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thandie

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Quote from: Vaccomondus on February 26, 2016, 04:13:39 AM

what is this crap? you mean that the lisk that we will buy will be worth less right? and not that what we bought so far will be reduced for our balance?

Nope, that's simple maths.
Don't be an intellectual for this

PRO TIP: Anyone investing in a coin should research it first.

The amount of LISK shown at the ICO page is only a current estimation how many LISK you will receive.
After the ICO we will distribute a fixed 85,000,000 LISK.

nikster

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Quote from: MalReynolds on February 24, 2016, 10:58:38 AM

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My main problem is that most the BTC will be allocated towards big-fancy-lawyer and big-fancy-developer standards of living. These guys probably burn 50k euro per year per person on their personal expenses. They burnt through 750 BTC from crypti too fast, now they still have to pay their expenses, so they make up a new project and ask for more money.

Holy cow, Trader Joe. They brought YOU into the Hidden Underground Lisk Command Bunker where you learned all these top-secret facts and plans, but they didn't invite ME !?! Sheesh.

If we MUST indulge in fun, stupid gossip about a cryptocoin, let's talk about Ethereum and the mess they made of their ICO. Those guys raised $18M and promptly lost $10M of it in Bitcoin price speculation / depreciation. (Hint to Max - please don't let this happen to Lisk!) After losing over half the funds they raised, the Ethereum Foundation only spent $4M of it in their first 14 months.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/2zoawi/ethereum_foundation_out_of_money_xpost_rbitcoin/cpkxg3y

They've undergone some major firings / reorganizations since then to get their dev effort running smoothly. Even so, their own internal leaked memos say that a functional Ethereum system is still years away.

http://cointelegraph.com/news/ethereum-launches-but-leaked-chat-says-project-needs-years-more

Vitalik himself acknowledged the Ethereum Foundation treasury at the start of 2016 has only $150,000 fiat, 640 BTC, and 2.5M ETH.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/3wmctp/i_read_that_it_has_been_published_how_much/cxxei81

At current prices, that's ONLY $150K + $272K (from BTC) = $422,000 in liquid cash plus $15M OF THEIR OWN CURRENCY, WHICH MAY BE IN A BUBBLE THAT COULD POP.

And get this - Ethereum's initial burn rate ($4M in 14 months) was over $250K per month. If they started 2016 with only $422K, ETHEREUM COULD POSSIBLY HAVE ZERO CASH ON HAND TODAY.

So let me get to my main point.

Ethereum is NOT a big bad invincible monster against whom Lisk does not stand a chance.

In many ways - lean organization, and existing code base, and technology concept, and maybe even cash-on-hand, to name just a few - Lisk has Ethereum beat hands down.

+1m

Emerge

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Quote from: rezilient on February 26, 2016, 05:13:01 AM

Quote from: CryptoMaik on February 26, 2016, 04:17:32 AM

I advice to stop buying right now. Buy in the first 24 hour after launch. Grin

You'll never know, what will happen next if you buy in late.

He wants people to buy the coins he'll dump. Don't worry I will buy many dumped LISK as I'll be needing lots of LISK for development.

Work work am I right haha.

rezilient

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Quote from: CryptoMaik on February 26, 2016, 04:17:32 AM

I advice to stop buying right now. Buy in the first 24 hour after launch. Grin

You'll never know, what will happen next if you buy in late.

Jack Liver

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Quote from: Foros on February 26, 2016, 03:46:20 AM

Hi guys! I send my crypti to https://ico.lisk.io. After confirmation I saw 99714.0 my XCR to about 95000 LISK.
Now it is changed to 92326:

I have 2 questions. Is operation finished? Maybe I should do smth else to finish it?
And if it is finished why exchange rate is changing?

read this from first page

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Q2MJ25_bK5Yi60FYohYCUEkujUtL5c0P1dOdlDMPMBI/edit#gid=1360974801

ttookk

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Quote from: ifightformerkel on February 26, 2016, 04:55:43 AM

How much BTC are invested now in total? Is this trackable?

Because iam also interested to invest, but it would be nice to knew, thx.

It's on their website:

https://lisk.io/

keep in mind that the XCR exchanged are exchanged at a fixed rate of 1300 sat each, so for your purposes, you should multiply the XCR by 0.000013 and add the result(around 328btc atm) to the BTC.

ifightformerkel

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How much BTC are invested now in total? Is this trackable?

Because iam also interested to invest, but it would be nice to knew, thx.

panjul07

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Just read the Indonesian translation, but it is translated not in a good way (Just like a google translate with little improvement). You need to ask the translator to make it more Indonesian, and there are still many part that is still in English version as I read in this thread.

LiskHQ

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Decentralized Application Platform

Quote from: Vaccomondus on February 26, 2016, 04:13:39 AM

Quote from: souljah1h on February 26, 2016, 04:01:53 AM

Quote from: Foros on February 26, 2016, 03:46:20 AM

Hi guys! I send my crypti to https://ico.lisk.io. After confirmation I saw 99714.0 my XCR to about 95000 LISK.
Now it is changed to 92326:

I have 2 questions. Is operation finished? Maybe I should do smth else to finish it?
And if it is finished why exchange rate is changing?

Read this topic and you will find the answer. Small hint: The more people buy, the less you get. Your 95000 LISK could be 65000 LISK at end of the ICO

what is this crap? you mean that the lisk that we will buy will be worth less right? and not that what we bought so far will be reduced for our balance?

It won't be worth less. The value of 1 LISK goes up, the total of your LISK goes down. Ends up in the same value you sent to us.

https://lisk.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/207066689-Why-is-the-number-of-LISK-on-the-ICO-page-going-down-

CryptoMaik

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Blockchain entrepreneur✔

I advice to stop buying right now. Buy in the first 24 hour after launch. Grin

Vaccomondus

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Quote from: souljah1h on February 26, 2016, 04:01:53 AM

Quote from: Foros on February 26, 2016, 03:46:20 AM

Hi guys! I send my crypti to https://ico.lisk.io. After confirmation I saw 99714.0 my XCR to about 95000 LISK.
Now it is changed to 92326:

I have 2 questions. Is operation finished? Maybe I should do smth else to finish it?
And if it is finished why exchange rate is changing?

Read this topic and you will find the answer. Small hint: The more people buy, the less you get. Your 95000 LISK could be 65000 LISK at end of the ICO

what is this crap? you mean that the lisk that we will buy will be worth less right? and not that what we bought so far will be reduced for our balance?

Foros

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Oh, thank you, I see.

Quote from: souljah1h on February 26, 2016, 04:01:53 AM

Quote from: Foros on February 26, 2016, 03:46:20 AM

Hi guys! I send my crypti to https://ico.lisk.io. After confirmation I saw 99714.0 my XCR to about 95000 LISK.
Now it is changed to 92326:

I have 2 questions. Is operation finished? Maybe I should do smth else to finish it?
And if it is finished why exchange rate is changing?

Read this topic and you will find the answer. Small hint: The more people buy, the less you get. Your 95000 LISK could be 65000 LISK at end of the ICO

Emerge

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Quote from: iudica on February 26, 2016, 03:09:25 AM

Quote from: Vaccomondus on February 26, 2016, 02:41:13 AM

hey man i'm not saying that that guy is suspicious, but how the hell i can be sure that you're that guy, you know that anyaone can come here and tell us he is obama right?

That why I am here, to clear such stuff.

Contact me on linkedin or on my website, like others already did.

(search in google "Axel Hellinger Rechtsanwalt Bonn" or go to http://hellinger.eu or email to info'at'hellinger.eu)

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Axel is refered to as a "german lawyer" never just a lawyer.

@Vega

It is not a quality issue. But for me, if I tell people, I am a lawyer, they think immediately, I am a lawyer from US, UK or their state. Just to make it clear.

Alex, don't mind him, some people's jobs are about spreading lies about established or developing startups. It's a marketing thing

souljah1h

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Hyperspace snail

Quote from: Foros on February 26, 2016, 03:46:20 AM

Hi guys! I send my crypti to https://ico.lisk.io. After confirmation I saw 99714.0 my XCR to about 95000 LISK.
Now it is changed to 92326:

I have 2 questions. Is operation finished? Maybe I should do smth else to finish it?
And if it is finished why exchange rate is changing?

Read this topic and you will find the answer. Small hint: The more people buy, the less you get. Your 95000 LISK could be 65000 LISK at end of the ICO

devlin

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After ICO ends all BTC is available to devs. at their discretion? Or is a roadmap to spend ICO value?

Foros

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Hi guys! I send my crypti to https://ico.lisk.io. After confirmation I saw 99714.0 my XCR to about 95000 LISK.
Now it is changed to 92326:
http://f3.s.qip.ru/o8tiW7Dd.png

I have 2 questions. Is operation finished? Maybe I should do smth else to finish it?
And if it is finished why exchange rate is changing?

PapillonV

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Signature added. Thanks!

seok436

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Signature added.

Lisk will be Awesome.

iudica

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online justice

Quote from: Vaccomondus on February 26, 2016, 02:41:13 AM

hey man i'm not saying that that guy is suspicious, but how the hell i can be sure that you're that guy, you know that anyaone can come here and tell us he is obama right?

That why I am here, to clear such stuff.

Contact me on linkedin or on my website, like others already did.

(search in google "Axel Hellinger Rechtsanwalt Bonn" or go to http://hellinger.eu or email to info'at'hellinger.eu)

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Axel is refered to as a "german lawyer" never just a lawyer.

@Vega

It is not a quality issue. But for me, if I tell people, I am a lawyer, they think immediately, I am a lawyer from US, UK or their state. Just to make it clear.

Vega

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Quote from: Vaccomondus on February 26, 2016, 02:41:13 AM

hey man i'm not saying that that guy is suspicious, but how the hell i can be sure that you're that guy, you know that anyaone can come here and tell us he is obama right?

How about we use some logic?
1. We know who LiskHQ is. People met Max Kordek before on conferences, meetups, etc.
2. Max says Iudica is Axel Hellinger, a lawyer.
3. If that is true, he is trustworthy (You could dispute that a lawyer would risk his carrier on this, but it would be pointless, and would end my discussion with you.)
4. The claim that Axel Hellinger is who he says he is and really involved with Lisk escrow can be checked by anyone who is not just a keyboard warrior, it's a few phone calls. This means even if Max would want to cheat anyone this would be way too much risk to try to lie about. There are much better ways.

If you seriously feel this is not safe, then you should get back your 0.1 BTC investment and run.

I have one question however. Every time (seriously, every single time) Axel is refered to as a "german lawyer" never just a lawyer. I find it amusing, like the german part is some kind of qualifier.

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