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Quote from: Lutzow on February 26, 2016, 09:24:46 AM

Isn't everytime there's an ICO, some people will post everything to call is SCAM? When ETH ICO came in, people are calling it a deadcoin once ICO is over but look at it now. But of course, there'll be always an altcoin having an ICO who doesn't have any purpose at all so at some point if you're going to call all ICOs SCAM, you will be correct at most times and have the feeling of "I told you so" moment.

Yeah, that's where you gotta start using your own head and figure out which ICO's are worth it and which aren't.

Look at yobit having about 15 ICO's on a daily basis, pumping them and dumping them so hard they will never see the light of day anymore.

It takes reading, knowledge, experience and luck to make it as an investor or miner in this "industry".

This is one of the few ICO's I've been excited about lately, and I'm glad its going forward so smoothly so far.

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Quote from: devlin on February 26, 2016, 09:16:34 AM

Quote from: devlin on February 26, 2016, 03:54:31 AM

After ICO ends all BTC is available to devs. at their discretion? Or is a roadmap to spend ICO value?

Someone can answer?

We will spend all the money on Lisk. This includes marketing, conference/meetup visits, salaries, office space, hardware we might need, infrastructure, business establishment (taxes) and much more.

Quote from: Lutzow on February 26, 2016, 09:24:46 AM

Isn't everytime there's an ICO, some people will post everything to call is SCAM? When ETH ICO came in, people are calling it a deadcoin once ICO is over but look at it now. But of course, there'll be always an altcoin having an ICO who doesn't have any purpose at all so at some point if you're going to call all ICOs SCAM, you will be correct at most times and have the feeling of "I told you so" moment.

You are correct, therefore we don't respond to the accusations. It seems there is the mentality "scam until proven wrong" within the crypto-currency. This is sad, because this creates quite the barrier for beginners. For us this means, work work work! Show good results. That's all what matters in the end.

Additionally, you have to take into consideration that the people who say "scam" are most likely participating in our ICO. They think that the less people participate, the more coins they get. However, they don't have the vision that more capital only has advantages.

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Isn't everytime there's an ICO, some people will post everything to call is SCAM? When ETH ICO came in, people are calling it a deadcoin once ICO is over but look at it now. But of course, there'll be always an altcoin having an ICO who doesn't have any purpose at all so at some point if you're going to call all ICOs SCAM, you will be correct at most times and have the feeling of "I told you so" moment.

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Quote from: devlin on February 26, 2016, 03:54:31 AM

After ICO ends all BTC is available to devs. at their discretion? Or is a roadmap to spend ICO value?

Someone can answer?

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Quote from: cyberhacker on February 26, 2016, 09:02:04 AM

finally the thread is going to what I am expecting two days ago.

Let me predict that there will be more refund request soon.

That means more Lisk for me. Wink

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ATTENT CRYPTI DONATORS

LISK DASHBOARD CRYPTI NODE TIMING PROBLEM FIXED PER OLIVIER

TRY CRYPTI TO LISK TRANSFER AGAIN IF YOU HAD PROBLEMS BEFORE NOW

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Quote from: SISAR on February 26, 2016, 08:42:12 AM

Quote from: ttookk on February 26, 2016, 08:37:53 AM

Quote from: trolleroo on February 26, 2016, 08:31:12 AM

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Quote from: SISAR on February 26, 2016, 08:12:12 AM

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Quote from: SISAR on February 26, 2016, 08:04:58 AM

What is Bitcoin ICO address?

You must go thru the dashboard at http://ico.lisk.io . Click on the "Start Your Exchange" button. There is no direct Bitcoin address for donating to Lisk.

So we are back to "trust us" model. Just type any amount you wish for BTC and particulary badly screw XCR owners. 883 BTC and 734 participants, what an epic lie.

SCAM!

You have been REPORTED

I agree with SISAR (even though, I believe he should contain himself a little) that there should be a way for any user to check important info as number of participants, and money (BTC, etc) received, without resort to "trust". It does not automaticaly mean this is a SCAN ICO, but, still, depending on trust opens doors to bad things.

Well, between all this talk about trust and such, I would like to point out, that you are trusting people that have identified themselves with their real names and pictures. Around 900BTC is a lot of money, but divided by at least two, I have no idea where they should flee, to have a nice life after going through with this, as some call it, scam.

They don't have to flee anywhere, what they will do is announce that ICO money is spent earlier than everyone think it should be spent. Development stopped, rebrand to some other coin and try again. The same way they have abandoned XCR. I was XCR ICO investor so I was following the deal from start, at the point when they were supposed to start advertising XCR as a finalized project they went LISK and dropped XCR because they burned all money from XCR ICO on some stupid shits. And now, because we owners of XCR are getting less LISK if more BTC is invested, and fictional BTC value, they are trashing people who invested in XCR ICO which subsequently resulted in LISK ICO. Fucking bastards.

finally the thread is going to what I am expecting two days ago.

Let me predict that there will be more refund request soon.

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Seems like decent idea, but it's a bit off-putting that it's like 100 million coins and the ico is at 1300+ sats per coin (for btc). Unless my math is wrong that seems WAY to high re. starting value (I don't care what self-valuation they say it's "WORTH")...many other coins with such high coin count just end up way below ico value either permanently or for a very very long time....

Shouldn't something with 100mil be able to buy coins at like 200-500 sats?

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Quote from: iudica on February 26, 2016, 08:49:51 AM

Quote from: SISAR on February 26, 2016, 08:18:05 AM

If we can not check it all stories about lawyer or whatever are irrelevant.

You could easily check it, if you want. Names, links, email addresses are all public here in this thread.

SISAR, An argument doesn't become more valuable, if you spam it frequently and use big or/and red letter!

If you have an serious issue about the escrow or the security of this ICO, you can contact me otherwise please search another thread or forum.

No BTC address = 883 BTC and 734 participants is a lie. It is as simple as that. You might be green and stupid enough to trust people when (big) money is in question but I am not, I joined cryptos exactly because they are trustless. I don't have to trust you that you own some coin, if I know your address and you can prove it is yours that means you own coins at that address. But right here you naive people are still trusting people you actualy do not know, who already proved with XCR they are up to some shady shits. Good luck!

Do not invest into this ICO, it is a scam!

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Quote from: acuteioa on February 26, 2016, 08:37:26 AM

Hi Max,

On the https://ico.lisk.io/users/exchanges page I see the total amount of Lisk I would receive if the ICO would end right now. But does that number include the bonus Lisk for the first day investors?

And how can I see how much Lisk I get for my first-day-investment? Or in other words, how much BTC were officially invested during the first day? Then I can calculate the bonus myself Wink

. But it would also be nice to be able to see the first-day-investment bonus separately on the https://ico.lisk.io/users/exchanges page. Just to be 'gründlich' Wink

Good luck with the ICO!

Hey acuteioa,

No the shown numbers don't include the bonus. This would make things more complicated and error-prone. At the end we will make a tool at which you can check your total LISK you will receive, and how much of that are thanks to the bonus (and reward).

I'm not entirely sure how much there was exchanged within the first 24h. I would say about 700 BTC. Because of that huge amount the rewards will be quite small for the most users.

First day investment reward is handled completely different, because it will not be included in the genesis block. We will later on distribute the LISK ourselves. (Check this blog post)

Quote from: LiskEnterprise on February 26, 2016, 08:47:25 AM

I am trying to set up an exchange paying wiht NXT

Failed to validate return address

It is a valid NXT account

SO how to correct the error to buy

Yes, we are aware of the issue. I'm very sorry for that. Olivier sent a ticket to ShapeShift, not sure when we get the answer.

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Quote from: SISAR on February 26, 2016, 08:18:05 AM

If we can not check it all stories about lawyer or whatever are irrelevant.

You could easily check it, if you want. Names, links, email addresses are all public here in this thread.

SISAR, An argument doesn't become more valuable, if you spam it frequently and use big or/and red letter!

If you have an serious issue about the escrow or the security of this ICO, you can contact me otherwise please search another thread or forum.

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I am trying to set up an exchange paying wiht NXT

Failed to validate return address

It is a valid NXT account

SO how to correct the error to buy

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Quote from: ttookk on February 26, 2016, 08:37:53 AM

Quote from: trolleroo on February 26, 2016, 08:31:12 AM

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Quote from: SISAR on February 26, 2016, 08:12:12 AM

Quote from: MalReynolds on February 26, 2016, 08:08:34 AM

Quote from: SISAR on February 26, 2016, 08:04:58 AM

What is Bitcoin ICO address?

You must go thru the dashboard at http://ico.lisk.io . Click on the "Start Your Exchange" button. There is no direct Bitcoin address for donating to Lisk.

So we are back to "trust us" model. Just type any amount you wish for BTC and particulary badly screw XCR owners. 883 BTC and 734 participants, what an epic lie.

SCAM!

You have been REPORTED

I agree with SISAR (even though, I believe he should contain himself a little) that there should be a way for any user to check important info as number of participants, and money (BTC, etc) received, without resort to "trust". It does not automaticaly mean this is a SCAN ICO, but, still, depending on trust opens doors to bad things.

Well, between all this talk about trust and such, I would like to point out, that you are trusting people that have identified themselves with their real names and pictures. Around 900BTC is a lot of money, but divided by at least two, I have no idea where they should flee, to have a nice life after going through with this, as some call it, scam.

They don't have to flee anywhere, what they will do is announce that ICO money is spent earlier than everyone think it should be spent. Development stopped, rebrand to some other coin and try again. The same way they have abandoned XCR. I was XCR ICO investor so I was following the deal from start, at the point when they were supposed to start advertising XCR as a finalized project they went LISK and dropped XCR because they burned all money from XCR ICO on some stupid shits. And now, because we owners of XCR are getting less LISK if more BTC is invested, and fictional BTC value, they are trashing people who invested in XCR ICO which subsequently resulted in LISK ICO. Fucking bastards.

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Quote from: MalReynolds on February 26, 2016, 08:35:34 AM

Could everybody that has quoted SISTAR's big red letters please edit them out of your posts? That way, when the mods delete his original posts, the big red letters will be totally gone.

ok done

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Quote from: trolleroo on February 26, 2016, 08:31:12 AM

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Quote from: SISAR on February 26, 2016, 08:12:12 AM

Quote from: MalReynolds on February 26, 2016, 08:08:34 AM

Quote from: SISAR on February 26, 2016, 08:04:58 AM

What is Bitcoin ICO address?

You must go thru the dashboard at http://ico.lisk.io . Click on the "Start Your Exchange" button. There is no direct Bitcoin address for donating to Lisk.

So we are back to "trust us" model. Just type any amount you wish for BTC and particulary badly screw XCR owners. 883 BTC and 734 participants, what an epic lie.

SCAM!

You have been REPORTED

I agree with SISAR (even though, I believe he should contain himself a little) that there should be a way for any user to check important info as number of participants, and money (BTC, etc) received, without resort to "trust". It does not automaticaly mean this is a SCAN ICO, but, still, depending on trust opens doors to bad things.

Well, between all this talk about trust and such, I would like to point out, that you are trusting people that have identified themselves with their real names and pictures. Around 900BTC is a lot of money, but divided by at least two, I have no idea where they should flee, to have a nice life after going through with this, as some call it, scam.

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Hi Max,

On the https://ico.lisk.io/users/exchanges page I see the total amount of Lisk I would receive if the ICO would end right now. But does that number include the bonus Lisk for the first day investors?

And how can I see how much Lisk I get for my first-day-investment? Or in other words, how much BTC were officially invested during the first day? Then I can calculate the bonus myself Wink

. But it would also be nice to be able to see the first-day-investment bonus separately on the https://ico.lisk.io/users/exchanges page. Just to be 'gründlich' Wink

Good luck with the ICO!

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Could everybody that has quoted SISTAR's big red letters please edit them out of your posts? That way, when the mods delete his original posts, the big red letters will be totally gone.

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Quote from: Emerge on February 26, 2016, 08:30:00 AM

Quote from: SISAR on February 26, 2016, 08:28:03 AM

You can report as much as you want, I won't be silenced because I am asking the right question. Values you are showing at LISK website are fiction unless you can provide BTC address(es).

There is no definite ICO address, it is held through Shapeshift.IO's API Wallet

SCAM!

883 BTC and 734 participants is a lie, do not invest into this shit!

today you have the record of report.Congrats!

please go on we don't understand your point of view.

so why do you think is a scam?

please explain to us if you can write something more complicated then the word SCAM.

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Quote from: trolleroo on February 26, 2016, 08:31:12 AM

I agree with SISAR (even though, I believe he should contain himself a little) that there should be a way for any user to check important info as number of participants, and money (BTC, etc) received, without resort to "trust". It does not automaticaly mean this is a SCAN ICO, but, still, depending on trust opens doors to bad things.

I am on this forum and community for almost 4 years, very accurately calling out suspicious deals. Supossedly this LISK is a major deal but it is nothing more than rebranded XCR which had almost no community and struggled at exchanges for years.

This ICO is a scam, period.

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