Topic: [ANN][LSK] Lisk | Blockchain Application Platform for JavaScript Developers - page 2135. (Read 3074324 times)
March 11, 2016, 11:45:44 AM
better watch this space
March 11, 2016, 11:41:25 AM
As far as I know BTER's BTC deposit/withdrawal works. It would be so nice if DEVs placed buy order at 1300 so people could take those BTC back into ICO exchange. Let them stuck on BTER, looks like they'll be useless soon anyway.
Any thoughts on this?
How could you tie Crypti sales at BTER to Lisk ownership?
March 11, 2016, 11:39:00 AM
What language is used to code Lisk smart contracts?
"At Lisk you can't develop smart contracts which are always being performed by all miners on the network."taken from this post
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13895722
This true statement does not mean "smart contracts" are impossible in Lisk. It depends on your definition of smart contracts.
Can Lisk run a dapp on a sidechain that takes coin from two or more people, scans the web repeatedly via APIs or screen scraping, and then pushes all coins previously collected back to only one person's Lisk account based on some future trigger that is found?
Yes. And I would argue this fits the definition of a "smart contract".
As I have said repeatedly, the first person to write a sports betting dapp in Lisk using code like this will be a billionaire.
March 11, 2016, 11:25:31 AM
As far as I know BTER's BTC deposit/withdrawal works. It would be so nice if DEVs placed buy order at 1300 so people could take those BTC back into ICO exchange. Let them stuck on BTER, looks like they'll be useless soon anyway.
Any thoughts on this?
March 11, 2016, 11:14:19 AM
What language is used to code Lisk smart contracts?
"At Lisk you can't develop smart contracts which are always being performed by all miners on the network."
taken from this post
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13895722
Lisk is a platform for decentralized apps instead, written in javascript
March 11, 2016, 11:13:04 AM
Where is the Lisk price speculation thread?
It's in the altcoin discussion area. Don't let anything said there influence how much you invest in Lisk, however. People mostly just say whatever they want to occur...
If they bought in, coin will skyrocket. If they are waiting until the initial dump on an exchange, coin will plummet. But there are some ideas posted as to what typically occurs with ICOs, and again, that idea about not being on an exchange initially.
March 11, 2016, 11:11:10 AM
Where is the Lisk price speculation thread?
Here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/lisk-price-speculation-1386914
March 11, 2016, 11:08:41 AM
Will this be available to trade right after ICO?
There's no exchange yet that has agreed to carry Lisk...but there will be soon.
Someone mentioned something in the Lisk price speculation thread that does make some sense... in a way, it may be better if Lisk wasn't listed on an exchange immediately after the ICO. It's psychological, but the fact that a coin is unavailable to purchase tends to make people more interested. So a short delay, perhaps with some marketing or Dapps contests, actually could benefit the coin by the time it hits an exchange.
It's also possible the coin could benefit from just being on Bittrex to begin with. The lure of eventually getting on Polo or larger exchanges might sustain its price level (or increase it), during the coin's initial dump period (happens with all ICOs, it's just a question of when).
March 11, 2016, 11:07:52 AM
Ok, thanks. When does the ICO ends?
Here you see countdowns for ICO and bonuses: https://ico.lisk.io/
March 11, 2016, 11:06:54 AM
Will this be available to trade right after ICO?
There's no exchange yet that has agreed to carry Lisk...but there will be soon.
Someone mentioned something in the Lisk price speculation thread that does make some sense... in a way, it may be better if Lisk wasn't listed on an exchange immediately after the ICO. It's psychological, but the fact that a coin is unavailable to purchase tends to make people more interested. So a short delay, perhaps with some marketing or Dapps contests, actually could benefit the coin by the time it hits an exchange.
It's also possible the coin could benefit from just being on Bittrex to begin with. The lure of eventually getting on Polo or larger exchanges might sustain its price level (or increase it), during the coin's initial dump period (happens with all ICOs, it's just a question of when).
March 11, 2016, 11:04:26 AM
Will this be available to trade right after ICO?
There's no exchange yet that has agreed to carry Lisk...but there will be soon.
Ok, thanks. When does the ICO ends?
March 11, 2016, 10:56:24 AM
Will this be available to trade right after ICO?
There's no exchange yet that has agreed to carry Lisk...but there will be soon.
March 11, 2016, 10:53:35 AM
How the hell did this managed to raise over 3000 BTC 
What's so special about this entity
What's so special about this entity LISK HOLDS THE FOLLOWING ADVANTAGES OVER ETHERIUM:
Javascript language simplicity vs Solidity language complexity
Like I said ... easy to write a Javascript compiler to Ethereum bytecode
Let me know when it's done...or even started. Even if an Ethereum JavaScript compiler existed, Solidity is still a new, experimental, unstable language - why paste a compiler on top of it? See:
https://docs.erisindustries.com/tutorials/solidity/solidity-1/
100,000+ JavaScript programmers vs. few Solidity programmers
The above argument eliminates this so called advantage of lisk
The above argument is vaporware. JavaScript programmers can start coding Lisk dapps right now.
Single hash generated vs. trillions of valid but discarded hashes generated to secure blockchain in one blocktime
Makes no sense at all
I've explained this several times. Churning out trillions of wasted hashes means lots of wasted electricity - like literally a nuclear powerplant's worth for Bitcoin - and is an exponentially-growing financial overhead that will ultimately kill the coin. See:
https://blockchain.info/charts/hash-rate?timespan=all&showDataPoints=false&daysAverageString=1&show_header=true&scale=0&address=
Cooperative, efficient blockchain generation vs. competitive, wasteful blockchain generation
looks like the same as above
No, it's the key reason Lisk can run its nodes on a $9 CHIP computer and Ethereum can't. Economies of scale hugely favor Lisk over BTC/ETH. See:
http://getchip.com/pages/chip
Stable roundtable clockwork forging vs. unsustainable, exponentially growing free-for-all mining
Forging is no different than mining ... just different ways to make the currency
It is so sad to see people that don't understand enough math to get why exponential growth is unsustainable, or why a stable system is different and better from an unstable one.
Dapps on individual sidechains vs. dapps on bloated mainchain
Ethereum dapps are also sidechains .. lol .. you seem to be uninformed
The Ethereum Guide says its dapps are deployed on the mainchain ( https://gavofyork.gitbooks.io/turboethereum/content/dapps_deployment.html ). Practically, in Ethereum dapps are just specialized "contracts". There's my showdown cards in this poker hand - what's your counter-reference to prove what you are saying about Ethereum sidechains? Prove to me that each dapp in Ethereum has its own separate blockchain as they do in Lisk.
Min of 2-4 to max of 101 cheap $35 Pi2 / $9 CHIP microcomputers needed for each sidechain backbone vs. large, unlimited numbers of expensive GPU systems needed for mainchain backbone
The GPU rings will not be used once POS for eth sets in
So...PoS for ETH is vaporware, got it. How can you know that ETH PoS will run on microcomputers like Lisk does even if ETH PoS finally shows up? What happens to all those sad little GPU miners whose income stream will be cut off?
Sidechain dapps permanently free vs. mainchain perpetual "gas" payments required
Ah ... What can possibly be the use of the beloved LISK then ...
What part of "free" vs. "paying for ETH gas" is so hard to understand? Free is better. Lisk is still the exchange coin of choice within the dapp itself.
Will this be available to trade right after ICO?
March 11, 2016, 10:41:35 AM
How the hell did this managed to raise over 3000 BTC What's so special about this entity
What's so special about this entity Lisk is a dapp development platform that runs sidechains.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rk_0TjP1gjY
LISK HOLDS THE FOLLOWING ADVANTAGES OVER ETHERIUM:
Javascript language simplicity vs Solidity language complexity
Like I said ... easy to write a Javascript compiler to Ethereum bytecode
Let me know when it's done...or even started. Even if an Ethereum JavaScript compiler existed, Solidity is still a new, experimental, unstable language - why paste a compiler on top of it? See:
https://docs.erisindustries.com/tutorials/solidity/solidity-1/
100,000+ JavaScript programmers vs. few Solidity programmers
The above argument eliminates this so called advantage of lisk
The above argument is vaporware. JavaScript programmers can start coding Lisk dapps right now.
Single hash generated vs. trillions of valid but discarded hashes generated to secure blockchain in one blocktime
Makes no sense at all
I've explained this several times. Churning out trillions of wasted hashes means lots of wasted electricity - like literally a nuclear powerplant's worth for Bitcoin - and is an exponentially-growing financial overhead that will ultimately kill the coin. See:
https://blockchain.info/charts/hash-rate?timespan=all&showDataPoints=false&daysAverageString=1&show_header=true&scale=0&address=
Cooperative, efficient blockchain generation vs. competitive, wasteful blockchain generation
looks like the same as above
No, it's the key reason Lisk can run its nodes on a $9 CHIP computer and Ethereum can't. Economies of scale hugely favor Lisk over BTC/ETH. See:
http://getchip.com/pages/chip
Stable roundtable clockwork forging vs. unsustainable, exponentially growing free-for-all mining
Forging is no different than mining ... just different ways to make the currency
It is so sad to see people that don't understand enough math to get why exponential growth is unsustainable, or why a stable system is different and better from an unstable one.
Dapps on individual sidechains vs. dapps on bloated mainchain
Ethereum dapps are also sidechains .. lol .. you seem to be uninformed
The Ethereum Guide says its dapps are deployed on the mainchain ( https://gavofyork.gitbooks.io/turboethereum/content/dapps_deployment.html ). Practically, in Ethereum dapps are just specialized "contracts". There's my showdown cards in this poker hand - what's your counter-reference to prove what you are saying about Ethereum sidechains? Prove to me that each dapp in Ethereum has its own separate blockchain as they do in Lisk.
Min of 2-4 to max of 101 cheap $35 Pi2 / $9 CHIP microcomputers needed for each sidechain backbone vs. large, unlimited numbers of expensive GPU systems needed for mainchain backbone
The GPU rings will not be used once POS for eth sets in
So...PoS for ETH is vaporware, got it. How can you know that ETH PoS will run on microcomputers like Lisk does even if ETH PoS finally shows up? What happens to all those sad little GPU miners whose income stream will be cut off?
Sidechain dapps permanently free vs. mainchain perpetual "gas" payments required
Ah ... What can possibly be the use of the beloved LISK then ...
What part of "free" vs. "paying for ETH gas forever" is so hard to understand? Free is better. Lisk is still the exchange coin of choice within the dapp itself.
March 11, 2016, 10:41:01 AM
How the hell did this managed to raise over 3000 BTC What's so special about this entity
The fact that it was able to raise over 3000 BTC What's so special about this entity 
March 11, 2016, 10:29:40 AM
How the hell did this managed to raise over 3000 BTC What's so special about this entity
What's so special about this entity 
March 11, 2016, 10:11:19 AM
I hope you won't just dump these BTC at market prices on one exchange like Vitalik did.
Vitalik was completely stupid on this sale (and others stuffs)... 
March 11, 2016, 10:00:18 AM
3199 BTC (62.5%) - Actual BTC donated, to be used as a $1.35M cash development fund for future versions of Lisk
I hope you won't just dump these BTC at market prices on one exchange like Vitalik did.
March 11, 2016, 09:03:31 AM
So I'm trying to make a purchase of Lisk with Crypti and it says my account (which is funded) has no XCR, and your Crypti explorer shows my account with balance and transactions one moment and without any the next moment. What is going on? Why doesn't the site just give me a Crypti address to send to instead of having to use whatever daemon you are using that is having issues?
Create a support ticket or join the chat to talk to @max or @oliver.
March 11, 2016, 09:00:28 AM
Just invested in the Lisk ICO. Got my passphrase and keys saved in 3 places and I'm ready!! 
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