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Hey Guys

I will run a delegate Node cc001, I hope I get your votes! Who else will run one an who is planning to vote for whom?

So far I have following people on my voting list:

MalReynolds, PunkRock, Emerge, cannabanana, bigcabrito? nextgencrypto

who else? who wants my vote and gives me his vote?   Wink

I'll give you a vote!  I'll be running as "nextgencrypto".

Stability is the key!

added you Smiley

added you both

I'll be running one as well.
added Smiley
hero member
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I will vote for a delegate who splits the profit or a part of it with the people who vote for him/her.

Did the same at NXT.

Any takers. Cool
legendary
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Hey Guys

I will run a delegate Node cc001, I hope I get your votes! Who else will run one an who is planning to vote for whom?

So far I have following people on my voting list:

MalReynolds, PunkRock, Emerge, cannabanana, bigcabrito? nextgencrypto

who else? who wants my vote and gives me his vote?   Wink

I'll give you a vote!  I'll be running as "nextgencrypto".

Stability is the key!

added you Smiley

added you both

I'll be running one as well.

Ah yes, Bitseedmike, I've also had you in my mind for some time Smiley
Will be voting for you along with my other few picks
full member
Activity: 164
Merit: 100
Hey Guys

I will run a delegate Node cc001, I hope I get your votes! Who else will run one an who is planning to vote for whom?

So far I have following people on my voting list:

MalReynolds, PunkRock, Emerge, cannabanana, bigcabrito? nextgencrypto

who else? who wants my vote and gives me his vote?   Wink

I'll give you a vote!  I'll be running as "nextgencrypto".

Stability is the key!

added you Smiley

added you both

Please someone tell me what is delegate Node and what is votes? Same like masternodes? Any link? Delegate node can earn LISKs?

Thank you!

Jep, the delegate nodes maintain the network, they forge the blocks, similar to the miners in bitcoin, but without the hunger for resources.
Only the 101 highest voted nodes become active delegates.
Check this out: https://lisk.io/documentation?i=lisk-handbooks/DelegateHandbook
sr. member
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Hey Guys

I will run a delegate Node cc001, I hope I get your votes! Who else will run one an who is planning to vote for whom?

So far I have following people on my voting list:

MalReynolds, PunkRock, Emerge, cannabanana, bigcabrito? nextgencrypto

who else? who wants my vote and gives me his vote?   Wink

I'll give you a vote!  I'll be running as "nextgencrypto".

Stability is the key!

added you Smiley

added you both

I'll be running one as well.
hero member
Activity: 798
Merit: 1000
Hey Guys

I will run a delegate Node cc001, I hope I get your votes! Who else will run one an who is planning to vote for whom?

So far I have following people on my voting list:

MalReynolds, PunkRock, Emerge, cannabanana, bigcabrito? nextgencrypto

who else? who wants my vote and gives me his vote?   Wink

I'll give you a vote!  I'll be running as "nextgencrypto".

Stability is the key!

added you Smiley

added you both

Please someone tell me what is delegate Node and what is votes? Same like masternodes? Any link? Delegate node can earn LISKs?

Thank you!
hero member
Activity: 518
Merit: 501
Hey Guys

I will run a delegate Node cc001, I hope I get your votes! Who else will run one an who is planning to vote for whom?

So far I have following people on my voting list:

MalReynolds, PunkRock, Emerge, cannabanana, bigcabrito? nextgencrypto

who else? who wants my vote and gives me his vote?   Wink

I'll give you a vote!  I'll be running as "nextgencrypto".

Stability is the key!

added you Smiley

added you both
newbie
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Merit: 0
At the rate bankers are jumping out Windows and the cabal's failure to hijack Syria's banking system and oil,  I wouldn't use USD to hedge value at this point in time.   Gold fluctuates, but retains value through the ages.
sr. member
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What was the final price per coin?
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I'm a full stack developer and a early investor (2nd week). I like Lisk because of  JavaScript as main language. I have just started looking at the dapp development, noticed some serious security concerns with dapp development.

My understanding with dapps is (correct me if I'm wrong), a dapp is hostable component that exposes an http external api and is capable of doing some transactions (withdrawals and deposits). Every dapp can be hosted within in some sidechain. Users can access dapp functionality with the help of exposed api by passing secret and transaction info. It means you have to pass your pass phrase to every dapp you want to do a transaction lets say a withdrawal (paying to dapp owners).

Apple, Microsoft, and google stores are centralized. Every app has to go rigorous review process before getting published in stores ( I published few apps in google and windows stores). The review process mainly includes scanning for malicious code that exposes user phone to external attackers.

Situation 1:

Lisk has no such review process but the code can be viewed by others. Lets say if dapp included with some malicious code that records pass phrases somewhere (not in the dapp), lisk-cli just creates a foundation base for dapp development and users extends it with their own api. How lisk prevents user from accessing dapp and removes from store if malicious code found.  

Situation 2:

Lisk dapps and their sidechains can be hosted by third party entities. Lets say owner setup two VMS. One with actual sidechain with clean dapp code internally and installed a reverse proxy on another VM(that sits on external point and forwards request to internal VM that hosted dapp). The reverse proxy receives the request from user first and records pass phrase and then forwards same request to internal VM without modifying request headers.

Situation 3:

Man in the middle attacks.

If the dapp owner not hosting sidechain with SSL, How Lisk ensures user data not compromised.

Just wondering how lisk handles these situations and prevents owner from misusing pass phrases. Last year, I encountered similar issue with NXT and lost around 10K coins. I used a remote nxt web node to check my transactions frequently. I suspect they recorded my pass phrase and transferred my 10k to theirs account.

I think users shouldn't be forced to send pass phrases to dapp owners, its like sending your BTC private keys to others.


@ 1: We are in a decentralized environment. Any kind of censoring by the devs will hurt lisk. The only way is a reputational... removing malicious code will probably not be possible. But who knows, maybe the reputation system can offer that.

Ok, I agree but this doesn't mean system should be infected with all malicious dapps. Reputation wise its not good. Still the dapp has to communicate with mainnet to keep consistency. I think Lisk mainnet holds meta information about each dapp. This should be enough to record info about dapp. Now the question is how to warn the user about that particular malicious dapp .

I'm thinking few alternatives, will present them in coming posts.


@ 2+3: you don't need to send your password to the server hopefully. You also don't have to do that in NXT. Just the Frontend needs it.

I think Dapp UI asks for pass phrase, and pass same to server through api call or http post. its enough to capture pass phrase. Its not like Dapp UI (client face) directly talking to mainnet. it doesn't matter, Whether its UI or api all should go through http endpoints on the server.


full member
Activity: 164
Merit: 100
Hey Guys

I will run a delegate Node cc001, I hope I get your votes! Who else will run one an who is planning to vote for whom?

So far I have following people on my voting list:

MalReynolds, PunkRock, Emerge, cannabanana, bigcabrito? nextgencrypto

who else? who wants my vote and gives me his vote?   Wink

I'll give you a vote!  I'll be running as "nextgencrypto".

Stability is the key!

added you Smiley
legendary
Activity: 854
Merit: 1000
I'm a full stack developer and a early investor (2nd week). I like Lisk because of  JavaScript as main language. I have just started looking at the dapp development, noticed some serious security concerns with dapp development.

My understanding with dapps is (correct me if I'm wrong), a dapp is hostable component that exposes an http external api and is capable of doing some transactions (withdrawals and deposits). Every dapp can be hosted within in some sidechain. Users can access dapp functionality with the help of exposed api by passing secret and transaction info. It means you have to pass your pass phrase to every dapp you want to do a transaction lets say a withdrawal (paying to dapp owners).

Apple, Microsoft, and google stores are centralized. Every app has to go rigorous review process before getting published in stores ( I published few apps in google and windows stores). The review process mainly includes scanning for malicious code that exposes user phone to external attackers.

Situation 1:

Lisk has no such review process but the code can be viewed by others. Lets say if dapp included with some malicious code that records pass phrases somewhere (not in the dapp), lisk-cli just creates a foundation base for dapp development and users extends it with their own api. How lisk prevents user from accessing dapp and removes from store if malicious code found.  

Situation 2:

Lisk dapps and their sidechains can be hosted by third party entities. Lets say owner setup two VMS. One with actual sidechain with clean dapp code internally and installed a reverse proxy on another VM(that sits on external point and forwards request to internal VM that hosted dapp). The reverse proxy receives the request from user first and records pass phrase and then forwards same request to internal VM without modifying request headers.

Situation 3:

Man in the middle attacks.

If the dapp owner not hosting sidechain with SSL, How Lisk ensures user data not compromised.

Just wondering how lisk handles these situations and prevents owner from misusing pass phrases. Last year, I encountered similar issue with NXT and lost around 10K coins. I used a remote nxt web node to check my transactions frequently. I suspect they recorded my pass phrase and transferred my 10k to theirs account.

I think users shouldn't be forced to send pass phrases to dapp owners, its like sending your BTC private keys to others.


@ 1: We are in a decentralized environment. Any kind of censoring by the devs will hurt lisk. The only way is a reputational... removing malicious code will probably not be possible. But who knows, maybe the reputation system can offer that.

@ 2+3: you don't need to send your password to the server hopefully. You also don't have to do that in NXT. Just the Frontend needs it.


2 and 3 does concern me a bit, I'll be waiting for Max's and Oliver's answer and maybe this can all be worked out,
or be worked ON if ever Smiley Hopefully Lisk will find a way
legendary
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expect(brain).toHaveBeenUsed()
I'm a full stack developer and a early investor (2nd week). I like Lisk because of  JavaScript as main language. I have just started looking at the dapp development, noticed some serious security concerns with dapp development.

My understanding with dapps is (correct me if I'm wrong), a dapp is hostable component that exposes an http external api and is capable of doing some transactions (withdrawals and deposits). Every dapp can be hosted within in some sidechain. Users can access dapp functionality with the help of exposed api by passing secret and transaction info. It means you have to pass your pass phrase to every dapp you want to do a transaction lets say a withdrawal (paying to dapp owners).

Apple, Microsoft, and google stores are centralized. Every app has to go rigorous review process before getting published in stores ( I published few apps in google and windows stores). The review process mainly includes scanning for malicious code that exposes user phone to external attackers.

Situation 1:

Lisk has no such review process but the code can be viewed by others. Lets say if dapp included with some malicious code that records pass phrases somewhere (not in the dapp), lisk-cli just creates a foundation base for dapp development and users extends it with their own api. How lisk prevents user from accessing dapp and removes from store if malicious code found.  

Situation 2:

Lisk dapps and their sidechains can be hosted by third party entities. Lets say owner setup two VMS. One with actual sidechain with clean dapp code internally and installed a reverse proxy on another VM(that sits on external point and forwards request to internal VM that hosted dapp). The reverse proxy receives the request from user first and records pass phrase and then forwards same request to internal VM without modifying request headers.

Situation 3:

Man in the middle attacks.

If the dapp owner not hosting sidechain with SSL, How Lisk ensures user data not compromised.

Just wondering how lisk handles these situations and prevents owner from misusing pass phrases. Last year, I encountered similar issue with NXT and lost around 10K coins. I used a remote nxt web node to check my transactions frequently. I suspect they recorded my pass phrase and transferred my 10k to theirs account.

I think users shouldn't be forced to send pass phrases to dapp owners, its like sending your BTC private keys to others.


@ 1: We are in a decentralized environment. Any kind of censoring by the devs will hurt lisk. The only way is a reputational... removing malicious code will probably not be possible. But who knows, maybe the reputation system can offer that.

@ 2+3: you don't need to send your password to the server hopefully. You also don't have to do that in NXT. Just the Frontend needs it.
sr. member
Activity: 462
Merit: 250
Hey Guys

I will run a delegate Node cc001, I hope I get your votes! Who else will run one an who is planning to vote for whom?

So far I have following people on my voting list:

MalReynolds, PunkRock, Emerge, cannabanana, bigcabrito?

who else? who wants my vote and gives me his vote?   Wink

I'll give you a vote!  I'll be running as "nextgencrypto".

Stability is the key!
full member
Activity: 164
Merit: 100
Hey Guys

I will run a delegate Node cc001, I hope I get your votes! Who else will run one an who is planning to vote for whom?

So far I have following people on my voting list:

MalReynolds, PunkRock, Emerge, cannabanana, bigcabrito?, nextgencrypto

who else? who wants my vote and gives me his vote?   Wink
newbie
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so over 7mil was raised in the ico..   which a portion will be used to fund development of lisk.
may i suggest the devs hedge its value incase of bitcoin catastophy.

possibly something like this would be good idea.

50% vautoro gold
50% slit up over USDT, ETH, BTC.

just a thought..  as wouldnt want a btc crash, to also crash development of lisk.
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Early Bitcoin Supporter
when will this trade and launch ?

Launching on the 11th of April. Trading is somewhere near that date but not 100% sure of an exact day yet.
legendary
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I'm a full stack developer and a early investor (2nd week). I like Lisk because of  JavaScript as main language. I have just started looking at the dapp development, noticed some serious security concerns with dapp development.

My understanding with dapps is (correct me if I'm wrong), a dapp is hostable component that exposes an http external api and is capable of doing some transactions (withdrawals and deposits). Every dapp can be hosted within in some sidechain. Users can access dapp functionality with the help of exposed api by passing secret and transaction info. It means you have to pass your pass phrase to every dapp you want to do a transaction lets say a withdrawal (paying to dapp owners).

Apple, Microsoft, and google stores are centralized. Every app has to go rigorous review process before getting published in stores ( I published few apps in google and windows stores). The review process mainly includes scanning for malicious code that exposes user phone to external attackers.

Situation 1:

Lisk has no such review process but the code can be viewed by others. Lets say if dapp included with some malicious code that records pass phrases somewhere (not in the dapp), lisk-cli just creates a foundation base for dapp development and users extends it with their own api. How lisk prevents user from accessing dapp and removes from store if malicious code found.  

Situation 2:

Lisk dapps and their sidechains can be hosted by third party entities. Lets say owner setup two VMS. One with actual sidechain with clean dapp code internally and installed a reverse proxy on another VM(that sits on external point and forwards request to internal VM that hosted dapp). The reverse proxy receives the request from user first and records pass phrase and then forwards same request to internal VM without modifying request headers.

Situation 3:

Man in the middle attacks.

If the dapp owner not hosting sidechain with SSL, How Lisk ensures user data not compromised.

Just wondering how lisk handles these situations and prevents owner from misusing pass phrases. Last year, I encountered similar issue with NXT and lost around 10K coins. I used a remote nxt web node to check my transactions frequently. I suspect they recorded my pass phrase and transferred my 10k to theirs account.

I think users shouldn't be forced to send pass phrases to dapp owners, its like sending your BTC private keys to others.


Finally, nice to see a post for a change that is actually about the technology and not price speculation.

I am also interested in learning more about lisk Security.

Anyone who can address these questions?
@LiskHQ?

Great questions, I think I saw a similar discussion on Lisk chat about it (Situation 1).
hero member
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Don't Trust Words
Yo TreuAnon!

How is Maryjaine going?

Are you  stil talking to your self ?   Cheesy  Cheesy


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=793704.3700.   Wink



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I'm a full stack developer and a early investor (2nd week). I like Lisk because of  JavaScript as main language. I have just started looking at the dapp development, noticed some serious security concerns with dapp development.

My understanding with dapps is (correct me if I'm wrong), a dapp is hostable component that exposes an http external api and is capable of doing some transactions (withdrawals and deposits). Every dapp can be hosted within in some sidechain. Users can access dapp functionality with the help of exposed api by passing secret and transaction info. It means you have to pass your pass phrase to every dapp you want to do a transaction lets say a withdrawal (paying to dapp owners).

Apple, Microsoft, and google stores are centralized. Every app has to go rigorous review process before getting published in stores ( I published few apps in google and windows stores). The review process mainly includes scanning for malicious code that exposes user phone to external attackers.

Situation 1:

Lisk has no such review process but the code can be viewed by others. Lets say if dapp included with some malicious code that records pass phrases somewhere (not in the dapp), lisk-cli just creates a foundation base for dapp development and users extends it with their own api. How lisk prevents user from accessing dapp and removes from store if malicious code found.  

Situation 2:

Lisk dapps and their sidechains can be hosted by third party entities. Lets say owner setup two VMS. One with actual sidechain with clean dapp code internally and installed a reverse proxy on another VM(that sits on external point and forwards request to internal VM that hosted dapp). The reverse proxy receives the request from user first and records pass phrase and then forwards same request to internal VM without modifying request headers.

Situation 3:

Man in the middle attacks.

If the dapp owner not hosting sidechain with SSL, How Lisk ensures user data not compromised.

Just wondering how lisk handles these situations and prevents owner from misusing pass phrases. Last year, I encountered similar issue with NXT and lost around 10K coins. I used a remote nxt web node to check my transactions frequently. I suspect they recorded my pass phrase and transferred my 10k to theirs account.

I think users shouldn't be forced to send pass phrases to dapp owners, its like sending your BTC private keys to others.


Finally, nice to see a post for a change that is actually about the technology and not price speculation.

I am also interested in learning more about lisk Security.

Anyone who can address these questions?
@LiskHQ?
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