Topic: [ANN][LSK] Lisk | Blockchain Application Platform for JavaScript Developers - page 2136. (Read 3074324 times)

The best part of the Lisk ICO is that the numbers are clearly available for anybody to see.

LISK ICO OVERVIEW:

As I write this at 13:30 UTC, Lisk has a market cap of $2.157M = 5114 BTC.  This market cap can be divided into the following assets:

3199 BTC (62.5%) - Actual BTC donated, to be used as a $1.35M cash development fund for future versions of Lisk
0789 BTC (15.4%) - Equivalent BTC from Crypti transfers, effective value of Crypti Version 0.5.5 code base used to launch Lisk
0360 BTC (07.0%) - Early participation bonuses, effectively an advertising expense to organize approximately 2000 people into initial Lisk users
0360 BTC (07.0%) - Set-aside for future bounties and consulting payments
0203 BTC (04.0%) - Founder reward for Max Kordek, Lisk CEO
0203 BTC (04.0%) - Founder reward for Oliver Beddows, Lisk CTO

Note that Max and Olivier didn't have to give out early participation bonuses, which are a free giveaway of almost as much Lisk as they kept for themselves.

Here's the BTC donations by day so far:

Day 1&2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17

BTC 801.3 43.5 131.8 109.0 190.2 107.0 63.5 69.0 113.1 174.9 314.9 275.8 343.4 95.2 139.5 170.4

Follow the numbers here as they change over the rest of the Lisk ICO:

How Many Lisk You Will Receive For One Bitcoin (BTC)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iOEdaRnBmSAO5miW7xYheeYUgo5wL9l9BONw6x21nQg/edit?usp=sharing

How Many Lisk You Will Receive For One Crypti (XCR)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GwWKK7bpjYTxtQRIq_l2xiKI9rEOpTU1oTt0q3C6Mc8/edit?usp=sharing

The Satoshi Price For One Lisk

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Q2MJ25_bK5Yi60FYohYCUEkujUtL5c0P1dOdlDMPMBI/edit?usp=sharing


I have written two posts on this false idea that the Lisk ICO is a "Crypti bailout".  

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14152101

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14154777

Bottom line, BTC donors are not losing any money here regardless of what the Crypti donors do. You think I'm wrong about that, show me your math-based reasoning like I've shown you mine.

The people who are using Crypti to buy Lisk agree with Max and Olivier that the Crypti Foundation was not doing a very good job of pushing this JavaScript cheap microcomputer sidechain dapp technology forward.

Crypti stopped being coins and started being voting ballots once Lisk was announced.   If you are with Crypti and you want to stay with Crypti, do nothing.  If you are with Crypti and you want to go with Lisk, you convert your Crypti to Lisk.  The Crypti transfers are about voting, they are not about money.  Crypti donors have the same holdings value in Lisk as they did at Crypti - no more, no less.

Note the Crypti ICO raised exactly 750 BTC back in mid-2014, and the effective value being split among Crypti donors to Lisk is 789 BTC above.  The effective value of Crypti in Lisk is thus currently only 5% higher than the launch funding for Crypti almost two years ago.  So the Crypti folks certainly aren't seeing some huge boost in their fortunes as a result of moving over to Lisk!

So I'm trying to make a purchase of Lisk with Crypti and it says my account (which is funded) has no XCR, and your Crypti explorer shows my account with balance and transactions one moment and without any the next moment. What is going on? Why doesn't the site just give me a Crypti address to send to instead of having to use whatever daemon you are using that is having issues?

What language is used to code Lisk smart contracts?

Have just discovered Lisk. Looks interesting.

Is it possible they dropped cold wallet into ICO hoping to make nice profit fast? In this case of cause all those orders will be processing for another two weeks.

Bter is not a place where I would like to trade, I've removed my coins more than an year ago

As far as I know BTER's BTC deposit/withdrawal works. It would be so nice if DEVs placed buy order at 1300 so people could take those BTC back into ICO exchange. Let them stuck on BTER, looks like they'll be useless soon anyway.

The choice of version number is simply an indicator of our desire for a fresh start / new approach.

Although Lisk is a fork of Crypti, and right now the differences are few, this won't be the case forever.

Your confidence will likely increase in the number, when you actually see us deliver what we set out to achieve

approx 3096.01006841 BTC

source: https://ico.lisk.io/

How many BTC are collected for the ico ?

the fact is that who is using their XCR to take Lisk has some kind of advantage towards who is buying lisk in btc.

I accidentally bought a good bit of this today, and freaked out for a bit, but after checking it out more thoroughly I'm not really upset about it.  Should be interesting at least.  If you're wondering how someone accidentally purchases the wrong IPO of a coin....well I'm what's known as a "dumb" in clinical terms.  Sometimes inexplicable things just happen.  Will definitely see about getting some use out of this platform though seeing as how I'm already a JS dev to a degree, I cannot in any honesty say I'm a Solidarity dapp engineer so that's one point here vs. Ethereum. 

I saw this posted a few pages back:

First of all, I want to say I love the idea and will be definitely following this.

But there is 1 thing that is a bit unclear to me.


In previous pages there is a mention that this isnt a Crypti Bailout.


But over 60 mill XCR has already been raised and it barely has any volume, how will you sell it all if you own almost the entire supply of it?


60mill almost proves people lost fate in XCR and jump ship to Lisk, who will be buying XCr from you.



Thanks and good luck !

RT guys

https://twitter.com/rendravolt/status/708099036646023168

It has nothing to do with being confident or not. Lisk is new software and it has to start with a version number. I will ask Oliver to give a statement to the 0.1.0 number.



We are in contact with someone from China. It has to be well coordinated. Something I learned at Crypti is, to not release every bit of news immediately. Better release the news in a package, this will create much more buzz.

Organization gives easy access to the data.  

Currently Lisk market cap is over $2.13M, Lisk cash tech development fund is over $1.35M, Lisk price is at 5110 satoshi / 0.02 USD.

How Many Lisk You Will Receive For One Bitcoin (BTC)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iOEdaRnBmSAO5miW7xYheeYUgo5wL9l9BONw6x21nQg/edit?usp=sharing

How Many Lisk You Will Receive For One Crypti (XCR)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GwWKK7bpjYTxtQRIq_l2xiKI9rEOpTU1oTt0q3C6Mc8/edit?usp=sharing

The Satoshi Price For One Lisk

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Q2MJ25_bK5Yi60FYohYCUEkujUtL5c0P1dOdlDMPMBI/edit?usp=sharing

@LiskHQ are you running any ads for the Chinese? It is is a huge market and it would be a shame to not get them on board

I just noticed the version number you plan on using is 0.1.0. Why not 1.0? It's based on established and proven software, are you not confident it will be ready to go? 0.1.0 just sounds not confident.