Topic: [ANN][LSK] Lisk | Blockchain Application Platform for JavaScript Developers - page 2258. (Read 3074169 times)

Fitting comparison, Mal.  Robespierre was one of the main instigators of the French Revolution, he was eventually  betrayed by his co-revolutionaries, and lost his head to the guillotine. 

Hi, everyone!

I'm the initial Crypti investor that kick-started the whole project financially back at 2014. I understand those who is negative for the situation.
Well yes, Max could warn us about his plans, he is not obliged to do it. The system open source and platform developed exactly for people to use at their own, to build new projects, platforms and etc. Everyone from community, holders and founders have this right. If not Max, sooner or later it could be someone from you. But honestly I'm very happy that Max did it first. He have great experience, he is a real hard-working man, very delegated to job. I know him personally, met him in Germany, he is a very bright and smart guy. I'm sure he will spread Lisk to whole blockcain world by pushing more on pr and marketing.
I hope ICO funds be enough and let do a really great job to bring the platform to the world. We in Crypti pushed on development and did a great job having a great platform as a result. Unfortunately no money left for marketing and further development. And for me personally Lisk is the same project with the same idea we wanted bring to the world. For me nothing changed. Same platform which can become more powerful with the new ICO.
Especially I'm more calm and confident in success knowing that Max is the one who will continue our great job. That's why I and our team including Boris support Max and wish him success. Also no need represent Oliver, everyone of you seen his work. Guys, wish you Good Luck! I appreciate that you still believe in idea we wanted bring to the world.

I suggest everyone to treat this as second funding round what is are very common in start-ups.

Oliver,

You are being used and played for a fool by Max.  A man that would betray a trust once, will more easily betray again.

Remember the maxim:  Too soon old, too late smart.

I like you have worked for Crypti for the past few months without any compensation.  You were a hard worker.  I dont like to see you get hurt.  Think this through....  you have no recourse if Max takes the money and disappears.

You will know that in a few months

good question!!

William, over the past 6-8 months your contribution to the foundation was very little, probably due to work commitments, etc.

So given your recent outbursts I'm quite surprised to see you now giving us your time.

Therefore, I would just like to make it clear to everyone, as we have the right to defend ourselves. Your recent portrayal of Max and myself is utterly wrong.

Our intentions are only good, and in no shape or form in the realm to which you speak of.

Thank you.

  touche'

So when Lisk runs out of funds what will it be forked to?

Will the block time of 10 seconds remain?

Hi Max, I'm cryptiNeo delegate from Crypti..

I've just updated my Signature, just followed LiskHQ on Twitter..
Liked on facebook and subscribed to the newsletter..

Godspeed!!

Any way you can get Boris from Crypti on board?

I think you need to change the UI client in more ways to distiguish yourself from Crypti.

There are many people who are angry about this, about being stabbed in the back. If you are a longtime supporter of crypti how can you not be mad about this?

Oh really?! Currently this applies to you. Only to you. 

Scammers leave clues.  Dilligent researchers can discover those clues and reveal the scam.

The most common clue is a name or location that is fictional, vulgar, or ridiculous.  

Have you done your research?

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/lisk

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Lisk

It's not representative of the Crypti Community.

Only one angry guy.

See, now this just comes across as FUD/Trolling.

Valid criticisms of any coin should be welcomed. Comments like that one just become noise, and results in people discounting anything you say... including valid opinions.

Of course with the way the ICO is structured, I expect to see some FUD regardless, partially from angry XCR people, partially from those who want to see XCR people dump ... so they can pick up cheap coins to convert. But no reason to go the trolling route if you have real comments to make.

None of the founders feel this way.

I hope Max and Olivier do have this much to convert so they have a substantial stake in this project as an incentive to see it through. Compared to traditional startups, the terms being offered to investors are very generous in what amounts to a second seed round. A typical startup in an incubator usually gives 4-7% equity for initial seed funding of $50,000, 3 months of workspace at the incubator, coaching, and exposure to the incubator's investment network. That is 1% equity per $10,000 and $600 worth of rent. A typical second funding round is comparable to Peter Thiel investing $500,000 in Facebook for somewhere around 10% equity. That is $50,000 for 1%. Founders typically try to retain 51% of the company to retain control. Max and Olivier are only keeping 8% of the distribution from the ICO. Even if they end up with 15% after a second round raising 800 BTC by adding their XCR conversion to the 8% reserved from the ICO distribution, this is still way below industry average for tech startups.

That's in poor taste. Litoshi spent a lot of time helping and talking about XCR to others - he was a HUGE supporter.
Anyway, I'm done wasting energy on this issue. I will take my share in XCR and convert to LISK and won't think about this project again until the team can show itself capable of transitioning into this new reality. It's just hard to hide my disappointment.

How many BTC does it take to buy a 3 year old BMW or MBZ?  

Max needs to know this for his ICO goal setting.