/ contributing by being a delegate if needed.
Im setting up one this week as a test if i succeed (ofcourse i will) you can contact me as Bacobob on the chat i can help you set-up one.
March 23, 2016, 05:42:52 AM
So far I have following BCT forum people on my voting list:
PunkRock, Emerge, cannabanana, bigcabrito, nextgencrypto, cc001, bitseedmike, TheRedHawk, Splatters, Mrboot
Who else? Who wants my vote and will give me their vote?
I ran a Crypti node for $5/month at Vultr.com for many months and plan to start running a Lisk node next month, again at Vultr.
PunkRock, Emerge, cannabanana, bigcabrito, nextgencrypto, cc001, bitseedmike, TheRedHawk, Splatters, Mrboot
Who else? Who wants my vote and will give me their vote?
I ran a Crypti node for $5/month at Vultr.com for many months and plan to start running a Lisk node next month, again at Vultr.
Your involvement already shown you would be a good delegate, so you have my vote.
Is there some kind of tutorial to setup a Lisknode at Vultr? I am interested in learning/ contributing by being a delegate if needed.
March 23, 2016, 05:41:36 AM
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March 23, 2016, 05:38:43 AM
So far I have following BCT forum people on my voting list:
PunkRock, Emerge, cannabanana, bigcabrito, nextgencrypto, cc001, bitseedmike, TheRedHawk, Splatters, Mrboot
Who else? Who wants my vote and will give me their vote?
I ran a Crypti node for $5/month at Vultr.com for many months and plan to start running a Lisk node next month, again at Vultr.
Are we really doing this? I through we have time to sort this out, but sure. I'm also planning to run a delegate. PunkRock, Emerge, cannabanana, bigcabrito, nextgencrypto, cc001, bitseedmike, TheRedHawk, Splatters, Mrboot
Who else? Who wants my vote and will give me their vote?
I ran a Crypti node for $5/month at Vultr.com for many months and plan to start running a Lisk node next month, again at Vultr.
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