All ico buyers will get their coins once Lisk will be launched?
Or people will get coins at some time, not all at once?
It's important, because if all people will get coins at the same time, they can easily flood the market and drive price below ico...
Topic: [ANN][LSK] Lisk | Blockchain Application Platform for JavaScript Developers - page 2172. (Read 3074209 times)
March 02, 2016, 08:10:00 AM
March 02, 2016, 08:03:18 AM
1 Lisk = $0.009816 right now...hmmmm, Participate in the Lisk ICO can realizee thiss pricee
Actually, that is an old number. The current value is $0.01099 and slowly climbing as the satoshi value slowly climbs. Keep track here:
The Satoshi Price For One Lisk
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Q2MJ25_bK5Yi60FYohYCUEkujUtL5c0P1dOdlDMPMBI/edit?usp=sharing
I've modified this spreadsheet to also show the price of 1 Lisk in USD (US dollars).
March 02, 2016, 08:00:44 AM
1 Lisk = $0.009816 right now...hmmmm, Participate in the Lisk ICO can realizee thiss pricee
March 02, 2016, 07:53:48 AM
Lisk: 应用链, means "Chain of Dapps" is good Chancee
March 02, 2016, 07:49:10 AM
I must congratulate Lisk because its growing very fast, Bitcoin investments is being sent very rapidly, but at the same time I worry that everyone who can possibly buy into Lisk might do so before the ICO is over effectively saturating the market and not achieving ROI after ICO is over. I think Lisk is growing too fast before the end of the ICO, I wouldn't mind the exponential growth, but I would rather see it happen after the ICO is over.
That feeling of excitement of seeing Lisk grow so fast combined with that of nervousness that everyone might buy in before the ICO is over...
I understand that the more money Lisk can get, the better the end product will be, but balance is key. While too little money can be detrimental for development, too much money invested can also be detrimental for us, the investors.
Are there any reasons why I shouldn't be worried with rapid increases of investments before the ICO is over?
I think your concern does make sense, yet what I think is bit different. Traffic in the internet is more or less resembles an exponential growth. I am saying as a blogger and digital marketer. Although I do agree that I want to get more shares out of the ICO, shit happens u know. Also, daily trading volume of ETH is about 35,000btc and ICO atm is about 2,000btcThat feeling of excitement of seeing Lisk grow so fast combined with that of nervousness that everyone might buy in before the ICO is over...
I understand that the more money Lisk can get, the better the end product will be, but balance is key. While too little money can be detrimental for development, too much money invested can also be detrimental for us, the investors.
Are there any reasons why I shouldn't be worried with rapid increases of investments before the ICO is over?
daily trading volume of ETH is about 35,000btc and ICO atm is about 2,000btc
Pardon me, but where are you getting that the ICO at the moment is about 2,000 BTC's when I just went to ico.lisk.io and it says:Under "Bitcoin Exchanges" : 1422.53236392 BTC
I think that what says under "Bitcoin Exchanges" represents the total of everything, including the tallying up of all the altcoins+shapeshift+XCR's that were exchanged for Lisks. Correct me if I am wrong.
The difference between the "1422 BTC" and the "2000 BTC" is the difference between "actual and "equivalent" BTC (in dark orange) shown on this spreadsheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Q2MJ25_bK5Yi60FYohYCUEkujUtL5c0P1dOdlDMPMBI/edit#gid=1360974801
The difference between these two is the additional value in the platform besides just the pile of fresh new BTC that is stacking up. The currently-existing Crypti 0.5.5 codebase (previously paid for by XCR donors), all the functional currently-existing GUI wallet / blockchain explorer tools / etc, Max and Olivier working full time as the Lisk Foundation, the goodwill of an enthusiastic community that is in the hundreds and still growing - these did not pay BTC and yet count as real tangible assets. That's the difference between the 1400 and the 2000 numbers. The difference is the estimated value of intangibles.
However, the 2000 number only pays for 85M Lisk and not the 15M Lisk held back by the Lisk Foundation - currently Max and Olivier, but that will grow. The correct comparison to make on the spreadsheet is the implied market cap (which includes all 100M Lisk) vs. the dev-cash-on-hand (which is only the donated BTC).
As I have said over and over, any money you put into the Liso ICO does not change in value as more and more donors pile in. At the end of the ICO, market forces take over. The idea that the entire cryptocurrency market will discover Lisk and buy into it during a four-week ICO is very hard for me to swallow. We have only hundreds of investors in the Lisk ICO. There will be tens of thousands of people who discover Lisk on the exchanges when it gets there. I believe they will buy in at a premium, and that premium is your profit.
As bitcoinuserz notes, ETH trades 35,000 BTC PER DAY and Lisk has taken in 1400 BTC in TWO WEEKS. Yes, there is a lot of justified excitement here in Liskland, but we are still only in a very tiny corner of a very big world.
It's all about perspective. I am the very center of my world. I am a tiny speck in the cosmos.
March 02, 2016, 07:42:03 AM
People!
Can smb says to me why you think that price of LUSK will be more then now? why not to be less??
Thank you for your support!
Can smb says to me why you think that price of LUSK will be more then now? why not to be less??
Thank you for your support!
March 02, 2016, 07:27:54 AM
Hello!
Can somebody tell me- what is the LUSK???
Why it takes so big money on ICO?
Is it really better then ETH or IOTA?
I know that IOTA has newest tehnology in the world, As well as ETH!
But what is new in the LUSK???
Can somebody tell me- what is the LUSK???
Why it takes so big money on ICO?
Is it really better then ETH or IOTA?
I know that IOTA has newest tehnology in the world, As well as ETH!
But what is new in the LUSK???
March 02, 2016, 07:05:40 AM
Question is how high LISK can go in price when listed on an exchange compared to ETH?
I would be happy if we met ETH's current X25 performance in the market. Given Lisk's current market cap of around $1M, that means Lisk would "only" have to be valued on the market at $25M (vs. ETH's current value of $588M) to be considered an equal financial success to Ethereum.
Let me repeat, Lisk can equal Ethereum's current return-on-investment (ROI) by becoming "just" a $25 million coin. Such a success would currently place Lisk in a three-way tie with Doge and Dash for 8th place market cap.
Now if you think (as I do) from the list of advantages above that Lisk can equal not only Ethereum's market performance, valued at X25, but also equal Ethereum's technical performance, valued at $588 million....
...then you have a true winner - in baseball, an out-of-the-park home run.
And I still predict the first person to write an 0.5.5 Lisk sports betting dapp, running decentralized on 100 CHIP computers costing only $900 total and scattered around the world beyond the ability of governments to shut down, that person will become a billionaire.
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/new-york-sues-get-draftkings-fanduel-return-money-n489021
March 02, 2016, 07:00:04 AM
LISK IS CURRENTLY 0.3000 / 0.01137 = 26.4 TIMES CHEAPER THAT ETHERIUM WAS AT ITS LAUNCH
You should also take into account the total supply, which is at Lisk 40% higher than ETH
March 02, 2016, 06:55:56 AM
the value of Ethereum (1 ETH) was 0.30 USD on launch
Forget the current price of lisk, just buy it 
LISK HOLDS THE FOLLOWING ADVANTAGES OVER ETHERIUM:
Javascript language simplicity vs Solidity language complexity
100,000+ JavaScript programmers vs. few Solidity programmers
Single hash generated to secure blockchain in one blocktime vs. trillions of valid but discarded hashes generated to secure blockchain in one blocktime
Cooperative, efficient blockchain generation vs. competitive, wasteful blockchain generation
Stable roundtable clockwork forging vs. exponentially growing free-for-all mining
Dapps on individual sidechains vs. dapps on bloated mainchain
Max of 101 cheap $35 Pi2 / $9 CHIP microcomputers needed for sidechain backbone (101 max) vs. large, unlimited numbers of expensive GPU systems needed for mainchain backbone
Sidechain dapps permanently free vs. mainchain perpetual "gas" payments required
WHICH OF THESE TWO SOUNDS BETTER POSITIONS TO MEET THE UPCOMING CHALLENGE OF A BILLION-ITEM IPv6 "Internet-of-Things" ?
LISK IS CURRENTLY 0.3000 / 0.01137 = 26.4 TIMES CHEAPER THAT ETHERIUM WAS AT ITS LAUNCH
Question is how high LISK can go in price when listed on an exchange compared to ETH?
March 02, 2016, 06:42:56 AM
the value of Ethereum (1 ETH) was 0.30 USD on launch
Forget the current price of lisk, just buy it
LISK HOLDS THE FOLLOWING ADVANTAGES OVER ETHERIUM:
Javascript language simplicity vs Solidity language complexity
100,000+ JavaScript programmers vs. few Solidity programmers
Single hash generated to secure blockchain in one blocktime vs. trillions of valid but discarded hashes generated to secure blockchain in one blocktime
Cooperative, efficient blockchain generation vs. competitive, wasteful blockchain generation
Stable roundtable clockwork forging vs. exponentially growing free-for-all mining
Dapps on individual sidechains vs. dapps on bloated mainchain
Max of 101 cheap $35 Pi2 / $9 CHIP microcomputers needed for sidechain backbone vs. large, unlimited numbers of expensive GPU systems needed for mainchain backbone
Sidechain dapps permanently free vs. mainchain perpetual "gas" payments required
WHICH OF THESE TWO SOUNDS BETTER POSITIONED TO MEET THE UPCOMING CHALLENGE OF A BILLION-ITEM IPv6 "Internet-of-Things" ?
LISK IS CURRENTLY 0.3000 / 0.01137 = 26.4 TIMES CHEAPER THAT ETHERIUM WAS AT ITS LAUNCH
ETH IS CURRENTLY SELLING AT 7.60 / 0.30 = 25.3 TIMES HIGHER THAN AT ITS LAUNCH
March 02, 2016, 06:15:11 AM
Right now, 1 LISK = 0.0089 USD
the value of Ethereum (1 ETH) was 0.30 USD on launch
the value of Ethereum (1 ETH) was 0.30 USD on launch
How did you manage to calculate the value of 1 lisk?
THESE CHARTS ARE UPDATED SEVERAL TIMES PER DAY. FORMULAS USED ARE VISIBLE, JUST CLICK ON A CELL.
How Many Lisk You Will Receive For One Bitcoin (BTC)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iOEdaRnBmSAO5miW7xYheeYUgo5wL9l9BONw6x21nQg/edit?usp=sharing
How Many Lisk You Will Receive For One Crypti (XCR)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GwWKK7bpjYTxtQRIq_l2xiKI9rEOpTU1oTt0q3C6Mc8/edit?usp=sharing
The Satoshi Price For One Lisk
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Q2MJ25_bK5Yi60FYohYCUEkujUtL5c0P1dOdlDMPMBI/edit?usp=sharing
CURRENT LISK UNIT PRICE AS I POST THIS IS 2525 SAT = 0.01137 USD AT COINMARKETCAP.COM BITCOIN PRICE OF 435.03 USD / BTC
435.04 (USD / BTC) * 0.00002525 (BTC / LISK)= 0.01137 (USD / LISK)
March 02, 2016, 06:12:56 AM
Forget the current price of lisk, just buy it
March 02, 2016, 05:59:53 AM
Signature added 
March 02, 2016, 05:20:35 AM
Pardon me, but where are you getting that the ICO at the moment is about 2,000 BTC's when I just went to ico.lisk.io and it says:
Under "Bitcoin Exchanges" : 1422.53236392 BTC
I think that what says under "Bitcoin Exchanges" represents the total of everything, including the tallying up of all the altcoins+shapeshift+XCR's that were exchanged for Lisks. Correct me if I am wrong.
XCR and ShapeShift are not included in the BTC amount.
March 02, 2016, 04:58:39 AM
Simple math. For example. My BTC investment was of 5.66 BTC which right now has a Bitstamp USD value of $2454.00 (at 433.6 each). According to ico.lisk.com I am to get 248,625 Lisks IF the ICO were to end now (this gets further reduced as new investors gets in). Therefore my current 248,625 Lisks equals $2454 in USD value, therefore the price of 1 Lisk must be $0.009816 at the moment. (2,454 divided by 248,625).
1 Lisk = $0.009816 right now.
1 Lisk = $0.009816 right now.
Yea and how about the bonus
I did not account for anytype of bonus. My figure is "plain vanilla" without any bonuses added. If the 24H 1,200,000 Lisks, Signature, Twitter, Facebook bonuses applies for you, then you can account for that. But I dont think that the bonuses are going to give any big punches, probably the 24H bonus will give each of the first 7xx participants approx 1,200 lisks per BTC invested, and the signature+facebook+twitter bonuses will give out even less due to even more applicants and its corresponding pool being even less than the 24H early investors bonuses, so overwall, the more BTC's you invested, the more Lisks you will have, if you go by solely for the bonuses you might not break the x,xxx to xx,xxx Lisks coins amount.
March 02, 2016, 04:54:23 AM
I must congratulate Lisk because its growing very fast, Bitcoin investments is being sent very rapidly, but at the same time I worry that everyone who can possibly buy into Lisk might do so before the ICO is over effectively saturating the market and not achieving ROI after ICO is over. I think Lisk is growing too fast before the end of the ICO, I wouldn't mind the exponential growth, but I would rather see it happen after the ICO is over.
That feeling of excitement of seeing Lisk grow so fast combined with that of nervousness that everyone might buy in before the ICO is over...
I understand that the more money Lisk can get, the better the end product will be, but balance is key. While too little money can be detrimental for development, too much money invested can also be detrimental for us, the investors.
Are there any reasons why I shouldn't be worried with rapid increases of investments before the ICO is over?
I think your concern does make sense, yet what I think is bit different. Traffic in the internet is more or less resembles an exponential growth. I am saying as a blogger and digital marketer. Although I do agree that I want to get more shares out of the ICO, shit happens u know. Also, daily trading volume of ETH is about 35,000btc and ICO atm is about 2,000btcThat feeling of excitement of seeing Lisk grow so fast combined with that of nervousness that everyone might buy in before the ICO is over...
I understand that the more money Lisk can get, the better the end product will be, but balance is key. While too little money can be detrimental for development, too much money invested can also be detrimental for us, the investors.
Are there any reasons why I shouldn't be worried with rapid increases of investments before the ICO is over?
daily trading volume of ETH is about 35,000btc and ICO atm is about 2,000btc
Pardon me, but where are you getting that the ICO at the moment is about 2,000 BTC's when I just went to ico.lisk.io and it says:Under "Bitcoin Exchanges" : 1422.53236392 BTC
I think that what says under "Bitcoin Exchanges" represents the total of everything, including the tallying up of all the altcoins+shapeshift+XCR's that were exchanged for Lisks. Correct me if I am wrong.
March 02, 2016, 04:53:09 AM
Simple math. For example. My BTC investment was of 5.66 BTC which right now has a Bitstamp USD value of $2454.00 (at 433.6 each). According to ico.lisk.com I am to get 248,625 Lisks IF the ICO were to end now (this gets further reduced as new investors gets in). Therefore my current 248,625 Lisks equals $2454 in USD value, therefore the price of 1 Lisk must be $0.009816 at the moment. (2,454 divided by 248,625).
1 Lisk = $0.009816 right now.
1 Lisk = $0.009816 right now.
Yea and how about the bonus
total amount of coins will be 85 mil destributed in about
week 1 approx. 1300 btc x1,15 = 1495 btc (inc bonus)
week 2 approx. 180 btc x1,10 = 198 btc (inc bonus)
so far xcr 34876720 x 0.000013 = 453.4 btc (no bonus)
So far 85 mil devided by 2146 btc (fixtional inc bonus) so that will make it approx 2500 satoshi each
Means a value of 0.01082496 (poloniex value of btc atm dont have other exchange open)
March 02, 2016, 04:48:59 AM
Simple math. For example. My BTC investment was of 5.66 BTC which right now has a Bitstamp USD value of $2454.00 (at 433.6 each). According to ico.lisk.com I am to get 248,625 Lisks IF the ICO were to end now (this gets further reduced as new investors gets in). Therefore my current 248,625 Lisks equals $2454 in USD value, therefore the price of 1 Lisk must be $0.009816 at the moment. (2,454 divided by 248,625).
1 Lisk = $0.009816 right now.
1 Lisk = $0.009816 right now.
March 02, 2016, 04:43:18 AM
I must congratulate Lisk because its growing very fast, Bitcoin investments is being sent very rapidly, but at the same time I worry that everyone who can possibly buy into Lisk might do so before the ICO is over effectively saturating the market and not achieving ROI after ICO is over. I think Lisk is growing too fast before the end of the ICO, I wouldn't mind the exponential growth, but I would rather see it happen after the ICO is over.
That feeling of excitement of seeing Lisk grow so fast combined with that of nervousness that everyone might buy in before the ICO is over...
I understand that the more money Lisk can get, the better the end product will be, but balance is key. While too little money can be detrimental for development, too much money invested can also be detrimental for us, the investors.
Are there any reasons why I shouldn't be worried with rapid increases of investments before the ICO is over?
I think your concern does make sense, yet what I think is bit different. Traffic in the internet is more or less resembles an exponential growth. I am saying as a blogger and digital marketer. Although I do agree that I want to get more shares out of the ICO, shit happens u know. Also, daily trading volume of ETH is about 35,000btc and ICO atm is about 2,000btc That feeling of excitement of seeing Lisk grow so fast combined with that of nervousness that everyone might buy in before the ICO is over...
I understand that the more money Lisk can get, the better the end product will be, but balance is key. While too little money can be detrimental for development, too much money invested can also be detrimental for us, the investors.
Are there any reasons why I shouldn't be worried with rapid increases of investments before the ICO is over?
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