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hero member
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this guy is a turd.  I had 4 million lisk on my first day exchange also and now sitting under 200k. 

Either this guy is retarded or if you're reading this crap and believe him, you're a bigger idiot than him.

I'm follower here..??and just need to know. who's the biggest idiot here?? Huh
hero member
Activity: 518
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this guy is a turd.  I had 4 million lisk on my first day exchange also and now sitting under 200k. 

Either this guy is retarded or if you're reading this crap and believe him, you're a bigger idiot than him.
sr. member
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0.14 dash for 76299550 lisk >>??

and What Is The Satosh Price For 76299550 Lisk?                                       

That is not correct, I'm sure it will update to the right amount once the transaction is complete.
hero member
Activity: 830
Merit: 500
Same thing every year, people invest in these sales and don't even understand the terms!!! Jesus, read people! This question gets answered every 4 pages now.

Ha!  That's my cue to post the spreadsheet links again...now with new USD pricing!

"In Lisk, the value of your contribution invested in the ICO is held constant.  Your number of Lisk to be allocated in the genesis block goes down as more donors show up, and the new money they bring in causes the value of each individual Lisk to go up and compensate.  You do not lose or gain any money as a result of your participation in the ICO."  


How Many Lisk You Will Receive For One Bitcoin (BTC)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iOEdaRnBmSAO5miW7xYheeYUgo5wL9l9BONw6x21nQg/edit?usp=sharing

How Many Lisk You Will Receive For One Crypti (XCR)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GwWKK7bpjYTxtQRIq_l2xiKI9rEOpTU1oTt0q3C6Mc8/edit?usp=sharing

The Satoshi / USD Price For One Lisk  

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Q2MJ25_bK5Yi60FYohYCUEkujUtL5c0P1dOdlDMPMBI/edit?usp=sharing




0.14 dash for 76299550 lisk >>??

and What Is The Satosh Price For 76299550 Lisk?

76299550 : 100000000 = 76%   
85,000,000 LISK for ICO participants>>??
                                    
legendary
Activity: 938
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(Note: looks like whitepaper needs to be updated, "0.1 LISK of amount sent for a spend transaction" should be "0.1% LISK of amount sent for a spend transaction".
We changed it to a constant 0.1 LISK. There was always the problem to calculate the fee, now it's very easy. Smiley

At Crypti, the "percentage fee" was always intended to be a way to compensate the 101 Active Delegates for their out-of-pocket server costs.  In some of my really old posts I went through the math in excruciating detail to show that a percentage fee for Crypti would never come close to covering server costs and I argued for a fixed fee or even no fee.  

Now here we are at Lisk, with the percentage fee gone like I promoted, replaced by a minimal fixed fee per transaction like I also promoted - and a new 5 Lisk paid per block to a forging delegate when his turn comes around every 101 blocks.  So...the Lisk forging block reward at 5 Lisk is 50 times the Lisk transaction fee at 0.1 Lisk - and it's conjured out of thin air as new inflationary coin!  

Crypti tried percentage fees on a non-inflationary coin, Lisk is gonna try inflationary block rewards.  Gotta pay the piper somehow, I guess...

Don't ever say that Lisk is nothing but a perfect clone of Crypti.  Look under the hood, there's lots of differences between Crypti and Lisk.  

Which was the main reason for the fork.  
hero member
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Decentralized Application Platform
(Note: looks like whitepaper needs to be updated, "0.1 LISK of amount sent for a spend transaction" should be "0.1% LISK of amount sent for a spend transaction".

We changed it to a constant 0.1 LISK. There was always the problem to calculate the fee, now it's very easy. Smiley
legendary
Activity: 938
Merit: 1000
Same thing every year, people invest in these sales and don't even understand the terms!!! Jesus, read people! This question gets answered every 4 pages now.

Ha!  That's my cue to post the spreadsheet links again...now with new USD pricing!

"In Lisk, the value of your contribution invested in the ICO is held constant.  Your number of Lisk to be allocated in the genesis block goes down as more donors show up, and the new money they bring in causes the value of each individual Lisk to go up and compensate.  You do not lose or gain any money as a result of your participation in the ICO."  


How Many Lisk You Will Receive For One Bitcoin (BTC)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iOEdaRnBmSAO5miW7xYheeYUgo5wL9l9BONw6x21nQg/edit?usp=sharing

How Many Lisk You Will Receive For One Crypti (XCR)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GwWKK7bpjYTxtQRIq_l2xiKI9rEOpTU1oTt0q3C6Mc8/edit?usp=sharing

The Satoshi / USD Price For One Lisk  

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Q2MJ25_bK5Yi60FYohYCUEkujUtL5c0P1dOdlDMPMBI/edit?usp=sharing
legendary
Activity: 1764
Merit: 1002
just TWO on MEN want to collect huge money, imagine that two men an ba.enginer electric&programer....lol how can be this coin will succed, hope back up with good pumper Grin Grin Grin
truly feeling bad about this coin looks like end up like neucoin

Maybee..someeone try to get FAST moneyy heree   Undecided

You?
No...the DEV and all the creww
it just TWO of MEN lolololololollllllllllllllllllllllll BIG LOL, max kordek didnt needed here, juat one programer doing create fast money coin before BTC goes to sky, one programer like john-connor can do more
sr. member
Activity: 356
Merit: 250
just TWO on MEN want to collect huge money, imagine that two men an ba.enginer electric&programer....lol how can be this coin will succed, hope back up with good pumper Grin Grin Grin
truly feeling bad about this coin looks like end up like neucoin

Maybee..someeone try to get FAST moneyy heree   Undecided

These two men have been involved with Nxt, and Crypti, they didn't try to get fast money then, they aren't trying to get fast money now. I like how this one is at least spreading awareness to more people during their ICO. This is what some coins are doing wrong, look at IOTA for instance, everyone in that thread is angry now cause they hadn't noticed their ICO in time or forgotten about it (like I did) cause the thread was never alive or awareness wasn't being spread at all.

Lisk has the best way to spread awareness of a new idea in the making that I've seen in a long time, the reward system is fairly distributed and still maintains fair to the ICO.
hero member
Activity: 867
Merit: 522
just TWO on MEN want to collect huge money, imagine that two men an ba.enginer electric&programer....lol how can be this coin will succed, hope back up with good pumper Grin Grin Grin
truly feeling bad about this coin looks like end up like neucoin

Maybee..someeone try to get FAST moneyy heree   Undecided

You?
No...the DEV and all the creww
hero member
Activity: 867
Merit: 522
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The following is a list of fees for different types of transactions:

    0.1 LISK of amount sent for a spend transaction
    5 LISK for registering a second passphrase
    100 LISK for registering a username
    100 LISK for registering as a delegate
    1 LISK to add a contact
    500 LISK to register a dapp
    5 LISK per member for registering a multi-signature group.

What thiss...?? 1 lisk- 100 lisk,and some one have biggest lisk here.. Lips sealed
legendary
Activity: 1526
Merit: 1002
Waves | 3PHMaGNeTJfqFfD4xuctgKdoxLX188QM8na
just TWO on MEN want to collect huge money, imagine that two men an ba.enginer electric&programer....lol how can be this coin will succed, hope back up with good pumper Grin Grin Grin
truly feeling bad about this coin looks like end up like neucoin

Maybee..someeone try to get FAST moneyy heree   Undecided

You?
hero member
Activity: 867
Merit: 522
just TWO on MEN want to collect huge money, imagine that two men an ba.enginer electric&programer....lol how can be this coin will succed, hope back up with good pumper Grin Grin Grin
truly feeling bad about this coin looks like end up like neucoin

Maybee..someeone try to get FAST moneyy heree   Undecided
sr. member
Activity: 432
Merit: 250

Since i did not get any answer to my last question i ask again. What will lisk coin be used for?
quote from MalReynolds "Sidechain dapps permanently free vs. mainchain perpetual "gas" payments required"
So where will the value of a lisk coin come from if it is not used as some kind of fuel like ether in ethereum?
Can someone can clarify this or is this just a stupid pump thread?

I'm very sorry HidsightHero that I didn't see your question.

Here you can see all fees which occur on the network. Long-term I see the need of  recurring LISK payments. We will need to think about this, but maybe we will make the username and dapp registration payments recurring in the future. For example every 30 days the dapp dev needs to pay a fee so that the dapp stays in our dapp store. If he doesn't pay it, the dapp would still be available, but not visible in our dapp store.

That's one option to make the LISK tokens more needed. However, I suspect that 90% of the dapps will use LISK for internal functionalities.


Will alternative cryptos -ie btc,ltc be used for purchase of dapps alongside Lisk. Or will Lisk be the sole dapp purchase currency.

LISK is the crypto-currency which empowers the Lisk network, a decentralized application and custom blockchain platform. We will make big efforts for the IoT, IOTA has another use-case. E.g. send money on micro-processors.

A dapp doesn't need to be purchased by users, because this can be cheated by the dapp devs and users. But it needs to be registered on the blockchain, this is only possible with the LISK token (500 LISK).

For reference, from the Lisk Whitepaper, below are the existing fees:

Quote
The default network fee for sending an LISK transaction is 0.1 LISK. For example, a 100 LISK transaction includes an additional fee of 0.1 LISK for a total transaction cost of 100.1 LISK.

The following is a list of fees for different types of transactions:

    0.1 LISK of amount sent for a spend transaction
    5 LISK for registering a second passphrase
    100 LISK for registering a username
    100 LISK for registering as a delegate
    1 LISK to add a contact
    500 LISK to register a dapp
    5 LISK per member for registering a multi-signature group.

Originally in Crypti, part of the business model was that Crypti was selling consensus as a service, so there would be a small fee to update the main Crypti blockchain with the current hash of the dapp sidechain. The dapp owner could set the frequency of this consensus up to a maximum frequency defined by the Crypti blocktime, 10 seconds. So a deep space network using a dapp to authenticate spacecraft might only secure itself with the main Lisk chain once every 24 hours while a prediction market may secure consensus every 10 seconds with the main chain.

This was part of the originally planned recurring revenue model for Crypti, so maybe it will be added to Lisk at some point.

It would also make sense to charge dapps some kind of "rent" to continue to reside on the Lisk main chain. Not only would this be another recurring revenue source, but it would eventually purge the main chain of inactive dapps.

Finally, while dapps can have their own internal tokens, cross chain exchanges between dapps will need to go through the Lisk main chain, resulting in a total transaction fee of .2%, .1% each way into and out of the main chain.

(Note: looks like whitepaper needs to be updated, "0.1 LISK of amount sent for a spend transaction" should be "0.1% LISK of amount sent for a spend transaction".
legendary
Activity: 1764
Merit: 1002
just TWO on MEN want to collect huge money, imagine that two men an ba.enginer electric&programer....lol how can be this coin will succed, hope back up with good pumper Grin Grin Grin
truly feeling bad about this coin looks like end up like neucoin
hero member
Activity: 627
Merit: 500
Same thing every year, people invest in these sales and don't even understand the terms!!! Jesus, read people! This question gets answered every 4 pages now.




This is my screenshot. I made it at the beginning, shortly after the ICO started. The numbers shown are just estimates, at the time the screenshot was made under 0.1 BTC were exchanged. If I would open that account now, the LISK amount would be much lower.

What do you mean with "the numbers shown are just estimates"..??i saw all auto exchangeee..??

The more BTC (and other alts) are invested into LISK, the less LISK you get, so the numbers you see are just estimates.

There's only about 85,000,000 LISK so if 2000 BTC are invested, they have to be divided over the amount of 2000 invested BTC. So if you invest 0.1 BTC, you get 4250 LISK.
If 4000 BTC are invested and you invest 0.1 BTC, you get 2125 LISK.
legendary
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This is my screenshot. I made it at the beginning, shortly after the ICO started. The numbers shown are just estimates, at the time the screenshot was made under 0.1 BTC were exchanged. If I would open that account now, the LISK amount would be much lower.

What do you mean with "the numbers shown are just estimates"..??i saw all auto exchangeee..??

The more BTC (and other alts) are invested into LISK, the less LISK you get, so the numbers you see are just estimates.

There's only about 85,000,000 LISK so if 2000 BTC are invested, they have to be divided over the amount of 2000 invested BTC. So if you invest 0.1 BTC, you get 4250 LISK.
If 4000 BTC are invested and you invest 0.1 BTC, you get 2125 LISK.
hero member
Activity: 867
Merit: 522
This is my screenshot. I made it at the beginning, shortly after the ICO started. The numbers shown are just estimates, at the time the screenshot was made under 0.1 BTC were exchanged. If I would open that account now, the LISK amount would be much lower.

What do you mean with "the numbers shown are just estimates"..??i saw all auto exchangeee..??
legendary
Activity: 1526
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Look this guy...make me AWARE if LISK is the other of shittcoinn



d***mn... 76.299.500 lisk for  only 0.14 DASH

http://blogbitindo.com/2016/02/22/panduan-bagaimana-untuk-berpartisipasi-dalam-ico-lisk

https://twitter.com/rendravolt


Country ambasador LISK for  Indonesian

and look what i gett...??




sh***t only 248 lisk for 0.63 DASH

BEWAREE..!!!!



Hehe, lol Cheesy Nice try though...

February 22 was the first day of ICO so this must have been one of the first transfers...
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